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(Slate)   Russia has its very own Meteor Truthers, who claim their country was hit by a secret US missile in an effort to spark a new Cold War   (slate.com ) divider line 113
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2013-02-16 12:12:50 PM  
Dear Russians,

Why the hell would we want another Cold War?

Furthermore, how could there be a Cold War when we now  know that your country is essentially the Detroit of Eurasia? Yeah, you have stockpiles of ancient weapons, but we're not exactly concerned over here. The only reason you're a threat these days is because you're probably somewhat fearless because you realize that if we tossed a nuke your way, we couldn't possibly mess up your country any more than it already is.

I say this with love for the Russian people: Be serious. We're trying to be friends. Don't f♥ck it up by pretending that you have anything worth bombing anymore. We like you, but we're just not that into you.

Sincerely,
The United States of America
 
2013-02-16 12:33:18 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Mad_Radhu: tinfoil-hat maggie: Hmm, now I'm curious if our subs have authorization to attack on launch, it would seem a war warning or several levels of protocol would be necessary.

My understanding is that the USN attack subs basically shadow the Russian boomers so that they can take out that leg of the Russian triad as quickly as possible in the event of a First Strike. I'd imagine it is a Dead Hand type of situation where detected launch sets in motion certain protocols, because in that type of situation you don't want to want for authorization because it give them time to launch more of their missiles. Maybe thing have changed since the 80s, but I'd imagine that in the bad old days of the Cold War, a single launch would have caused a domino effect of both sides shooting at each other.

Oh, I've read about the games of our subs shadowing their boomers and well, think if they just wanted to do a test flight on a dude missile and we blow up their sub. It's a hard call. Now granted if the thing was parked a few hundred miles off the east coast ,well.


A flight test would probably be happening in a closed area of water, and there would likely be escort ships that no only closed off the area, but also monitored the missile's flight, so any of our subs in the area would likely know what was happening even if the test was totally secret. To me, it just seems like a ballistic missile launched out of the blue toward San Fran would throw up some massive red flags and start First Strike retaliation protocols. If someone was in the loop quickly enough that knew what was really happening, they might be able to defuse the situation, but it seems like things would get out of hand well before the the nuke actually blew up SF.
 
2013-02-16 12:53:59 PM  

Teknowaffle: Jarhead_h: Practical side of things

 - this would have been a great opertunity for Russia to test an anti-ballistic missile system.   There are rumors that they did.


They didn't. There wouldn't have been enough time to even react to press the button to launch the rocket before it was out of range, and besides, it was moving too fast. Besides, a puny missile isn't going to do shiat to it. Now that there is data on mass and speed, when I get home I am going to see what would cause a bigger change in trajectory, a plane launched air to air missile hitting the meteor 90 degrees, or a plane getting hit by a pigeon.


actually there is no question. A sidewinder hit would probably shift the trajectory about a helium nucleus' diameter. (my calculator couldn't handle it). That piece of rock had 1.1 peta-Joules of kinetic energy when it hit the atmosphere based on the data provided.
 
2013-02-16 01:26:09 PM  
STFU, QA.

STFU and GTFO.

And EABOD while you're at it.
 
2013-02-16 01:30:40 PM  

Mad_Radhu: tinfoil-hat maggie: Mad_Radhu: tinfoil-hat maggie: Hmm, now I'm curious if our subs have authorization to attack on launch, it would seem a war warning or several levels of protocol would be necessary.

My understanding is that the USN attack subs basically shadow the Russian boomers so that they can take out that leg of the Russian triad as quickly as possible in the event of a First Strike. I'd imagine it is a Dead Hand type of situation where detected launch sets in motion certain protocols, because in that type of situation you don't want to want for authorization because it give them time to launch more of their missiles. Maybe thing have changed since the 80s, but I'd imagine that in the bad old days of the Cold War, a single launch would have caused a domino effect of both sides shooting at each other.

Oh, I've read about the games of our subs shadowing their boomers and well, think if they just wanted to do a test flight on a dude missile and we blow up their sub. It's a hard call. Now granted if the thing was parked a few hundred miles off the east coast ,well.

A flight test would probably be happening in a closed area of water, and there would likely be escort ships that no only closed off the area, but also monitored the missile's flight, so any of our subs in the area would likely know what was happening even if the test was totally secret. To me, it just seems like a ballistic missile launched out of the blue toward San Fran would throw up some massive red flags and start First Strike retaliation protocols. If someone was in the loop quickly enough that knew what was really happening, they might be able to defuse the situation, but it seems like things would get out of hand well before the the nuke actually blew up SF.


Good point, it would be interesting to find out what the exact orders for those subs who's mission is to trail boomers are.

/I also wonder is Russian radar was able to pick up the meteor as it came in.
 
2013-02-16 02:04:59 PM  

Parmenius: megarian: The Snow Dog: It was North Korea. They're paid under the table by the US military indus trial complex to keep the knees a'jerkin' ; the herp a'derpin'. This keeps the cash flowing to those foul factor ies of evil. We don't need  Death MachineF-∞, but they want you to think we do.F*cktards.

Did...did we just see a stroke via words? Are you okay?

If he was having a stroke he'd just say 'aaaaargh'.  He wouldn't bother  carving typing it.


Oh, come on.
 
2013-02-16 02:09:12 PM  

mllawso: Quantum Apostrophe: if you had the energy to move that mass in the first place, might as well just use that energy directly instead of some convoluted Rube Goldberg sci-fi fantasy.

*All* weapons are inefficient: energy has to be converted and stored -- and that entails losses. The idea with weapons is to convert a slow expenditure of energy into PE can be released instantaneously on demand.

Look at catapults: the energy investment in creating/moving the projectiles and "cocking" the catapult is far more than what's delivered when it's fired. However, they were used for a very long time because they were devastating and worked.


reluctantgourmet.com
 
2013-02-16 04:16:01 PM  
They can get all Cold War nostalgic now. But next week....


cache.gawkerassets.com

They need Johnny Rico.
 
2013-02-16 07:26:13 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: [knife]


So your body can convert food into ATP faster than the average knife attack?
 
2013-02-16 10:41:52 PM  
Hey, geniuskis. Missiles being used is a hot war.  Cold war is not using the missiles.
 
2013-02-18 08:51:52 AM  
Sure, laugh it up. Because you are all so much better informed. "I know the truth. I saw it on the tv news"
 
2013-02-18 02:49:33 PM  

alcoda: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointel_Pro


Mark Ratner: Ummm..9/11 wasn't an inside job, but they did sell crack to black people back in the 80s to fund the contras against the sandinistas in Nicaragua.


spentshells: Where did this guy get south american international drug lord connections?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Freeway%22_Rick_Ross

Please answer when you are able.


Reeled 'em in.

/You must admit, that was a pretty good subtle troll. Even had the one bad apostrophe to tie it together.
 
2013-02-18 03:03:25 PM  

Mad_Radhu: A flight test would probably be happening in a closed area of water, and there would likely be escort ships that no only closed off the area, but also monitored the missile's flight, so any of our subs in the area would likely know what was happening even if the test was totally secret. To me, it just seems like a ballistic missile launched out of the blue toward San Fran would throw up some massive red flags and start First Strike retaliation protocols. If someone was in the loop quickly enough that knew what was really happening, they might be able to defuse the situation, but it seems like things would get out of hand well before the the nuke actually blew up SF.


I wonder what would happen if the "test flight" was aimed somewhere we don't have a NATO or mutual aid treaty with, like Tehran or Islamabad. Monitor and hope it's a dud? I assume our satellites and subs would be able to calculate the trajectory in seconds.
 
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