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(Slate)   Russia has its very own Meteor Truthers, who claim their country was hit by a secret US missile in an effort to spark a new Cold War   (slate.com) divider line 113
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2013-02-16 12:00:44 AM  
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2013-02-16 12:37:11 AM  
To be fair we are just about finished with that Iraq/Afghanistan BS. So it's about that time again....
 
2013-02-16 12:41:33 AM  
Wouldn't that be more likely to spark a new hot one?
 
2013-02-16 12:42:54 AM  
The thing about kinetic kill vehicles aimed at earth is that, to cause any sort of damage, it's going to be massive enough that there's no "abort", long after you've aimed it, and are waiting for it. I don't see the appeal of that for the military.
 
2013-02-16 12:42:57 AM  
If it was near the US, besides aiming our nukes at Pakistan, we'd have Fox and Glenn Beck and Rush and Rosie and Sarah Palin entertaining us with all kinds of theories.

"You just know that this is just a plan by Obama to take away our rocks."
 
2013-02-16 12:43:07 AM  
I bet above top secret has lots of crazy crap on there by now about this.
 
2013-02-16 12:43:50 AM  
Never mind the time the Soviet Union deliberately nuked itself to see how bad EMP is.  http://ed-thelen.org/EMP-ElectroMagneticPulse.html
 
2013-02-16 12:44:26 AM  
So the Russians are on to us huh? The part they got wrong is we weren't testing missiles, we're testing a orbital slingshot to hurl space rocks at our enemies.
 
2013-02-16 12:44:33 AM  
What was the orbital rails idea the USA never tried called? To the conspiracy junkies that is plausible too.
 
2013-02-16 12:49:14 AM  

LookForTheArrow: The thing about kinetic kill vehicles aimed at earth is that


if you had the energy to move that mass in the first place, might as well just use that energy directly instead of some convoluted Rube Goldberg sci-fi fantasy.
 
2013-02-16 12:50:18 AM  
They should catscan that guy right away to see if there is a way to detect crazy medically.

You can't fix stupid, but there might be a treatment for this.

Hey crazy Russian dude!
Weapons are 'tested' at White Sands and such.
Breaking windows in Frezmybalzov doesn't help the capitalist conspiracy.
 
2013-02-16 12:50:53 AM  
It was North Korea. They're paid under the table by the US military indus trial complex to keep the knees a'jerkin' ; the herp a'derpin'. This keeps the cash flowing to those foul factor ies of evil. We don't need  Death MachineF-∞, but they want you to think we do.F*cktards.
 
2013-02-16 12:52:35 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: LookForTheArrow: The thing about kinetic kill vehicles aimed at earth is that

if you had the energy to move that mass in the first place, might as well just use that energy directly instead of some convoluted Rube Goldberg sci-fi fantasy.


i was imagining ion drives strapped to iron rich rocks picked out before hand for their orbit, etc.. might take weeks to line something like that up, but it'd be very cheap and nearly the same as space mining.

i'm just reminded of a bit of trivia about cars: the brakes must dissipate at least 8 times the energy the engine puts out to be "safe"... and that translates into poor reaction time if you suspected someone of doing that on the "cheap" out there.

oh,  Rube Goldberg sci-fi fantasy. check.
 
2013-02-16 12:52:37 AM  

davidphogan: What was the orbital rails idea the USA never tried called? To the conspiracy junkies that is plausible too.


What I think you may be refering to had the pithy name for it was "Rods from God."
 
2013-02-16 12:52:44 AM  
I already saw this movie last year, when it was called "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol". That version was slightly more believable, but both still suck.
 
2013-02-16 12:52:53 AM  
Aww. We're all more alike than we know.
 
2013-02-16 12:54:14 AM  
It is nothing less than the hand of God. He is trying to reach out to these Godless commies. If they choose not to accept His divine love, He will surely destroy them.
 
2013-02-16 12:56:16 AM  

The Snow Dog: It was North Korea. They're paid under the table by the US military indus trial complex to keep the knees a'jerkin' ; the herp a'derpin'. This keeps the cash flowing to those foul factor ies of evil. We don't need  Death MachineF-∞, but they want you to think we do.F*cktards.


Pills   get a doctor
 
2013-02-16 12:57:24 AM  
They've just been reading "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", again.
 
2013-02-16 12:57:25 AM  
Wouldn't we be dropping rocks on North Korea instead of Siberia?
 
2013-02-16 12:57:31 AM  
To give proper credit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

The idea was Jerry Pournelle's.
 
2013-02-16 12:58:47 AM  
We have people that think 9/11 was an inside job and the CIA sold crack to black people to make the ghetto's worse.

Why should the Russian's be any different? Every country has crazy conspiracy theory people.
 
2013-02-16 12:59:37 AM  
The part about the whole meteor story that most cracks me up is the fact that the we got so much good footage because the cops are so corrupt in Russia that everyone drives around with a dashcam running all the time. They've turned into a bunch of Little Brothers constantly watching the state.
 
2013-02-16 01:00:08 AM  
Sorry...
Of course I meant PETscan.
 
2013-02-16 01:00:09 AM  

Tickle Mittens: davidphogan: What was the orbital rails idea the USA never tried called? To the conspiracy junkies that is plausible too.

What I think you may be refering to had the pithy name for it was "Rods from God."


Yes. Can i call them the Rods And Todds of Flanders?
 
2013-02-16 01:01:10 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: LookForTheArrow: The thing about kinetic kill vehicles aimed at earth is that

if you had the energy to move that mass in the first place, might as well just use that energy directly instead of some convoluted Rube Goldberg sci-fi fantasy.


3D printers or space elevators. Duh.
 
2013-02-16 01:01:19 AM  

onyxruby: We have people that think 9/11 was an inside job and the CIA sold crack to black people to make the ghetto's worse.

Why should the Russian's be any different? Every country has crazy conspiracy theory people.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointel_Pro
 
2013-02-16 01:01:51 AM  
ZOMG! You can see the thermite!
 
2013-02-16 01:05:14 AM  

The Snow Dog: It was North Korea. They're paid under the table by the US military indus trial complex to keep the knees a'jerkin' ; the herp a'derpin'. This keeps the cash flowing to those foul factor ies of evil. We don't need  Death MachineF-∞, but they want you to think we do.F*cktards.


Did...did we just see a stroke via words? Are you okay?
 
2013-02-16 01:05:19 AM  
Truthers? You mean that they ignore media conspiracy theories and stick to verifiable evidence?
 
2013-02-16 01:05:56 AM  

onyxruby: We have people that think 9/11 was an inside job and the CIA sold crack to black people to make the ghetto's worse.

Why should the Russian's be any different? Every country has crazy conspiracy theory people.


Ummm..9/11 wasn't an inside job, but they did sell crack to black people back in the 80s to fund the contras against the sandinistas in Nicaragua.
 
2013-02-16 01:08:22 AM  
Not that I'm paranoid, stricken with insomnia or that I listen to Coast to Coast, but George Noory is saying meteors were just seen over San Franfreako, and I just heard the emergency alert test on my radio in Virginia.
 
2013-02-16 01:08:31 AM  
Dumbasses there vote for Putin, dumbasses here vote for Obama.  It's the world wide dumbassocracy.
 
2013-02-16 01:09:09 AM  
We're probably lucky this meteor didn't break up over Iran or North Korea.
 
2013-02-16 01:11:03 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: LookForTheArrow: The thing about kinetic kill vehicles aimed at earth is that

if you had the energy to move that mass in the first place, might as well just use that energy directly instead of some convoluted Rube Goldberg sci-fi fantasy.


the Thor system really doesn't need that much energy, a small push and gravity does the rest
 
2013-02-16 01:12:38 AM  

alcoda: onyxruby: We have people that think 9/11 was an inside job and the CIA sold crack to black people to make the ghetto's worse.

Why should the Russian's be any different? Every country has crazy conspiracy theory people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointel_Pro


Word.
www.joyofsects.com
 
2013-02-16 01:14:02 AM  

megarian: The Snow Dog: It was North Korea. They're paid under the table by the US military indus trial complex to keep the knees a'jerkin' ; the herp a'derpin'. This keeps the cash flowing to those foul factor ies of evil. We don't need  Death MachineF-∞, but they want you to think we do.F*cktards.

Did...did we just see a stroke via words? Are you okay?


If he was having a stroke he'd just say 'aaaaargh'.  He wouldn't bother  carving typing it.
 
2013-02-16 01:15:35 AM  
What incentive would America even have to do that?

Have Russians looked at their country lately? We're more scared of Venezuela for Christ's sake.
 
2013-02-16 01:15:51 AM  
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2013-02-16 01:16:20 AM  

Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: I already saw this movie last year, when it was called "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol". That version was slightly more believable, but both still suck.


I'm a big Brad Bird fan, but that movie lost me in the last act. I can kind of suspend disbelief enough to accept a magical Spider-Man glove, but I had to call bullshiat when it came to the missile launch. As soon as that Russian bird launched, the Russian sub would have been immediately torpedoed by the Los Angeles or Seawolf sub that was shadowing it, which would have basically started a US/Russia shooting war, which probably would have quickly escalated into a full nuclear exchange as each side would have thought that the other side was making a first strike. The lone warhead that they disarmed at the last minute before it hit San Francisco wouldn't matter at all because by the time it arrived, a full nuclear war would already have been in progress. There's just no way that you can defuse that situation like they showed in the movie.
 
2013-02-16 01:16:26 AM  

Stinkyy: Not that I'm paranoid, stricken with insomnia or that I listen to Coast to Coast, but George Noory is saying meteors were just seen over San Franfreako, and I just heard the emergency alert test on my radio in Virginia.


They said "the fireball over the Bay Area was not related to asteroids". Soooo rogue fireball? That's comforting. Thanks, news.
 
2013-02-16 01:20:51 AM  

Mad_Radhu: They've turned into a bunch of Little Brothers constantly watching the state.


Liberty, thy name is dash-cam.
 
2013-02-16 01:23:31 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: I already saw this movie last year, when it was called "Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol". That version was slightly more believable, but both still suck.

I'm a big Brad Bird fan, but that movie lost me in the last act. I can kind of suspend disbelief enough to accept a magical Spider-Man glove, but I had to call bullshiat when it came to the missile launch. As soon as that Russian bird launched, the Russian sub would have been immediately torpedoed by the Los Angeles or Seawolf sub that was shadowing it, which would have basically started a US/Russia shooting war, which probably would have quickly escalated into a full nuclear exchange as each side would have thought that the other side was making a first strike. The lone warhead that they disarmed at the last minute before it hit San Francisco wouldn't matter at all because by the time it arrived, a full nuclear war would already have been in progress. There's just no way that you can defuse that situation like they showed in the movie.


Hmm, now I'm curious if our subs have authorization to attack on launch, it would seem a war warning or several levels of protocol would be necessary.
 
2013-02-16 01:24:08 AM  
www.broodingdetective.com

Cold wars do not work that way!
 
2013-02-16 01:24:32 AM  

megarian: Stinkyy: Not that I'm paranoid, stricken with insomnia or that I listen to Coast to Coast, but George Noory is saying meteors were just seen over San Franfreako, and I just heard the emergency alert test on my radio in Virginia.

They said "the fireball over the Bay Area was not related to asteroids". Soooo rogue fireball? That's comforting. Thanks, news.


Wait you're saying there was one?
/Oh boy : /
 
2013-02-16 01:24:58 AM  

netringer: If it was near the US, besides aiming our nukes at Pakistan, we'd have Fox and Glenn Beck and Rush and Rosie and Sarah Palin entertaining us with all kinds of theories.

"You just know that this is just a plan by Obama to take away our rocks."


Every thread about how things are farked up in another country, there has to be some pedantic asshole who points out America isn't perfect either. Yeah, we get it, asshole, but we're not talking about America now. If you want to shiat on America, there are plenty of threads where America is actually the subject. We're talking about Russia right now, dickhead.

It's like, what if I started a thread about whatever bugs are plaguing OS X Mountain Lion, and then some asswipe barged in and was like, "Yeah, yeah, but Windows 8 sucks donkey balls, so it's all relative!" I'd be like, "STFU, asswipe! We'll talk about Windows 8 some other time! Either stay on topic or GTFO!"
 
2013-02-16 01:25:42 AM  
It's true, they figured it out because the meteor came from Kenya.
 
2013-02-16 01:25:53 AM  

Stinkyy: Not that I'm paranoid, stricken with insomnia or that I listen to Coast to Coast, but George Noory is saying meteors were just seen over San Franfreako


Link.
 
2013-02-16 01:27:55 AM  
Obamaski now born in Minsk?
 
2013-02-16 01:31:27 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Stinkyy: Not that I'm paranoid, stricken with insomnia or that I listen to Coast to Coast, but George Noory is saying meteors were just seen over San Franfreako

Link.


Oh thanks, so from the video nothing much that I can't see on any night if I sit outside and watch the sky.
 
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