"If those test results come in in anything greater than zero, we are not going to put that officer on the street," said Paul Volpe, the Elmwood Park Village Manager. "We have a zero tolerance policy."

You know...except for the contract that explicitly states otherwise.

"People who are more used to drinking will have less impairment," said Dr. David Zich of Northwestern Memorial Hospital.

He better be careful. MADD will rape him to death if he keeps substituting reality for the propaganda they've introduced countrywide.

Sid_6.7: MADD will rape him to death if he keeps substituting reality for the propaganda they've introduced countrywide.

Agreed. Punishment should be stricter instead of making it easier to arrest people who drink responsibly and drive. A .08 is what, two drinks for most people?

antidisestablishmentarianism: Sid_6.7: MADD will rape him to death if he keeps substituting reality for the propaganda they've introduced countrywide.

Agreed. Punishment should be stricter instead of making it easier to arrest people who drink responsibly and drive. A .08 is what, two drinks for most people?

I believe that there should be graduated penalties. Blackout-drunk and tipsy are treated as the same offense most places.

I avoid driving after drinking, and no one should drive while intoxicated, but the laws are still crap.

Sid_6.7: "If those test results come in in anything greater than zero, we are not going to put that officer on the street," said Paul Volpe, the Elmwood Park Village Manager. "We have a zero tolerance policy."

You know...except for the contract that explicitly states otherwise

No, the contract says that these cops can not be disciplined for having a BAC less than .05. It does not say that officers with a BAC of less than .05 but higher than .00 will be allowed on the street.

And they are the ones who get to carry guns. That's wonderful, Chicago. You grasp at Floriduh levels of stupidity every time I read anything about you.

drjekel_mrhyde: You people will never believe this, but cops took two ex-large pizzas and two farking 4 PACKS TALL CANS OF OE, and told us to kick rocks.
/Funny thing is they went under the bridge(old Central bridge by Hanson stadium) by my house and ate and drank the shiat

Don't even start. Almost thirty years ago: me, some of my friends, and some people who weren't my friends were all off campus in a field indulging in our various substances. All of a sudden most of the people (kids) there took off running. It was then that I noticed that there were a couple of LEOs standing among us. One looked at me and a couple of friends that hadn't run off. He said something like, "if you drop your stuff (he didn't use the word 'stuff') on the ground the we can't get you for possession." Well, we dropped everything we had in our hands. He then picked up the couple of bags of MJ that we had dropped. He said something like, "don't let me catch you again." and walked off with our grass.

A couple of years later I was riding in a friend's van on my way to work. We pulled up to a stop light. When I looked over to my right I saw a police car. While I was watching, the passenger looked around and picked up a cop hat from the middle of the front seat. Underneath was a bong. He took a hit and passed it to the driver. The driver got a small hit before the light changed. He handed it back to the passenger, who put the bong back in the middle and covered it up with the cop hat.

only allows discipline against officers when they hit an alcohol level of .05.


I think .05 is the required minimum to be a teacher, Irish Catholic priest, or Alaskan puddle jumper.

Drunk Illinois Nazis. I hate drunk Illinois Nazis.

I was sitting with a friend in his car, waiting for a department store to open one morning.   We thought they opened at 7:00, but they opened at 8:00, so we decided to sit and wait.    We were just over the Georgia state line (from Florida).   A cop cruiser does a slow circle around us and pulls up alongside us, driver-to-driver.   The cop asks us where we're from and what we're doing.   He asks us if we like guns.   Not if we have guns...just if we like guns.  He asks if we want to see his gun.   Then pulls another gun out of a shoebox on the front seat.   Then hands the gun to my friend.   By then, we realized he was 3 sheets to the wind, drunk off his ass.   And friendly as hell.   After about 10 minutes of gun talk, we handed his guns back and he went on his happy way.

.05 is not drunk.

kim jong-un: Devolving_Spud: I was sitting with a friend in his car, waiting for a department store to open one morning.   We thought they opened at 7:00, but they opened at 8:00, so we decided to sit and wait.    We were just over the Georgia state line (from Florida).   A cop cruiser does a slow circle around us and pulls up alongside us, driver-to-driver.   The cop asks us where we're from and what we're doing.   He asks us if we like guns.   Not if we have guns...just if we like guns.  He asks if we want to see his gun.   Then pulls another gun out of a shoebox on the front seat.   Then hands the gun to my friend.   By then, we realized he was 3 sheets to the wind, drunk off his ass.   And friendly as hell.   After about 10 minutes of gun talk, we handed his guns back and he went on his happy way.

Better make sure you never get fingerprinted, cause there is an unsolved murder with your prints on the weapon.

Yep. He needed some prints.

When rational people biatch about Unions, it's this kind of crap that is behind the complaint. Sure, band together, get fair pay and benefits. But this farking shiat? Screw this union for ever even asking for it.

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: badhatharry: .05 is not drunk.

.05 isn't even slightly drunk, regardless of what the MADD nannies would like you to believe.

Your statement is as false as theirs. Alcohol impairment based on consumption is highly subjective and based on a huge variety of factors from weight to genetics.

For these reason it should have never been used as a measure of actual impairment. But, using the same type of unfounded hyperbole as MADD does no one any good.

flucto: When rational people biatch about Unions, it's this kind of crap that is behind the complaint. Sure, band together, get fair pay and benefits. But this farking shiat? Screw this union for ever even asking for it.

Ever notice how when The Right goes after unions they always exempt Police and Fire.

I wonder why ...

drjekel_mrhyde: Most cops here don't give a shiat as long as you don't be a smart ass.
/My friend was driving while smoking a farking blunt and I was drinking a six pack(we were 17).
Cops just checked us for hard drugs and guns
Let us go with our shiat and said "go the fark home" , while the blunt was still smoking

More than half of all cops stopped you, eh?