jake_lex: I think Rummy is a scumbag war criminal, but he's right about this.I just wish he was writing this piece during a break in his war crimes trial at The Hague.
NotoriousW.O.P: Well, I can now cross "Donald Rumsfeld is right" off the list of things I never expected to say...
NotEric: LesserEvil:Wrestling belongs in the Olympics. The dominance of Russia and the US are the only reason the Olympic committee is getting rid of it, and that's simply inexcusable as a reason, when weighed against tradition and the very reason there is even an Olympics.Just for comparison's sake, here's the top 5 total medal winners in wrestling from the last Olympics:1: Russia 112: Azerbaijan 73-5: Japan 6Iran 6Georgia 6It would be more interesting if they were upfront for what the reasons were for eliminating wrestling. Is it that much less appealing to global TV audiences than badminton or table tennis? It's not even so much that I care about wrestling, but why isn't speed walking the first thing to go? (Bunch of lousy cheaters. I see you raising both feet off the ground!)
ilikeracecars: I agree with him on most points, but wrestling being Abe Lincoln's favorite sport comes of as a non-sequitor. The point is wrestling is universal and accessible to all.also, Rumsfeld rules? fark him.
MartinD-35: And, before the homophobes get to the plate, both of my sons have really hot wives.</i>
FarkinHostile: MartinD-35: And, before the homophobes get to the plate, both of my sons have really hot wives.</i>Most of us do have smoking hot wives/GFs. Side effect of being in shape and having muscles.The highlight of the last few Olympics for us was Gardiner's win over the I can't remember the Russian guy who was possibly the most dominant athlete in the world at the time.Sorry, but that was one of the most shameful moments of olympic wrestling history, They made a bullshiat rule change before that olympics about getting a point for just breaking a grip and Gardners entire strategy was to exploit it by stalling for a pathetic win by that one point. He did NOT beat Alexander Karelin, he played the game.Shameful.
FarkinHostile: bismark189:You can't hate on a dude for winning within the rules. No one was stopping Karelin from doing the same thing. Oh wait, Gardiner was.Yeah, actually, I can. If you want to glorify winning cheaply over the spirit of true sportsmanship, go ahead. It's typical nowadays. To make a tiny little rule change, easily overlooked, right before a competition to beat an undefeated guy who you couldn't honestly beat any other way was an embarrassment, and I am glad Gardner has had a shiatty life after it. Fat, toeless fark will always be a phony "champion" to me.Karelin is still undefeated in my and several of my fellow wrestlers book.
FarkinHostile: bismark189:So he won cheaply by getting himself to the point where he COULD win gold? Not to mention winning bronze the following Olympics? You make it sound like he was a no-talent assclown.Nope, but he couldn't beat Karelin. Not honestly.You just want to get on your high horse and pretend like you know more about wrestling than anyone else.I do? That's funny, I never said anything even close to that. But hey, don't let that stop you from putting words in my mouth.If you knew as much as you thought you did, you'd know that the rules for freestyle change damn near every year and for Greco-Roman about every two years. Adapt or lose. That's the name of the game.When someone entire strategy is to exploit a very obscure rule change, then stall until the end, that's not wrestling, that's playing mat lawyer. It's cheap, and it's a piss poor way to "win". But again, your opinion is quite typical.But that's ok, you can continue to be butthurt.And you can continue to chant "USA! USA!" and feel proud about a pathetic "victory" for our nation. Good for you. Again, so very typical.Gardner ended up a fat loser. Literally. His biggest accomplishment after that ONE gold metal was being on a weight loss reality show, and is still fat. Just filed for bankruptcy. 24 gold medal winning PhD Karelin? Respected politician. Very successful. With all of his toes, even. So much for butthurt.Sometimes, karma is real.
bismark189: I never said Karelin wasn't the best wrestler ever. I think he is. But damn if you don't get all wargarbl as soon as someone points out something you don't like. I'm leaving this thread now, have fun in your one man circle jerk.
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