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2013-02-15 05:00:14 PM
Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.
 
2013-02-15 05:05:47 PM
Are we all going to die?
 
2013-02-15 05:11:11 PM
Obviously due to global warming.

CNN is making the connection.
 
2013-02-15 05:12:08 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.
 
2013-02-15 05:17:22 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


The short answer is yes.

The long answer is y......... e....... s
 
2013-02-15 05:19:17 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.


You forgot  Abe Vigoda.
 
2013-02-15 05:30:21 PM
Big meteor that fell from the sky but didn't do anything?  Meh, call me when windows shatter again.

Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.  Just because you didn't stop to think about it doesn't mean this is a new thing, just usually they fall over unpopulated areas like the ocean (and in normal circumstances no one would bother to search Cuban Twitter feeds for meteorite reports- this one happened before the Russia one per the article).

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad many people are learning about the dangers today and becoming more aware, but we do get hit by a lot of space rocks.

/astronomer
 
2013-02-15 05:48:24 PM
Of course, no video from 1960's Cuba.
 
2013-02-15 06:29:16 PM
If this is an alien attack, they're doing a piss-poor job of it.
 
2013-02-15 06:32:11 PM

Andromeda: Big meteor that fell from the sky but didn't do anything?  Meh, call me when windows shatter again.

Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.  Just because you didn't stop to think about it doesn't mean this is a new thing, just usually they fall over unpopulated areas like the ocean (and in normal circumstances no one would bother to search Cuban Twitter feeds for meteorite reports- this one happened before the Russia one per the article).

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad many people are learning about the dangers today and becoming more aware, but we do get hit by a lot of space rocks.

/astronomer


Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go. Russians never had advance warning of their tiny event and there's a very good possibility astronomers won't detect the big one. We may be in for a big surprise soon.
 
2013-02-15 06:36:54 PM
shopped.
 
2013-02-15 06:40:11 PM
Video or it didn't happen.
 
2013-02-15 06:41:13 PM

Mentat: If this is an alien attack, they're doing a piss-poor job of it.


Card had it right. The aliens throw rocks.
 
2013-02-15 06:41:31 PM
This one's a hoax. Trust me on this as I spent the day tracking it as it was debunked.
 
2013-02-15 06:41:44 PM
You know who else looked into bunkers?
 
2013-02-15 06:43:03 PM

jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.


Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:12 PM
Still waiting for ANY shred of real evidence here.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:21 PM
sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk
 
2013-02-15 06:44:21 PM
Man Caves are so passé.  Real men have bunkers.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:46 PM
It's official: God hates communists.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:52 PM

AlwaysRightBoy: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

The short answer is yes.

The long answer is y......... e....... s


imageshack.us

imageshack.us
 
2013-02-15 06:44:54 PM
jehovahs witness protection:

Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go. Russians never had advance warning of their tiny event and there's a very good possibility astronomers won't detect the big one. We may be in for a big surprise soon.

The average time between impacts is not a useful predictor of what may lay ahead (by definition, an average only takes into account events that have already occurred). The event to which I think you're referring (the Yucatan impact that probably played a part in the extinction of the non-avian dinosaurs, among many other taxa) occurred  ~65 million years ago. There have been many impacts since that time, some of which have left significant scars on the planet's surface.

Your point that we are still unable to do anything about oncoming bolides is well taken: we need to work out a way to protect ourselves (Bruce Willis isn't going to live forever).
 
2013-02-15 06:46:04 PM
Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?
 
2013-02-15 06:46:16 PM
Probably fake, but just in case I think it's time we start construction on Megalith and Stonehenge.
 
2013-02-15 06:48:27 PM

beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.


Wow, that's a really good point.  Scary when you think about how close we were to a completely different world back then.
 
2013-02-15 06:48:59 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?


Then we go into supervolcanoes and the San Andreas fault.
 
2013-02-15 06:50:24 PM

Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.


I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...
 
2013-02-15 06:50:27 PM
This web page was blocked because it contains malicious content
 
2013-02-15 06:50:31 PM
Was probably just a whale farting.
 
2013-02-15 06:50:44 PM
this is the direct end result of that crazy rock music and the hip hops that all the kids are doing. knock it off before it ruins everyone's lawns.
 
2013-02-15 06:51:27 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go. Russians never had advance warning of their tiny event and there's a very good possibility astronomers won't detect the big one. We may be in for a big surprise soon.


Over the long term, I'd be a lot more worried about supervolcanoes. They're far more frequent than giant meteor or asteroid impacts, and occur on a regular basis. 1816 was known as the Year without a Summer due to a volcanic eruption. Something like that occurs around once every thousand years.
 
2013-02-15 06:52:05 PM

Andromeda: Big meteor that fell from the sky but didn't do anything?  Meh, call me when windows shatter again.

Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.  Just because you didn't stop to think about it doesn't mean this is a new thing, just usually they fall over unpopulated areas like the ocean (and in normal circumstances no one would bother to search Cuban Twitter feeds for meteorite reports- this one happened before the Russia one per the article).

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad many people are learning about the dangers today and becoming more aware, but we do get hit by a lot of space rocks.

/astronomer


You think I buy that?  You're an astronomer, you're one of them!  You're just trying to keep us all in the dark and mollified so you can protect your precious seat on the secret evacuation spaceships.  WELL I'M ON TO YOU, I WILL NOT BE FOOLED.
 
2013-02-15 06:53:03 PM
Nah, it wasn't a meteorite.  I was standing around at the local Walmart throwing or ejaculating my semen all over people when all of a sudden, it was like Jesus exploded from my penis.  That load was so big and shot so high it landed in another country.  Not that I'm bragging or anything, I'm just saying.
 
2013-02-15 06:53:27 PM
Subby, be on your guard against angry sovereign citizens and autistic six year-olds.
 
2013-02-15 06:53:27 PM
Let's burn down the observatory so this never happens again.
 
2013-02-15 06:54:52 PM
Are there any Airbuses missing?
 
2013-02-15 06:55:05 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?


Some farking FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS TO CATCH THIS SHIAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS would be nice...

/Sorry, but it was a lot more geeking-out when I hadn't just wrestled Google for hours.
 
2013-02-15 06:55:16 PM
ALIENS ARE ATTACKING EARTH!!!

AND THEY'RE PICKING OFF THE COMMIES FIRST!!! O_O
 
2013-02-15 06:56:09 PM
Their aim is still a bit off. Closer but off.
 
2013-02-15 06:56:10 PM
Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I just learned that the damage done in Russia was from the shock wave created when the bus sized meteor exploded 25 miles up, not from debris that hit the ground.
 
2013-02-15 06:56:38 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Obviously due to global warming.

CNN is making the connection.


The creationist dude in my gaming forum said this as a joke earlier today (complete with emoticon). I weep for humanity when a 'news' channel actually brings it up.
 
2013-02-15 06:56:56 PM
In news today.... God hates Communists.
 
2013-02-15 06:57:13 PM

Gaius: Man Caves are so passé.  Real men have bunkers.


Like these real men?

u1.ipernity.com
 
2013-02-15 06:57:38 PM

ZzeusS: This web page was blocked because it contains malicious content


C'mon, I'm sure there is nothing malicious about the unpleasant design of that site.  I'm certain they made it ugly all by accident.
 
2013-02-15 06:57:39 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?


It's all an astroturfing campaign.  All the new or spin-off shows this fall will be meteor-centric.  Grabbed the list of shows from an ad agency that handles work for several networks.  Here are a few highlights:

History Channel: WWII Meteors: Was Hitler an alien?

A&E: Meteor Wars and Meteor Wars : Pittsburgh

Syfy: Ghost Meteor vs Sharktopus Apocalypse Hunter International Wrestling

Discovery/TLC: Honey Boo Boo in Space
 
2013-02-15 06:57:56 PM
I think whomever's designed the Cybertronian guidance systems might be out of a job.  Especially if he's near Megatron.
 
2013-02-15 06:58:03 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


No, I'm going to wake up and you're going to disappear.
 
2013-02-15 06:58:14 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Gaius: Man Caves are so passé.  Real men have bunkers.

Like these real men?

[u1.ipernity.com image 479x376]


That is so gay that it wraps all the way around and is straight again.
 
2013-02-15 06:58:46 PM

This sort of stuff happens all the time. Only nowadays we have the internet and 24 hour cable news to help blow everything out of proportion.

Boom's Source A Mystery
Holt County Independent (Nebraska), August 19, 1999


A meteoroid, a sonic boom from a jet traveling across north central Nebraska to the Lincoln area, or...? Officials from across the state are trying to determine the source of a large boom about noon Friday. In O'Neill, the boom was actually two large booms that sounded somewhat like an artillery battery being fired. Some people said they thought a piece of nearby machinery had exploded or that a vehicle had crashed. In some areas the boom was accompanied by ground shaking and even a few broken windows. Ken Reiser of Butte said immediately after he heard the noise he heard a jet in the distance and assumed it had caused a sonic boom. A sonic boom from the speed of a plane would be created as the plane pushed the air ahead of it out of the way and air rushing in behind the plane. Under that theory a plane flying across the state would create a boom as it moved but the mystery noise was heard at the same time in both Lincoln and north central Nebraska. Officials at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha also say it is doubtful that an aircraft was to blame. An Offutt spokesman said base officials checked with the Federal Aviation Administration in Lincoln, Omaha and Minneapolis.

All of those offices said they knew of no military craft flying in the area capable of making the noise. Officials also checked with Edwards Air Force Base in California on the chance that one of its aircraft with supersonic capabilities had flown overhead. There were meteor showers over Nebraska last week and it is possible that a fragment from a meteor, which would become a meteoroid as it enters the earth's atmosphere and a meteorite if it hits the earth, could have caused the boom. Martin Gaskell, UNL professor of physics and astronomy, said a meteoroid large enough to break the atmosphere could create a sonic boom before it hit the earth. If the meteoroid were large enough, he said, it could be heard from Lincoln to north central Nebraska. As of Monday afternoon, however, there were no reports of meteorites discovered in Nebraska in the area where the boom was heard and no reports of any damage

 
2013-02-15 06:59:09 PM

ZzeusS: This web page was blocked because it contains malicious content


Your browser is a middle-school principal.
 
2013-02-15 06:59:24 PM
where iphone video?
poor people in Cuba have iphones.
I know because I saw Juan of the Dead.
 
2013-02-15 07:02:00 PM

IRQ12: beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.

Wow, that's a really good point.  Scary when you think about how close we were to a completely different world back then.


On the news this morning Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that something like this did happen like something-ish years ago and at first WAS interpreted as a nuke until they could prove that it was an asteroid and that is what prevented nuclear war.

Uh does anyone know what exactly he said because I clearly wasn't awake while I watched.
 
2013-02-15 07:02:02 PM

vatica40: Probably fake, but just in case I think it's time we start construction on Megalith and Stonehenge.


I love this post so much
 
2013-02-15 07:03:12 PM
jehovahs witness protection:
Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go.

This may sound like a weird question, but have I accidentally time traveled again?  From the frame of reference I thought was in, the last major event was 66 million years ago.
 
2013-02-15 07:03:27 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: BarkingUnicorn: Gaius: Man Caves are so passé.  Real men have bunkers.

Like these real men?

[u1.ipernity.com image 479x376]

That is so gay that it wraps all the way around and is straight again.


From a page entitled, "Looking at men's underwear: Bunk bed fun," by Miss Magnolia Thunderpussy.

I think it's from a 1940s' college dorm or military induction center.
 
2013-02-15 07:03:28 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?


I'm sure all the references to Superman and Optimus Prime will more than make up for it.
 
2013-02-15 07:03:58 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


Eventually. But probably not today.
 
2013-02-15 07:04:48 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Obviously due to global warming.

CNN is making the connection.


How? How are these idiots keeping their jobs?
 
2013-02-15 07:05:18 PM

spidermilk: IRQ12: beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.

Wow, that's a really good point.  Scary when you think about how close we were to a completely different world back then.

On the news this morning Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that something like this did happen like something-ish years ago and at first WAS interpreted as a nuke until they could prove that it was an asteroid and that is what prevented nuclear war.

Uh does anyone know what exactly he said because I clearly wasn't awake while I watched.


Nobody's completely awake when Neil is speaking.
 
2013-02-15 07:05:47 PM
Meth Lab exploded
 
2013-02-15 07:06:12 PM
Left, two-zero.

Add, three-zero.

Fire for effect, over.
 
2013-02-15 07:06:17 PM

LoneVVolf: Video or it didn't happen.

 
2013-02-15 07:07:29 PM

Mentat: If this is an alien attack, they're doing a piss-poor job of it.


Still, I would like to know more.
 
2013-02-15 07:08:25 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Andromeda: Big meteor that fell from the sky but didn't do anything?  Meh, call me when windows shatter again.

Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.  Just because you didn't stop to think about it doesn't mean this is a new thing, just usually they fall over unpopulated areas like the ocean (and in normal circumstances no one would bother to search Cuban Twitter feeds for meteorite reports- this one happened before the Russia one per the article).

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad many people are learning about the dangers today and becoming more aware, but we do get hit by a lot of space rocks.

/astronomer

Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go. Russians never had advance warning of their tiny event and there's a very good possibility astronomers won't detect the big one. We may be in for a big surprise soon.


Or we could be in for a big surprise 30 million years from now. By your own standard, that would be close enough as estimates go.
 
2013-02-15 07:08:38 PM
KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES!
 
2013-02-15 07:11:06 PM

spidermilk: On the news this morning Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that something like this did happen like something-ish years ago and at first WAS interpreted as a nuke until they could prove that it was an asteroid and that is what prevented nuclear war.

Uh does anyone know what exactly he said because I clearly wasn't awake while I watched.


I remember watching a space program on netflix that commented on it.  I'm kinda drunk, but what I remember is the Russians detected a nuclear radiation source from space that could have been the US launching an attack.  They kept their finger off the button long enough to figure out what it actually was(that I can't remember, but something natural from dying stars, maybe?).  At any rate, they figured out that the source came from deep space, too far away to have been sourced by humans.  I'm sure somebody else has the good details lying around.
 
2013-02-15 07:11:11 PM
i125.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-15 07:11:17 PM

PsiChick: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Some farking FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS TO CATCH THIS SHIAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS would be nice...

/Sorry, but it was a lot more geeking-out when I hadn't just wrestled Google for hours.


Buy a telescope. Funding can always be cut to official programs. Most of these discoveries are done by amatures in the backyard. The more scopes looking up the better.

What happens when extinction is imminent from an inbound object....I think I would rather be clueless than fretting if we only had two days left to live.

Think about the crazies who would go on stabby and rapey sprees if they had nothing left to lose or two days left to live.
 
2013-02-15 07:12:53 PM
Please oh please let a meteorite knock out all civilian GPS satellites. I would pay to see the panic and confusion from everyone as they have to use directions and maps again. Instead of blindly following a screen and a woman telling them where to go as their eyes glaze over and lips drool while they drift into your lane.


/wouldn't mind cell phones bein knocked out for a bit too
 
2013-02-15 07:14:23 PM

Giltric: Think about the crazies who would go on stabby and rapey sprees if they had nothing left to lose or two days left to live.


I try and live my life like that.

/You just never know when it's going to be your time.
 
2013-02-15 07:15:42 PM

SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?


It came from the sky to eat the world!

It is...

Meteorshark!

From the producers that brought you Mansquito and Piranhaconda!
 
2013-02-15 07:16:00 PM
On the plus side, the meteorite fragments will be able to pay for the cost of repair to all the broken windows...
 
2013-02-15 07:16:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: BarkingUnicorn: Gaius: Man Caves are so passé.  Real men have bunkers.

Like these real men?

[u1.ipernity.com image 479x376]

That is so gay that it wraps all the way around and is straight again.

From a page entitled, "Looking at men's underwear: Bunk bed fun," by Miss Magnolia Thunderpussy.

I think it's from a 1940s' college dorm or military induction center.


Please tell Miss Thunderpussy that I wish to subscribe to her newsletter. Not for the quasi-homoghey pics, but so I can get e-mail from Thunderpussy.
 
2013-02-15 07:17:23 PM
What does that even mean, subbs?
 
2013-02-15 07:17:26 PM
Wow, those North Korean missiles might not be accurate, but they've got great range.
 
2013-02-15 07:17:39 PM

SpaceBison: This sort of stuff happens all the time. Only nowadays we have the internet and 24 hour cable news to help blow everything out of proportion.

Boom's Source A Mystery
Holt County Independent (Nebraska), August 19, 1999


A meteoroid, a sonic boom from a jet traveling across north central Nebraska to the Lincoln area, or...? Officials from across the state are trying to determine the source of a large boom about noon Friday. In O'Neill, the boom was actually two large booms that sounded somewhat like an artillery battery being fired. Some people said they thought a piece of nearby machinery had exploded or that a vehicle had crashed. In some areas the boom was accompanied by ground shaking and even a few broken windows. Ken Reiser of Butte said immediately after he heard the noise he heard a jet in the distance and assumed it had caused a sonic boom. A sonic boom from the speed of a plane would be created as the plane pushed the air ahead of it out of the way and air rushing in behind the plane. Under that theory a plane flying across the state would create a boom as it moved but the mystery noise was heard at the same time in both Lincoln and north central Nebraska. Officials at Offutt Air Force Base near Omaha also say it is doubtful that an aircraft was to blame. An Offutt spokesman said base officials checked with the Federal Aviation Administration in Lincoln, Omaha and Minneapolis.

All of those offices said they knew of no military craft flying in the area capable of making the noise. Officials also checked with Edwards Air Force Base in California on the chance that one of its aircraft with supersonic capabilities had flown overhead. There were meteor showers over Nebraska last week and it is possible that a fragment from a meteor, which would become a meteoroid as it enters the earth's atmosphere and a meteorite if it hits the earth, could have caused the boom. Martin Gaskell, UNL professor of physics and astronomy, said a meteoroid large enough to break the ...


Really?  Hundreds of people are injured by meteors exploding in earth's atmosphere every day?  It must only happen in deepest Africa most of the time so no one says anything about it.  The one that hit Russia yesterday was fairly significant compared to the ones that "happen every day".
 
2013-02-15 07:18:16 PM

DeathLemur: KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES!


Watch the skies, traveler.

images2.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-02-15 07:19:48 PM

ladyfortuna: tenpoundsofcheese: Obviously due to global warming.

CNN is making the connection.

The creationist dude in my gaming forum said this as a joke earlier today (complete with emoticon). I weep for humanity when a 'news' channel actually brings it up.


There are definately people dumb enough to think global warming would cause something like this. Therefore, it is a fair question to ask an expert.

And "No, that idea is idiotic" is a fair response.
 
2013-02-15 07:21:15 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I just learned that the damage done in Russia was from the shock wave created when the bus sized meteor exploded 25 miles up, not from debris that hit the ground.


Not only that, but the shock wave was a *cylindrical* wave... moving at ~Mach 100, the meteor was 100 km downrange before the resulting shockwave could propagate 1 km sideways.  The result is like setting off a long line of explosives simultaneously, rather than at a point (like a bomb does).

And what's so special about that?  Energy in a cylindrically spreading wave goes down as 1/r, rather than the 1/r**2 that we're used to.  Which is the reason this thing was able to smash windows 100 km away, whereas an equivalent-release nuke (point source) wouldn't.
 
2013-02-15 07:21:32 PM
From the bottom of the page:

Russian Politician Says Meteorite was U.S. Weapons Test

Vladimir Zhirinovsky say that the meteor shower that hit Russia this morning was really a US weapons test. The liberal leader linked the strike to John Kerry.


Well, I'm convinced. This only lends legitimacy to the site and TFA.
 
2013-02-15 07:22:06 PM

CygnusDarius: DeathLemur: KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES!

Watch the skies, traveler.

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 290x575]




"I used to be an astronomer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee".

/Astronomy has changed...
 
2013-02-15 07:24:07 PM

ladyfortuna: The creationist dude in my gaming forum said this as a joke earlier today (complete with emoticon). I weep for humanity when a 'news' channel actually brings it up.


...especially if the anchor who asked it still has his job the next day.

Krieghund: There are definately people dumb enough to think global warming would cause something like this. Therefore, it is a fair question to ask an expert.


I'd prefer we don't dignify such an idea as a coherent thought.
 
2013-02-15 07:25:29 PM
The Russia meteor was a bit bigger than I thought it'd be...

Preliminary information indicates that a meteor in Chelyabinsk, Russia, is not related to asteroid 2012 DA14, which is flying by Earth safely today. The Russia meteor is the largest reported since 1908, when a meteor hit Tunguska, Siberia. The meteor entered the atmosphere at about 40,000 mph (18 kilometers per second). The impact time was 7:20:26 p.m. PST, or 10:20:26 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (3:20:26 UTC on Feb. 15), and the energy released by the impact was in the hundreds of kilotons. Based on the duration of the event, it was a very shallow entry. It was larger than the meteor over Indonesia on Oct. 8, 2009. Measurements are still coming in, and a more precise measure of the energy may be available later. The size of the object before hitting the atmosphere was about 49 feet (15 meters) and had a mass of about 7,000 tons. The meteor, which was about one-third the diameter of asteroid 2012 DA14, was brighter than the sun. Its trail was visible for about 30 seconds, so it was a grazing impact through the atmosphere. It is important to note that this estimate is preliminary, and may be revised as more data is obtained.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml
 
2013-02-15 07:25:41 PM

ArtosRC: Mentat: If this is an alien attack, they're doing a piss-poor job of it.

Card had it right. The aliens throw rocks.


Then these aliens must be the intergalactic equivalent of the Royals bullpen, because they can't hit shiat.
 
2013-02-15 07:26:47 PM

Andromeda: Big meteor that fell from the sky but didn't do anything?  Meh, call me when windows shatter again.

Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.  Just because you didn't stop to think about it doesn't mean this is a new thing, just usually they fall over unpopulated areas like the ocean (and in normal circumstances no one would bother to search Cuban Twitter feeds for meteorite reports- this one happened before the Russia one per the article).

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad many people are learning about the dangers today and becoming more aware, but we do get hit by a lot of space rocks.

/astronomer


Plus a lot of Poop bags from the space station. Seriously, Chris Hadfield told me so.
 
2013-02-15 07:27:02 PM

PsiChick: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Some farking FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS TO CATCH THIS SHIAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS would be nice...

/Sorry, but it was a lot more geeking-out when I hadn't just wrestled Google for hours.


It's a bigass sky, sir.
 
2013-02-15 07:27:13 PM
It was the ghost of Che coming back to earth in preparation for Fidel's departure.
 
2013-02-15 07:27:14 PM

vatica40: Probably fake, but just in case I think it's time we start construction on Megalith and Stonehenge.


What, no love for the Arkbird?  It would handle smaller fragments nicely..
 
2013-02-15 07:28:05 PM

beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.


it wouldn't have.

cause of teh gay
 
2013-02-15 07:31:40 PM
this_story = (pics? cool : fake);
 
2013-02-15 07:31:41 PM

eyeq360: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Then we go into supervolcanoes and the San Andreas fault.


A relatively modest asteroid impact in US Great Plains area sets off the Yellowstone Supervolcano. . .the resulting seismic activity is just enough to make the San Andreas fault finally snap and send LA into the Pacific ocean right as the Supervolcano is thrusting Earth into a new ice age (and taking out a good chunk of the Continental US in the blast).

Some hack in LA is already writing it, I'm sure.
 
2013-02-15 07:31:45 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I just learned that the damage done in Russia was from the shock wave created when the bus sized meteor exploded 25 miles up, not from debris that hit the ground.


That's what put it into perspective for me.  Imagine if it came down fairly intact into something.  It also amazed me how bright it was.  Looked like someone was welding.
 
2013-02-15 07:35:44 PM

The Shoveller: jehovahs witness protection:

Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go. Russians never had advance warning of their tiny event and there's a very good possibility astronomers won't detect the big one. We may be in for a big surprise soon.

The average time between impacts is not a useful predictor of what may lay ahead (by definition, an average only takes into account events that have already occurred). The event to which I think you're referring (the Yucatan impact that probably played a part in the extinction of the non-avian dinosaurs, among many other taxa) occurred  ~65 million years ago. There have been many impacts since that time, some of which have left significant scars on the planet's surface.

Your point that we are still unable to do anything about oncoming bolides is well taken: we need to work out a way to protect ourselves (Bruce Willis isn't going to live forever).



I like to use the phrase "the dice have no memory" when I explain that. For a big impact it could be tomorrow, could be 15 million years from now. And if one happens tomorrow, then the next day it...... still could be another one hitting tomorrow, or could be 15 million years... When you roll a 6-sided die you've got a 1 in 6 chance of a given number coming up. The next time you roll it it isn't a 1 in 36 chance, it's still a 1 in 6 chance. The dice don't remember previous rolls.

It's not really a chance though, those objects are either out there or not. But we don't really know about them all, so for us we see it for now in terms of chance. Until we actually find and catalog all the objects in the solar system - and have a system actively tracking any new ones that are perturbed or something - we're pretty much just keeping our fingers crossed that no significant impacts affect us.
 
2013-02-15 07:37:24 PM

way south: CygnusDarius: DeathLemur: KEEP WATCHING THE SKIES!

Watch the skies, traveler.

[images2.wikia.nocookie.net image 290x575]

"I used to be an astronomer like you, until I took an arrow to the knee".

/Astronomy has changed...


You see those astronomers from Hammerfell? They have curved telescopes.... Curved. Telescopes.
 
2013-02-15 07:37:44 PM
That meteor hit Russia so hard that trolls started falling out of the internet.
 
2013-02-15 07:37:45 PM

lousyskater: Tunguska, Siberia


Came to mention this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunguska_event
 
2013-02-15 07:38:04 PM
y'all so dumb ain't no aliens til they take out Buenos Aires
 
2013-02-15 07:38:28 PM
Great!  And here I am on a flight from Toronto to DFW.  I'll keep my eyes open out the window and report back later if I see anything.

/Birds-eye view
//GoGo Inflight is greatness
 
2013-02-15 07:38:43 PM

Anglachel: It also amazed me how bright it was.  Looked like someone was welding.


It was basically like looking at a nuclear weapon go off, as it released about as much energy as a small one. Estimated in the hundreds of kilotons, it released 10x more energy than the Little Boy atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima. It's a good thing it came in shallow, otherwise it might have wiped out a town/city.
 
2013-02-15 07:39:01 PM

Scruffinator: spidermilk: On the news this morning Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that something like this did happen like something-ish years ago and at first WAS interpreted as a nuke until they could prove that it was an asteroid and that is what prevented nuclear war.

Uh does anyone know what exactly he said because I clearly wasn't awake while I watched.

I remember watching a space program on netflix that commented on it.  I'm kinda drunk, but what I remember is the Russians detected a nuclear radiation source from space that could have been the US launching an attack.  They kept their finger off the button long enough to figure out what it actually was(that I can't remember, but something natural from dying stars, maybe?).  At any rate, they figured out that the source came from deep space, too far away to have been sourced by humans.  I'm sure somebody else has the good details lying around.


I think it was the sun. It hit their sensors somehow that made their alarms go off and make them think an attack had been launched. It gave one false alarm, then another, then another and so on. I don't recall how many total. But the Soviet in charge thought it was weird, because the US wouldn't launch a handful of nukes in a strike like that, they would launch everything they had, so he held off on retaliating. IIRC, he held off in spite of being ordered to take action by his superiors but I could be wrong.
 
2013-02-15 07:40:14 PM
You're just looking into a bunker subby? The best houses have had one sice the cold war. Mine has enough booze, porn, cheetos, and twinkees to last me till Dr Zaius and his goons find me.
 
2013-02-15 07:40:35 PM

Temporarily Qualmless: Popcorn Johnny: Maybe I wasn't paying attention, but I just learned that the damage done in Russia was from the shock wave created when the bus sized meteor exploded 25 miles up, not from debris that hit the ground.

Not only that, but the shock wave was a *cylindrical* wave... moving at ~Mach 100, the meteor was 100 km downrange before the resulting shockwave could propagate 1 km sideways.  The result is like setting off a long line of explosives simultaneously, rather than at a point (like a bomb does).

And what's so special about that?  Energy in a cylindrically spreading wave goes down as 1/r, rather than the 1/r**2 that we're used to.  Which is the reason this thing was able to smash windows 100 km away, whereas an equivalent-release nuke (point source) wouldn't.


What if you took the same nuke and gave it mach 100 and slowed down it going critical so energy would be released at the same rate as the meteor. Broken windows then?

Or did the broken windows have a lot more to do with the large amount of energy released, not the geometric dispersion.
 
2013-02-15 07:40:59 PM
just got around to opening the link.  Cienfuegos - 100 Fires.  Coincidence?  I think not!

/listening to Pink Floyd...somehow appropriate
 
2013-02-15 07:41:33 PM
Here is a link to Wiki on the close call in 1983
 
2013-02-15 07:41:43 PM
I'm heading to Cuba in 2 weeks, getting a kick outta these replies and whatnot. If one does hit, I hope it takes out all the French Canadian tourists.
/I keed
/maybe
 
2013-02-15 07:43:18 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.


Will they be making babies to rebuild the population?
 
2013-02-15 07:44:30 PM

beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.


Seriously....or 50 years ago. Imagine 1962, Kennedy & Kruschev are tense over the cuban missle crisis ...space rocks that only target communist nations suddenly fall from the sky ...

Wait, was this a movie?.
 
2013-02-15 07:45:54 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.



And Keith Richards
 
2013-02-15 07:47:24 PM

Silverstaff: eyeq360: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Then we go into supervolcanoes and the San Andreas fault.

A relatively modest asteroid impact in US Great Plains area sets off the Yellowstone Supervolcano. . .the resulting seismic activity is just enough to make the San Andreas fault finally snap and send LA into the Pacific ocean right as the Supervolcano is thrusting Earth into a new ice age (and taking out a good chunk of the Continental US in the blast).

Some hack in LA is already writing it, I'm sure.


Sounds better than any farking movie put out in the last decade, frankly.

Lucifer's Hammer the movie. Book it, done. It should sell right in the room.
 
2013-02-15 07:49:23 PM
Bring it on!

i.ytimg.com
 
2013-02-15 07:51:23 PM
3 similar events in an arbitrarily defined short amount of time! Ban objects from moving close to the earth! Ban astronomy for the Children!
 
2013-02-15 07:56:19 PM

Andromeda: Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.


Everyone here is making jokes about it, so it's not clear who you are lecturing with such parental concern.   But meteorites creating 300kt explosions, and passes within 17k miles are not everyday events. These were a bit more than 10 grams.  :-) BTW - most professional astronomers quoted in the media are calling this a very interesting and amazing series of events.
 
2013-02-15 07:56:45 PM

mizchief: 3 similar events in an arbitrarily defined short amount of time! Ban objects from moving close to the earth! Ban astronomy for the Children!


Clearly Earth needs more meteor-armed citizens.  The only way to stop a bad meteor is with a good meteor.
 
2013-02-15 07:58:04 PM
What this means is that you are officially 0.003475% more likely to die in the next few days than you would have been otherwise.
 
2013-02-15 07:58:16 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

/ wanted for questioning
 
2013-02-15 08:01:36 PM

joeflood: Discovery/TLC: Honey Boo Boo in Space


I would watch that as long as they leave them there.
 
2013-02-15 08:01:48 PM
If only the earth had a gun, it could defend itself from...

anyway, I'm waiting for Nyancat to be edited into some of those videos.
 
2013-02-15 08:01:49 PM

basemetal: Of course, no video from 1960's Cuba.


Developing film takes time.
 
2013-02-15 08:01:59 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


www.cncgames.com

Vote for me if you want to live
 
2013-02-15 08:03:03 PM

publikenemy: Please oh please let a meteorite knock out all civilian GPS satellites. I would pay to see the panic and confusion from everyone as they have to use directions and maps again. Instead of blindly following a screen and a woman telling them where to go as their eyes glaze over and lips drool while they drift into your lane.


/wouldn't mind cell phones bein knocked out for a bit too


I had a very bad day in one of my automotive classes when a couple of us older students (I was 28-ish, others were 40+) and the instructor were talking about Thomas Guides. It turned into a full-on facepalm moment when the requisite question from the kid in the back of "What's a Thomas Guide?" was answered with "Google it!"

/off my lawn
 
2013-02-15 08:03:15 PM

Mentat: mizchief: 3 similar events in an arbitrarily defined short amount of time! Ban objects from moving close to the earth! Ban astronomy for the Children!

Clearly Earth needs more meteor-armed citizens.  The only way to stop a bad meteor is with a good meteor.


Or everyone could chill the fark out and realize it's a freak event and move on with their lives...
 
2013-02-15 08:04:13 PM
I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.
 
2013-02-15 08:04:49 PM
Ban meteors, won't somebody think of the children?
 
2013-02-15 08:06:28 PM
Now is not the time to talk about banning meteors!
 
2013-02-15 08:08:56 PM
Residents described the object as being comparable in size to a bus

How the hell can anyone tell what the size of a falling, and then exploding meteor is?
 
2013-02-15 08:10:08 PM

ISO15693: beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.

Seriously....or 50 years ago. Imagine 1962, Kennedy & Kruschev are tense over the cuban missle crisis ...space rocks that only target communist nations suddenly fall from the sky ...

Wait, was this a movie?.


We are all stars in the new Michael Bay reality TV Show: Meteors!
 
2013-02-15 08:10:30 PM
Are you gonna drop the bomb or not?

media.threadless.com

Standing in a sand pit, life is a short trip
 
2013-02-15 08:11:05 PM

veedeevadeevoodee: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 850x459]

/ wanted for questioning


Zombie Booger?
 
2013-02-15 08:11:07 PM

beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.


Russia and Cuba on the same day?  its like a Cold War wet dream
 
2013-02-15 08:12:21 PM

czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.


Iron Sky on FB had a status update saying (in German) that the attack was beginning.
 
2013-02-15 08:14:06 PM
Ban Glock AR-47 Military-style assault meteors

/come on, Senator Feinstein
//get that bill ready, woman!!!
 
2013-02-15 08:14:13 PM

SlothB77: beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.

Russia and Cuba on the same day?  its like a Cold War wet dream


The Pope steps down and the Godless Commies get theirs.
 
2013-02-15 08:14:24 PM

czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.


Ah yes the documentry on what if Sara Palin was POTUS.
 
2013-02-15 08:15:22 PM
How about this for a conspiracy twist?  The aliens are sending us little ones to warn us about a big one. They believe that this will make us pay attention to the skies better and maybe spot the big one heading our way. They have non treaties between each other of noninterference but some want to help us and are doing it in a subtle untraceable way.
 
2013-02-15 08:15:25 PM
Totally passing through a patch of them, like i first suspected, but Phil Plait will be along any moment to tell us these are all just astronomical coincidences and there's no need to worry.
 
2013-02-15 08:15:49 PM

Gilligann: Residents described the object as being comparable in size to a bus

How the hell can anyone tell what the size of a falling, and then exploding meteor is?


This. Humans have no skill at estimating the size of an unfamiliar, brilliantly glowing object in the sky.

I think that description -- in fact, the whole report -- is mainly because they read about the Russian event, and decided they wanted some media attention as well.
 
2013-02-15 08:17:02 PM

jehovahs witness protection: Major events happen about once every hundred million years. The last one was 85 million years ago, which is close enough as estimates go. Russians never had advance warning of their tiny event and there's a very good possibility astronomers won't detect the big one. We may be in for a big surprise soon.


And by "soon", you actually mean "sometime in the next fifteen million years, give or take fifty million years."
 
2013-02-15 08:18:27 PM
I think it's funny that people think this and the Russian meteorite weren't being tracked by anyone. What did you want them to do? Panic a 2000 square mile area projected landing zone and then have more damage occur from riots and looting. And then have it turn out to blow completely in the asmosphere? But yeah. Keep thinking no one is tracking all of these objects if it will help you sleep at night not considering they are in their bunkers right now with trajectory maps on the big screen showing potential impact areas in YOUR county and purposly not sounding a single alarm because of these very same concerns.
 
2013-02-15 08:21:28 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


Yes but hopefully not until we can download our consciousness into the internets.
 
2013-02-15 08:22:28 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes but hopefully not until we can download our consciousness into the internets.


And delete all that porn from your HD
 
2013-02-15 08:24:06 PM
Looks like we need to consider banning these things. Imagine if one threw right into a school.
 
2013-02-15 08:24:15 PM
A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open.

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!
 
2013-02-15 08:25:31 PM
A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!
 
2013-02-15 08:28:02 PM

beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.


Chelyabinsk is home to Russian nuclear weapons production facilities and this meteor looked like a 300-kiloton airburst.  Scary.  But, the Soviets actually tested a weapon that size at high altitude in the 1960s (much higher than the meteor actually) and the EMP fried their own electrical grid for hundreds of miles.  So one would think the fact the lights were still on would be a clue.
 
2013-02-15 08:31:45 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


CSB
CSB
 
2013-02-15 08:32:57 PM
If I were Best Korea, I would try to get my fingerprints all over these.

Better bang for their buck chosun won.

They see me roguing, they hatin'...
 
2013-02-15 08:33:12 PM
can't wait to see all the dash-cam footage from all the 1954 Bel-Airs
 
2013-02-15 08:35:22 PM

Brett.M: We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com

Don't throw out those bottlecaps. Could be worth something, someday.
 
2013-02-15 08:35:33 PM
Dawn of the 1st day?

images.nonexiste.net
 
2013-02-15 08:35:36 PM

trappedspirit: I think it's funny that people think this and the Russian meteorite weren't being tracked by anyone. What did you want them to do? Panic a 2000 square mile area projected landing zone and then have more damage occur from riots and looting. And then have it turn out to blow completely in the asmosphere? But yeah. Keep thinking no one is tracking all of these objects if it will help you sleep at night not considering they are in their bunkers right now with trajectory maps on the big screen showing potential impact areas in YOUR county and purposly not sounding a single alarm because of these very same concerns.


You don't have the slightest idea how any of this actually works, do you?
 
2013-02-15 08:36:23 PM

mattg: Still waiting for ANY shred of real evidence here.


It's more likely fabricated than two such incidents happened in the same day. Move along.
 
2013-02-15 08:36:41 PM

lousyskater: The Russia meteor was a bit bigger than I thought it'd be...

Preliminary information indicates that a meteor in Chelyabinsk, Russia, is not related to asteroid 2012 DA14, which is flying by Earth safely today. The Russia meteor is the largest reported since 1908, when a meteor hit Tunguska, Siberia. The meteor entered the atmosphere at about 40,000 mph (18 kilometers per second). The impact time was 7:20:26 p.m. PST, or 10:20:26 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (3:20:26 UTC on Feb. 15), and the energy released by the impact was in the hundreds of kilotons. Based on the duration of the event, it was a very shallow entry. It was larger than the meteor over Indonesia on Oct. 8, 2009. Measurements are still coming in, and a more precise measure of the energy may be available later. The size of the object before hitting the atmosphere was about 49 feet (15 meters) and had a mass of about 7,000 tons. The meteor, which was about one-third the diameter of asteroid 2012 DA14, was brighter than the sun. Its trail was visible for about 30 seconds, so it was a grazing impact through the atmosphere. It is important to note that this estimate is preliminary, and may be revised as more data is obtained.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml


Holy moley, That was a close call! I didn't realize that the main piece(s) left the atmosphere again, but in retrospect the trail kind of gives that indication. It that thing hadn't come in so shallow, it would've been a whopper and that region may have been decimated.
 
2013-02-15 08:42:28 PM
So are these meteorites fragments of the asteroid that we didn't need to worry about passing too close
to the earth?
 
2013-02-15 08:44:10 PM

Giltric: PsiChick: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Some farking FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS TO CATCH THIS SHIAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS would be nice...

/Sorry, but it was a lot more geeking-out when I hadn't just wrestled Google for hours.

Buy a telescope. Funding can always be cut to official programs. Most of these discoveries are done by amatures in the backyard. The more scopes looking up the better.

What happens when extinction is imminent from an inbound object....I think I would rather be clueless than fretting if we only had two days left to live.

Think about the crazies who would go on stabby and rapey sprees if they had nothing left to lose or two days left to live.


In order to have a chance of seeing a 2m or 3m-sized object at 1000km distance, you need a telescope of about 1m to 2m in diameter, in order to have the necessary resolving power.

Now, at 30km per second, that's about 33 seconds warning before atmospheric impact.

Your little 20cm Celestron isn't going to cut it for this type of work, which is why "real" funding is required.
 
2013-02-15 08:47:19 PM

czetie: Iron Sky


I just looked that up, I've seen Star Wreck and didn't know they made another.
 
2013-02-15 08:50:15 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Totally passing through a patch of them, like i first suspected, but Phil Plait will be along any moment to tell us these are all just astronomical coincidences and there's no need to worry.


So you've also noticed the bad astronomer is nothing more than a ass kissing, mouthpiece to establishment.
 
2013-02-15 08:50:34 PM

Eegah: lousyskater: The Russia meteor was a bit bigger than I thought it'd be...

grazing impact

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml

Holy moley, That was a close call! I didn't realize that the main piece(s) left the atmosphere again, but in retrospect the trail kind of gives that indication. It that thing hadn't come in so shallow, it would've been a whopper and that region may have been decimated.


On second thought, maybe I misunderstood. I thought "grazing impact" meant it left again. Maybe it just means "would have left but the atmosphere got in the way".
 
2013-02-15 08:52:38 PM

germ78: czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.

Iron Sky on FB had a status update saying (in German) that the attack was beginning.


That's mah boyz!
 
2013-02-15 08:55:03 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


Make sure the neighbors don't find out about your shelter....
 
2013-02-15 08:55:16 PM

germ78: czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.

Iron Sky on FB had a status update saying (in German) that the attack was beginning.


I cannot into German but this?
"Und dann beginnen wir mit dem Meteor-Blitzkrieg und fegen alle diese Untermenschen von der Erdkart" -"Wolfgang Kortzfleisch
 
2013-02-15 08:56:52 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


As a Cold Warrior late to the game...

*Tremendous envy.*
 
2013-02-15 08:59:50 PM
www.cyburbia.org
 
2013-02-15 09:00:44 PM
I don't believe this. Especially since it apparently happened BEFORE Russia made the news. I think Cuba just wants to be the the attention whore here.
 
2013-02-15 09:02:43 PM

J. Frank Parnell: Totally passing through a patch of them, like i first suspected, but Phil Plait will be along any moment to tell us these are all just astronomical coincidences and there's no need to worry.



Asteroids/meteoroids* sometimes do occur in groups, but not these two (still waiting for confirmation of the Cuban object). The larger one that missed by 17K miles and the one that blew up over Russia were moving in different directions and could not both have belonged to any one group.

Coincidences happen.

*They're pretty much the same thing. Basically, if we see it while its in space, it's an asteroid. If it hits Earth's atmosphere before being seen, it's a meteoroid.
 
2013-02-15 09:03:11 PM
hmm, I watched 'Battleship' last night and today it appears that we're definitely under attack.. erm... B1?
 
2013-02-15 09:04:20 PM

SpaceBison: This sort of stuff happens all the time. Only nowadays we have the internet and 24 hour cable news to help blow everything out of proportion.


Not the only reason that the Russia thing made the news. 1000 people injured, and about 1 million square feet of glass shattered, those are newsworthy events, it's not just something blown out of proportion by the 24 hour news cycle.

The difference between your "exactly the same" story, and what happened this morning is obvious in the very last line of your story: "... no reports of any damage."

This wasn't the end of the world, but it wasn't blown out of proportion, either.
 
2013-02-15 09:04:32 PM

germ78: On the plus side, the meteorite fragments will be able to pay for the cost of repair to all the broken windows...


Surprised nobody has posted a pic from Creepshow's Jordy Verrill story...
 
2013-02-15 09:11:36 PM
basemetal: Of course, no video from 1960's Cuba.

They're up to 1980 technology.

Here's the latest screen shot:
i47.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-15 09:12:09 PM

occamswrist: Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.

I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...



They can; in fact, multiple meteors following the same course through the atmosphere and multiple meteors occurring almost simultaneously on parallel courses have both been observed. However, all of the objects in a given cluster share a common orbit around the sun. If two objects come from different directions, they can't belong to the same cluster.

Random events will appear to cluster over time as well. If they always occur at widely spaced intervals, they're not random.
 
2013-02-15 09:14:26 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-15 09:15:36 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Obviously due to global warming.

A CNN reporter who doesn't understand science is making the asking if there is a connection.


Scientific illiteracy is apolitical...unlike your trolling.
 
2013-02-15 09:16:50 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


Way cool.
Do you have pics?
 
2013-02-15 09:17:58 PM
bullshiat... it's ALL

BULLSHIAT
 
2013-02-15 09:18:26 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


Cool story, but terribly written. 6/10
 
2013-02-15 09:18:51 PM

Frederick: J. Frank Parnell: Totally passing through a patch of them, like i first suspected, but Phil Plait will be along any moment to tell us these are all just astronomical coincidences and there's no need to worry.

So you've also noticed the bad astronomer is nothing more than a ass kissing, mouthpiece to establishment.


blayne.dark-ware.org
Settle down Agent.
 
2013-02-15 09:19:03 PM

vodka: bullshiat... it's ALL

BULLSHIAT


I disagree.  Those are not bulls.
 
2013-02-15 09:19:32 PM

BarkingUnicorn: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

No, I'm going to wake up and you're going to disappear.


Wake Up and Disappear was a great album.

/obscure
//seriously, that's probably obscure even for Fark
 
2013-02-15 09:22:15 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: occamswrist: Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.

I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...


They can; in fact, multiple meteors following the same course through the atmosphere and multiple meteors occurring almost simultaneously on parallel courses have both been observed. However, all of the objects in a given cluster share a common orbit around the sun. If two objects come from different directions, they can't belong to the same cluster.

Random events will appear to cluster over time as well. If they always occur at widely spaced intervals, they're not random.


Much more likely that as the asteroid approached the sun the heat caused it to crack and a piece fell off, travelling roughly with the same speed and direction as the main body, +/- the velocity caused by breaking apart from the main rock.  /repeatable
 
2013-02-15 09:28:13 PM
According to the prophecies of Saint Malachy Rome will be destroyed by meteorites in the jewish year of AM 5773 just after the Black Pope takes the seat of St. Peter.

/The current Jewish year is 5773
//The next Pope is likely to be Black
///Nostradamus was nothing next to Saint Malachy
//// I listen to way too much coasttocoastam.com
 
2013-02-15 09:30:04 PM

PsiChick: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Some farking FUNDING FOR PROGRAMS TO CATCH THIS SHIAT BEFORE IT HAPPENS would be nice...

/Sorry, but it was a lot more geeking-out when I hadn't just wrestled Google for hours.



They're working on it:

http://www.fallingstar.com/

$5 million sounds like a bargain.
 
2013-02-15 09:30:31 PM

libranoelrose: Was probably just a whale farting.


www.neutralzone.de
Yeah.
Who cares about whales?
 
2013-02-15 09:30:40 PM
It's not impossible they could be part of the same swarm. Ever heard of a "meteor shower"? Those somewhat predictable events in which multiple meteors strike the Earth's atmosphere at the same time, just usually they're too small to hit the ground? No reason we couldn't have two larger ones at the same time as well.

Because let's face it, all the predictions astronomers have been making for the past 15 or 20 years, about the risks of an asteroid or large meteor strike haven't just been scaremongering or vague warnings of something that "might" happen. Just because an event is statistically unlikely doesn't mean it couldn't happen tomorrow...or today, as we just saw. What occurred in Russia was the same thing that happened in Tunguska 108 years ago, only this time it happened over a populated area. A big meteor sneaked up on us because we're not watching for them, and detonated over the land. Lucky for us, as someone already observed, nobody has their fingers on the red buttons any more.

And the reason stuff like this doesn't seem to happen more often is that most of the planet is water. If this had happened out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, which it probably has more than once in the last hundred years, there'd have been no cell phones, and no broken windows or casualties. That doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Just that this time we weren't quite as lucky.
 
2013-02-15 09:31:04 PM
Why the heck is a reference to coldwar era russia filtered?
 
2013-02-15 09:31:05 PM
 
2013-02-15 09:33:51 PM

Tony_Pepperoni: Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!

Way cool.
Do you have pics?


In California old bomb shelters are now called wine cellars and add $$$ to the price of the home.
 
2013-02-15 09:34:09 PM

kokomo61: Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open. 

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.   

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!

Make sure the neighbors don't find out about your shelter....


And WHATEVER you do, don't post it on the Internet. Nothing could be more stupid.
 
2013-02-15 09:36:04 PM

MaliFinn: common sense is an oxymoron: occamswrist: Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.

I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...


They can; in fact, multiple meteors following the same course through the atmosphere and multiple meteors occurring almost simultaneously on parallel courses have both been observed. However, all of the objects in a given cluster share a common orbit around the sun. If two objects come from different directions, they can't belong to the same cluster.

Random events will appear to cluster over time as well. If they always occur at widely spaced intervals, they're not random.

Much more likely that as the asteroid approached the sun the heat caused it to crack and a piece fell off, travelling roughly with the same speed and direction as the main body, +/- the velocity caused by breaking apart from the main rock.  /repeatable



This happens to comets routinely. The separation velocity, however, is negligible compared to the orbital velocity. If two objects share the same orbit, or close to it, then perhaps something like this may have happened. If not, then no.
 
2013-02-15 09:40:23 PM

Silverstaff: eyeq360: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Then we go into supervolcanoes and the San Andreas fault.

A relatively modest asteroid impact in US Great Plains area sets off the Yellowstone Supervolcano. . .the resulting seismic activity is just enough to make the San Andreas fault finally snap and send LA into the Pacific ocean right as the Supervolcano is thrusting Earth into a new ice age (and taking out a good chunk of the Continental US in the blast).

Some hack in LA is already writing it, I'm sure.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-15 09:42:02 PM
common sense is an oxymoron:

MaliFinn: common sense is an oxymoron: occamswrist: Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.

I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...


They can; in fact, multiple meteors following the same course through the atmosphere and multiple meteors occurring almost simultaneously on parallel courses have both been observed. However, all of the objects in a given cluster share a common orbit around the sun. If two objects come from different directions, they can't belong to the same cluster.

Random events will appear to cluster over time as well. If they always occur at widely spaced intervals, they're not random.

Much more likely that as the asteroid approached the sun the heat caused it to crack and a piece fell off, travelling roughly with the same speed and direction as the main body, +/- the velocity caused by breaking apart from the main rock. /repeatable


This happens to comets routinely. The separation velocity, however, is negligible compared to the orbital velocity. If two objects share the same orbit, or close to it, then perhaps something like this may have happened. If not, then no.


From what I understand / heard, the two objects were coming in from radically different directions, and so unrelated.

I shrug and mention "Hey, we have these things called meteor showers where we pass through a *known* trail of debris, and get pelted with kilotons (guessing) of stuff."

Is no big deal.
 
2013-02-15 09:42:08 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.


What's up with not knowing how to spell Stephen Hawking properly? I've seen it a lot lately.
 
2013-02-15 09:43:02 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible they could be part of the same swarm. Ever heard of a "meteor shower"? Those somewhat predictable events in which multiple meteors strike the Earth's atmosphere at the same time, just usually they're too small to hit the ground? No reason we couldn't have two larger ones at the same time as well.



Meteor showers are caused by Earth passing through the debris streams left by passing comets. All of the meteors in a given shower share a common orbit, that of the source comet.

If two meteors are in different orbits, they can't belong to the same swarm.
 
2013-02-15 09:44:29 PM
saturn badger:

Silverstaff: eyeq360: SN1987a goes boom: Oh great, does this mean we'll get 3-4 new asteroid movies and a new History channel "shark week"-esque series on meteors?

Then we go into supervolcanoes and the San Andreas fault.

A relatively modest asteroid impact in US Great Plains area sets off the Yellowstone Supervolcano. . .the resulting seismic activity is just enough to make the San Andreas fault finally snap and send LA into the Pacific ocean right as the Supervolcano is thrusting Earth into a new ice age (and taking out a good chunk of the Continental US in the blast).

Some hack in LA is already writing it, I'm sure.

upload.wikimedia.org


I love that movie if for no other reason than that it doesn't offer up the usual Hollywood happy ending.
 
2013-02-15 09:44:37 PM

Eegah: Eegah: lousyskater: The Russia meteor was a bit bigger than I thought it'd be...

grazing impact

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml

Holy moley, That was a close call! I didn't realize that the main piece(s) left the atmosphere again, but in retrospect the trail kind of gives that indication. It that thing hadn't come in so shallow, it would've been a whopper and that region may have been decimated.

On second thought, maybe I misunderstood. I thought "grazing impact" meant it left again. Maybe it just means "would have left but the atmosphere got in the way".


It means it came in at a very low angle as to burn up before it could even come close to the ground. Had it come in at a much steeper incline it would have wiped out any city/town in it's way.
 
2013-02-15 09:45:32 PM
We have so many powerful images from the Russian meteor event that this Cuban meteror even if it did fall may as well not have in terms of it being a story due to the paucity of evidence beyond eyewitnesses.

Bot so much "pics or it didn't happen" as "pics or it may as well not have".
 
2013-02-15 09:47:45 PM

neongoats: Lucifer's Hammer the movie. Book it, done. It should sell right in the room.


Agreed. If done right it would be epic.
 
2013-02-15 09:50:13 PM

czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.


That was a pretty good movie. It had its moments.
 
2013-02-15 09:53:13 PM
My dad saw and heard a pretty big meteor distintigration in a remote area of western south dakota in the 70s while working for the railroad.  This isn't actually that unusual.
 
2013-02-15 09:55:24 PM
This thread requires a mention of Spaceguard and the fact that most of the scarier objects (Torino-scale speaking,) were first observed by amateurs.
There's always another out there. The worst ones come in on tight hairpin orbits such that they're coming towards us with the Sun in our eyes, so. A) they're invisible until they're almost upon us, and B) they're moving very, very fast. You sort of have to find them long before they start their turn around the sun if you're going to know they're coming at all.
 
2013-02-15 09:57:10 PM

Eegah: lousyskater: The Russia meteor was a bit bigger than I thought it'd be...

Preliminary information indicates that a meteor in Chelyabinsk, Russia, is not related to asteroid 2012 DA14, which is flying by Earth safely today. The Russia meteor is the largest reported since 1908, when a meteor hit Tunguska, Siberia. The meteor entered the atmosphere at about 40,000 mph (18 kilometers per second). The impact time was 7:20:26 p.m. PST, or 10:20:26 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (3:20:26 UTC on Feb. 15), and the energy released by the impact was in the hundreds of kilotons. Based on the duration of the event, it was a very shallow entry. It was larger than the meteor over Indonesia on Oct. 8, 2009. Measurements are still coming in, and a more precise measure of the energy may be available later. The size of the object before hitting the atmosphere was about 49 feet (15 meters) and had a mass of about 7,000 tons. The meteor, which was about one-third the diameter of asteroid 2012 DA14, was brighter than the sun. Its trail was visible for about 30 seconds, so it was a grazing impact through the atmosphere. It is important to note that this estimate is preliminary, and may be revised as more data is obtained.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml

Holy moley, That was a close call! I didn't realize that the main piece(s) left the atmosphere again, but in retrospect the trail kind of gives that indication. It that thing hadn't come in so shallow, it would've been a whopper and that region may have been decimated.


Where does it say that? It came in at a low angle. Hence grazing.
 
2013-02-15 09:59:37 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open.

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


Wow too bad that was the day your camera was at the shop getting repaired!

/oh who am I kidding none of that is true
 
2013-02-15 10:04:42 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible they could be part of the same swarm. Ever heard of a "meteor shower"? Those somewhat predictable events in which multiple meteors strike the Earth's atmosphere at the same time, just usually they're too small to hit the ground? No reason we couldn't have two larger ones at the same time as well.


Meteor showers are caused by Earth passing through the debris streams left by passing comets. All of the meteors in a given shower share a common orbit, that of the source comet.

If two meteors are in different orbits, they can't belong to the same swarm.


It's not impossible, is my point dearie.
 
2013-02-15 10:07:12 PM

ko_kyi: My dad saw and heard a pretty big meteor distintigration in a remote area of western south dakota in the 70s while working for the railroad.  This isn't actually that unusual.


It is when it explodes with the force of a nuclear weapon and injures over 1000 people from 20 miles away.
 
2013-02-15 10:08:08 PM
2+2=5
Amirite?
 
2013-02-15 10:09:13 PM
ko_kyi:

My dad saw and heard a pretty big meteor distintigration in a remote area of western south dakota in the 70s while working for the railroad. This isn't actually that unusual.

I didn't hear it, but I remember when I was a kid getting out of the car one winter's night and seeing an intensely green fireball travel from zenith to the west-south-west horizon. It had to be very high up, because I had enough time to say "Oh shiat!" and my sister had time to turn and see it.

And I'm always going to associate that color with "The Color Out of Space."
 
2013-02-15 10:09:16 PM

jojostan: You know who else looked into bunkers?



Archie???
 
2013-02-15 10:10:04 PM

Gyrfalcon: common sense is an oxymoron: Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible they could be part of the same swarm. Ever heard of a "meteor shower"? Those somewhat predictable events in which multiple meteors strike the Earth's atmosphere at the same time, just usually they're too small to hit the ground? No reason we couldn't have two larger ones at the same time as well.


Meteor showers are caused by Earth passing through the debris streams left by passing comets. All of the meteors in a given shower share a common orbit, that of the source comet.

If two meteors are in different orbits, they can't belong to the same swarm.

It's not impossible, is my point dearie.


i3.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-02-15 10:11:42 PM

Gyrfalcon: common sense is an oxymoron: Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible they could be part of the same swarm. Ever heard of a "meteor shower"? Those somewhat predictable events in which multiple meteors strike the Earth's atmosphere at the same time, just usually they're too small to hit the ground? No reason we couldn't have two larger ones at the same time as well.


Meteor showers are caused by Earth passing through the debris streams left by passing comets. All of the meteors in a given shower share a common orbit, that of the source comet.

If two meteors are in different orbits, they can't belong to the same swarm.

It's not impossible, is my point dearie.


If you are suggesting that they are from the same "swarm", it pretty much is impossible...short of aliens reversing the orbit of tat one rock...
 
2013-02-15 10:14:00 PM

saturn badger: Eegah: lousyskater: The Russia meteor was a bit bigger than I thought it'd be...

Preliminary information indicates that a meteor in Chelyabinsk, Russia, is not related to asteroid 2012 DA14, which is flying by Earth safely today. The Russia meteor is the largest reported since 1908, when a meteor hit Tunguska, Siberia. The meteor entered the atmosphere at about 40,000 mph (18 kilometers per second). The impact time was 7:20:26 p.m. PST, or 10:20:26 p.m. EST on Feb. 14 (3:20:26 UTC on Feb. 15), and the energy released by the impact was in the hundreds of kilotons. Based on the duration of the event, it was a very shallow entry. It was larger than the meteor over Indonesia on Oct. 8, 2009. Measurements are still coming in, and a more precise measure of the energy may be available later. The size of the object before hitting the atmosphere was about 49 feet (15 meters) and had a mass of about 7,000 tons. The meteor, which was about one-third the diameter of asteroid 2012 DA14, was brighter than the sun. Its trail was visible for about 30 seconds, so it was a grazing impact through the atmosphere. It is important to note that this estimate is preliminary, and may be revised as more data is obtained.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml

Holy moley, That was a close call! I didn't realize that the main piece(s) left the atmosphere again, but in retrospect the trail kind of gives that indication. It that thing hadn't come in so shallow, it would've been a whopper and that region may have been decimated.

Where does it say that? It came in at a low angle. Hence grazing.


Here is the 1972 grazing event which was also about the same size. This one did leave the atmosphere after grazing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Daylight_1972_Fireball
 
2013-02-15 10:14:37 PM

uncleacid: Are there any Airbuses Airbusii missing?

 
2013-02-15 10:21:04 PM

lousyskater: Anglachel: It also amazed me how bright it was.  Looked like someone was welding.

It was basically like looking at a nuclear weapon go off, as it released about as much energy as a small one. Estimated in the hundreds of kilotons, it released 10x more energy than the Little Boy atomic bomb that was dropped on Hiroshima. It's a good thing it came in shallow, otherwise it might have wiped out a town/city.


Meteor Crater in Arizona was made by a rock about the same size. It was able to reach the ground.
 
2013-02-15 10:21:34 PM
Gyrfalcon:

common sense is an oxymoron: Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible they could be part of the same swarm. Ever heard of a "meteor shower"? Those somewhat predictable events in which multiple meteors strike the Earth's atmosphere at the same time, just usually they're too small to hit the ground? No reason we couldn't have two larger ones at the same time as well.


Meteor showers are caused by Earth passing through the debris streams left by passing comets. All of the meteors in a given shower share a common orbit, that of the source comet.

If two meteors are in different orbits, they can't belong to the same swarm.

It's not impossible, is my point dearie.


Not impossible, but damn unlikely. I'm willing to be corrected, but saying that two different meteors traveling on two different paths are parts of the same whole is sort of like saying two different bullets striking from different angles came from the same gun in the same position. Without knowing how far apart the two meteor's vectors were, I can't say, but...

Grassy Knoll aficionados need not apply...
 
2013-02-15 10:22:14 PM

lousyskater: It is when it explodes with the force of a nuclear weapon and injures over 1000 people from 20 miles away.


I meant the Cuban event, not the Russian one which was unusual, at least in human lifetimes
 
2013-02-15 10:30:27 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open.

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!



This guy seen nearby trying to sell vintage baseball cards:
farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-15 10:39:29 PM

ArtosRC: Mentat: If this is an alien attack, they're doing a piss-poor job of it.

Card had it right. The aliens throw rocks.


Clarke and Heinlein had it right you mean.
 
2013-02-15 10:41:42 PM
Let's say that the earth has now entered a belt of very large meteors and it's very likely that thousands, if not millions, of people will be killed.  If you were running the government, would you issue any warnings?
 
2013-02-15 10:45:56 PM
Russian bunkers are very comfortable these days.

cdn.cstatic.net
 
2013-02-15 10:45:58 PM

uncleacid: Are there any Airbuses missing?


ih0.redbubble.net
 
2013-02-15 10:46:53 PM

Fissile: Let's say that the earth has now entered a belt of very large meteors and it's very likely that thousands, if not millions, of people will be killed.  If you were running the government, would you issue any warnings?


Dude, the govt is the last to know. It's all the liberal loudmouth academics and amateurs who find out.
 
2013-02-15 10:47:53 PM
Anybody else like driving out into the country away from the big city lights during the annual Leonid showers and just stare up at the sky all night?

S'fun.
 
2013-02-15 10:48:16 PM

FarFarAway: I think it was the sun. It hit their sensors somehow that made their alarms go off and make them think an attack had been launched. It gave one false alarm, then another, then another and so on. I don't recall how many total. But the Soviet in charge thought it was weird, because the US wouldn't launch a handful of nukes in a strike like that, they would launch everything they had, so he held off on retaliating. IIRC, he held off in spite of being ordered to take action by his superiors but I could be wrong.


It was high altitude clouds being hit by the sun while the ground underneath was already past sunset.  The result showed up as hot spots to their satellite, like missile plumes--and it was above our missile fields.  Fortunately, he kept suppressing the warning.  Their equipment is junk, it doesn't have the discrimination to figure out the difference between stuff like this an a real missile.

occamswrist: What if you took the same nuke and gave it mach 100 and slowed down it going critical so energy would be released at the same rate as the meteor. Broken windows then?


You can't slow a nuke down.  The device gets very hot and the resulting pressure blows it apart.  You have to get what energy you can out of it before that happens.  Slowing the reaction doesn't make it take much longer, it just greatly reduces the energy output.  For an example of how low it can go there was an oops back in the early days where they put 4 batches of plutonium in a container and had a criticality accident.  There was a guy nearby who was knocked down by the blast but lived long enough to run out of the building (in other words, not seriously hurt other than due to the radiation.)

trappedspirit: I think it's funny that people think this and the Russian meteorite weren't being tracked by anyone. What did you want them to do? Panic a 2000 square mile area projected landing zone and then have more damage occur from riots and looting. And then have it turn out to blow completely in the asmosphere? But yeah. Keep thinking no one is tracking all of these objects if it will help you sleep at night not considering they are in their bunkers right now with trajectory maps on the big screen showing potential impact areas in YOUR county and purposly not sounding a single alarm because of these very same concerns.


I see no reason to think they would be tracked.  They're just too small.  When they are detected a warning is sent out--we wouldn't want to spook anyone into a war.
 
2013-02-15 10:49:14 PM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: czetie: Iron Sky

I just looked that up, I've seen Star Wreck and didn't know they made another.


I didn't know they made one before, so I'm equally indebted.

saturn badger: That was a pretty good movie. It had its moments.


I enjoyed it for what it was. The characterization wasn't exactly subtle or deep, but the story was fun.

/"Did anybody NOT arm their space station?"
 
2013-02-15 10:49:24 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: MaliFinn: Much more likely that as the asteroid approached the sun the heat caused it to crack and a piece fell off, travelling roughly with the same speed and direction as the main body, +/- the velocity caused by breaking apart from the main rock.  /repeatable

This happens to comets routinely. The separation velocity, however, is negligible compared to the orbital velocity. If two objects share the same orbit, or close to it, then perhaps something like this may have happened. If not, then no.


"Negligible" describes perfectly the distance between this NEO that passed only 17000 miles from Earth, and the distance it has traveled in its last elliptical.  The shard didn't have to break off yesterday, if could have been months, years ago.  It was too small to be detected, it could have been travelling with it for a long time.
 
2013-02-15 10:50:57 PM

Frehar: Russian bunkers are very comfortable these days.

[cdn.cstatic.net image 800x531]


===========

That looks like the Booty-Bunker.
 
2013-02-15 10:51:25 PM
There are some that believe that the Great Chicago Fire, the Great Forest Fire, and Huron, Michigan Fire, all occurring on the evening of October 8, 1871 killing over 3000 total from all three, were caused by meteor fragments. Fireballs were seen in the skies that night over the American Midwest.
 
2013-02-15 10:56:50 PM

Matthew Keene: There are some that believe that the Great Chicago Fire, the Great Forest Fire, and Huron, Michigan Fire, all occurring on the evening of October 8, 1871 killing over 3000 total from all three, were caused by meteor fragments. Fireballs were seen in the skies that night over the American Midwest.


I've heard that theory, it is possible.
 
2013-02-15 10:59:06 PM
You know who else looked into bunkers
 
2013-02-15 11:01:18 PM

MaliFinn: common sense is an oxymoron: MaliFinn: Much more likely that as the asteroid approached the sun the heat caused it to crack and a piece fell off, travelling roughly with the same speed and direction as the main body, +/- the velocity caused by breaking apart from the main rock.  /repeatable

This happens to comets routinely. The separation velocity, however, is negligible compared to the orbital velocity. If two objects share the same orbit, or close to it, then perhaps something like this may have happened. If not, then no.

"Negligible" describes perfectly the distance between this NEO that passed only 17000 miles from Earth, and the distance it has traveled in its last elliptical.  The shard didn't have to break off yesterday, if could have been months, years ago.  It was too small to be detected, it could have been travelling with it for a long time.



True, as long as the two objects share a common orbit, or something close to it. However, if one object is coming from the south and the other from a different direction, then they're not related.

NASA has some updated information:

--The Russian meteor is unrelated to 2012 DA14.
--It was bigger than first thought. Size is now estimated at 55 feet in diameter and 10,000 tons, with energy release of nearly 500 kilotons, making this a roughly once-in-100-years event.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130215.ht ml
 
2013-02-15 11:02:16 PM

badLogic: tenpoundsofcheese: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.


And Keith Richards


And Lemmy
and magic Johnson
 
2013-02-15 11:05:41 PM

sethen320: tenpoundsofcheese: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

Yes.
Everyone will die at some point.
Except maybe for Steven Hawkings and Phillip McSweeney.

What's up with not knowing how to spell Stephen Hawking properly? I've seen it a lot lately.


The "s" used to be there but it evaporated.
 
2013-02-15 11:07:31 PM

Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible, is my point dearie.


No, but usually in science we try to draft reasonable hypothesis based on observed behavior. Then we look for evidence supporting the hypothesis.

You can have a hypothesis that these events are linked by commonality in timeline and a shared relative destination (well, waypoint for DA14), but then you're stuck with coming up with supporting evidence of which I've seen none. Observed behavior isn't evidence as to the cause of that behavior and coincidence doesn't equivocate to evidence.

Those who would suggest these issues are separate do have some evidence to support it.
-DA14 isn't part of a comet stream of debris,
-there were no detected significant accompanying debris to DA14,
-all data points to the two objects' trajectories being completely different...

So wrap your mind around this for a moment:

To suggest two objects traveling through space at different trajectories are somehow linked in origin would be an event of such astronomical unlikeliness (aware of the pun) because the scenario requires that they would have been separated and then somehow re-converged on nearly the same point in space within 14 hours of each other, using different orbital paths, each traveling at a rate of speed a full magnitude above what we consider hypersonic. And that they re-converged at/near a third object (earth) also traveling along it's own completely separate orbital path at it's own incredible speed.

tldr: Given separate trajectories, mathematically it's infinitely more likely we observed a two unrelated events (a coincidence) than one impossible convergence.

One in a million? Happens, believable. That's what we saw.
Without evidence to back it up however, suggesting they were linked in origin is one in a million million millions.

Possible? Sure. Equally as possible as a rogue planet striking us at the same time a gamma ray burst from another galaxy toasts us. Unless new evidence that completely contradicts what we currently know is presented, it's impossible. Or as impossible as anything can be in this universe.
 
2013-02-15 11:08:57 PM

Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open.

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!


You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.
 
2013-02-15 11:12:36 PM

Lsherm: You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.


For sure.  Nobody's ever built a bomb shelter before.
 
2013-02-15 11:12:50 PM

MurphyMurphy: Gyrfalcon: It's not impossible, is my point dearie.

No, but usually in science we try to draft reasonable hypothesis based on observed behavior. Then we look for evidence supporting the hypothesis.

You can have a hypothesis that these events are linked by commonality in timeline and a shared relative destination (well, waypoint for DA14), but then you're stuck with coming up with supporting evidence of which I've seen none. Observed behavior isn't evidence as to the cause of that behavior and coincidence doesn't equivocate to evidence.

Those who would suggest these issues are separate do have some evidence to support it.
-DA14 isn't part of a comet stream of debris,
-there were no detected significant accompanying debris to DA14,
-all data points to the two objects' trajectories being completely different...

So wrap your mind around this for a moment:

To suggest two objects traveling through space at different trajectories are somehow linked in origin would be an event of such astronomical unlikeliness (aware of the pun) because the scenario requires that they would have been separated and then somehow re-converged on nearly the same point in space within 14 hours of each other, using different orbital paths, each traveling at a rate of speed a full magnitude above what we consider hypersonic. And that they re-converged at/near a third object (earth) also traveling along it's own completely separate orbital path at it's own incredible speed.

tldr: Given separate trajectories, mathematically it's infinitely more likely we observed a two unrelated events (a coincidence) than one impossible convergence.

One in a million? Happens, believable. That's what we saw.
Without evidence to back it up however, suggesting they were linked in origin is one in a million million millions.

Possible? Sure. Equally as possible as a rogue planet striking us at the same time a gamma ray burst from another galaxy toasts us. Unless new evidence that completely contradicts what we c ...


=============

In other words, it's just like the Powerball?    OK, I'll bet a dollar.
 
2013-02-15 11:14:26 PM

jfarkinB: Gilligann: Residents described the object as being comparable in size to a bus

How the hell can anyone tell what the size of a falling, and then exploding meteor is?


This. Humans have no skill at estimating the size of an unfamiliar, brilliantly glowing object in the sky.

I think that description -- in fact, the whole report -- is mainly because they read about the Russian event, and decided they wanted some media attention as well.


Yep, that's what tipped me off that people were just making shiat up.  Unless, throughout the skies of Cuba, there are tethered floating buses (or some other handy items of measurement) as visual points of reference for estimating size and distance of airborne objects that pass near them.
 
2013-02-15 11:15:08 PM
Now everybody in that part of Russia is freezing their asses off because all their windows are broken. farking asteroids.
 
2013-02-15 11:18:28 PM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


I am the bad wolf.  I create myself.  I take the words. I scatter them. In time and space.  A message to lead myself here.

You are tiny.  I can see the whole of time and space.  Every single atom of your existence; and I divide them.

Everything must come to dust.  All things, everything dies.  The time will end.
 
2013-02-15 11:19:20 PM
s12.postimage.org
 
2013-02-15 11:21:59 PM

SpaceBison: This sort of stuff happens all the time. Only nowadays we have the internet and 24 hour cable news to help blow everything out of proportion.

Boom's Source A Mystery
Holt County Independent (Nebraska), August 19, 1999


A meteoroid, a sonic boom from a jet traveling across north central Nebraska to the Lincoln area, or...? Officials from across the state are trying to determine the source of a large boom about noon Friday. In O'Neill, the boom was actually two large booms that sounded somewhat like an artillery battery being fired. Some people said they thought a piece of nearby machinery had exploded or that a vehicle had crashed. In some areas the boom was accompanied by ground shaking and even a few broken windows.


I was living in Lincoln when that happened. It rattled the house. Was pretty damn cool, tbh.
 
2013-02-15 11:24:43 PM

Mentat: If this is an alien attack, they're doing a piss-poor job of it.


Yeah, we deserve better than third-rate aliens.
 
2013-02-15 11:25:30 PM

occamswrist: Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.

I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...


Do we still get to use the Hyperspace Key?
 
2013-02-15 11:26:20 PM

MaliFinn: Lsherm: You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.

For sure.  Nobody's ever built a bomb shelter before.


Most of the old shelters died from water. Either they flooded directly, or they were just moist and seepy since they were underground.  Metal corroded and concrete cracked. Most got filled in. So it would be interesting to see how one survived.
 
2013-02-15 11:27:53 PM
The shock wave was impressive.
 
2013-02-15 11:41:19 PM
Russia should perhaps rename February to meteoruary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhote-Alin_meteorite
 
2013-02-15 11:44:44 PM

KarmicDisaster: MaliFinn: Lsherm: You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.

For sure.  Nobody's ever built a bomb shelter before.

Most of the old shelters died from water. Either they flooded directly, or they were just moist and seepy since they were underground.  Metal corroded and concrete cracked. Most got filled in. So it would be interesting to see how one survived.


I think you're just being difficult because you want to see pics of a creepy old cold war bomb shelter.

Me too.
 
2013-02-15 11:57:34 PM

MaliFinn: Lsherm: You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.

For sure.  Nobody's ever built a bomb shelter before.


You got a better way to get the pictures?
 
2013-02-15 11:59:04 PM

patchvonbraun: Russia should perhaps rename February to meteoruary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhote-Alin_meteorite



It's not just Russia. There does appear to be an increased number of bright meteors in February compared to the rest of the year.

NASA is expanding their All-Sky Fireball Network, which will lead to better information about the orbits of these objects and tell us whether this is a real phenomenon or just a statistical fluke.

http://www.space.com/19814-russia-meteor-explosion-fireball-season.h tm l
 
2013-02-16 12:03:28 AM
 
2013-02-16 12:11:03 AM
I blame ONTV.
 
2013-02-16 12:15:26 AM

mizchief: 3 similar events in an arbitrarily defined short amount of time! Ban objects from moving close to the earth! Ban astronomy for the Children!


How about 4?  9news Denver says there was another over San Francisco on their 10pm newscast.
 
2013-02-16 12:15:34 AM

common sense is an oxymoron: patchvonbraun: Russia should perhaps rename February to meteoruary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhote-Alin_meteorite


It's not just Russia. There does appear to be an increased number of bright meteors in February compared to the rest of the year.

NASA is expanding their All-Sky Fireball Network, which will lead to better information about the orbits of these objects and tell us whether this is a real phenomenon or just a statistical fluke.

http://www.space.com/19814-russia-meteor-explosion-fireball-season.h tm l


I hadn't heard about that before. I'm suspicious because last I checked most our regular meteor activity involves known fields left by comets and we cross them in summer, fall... shiat there is probably a major or minor one in almost every month of the year except February. (I always thought August was the prime month for activity.)

They say "the phenomenon appears real" but then cite multiple times in the year... I don't see any stats related specifically to February, not to say it doesn't look legit. Apparently it's common knowledge since the 60's?

if true and unrelated to known comet trail remains it would suggest that some other body in our solar system is influencing orbits in a way that both draws objects into groups or waves and drives their paths towards the inner system. (Like maybe Jupiter or Saturn.)

But as they say in the article, we'd need a buttload more technology and research to get data regarding all those thousand and thousands of orbits before we could put anything together.
 
2013-02-16 12:19:16 AM
you know what causes that

Spin the wheel johnny!!

George Bush......Global Warming.....Fracking......

we have a winner
 
2013-02-16 12:19:58 AM

MurphyMurphy: if true and unrelated to known comet trail remains it would suggest that some other body in our solar system is influencing orbits in a way that both draws objects into groups or waves and drives their paths towards the inner system. (Like maybe Jupiter or Saturn.)


I should add would be completely pants on head backwards to the understood behavior of these planets. Most credit Jupiter for being a gravitational vacuum for rogue objects and credit it with part of the reason life was able to develop here.

So, probably some other phenomenon... but still very interesting. I would like to know more.
 
2013-02-16 12:23:12 AM

Old Man Winter: sethen320:

What's up with not knowing how to spell Stephen Hawking properly? I've seen it a lot lately.

The "s" used to be there but it evaporated atrophied.


FTFY
 
2013-02-16 12:30:34 AM

MurphyMurphy: MurphyMurphy: if true and unrelated to known comet trail remains it would suggest that some other body in our solar system is influencing orbits in a way that both draws objects into groups or waves and drives their paths towards the inner system. (Like maybe Jupiter or Saturn.)

I should add would be completely pants on head backwards to the understood behavior of these planets. Most credit Jupiter for being a gravitational vacuum for rogue objects and credit it with part of the reason life was able to develop here.

So, probably some other phenomenon... but still very interesting. I would like to know more.



So would I. Fortunately, ground-based camera arrays like ASFN and ATLAS are quick to build and dirt-cheap (pun intended) compared to space-based telescopes (which we still need to search for anything coming at us from the direction of the sun).
 
2013-02-16 12:35:41 AM
This is a shot across the bow. Do you believe yet? There's your proof. The Lord loves us but only has so much patience. We need to get right with Him and quickly. We need to round up all those who haven't accepted Jesus Christ and run them out of our country before we suffer God's wrath. It's coming.
 
2013-02-16 12:49:13 AM

ISO15693: beautifulbob: Thank God this didn't happen 30 years ago.  No way the nukes would have stayed on the launching pads.

Seriously....or 50 years ago. Imagine 1962, Kennedy & Kruschev are tense over the cuban missle crisis ...space rocks that only target communist nations suddenly fall from the sky ...

Wait, was this a movie?.



Science fiction author H. Beam Piper was maybe the first person to suggest that a meteorite could set off a nuclear war.
 
2013-02-16 12:52:02 AM

Lsherm: Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open.

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!

You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.



Any idea how the door was supposed to opened?
 
2013-02-16 12:55:54 AM

patchvonbraun: Russia should perhaps rename February to meteoruary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhote-Alin_meteorite


What do meteors have against the Russians?  Sheesh.
 
2013-02-16 01:02:32 AM

ski9600: mizchief: 3 similar events in an arbitrarily defined short amount of time! Ban objects from moving close to the earth! Ban astronomy for the Children!

How about 4?  9news Denver says there was another over San Francisco on their 10pm newscast.


I looked at the video of that "event".  Nighttime "fireballs" like that are pretty common.  I think this is a case of the huminz getting panicky.

I moved out to the countryside about 17 years ago.  In that time, I've witnessed *many* nighttime meteors. Many of those, I would describe as "fireballs" of the type that show up in that SF video.

So, meh.
 
2013-02-16 01:09:18 AM

I Love Happy Stuff: tenpoundsofcheese: Obviously due to global warming.

CNN is making the connection.

How? How are these idiots keeping their jobs?


It's hip to be stupid these days...
 
2013-02-16 01:25:03 AM

Oldiron_79: You're just looking into a bunker subby? The best houses have had one sice the cold war. Mine has enough booze, porn, cheetos, and twinkees to last me till Dr Zaius and his goons find me.


YOU HAVE TWINKIES?!??!?
 
2013-02-16 01:29:04 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: Obviously due to global warming.

CNN is making the connection.


Absolutely true. Hot things expand. AGW is making the Earth expand, and it is therefore a bigger target.
 
2013-02-16 01:37:35 AM

Mobutu: patchvonbraun: Russia should perhaps rename February to meteoruary:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikhote-Alin_meteorite

What do meteors have against the Russians?  Sheesh.


They think it's too cold and they're trying to warm people up?
 
2013-02-16 01:46:03 AM

Fissile: Let's say that the earth has now entered a belt of very large meteors and it's very likely that thousands, if not millions, of people will be killed.  If you were running the government, would you issue any warnings?


I would, but panic is fun to watch.
 
2013-02-16 01:51:09 AM

czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.


I really wanted to see that, but couldn't afford the gas (closest showing was up in the SF Valley). Did you buy a copy? Is it available on the Internet?
 
2013-02-16 01:51:10 AM

MaliFinn: common sense is an oxymoron: MaliFinn: Much more likely that as the asteroid approached the sun the heat caused it to crack and a piece fell off, travelling roughly with the same speed and direction as the main body, +/- the velocity caused by breaking apart from the main rock.  /repeatable

This happens to comets routinely. The separation velocity, however, is negligible compared to the orbital velocity. If two objects share the same orbit, or close to it, then perhaps something like this may have happened. If not, then no.

"Negligible" describes perfectly the distance between this NEO that passed only 17000 miles from Earth, and the distance it has traveled in its last elliptical.  The shard didn't have to break off yesterday, if could have been months, years ago.  It was too small to be detected, it could have been travelling with it for a long time.


Except they were travelling in almost opposite directions...
 
2013-02-16 01:51:40 AM

maxheck: ko_kyi:

My dad saw and heard a pretty big meteor distintigration in a remote area of western south dakota in the 70s while working for the railroad. This isn't actually that unusual.

I didn't hear it, but I remember when I was a kid getting out of the car one winter's night and seeing an intensely green fireball travel from zenith to the west-south-west horizon. It had to be very high up, because I had enough time to say "Oh shiat!" and my sister had time to turn and see it.

And I'm always going to associate that color with "The Color Out of Space."


I'be seen two shooting stars and they were both green, too. Once I saw a tornado and it made the sky green.
 
2013-02-16 01:55:02 AM

davidphogan: BarkingUnicorn: davidphogan: Are we all going to die?

No, I'm going to wake up and you're going to disappear.

Wake Up and Disappear was a great album.

/obscure
//seriously, that's probably obscure even for Fark


Woot obscuritiy.

I am disappoint, Fark.
 
2013-02-16 02:07:41 AM
media.screened.com
 
2013-02-16 02:55:01 AM

Popcorn Johnny: [media.screened.com image 850x510]


well played
 
2013-02-16 03:35:01 AM

Scruffinator: spidermilk: On the news this morning Neil DeGrasse Tyson said that something like this did happen like something-ish years ago and at first WAS interpreted as a nuke until they could prove that it was an asteroid and that is what prevented nuclear war.

Uh does anyone know what exactly he said because I clearly wasn't awake while I watched.

I remember watching a space program on netflix that commented on it.  I'm kinda drunk, but what I remember is the Russians detected a nuclear radiation source from space that could have been the US launching an attack.  They kept their finger off the button long enough to figure out what it actually was(that I can't remember, but something natural from dying stars, maybe?).  At any rate, they figured out that the source came from deep space, too far away to have been sourced by humans.  I'm sure somebody else has the good details lying around.


You're looking for gamma ray bursts, I believe. And it was the USAF who discovered them after putting up satellites to look for nuclear weapons tests after a test ban treaty.

http://apod.nasa.gov/htmltest/jbonnell/www/grbhist.html (pops)
 
2013-02-16 04:18:03 AM
For those crying about the lack of video of the Cuban event, I present the following technological facts of life.


Cuban i-Phone....
cache.wists.com

Cuban i-Pad

www.lrgaf.org

Cuban i-Pod

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

Cuban dash cam

4.bp.blogspot.com

Car in which to mount your dash cam

farm3.static.flickr.com

Thread may now resume it's regular posts.
 
2013-02-16 06:17:17 AM
Meteorites falling from space with a president trying to take our guns... I'm bunking at with The Nuge. Let the, Zombie Apocalypse begin!!!
 
2013-02-16 06:48:41 AM
i like how everyone acts like they are so sure they know what the f it is.    we are all knowing.  no one knows shiat.   and if you pretend you do you are worse off.   and if you are actually judging people on what they say it is,   what the hell for???  we just had a hurriccaine the likes of one NY HAS NEVER, EVER seen before.    this world is changing.   if flaming balls of hydrochloric acid started falling out of the sky for no apparent reason,   we really shouldnt be surprised at this farking point,  with the way the weather has been going.    get over yourselves humanity,    you DONT KNOW EVERYTHING.
 
2013-02-16 07:02:02 AM

Coelacanth: Lsherm: Brett.M: A few years ago my wife and I buy a Lake house in NW NJ for our son (We live near Manhattan and he needed some room to run).  Small house, whole history behind the area, whatever.  During the home inspection we're checking the basement, huge metal door in a lowered area by the sump pump.  It's completely unmovable and the inspector says it was most likely put there  for support and is cemented in.  Ok whatever.

Two years later an old couple is walking by.  We pass greeting from the deck and the walk up to say hello.

"Do you still have the bomb shelter?"

"What????"

So the two of them come down to the basement and insist that many owners ago there was a full fledged Bomb Shelter installed!!! So I call in a few guys to bust up the cement and get  that door open.

Took half a day and they call me down to take a look.  The door (maybe 3 inches thick) opens...... to a completely clean room, stocked shelves, cots, batteries, water, short wave radio.  No kidding like the Lost Dharma thing.  Room for 5-6 families, shocking.

We talked to the local historical folks and we're working on donating a bunch of the stuff before we figure out what to do with the space.  It's 700 sq feet extending out from the house, Shocking!

You tell a story like that without pictures?  I call bullshiat.


Any idea how the door was supposed to opened?


1) Yes bad writing, I was posting from my phone (Hence the double post)
2) The assumption is that the basement was dirt.  Most are up here in the older houses, our neighbor who has had the house for 40+ years has a tree stump in theirs.  But due to building codes you can't sell a house with a dirt basement anymore.  This house had 3 owners between us and the builder of the Hole as we refer to it and one of them must have just had cement poured in and sealed the door.
3) Pics, yea, sucks.  We have no idea of the value of any of this stuff, or for that matter the house now that we found the Hole.  So we're not posting or emailing pics.  Don't want some old fart showing up yelling that it's his gas mask down there (There is no gas mask).  We found it in late September and are still figuring out what to do with it all.
 
2013-02-16 07:17:22 AM

CowboyUpCowgirlDown: occamswrist: Sgeo: jehovahs witness protection: We may be in for a big surprise soon.

Admittedly, it's possible that we're missing stuff, and that is scary, but it's not any more likely to happen now than it was a year ago.

I get the feeling asteroids come in clusters...no data to back it up...

Do we still get to use the Hyperspace Key?


Just watched that movie last night.
 
2013-02-16 07:46:14 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.

I really wanted to see that, but couldn't afford the gas (closest showing was up in the SF Valley). Did you buy a copy? Is it available on the Internet?


I caught it on Netflix.
 
2013-02-16 08:08:49 AM

ransack.: Oldiron_79: You're just looking into a bunker subby? The best houses have had one sice the cold war. Mine has enough booze, porn, cheetos, and twinkees to last me till Dr Zaius and his goons find me.

YOU HAVE TWINKIES?!??!?


Yup but woody harrelson cant have any.
 
2013-02-16 08:22:51 AM

davidphogan: Are we all going to die?


Usually...
 
2013-02-16 08:38:37 AM

crackwhore: DONT KNOW EVERYTHING.


We know enough to properly use punctuation and not to use more than one space between commas or sentences.
 
2013-02-16 09:25:16 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: Andromeda: Listen guys, tens of thousands of meteorites that are >10 grams hit the Earth every day.

Everyone here is making jokes about it, so it's not clear who you are lecturing with such parental concern.   But meteorites creating 300kt explosions, and passes within 17k miles are not everyday events. These were a bit more than 10 grams.  :-) BTW - most professional astronomers quoted in the media are calling this a very interesting and amazing series of events.


Simmer down there, buddy.

Andromeda wrote the cover story for the March 2013 issue of Astronomy magazine. She's for real.

Obviously, yesterday's dual events were extraordinary. We will "probably" never see anything of that magnitude (no pun intended) again in our lives.

=]
 
2013-02-16 09:31:20 AM

Gilligann: Residents described the object as being comparable in size to a bus

How the hell can anyone tell what the size of a falling, and then exploding meteor is?


Physics.
 
2013-02-16 09:41:59 AM

czetie: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.

I really wanted to see that, but couldn't afford the gas (closest showing was up in the SF Valley). Did you buy a copy? Is it available on the Internet?

I caught it on Netflix.


Thanks.
 
2013-02-16 10:26:43 AM

ransack.: Oldiron_79: You're just looking into a bunker subby? The best houses have had one sice the cold war. Mine has enough booze, porn, cheetos, and twinkees to last me till Dr Zaius and his goons find me.

YOU HAVE TWINKIES?!??!?


They are used in bunkers because the storage life is unlimited.
 
2013-02-16 11:02:11 AM

KarmicDisaster: ransack.: Oldiron_79: You're just looking into a bunker subby? The best houses have had one sice the cold war. Mine has enough booze, porn, cheetos, and twinkees to last me till Dr Zaius and his goons find me.

YOU HAVE TWINKIES?!??!?

They are used in bunkers because the storage life is unlimited.


That is an urban legend, it's on Snopes giy.
 
2013-02-16 11:06:00 AM
 
2013-02-16 12:00:44 PM

Brett.M: Coelacanth: Lsherm: Brett.M:
2) The assumption is that the basement was dirt.  Most are up here in the older houses, our neighbor who has had the house for 40+ years has a tree stump in theirs.  But due to building codes you can't sell a house with a dirt basement anymore.  This house had 3 owners between us and the builder of the Hole as we refer to it and one of them must have just had cement poured in and sealed the door.
3) Pics, yea, sucks.  We have no idea of the value of any of this stuff, or for that matter the house now that we found the Hole.  So we're not posting ...


Where I live, I believe dirt basements must be grandfathered in depending on the age of the property, because I definitely looked at two houses that had them (and practically ran screaming from both once I found out; fear of bodies etc etc). I'm sure YMMV though.

Value will probably vary but I'd imagine if you wanted to you could sell most of it on ebay for a tidy profit, provided you take pics of the original setup before you move any of it. That could help you show authenticity. Although you say there's no gas mask, check with a lawyer about other questionable items - certain gas masks, at least, are illegal to own (just for example). There might be other things in there too. I say lawyer instead of police because you're far less likely to get things confiscated if they're not sure.

Personally I'd love to see pics but its understandable you wouldn't want to spread that around the interwebs. I love old rediscovered stuff like that.
 
2013-02-18 12:51:54 AM

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.

I really wanted to see that, but couldn't afford the gas (closest showing was up in the SF Valley). Did you buy a copy? Is it available on the Internet?


iTunes has it. HD if you want it. Probably rent it if you don't want to buy it.
 
2013-02-18 08:17:22 AM

saturn badger: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: czetie: I finally got around to watching Iron Sky, so I'm getting a kick etc.

I really wanted to see that, but couldn't afford the gas (closest showing was up in the SF Valley). Did you buy a copy? Is it available on the Internet?

iTunes has it. HD if you want it. Probably rent it if you don't want to buy it.


Thanks
 
2013-02-18 11:52:27 PM

Brett.M: 1) Yes bad writing, I was posting from my phone (Hence the double post)
2) The assumption is that the basement was dirt. Most are up here in the older houses, our neighbor who has had the house for 40+ years has a tree stump in theirs. But due to building codes you can't sell a house with a dirt basement anymore. This house had 3 owners between us and the builder of the Hole as we refer to it and one of them must have just had cement poured in and sealed the door.
3) Pics, yea, sucks. We have no idea of the value of any of this stuff, or for that matter the house now that we found the Hole. So we're not posting or emailing pics. Don't want some old fart showing up yelling that it's his gas mask down there (There is no gas mask). We found it in late September and are still figuring out what to do with it all.


You double check to see if maybe there's more down there than just the Hole? One of the best shelters I  ever saw was based on an Egyptian tomb that had a fake burial chamber to lure thieves away from the real burial chamber.
 
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