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(Politicker)   They're not banning everything just yet. They still need to ban banning things   (politicker.com) divider line 69
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2013-02-15 05:10:56 PM  
I'm going to steal their ban hammer when they ban it. And I'm going to use my Nerf bat to steal it. That'll show 'em!
 
2013-02-15 06:35:15 PM  
How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.
 
2013-02-15 06:39:55 PM  
Bloomberg is the real life Hypnotoad apparently.
 
2013-02-15 06:40:44 PM  
Things are the worst.
 
2013-02-15 06:41:45 PM  
I'm for government being proactive. If polystyrene is bad for the environment, I don't see why it should wind up in landfills to stay there forever.
 
2013-02-15 06:42:41 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.


I've asked this question many times on Fark and nobody seems to know the answer.

It's like... if Mussolini hadn't gotten killed / mixed up with Hitler and all that, and then the Italians just keep re-electing him until he dies of old age.

What would Bloomberg have to ban or regulate to actually get New Yorkers to say "uh, hey, wait a minute" ?
 
2013-02-15 06:46:21 PM  
BAN ALL THE THINGS!
 
2013-02-15 06:46:46 PM  
Not everything. Just things he doesn't like.
 
2013-02-15 06:48:09 PM  
I wasn't aware that being mayor of NYC was such an easy job as to leave plenty of time to micromanage the behavior of 8,244,910 people.
 
2013-02-15 06:48:43 PM  
img12.imageshack.us

I never liked the stuff anyway
 
2013-02-15 06:50:30 PM  
Wait, we're defending styrofoam now?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-15 06:51:10 PM  
Bloomberg runs up record debt
It is pretty obvious why he keep pushing these bullshiat bans, distract the proles from the real issues.
 
2013-02-15 06:54:25 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.


Well, the dead/brain dead are a known constituency of the Democratic Party.


/ I keed, I keed
 
2013-02-15 06:54:42 PM  

jenlen: What would Bloomberg have to ban or regulate to actually get New Yorkers to say "uh, hey, wait a minute" ?


Flipping people off.
 
2013-02-15 06:55:13 PM  
i saw morans on TV upset that teh mayor wants to bans styrofoam cups. was amazed at their stupid. to see it here on FARK just breaks my heart. i remember HS kids picketing fast food joints in NJ what 20 years ago? that's why it's cardboard and paper wraps these days. THIS IS A GOOD THING. WTF is wrong with you people?
 
2013-02-15 06:57:37 PM  

jenlen: jehovahs witness protection: How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.

I've asked this question many times on Fark and nobody seems to know the answer.

It's like... if Mussolini hadn't gotten killed / mixed up with Hitler and all that, and then the Italians just keep re-electing him until he dies of old age.

What would Bloomberg have to ban or regulate to actually get New Yorkers to say "uh, hey, wait a minute" ?




Some of us simply left.
 
2013-02-15 06:58:06 PM  
Bloomberg is an idiot.
 
2013-02-15 07:02:43 PM  
Next ban scissors. You can put your eye out.
 
2013-02-15 07:03:11 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.


And they manage to pretend to look down on everyone else in the country.

/when in reality New York really sucks
 
2013-02-15 07:05:11 PM  
They banned Styrofoam, the trademarked extruded polystyrene product made by the Dow Chemical Company? Were they actually so stupid as to ban the specific brand? I imagine Dow probably has the money to fight that.
 
2013-02-15 07:05:29 PM  

Trocadero: Wait, we're defending styrofoam now?

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 751x569]


Yes. Because freedom and such like.
 
2013-02-15 07:09:06 PM  

jenlen: What would Bloomberg have to ban or regulate to actually get New Yorkers to say "uh, hey, wait a minute" ?


Rudeness.
 
2013-02-15 07:11:39 PM  
I'm guessing this must be a response to all the people wanting to buy 32oz of soda, and buying twice as many 16-oz styrofoam cups to carry it in thanks to the first ban.
 
2013-02-15 07:16:36 PM  
i224.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-15 07:21:39 PM  

NullReferenceException: They banned Styrofoam, the trademarked extruded polystyrene product made by the Dow Chemical Company? Were they actually so stupid as to ban the specific brand? I imagine Dow probably has the money to fight that.


Many manufacturers have now moved away from using "styrofoam" (expanded polystyrene) already. Good riddance.

For instance, the Xbox we just got was packaged in some very ingeniously-folded corrugated box-board.
It just goes into the recycling with the other cardboard, no problem.

Expanded polystyrene "flow-pak" (aka plastic peanuts) can't be beat for custom or packaging low-volume product but it can be used over and over again, so it should not wind up in the trash or recycling.

Now, if the manufacturers would just do away with those farkin' "blister paks or "clam shell" packaging that lacerate your fingers and fill up the garbage...
 
2013-02-15 07:25:42 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: For instance, the Xbox we just got was packaged in some very ingeniously-folded corrugated box-board.
It just goes into the recycling with the other cardboard, no problem.


Cool, now you don't have to worry about the environmental effects of styrofoam while you're running your energy hog non-necessity entertainment machine.
 
2013-02-15 07:29:19 PM  
Bloomberg is against legalizing marijuana because then all the marijuana dealers will start selling coke and heroin.

He actually said that.
 
2013-02-15 07:29:33 PM  
Keep on rockin' in the free world...


/for the ozone layer
 
2013-02-15 07:30:31 PM  

NullReferenceException: They banned Styrofoam, the trademarked extruded polystyrene product made by the Dow Chemical Company? Were they actually so stupid as to ban the specific brand? I imagine Dow probably has the money to fight that.


If they did they are even dumber that you think.  real Styrofoam isn't even used for food containers.  It's only actually used as building insulation, not food containers at all
 
2013-02-15 07:30:38 PM  
First person to misuse that Niemöller quote gets 50 cockpunches.
 
2013-02-15 07:32:34 PM  
Thanks Obama!

/can they ban him?
 
2013-02-15 07:32:42 PM  
www.aerojockey.com
 
2013-02-15 07:35:58 PM  
Of course polystyrene degrades, it also can be recycled.  I realize that's not important since there are better alternatives, but we can still be truthful about it, can't we?
 
2013-02-15 07:43:10 PM  

BradleyUffner: NullReferenceException: They banned Styrofoam, the trademarked extruded polystyrene product made by the Dow Chemical Company? Were they actually so stupid as to ban the specific brand? I imagine Dow probably has the money to fight that.

If they did they are even dumber that you think.  real Styrofoam isn't even used for food containers.  It's only actually used as building insulation, not food containers at all


look at it this way, Bloomberg helped ram through the New York AFE act, which didn't exempt police officers from that law. Bloomberg and Cuomo are out of touch politicians, what do you expect?
 
2013-02-15 07:54:33 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.


I think it's astounding how you are always full of shiat.  How do you manage it?
 
2013-02-15 07:56:54 PM  

TofuTheAlmighty: First person to misuse that Niemöller quote gets 50 cockpunches.


First they came fo the large sodas
I said nothing because starbucks

Then they came for the styrofoam
I saod nothing because starbucks

I counted to potato(e)
Feces flinging monkeys lead us now
starbucks
 
2013-02-15 08:06:36 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: Now, if the manufacturers would just do away with those farkin' "blister paks or "clam shell" packaging that lacerate your fingers and fill up the garbage...


This. My phone came in one of those damn things. It took me almost 20 minutes to get it open and I had to use a pair of heavy-duty pinking shears.
 
2013-02-15 08:07:57 PM  

Millennium: Not everything. Just things he doesn't like.




There seems to be... There are a lot of things "he doesn't like".
Wouldn't it just be easier to have a list of things Bloomberg approves of?

/like flan. Everyone loves some flan.
/so if you're eating flan, good news! You won't be arrested.
 
2013-02-15 08:14:39 PM  
I looked up and watched a video about recycling Styrofoam. Apparently, only the clean stuff is recycled, meaning the stuff you ate off of is tossed.

It's shredded, then pressed into blocks and the resold to companies which use the stuff to make more commercial packing.

There was a company years ago which developed a liquid that dissolved the polystyrene into a greenish goo. It was supposed to be a way to keep it out of landfills and recycle it, but I've not heard about it being used since.

Now, one way to get rid of it is to mix it into potting soil, basically fluffing the stuff up, then claiming the 'lighter' soil is good for your plants and sell bags of it to home owners. Of course, companies save money on the soil by using less, but you either don't drop the price or you raise it, either way, more profit. Plus you're doing a good thing: recycling Styrofoam. (Actually, just spreading it around more.)

Now comes the part where you need to think. Remove the stuff from circulation and ban it. You'll need to replace it. The most logical is with wood based paper products. We can do a lot of things with paper these days. Next to aluminum, paper is one of the greatest recycled items in volume and usability.

So, when the demand rises, along with the cost of pulp, we're going to hack down even more trees for paper products. (Those old growth trees dredged up from lake bottoms, where they've steeped for 75 to 100 or more years, are worth thousands of dollars. They're often sliced thin and sold as veneers -- at roughly $800 a sheet depending on the type of wood.)

So, will this improve the chances to go back to growing hemp, AKA Pot or a version of it, which is highly versatile, grows quickly, can easily replace wood pulp paper more cheaply and with better quality? That opens up a whole new bag of political worms.

We make boards out of sawdust. Could we make the same from hemp?

It's also about 100% recyclable. Kind of like corn. We use EVERYTHING from a corn stalk and it was still cheap to grow -- until Ethanol Fuel makers decided it needed to be used for gas. Then the cost soared.

So, we have several possible replacements for Styrofoam: wood pulp, paper and hemp. You can even toss in corn, especially the unneeded stalks.

Now, this will require more land to grow the stuff. Developers have known for years they can buy farm land cheaply, avoid certain taxes, build on it and pass the taxes on to the buyers. So, farm land is in demand by developers. Also by mega-corporations who are wiping out the small, independent farmer, whose pesky efforts keep food prices from being manipulated too much.

Creating polystyrene requires much less land. Plus, some of its compounds come from oil based chemicals, which benefits the oil industry. Remember, our major financial institutions are heavily invested in oil, so it's not to their benefit to promote things than can drop the price a bit.

This stuff doesn't go away and we produce it by the millions of tons. You can't incinerate it without producing toxic gasses. We have whole industries which have grown dependent on it's insulating qualities and cheapness. It's even been used as an additive in cement -- to create a lighter, better insulated version.

Currently, in various ways, we pay quite a bit to dispose of the stuff. You can find chunks of it all over the globe, in places where humans haven't set foot in generations. It might be cheap to use in fast food and the packing industries, but it's grown very costly for us to contend with the waste.

Personally, I figure hemp is the best bet as a replacement. Besides, one Robber Barron, decades back, had it banned when it threatened to cut into his paper making empire and politicians tend to stay bought.

BTW. I was a kid when the stuff first appeared and I recall real paper cups, paper egg cartons and treated paper (waxed) milk cartons.

Some years back, I spotted paper commercial moving pallets, developed because the old wooden ones were starting to rise in price.

So, we did without Styrofoam ages ago and we can do without it now.

Besides, I once worked in a stock room and opening up cases full of those Styrofoam peanuts just created a heck of a mess we had to clean up later and blew all over the parking lot. From the lot, the Styrofoam went into the storm sewers, then right out into the local river. From there, they eventually drifted out to sea.

As far as I know, they're still out there, decades later.
 
2013-02-15 08:17:54 PM  
In theory, they could ban everything. I mean everything. It would be, according to all relevant supreme court decisions, perfectly constitutional to ban the manufacture, sale or possession of any and all physical objects.
 
2013-02-15 08:22:51 PM  
   Thats it!   Im starting a coalition to ban coalitions...
 
2013-02-15 08:27:19 PM  

studs up: First they came fo the large sodas
I said nothing because starbucks

Then they came for the styrofoam
I saod nothing because starbucks

I counted to potato(e)
Feces flinging monkeys lead us now
starbucks


209.160.24.85

That's it!
 
2013-02-15 08:35:50 PM  

mizchief: KrispyKritter: i saw morans on TV upset that teh mayor wants to bans styrofoam cups. was amazed at their stupid. to see it here on FARK just breaks my heart. i remember HS kids picketing fast food joints in NJ what 20 years ago? that's why it's cardboard and paper wraps these days. THIS IS A GOOD THING. WTF is wrong with you people?

We live in a free country you shiat head. If you don't want people to use Styrofoam then don't buy products that come packaged in them. If you want others to stop using it, then try to convince them not to using facts and reason. If people believe that the benefits out weigh the consequences then so be it.

If Bloomberg wants to be a mini-dictator that's fine with me, i'll simply choose not to live in or spend my tourist dollars in his kingdom. If enough people agree with me, he'll get elected out of office, if not then so be it.


oh Goober surely you can do better than that. you're a redneck Georgia arsehole that never leaves the county; what take places in NYC affects you not. but I give you +1 points for being so ignorant (or is it stupid?) that you can't realize mankind has a responsibility to our own selves to take steps to keep the very planet we depend on for life free from destructive pollutions. you're as dumb as they cum. please don't reproduce.
 
2013-02-15 08:37:13 PM  

KrispyKritter: mizchief: KrispyKritter: i saw morans on TV upset that teh mayor wants to bans styrofoam cups. was amazed at their stupid. to see it here on FARK just breaks my heart. i remember HS kids picketing fast food joints in NJ what 20 years ago? that's why it's cardboard and paper wraps these days. THIS IS A GOOD THING. WTF is wrong with you people?

We live in a free country you shiat head. If you don't want people to use Styrofoam then don't buy products that come packaged in them. If you want others to stop using it, then try to convince them not to using facts and reason. If people believe that the benefits out weigh the consequences then so be it.

If Bloomberg wants to be a mini-dictator that's fine with me, i'll simply choose not to live in or spend my tourist dollars in his kingdom. If enough people agree with me, he'll get elected out of office, if not then so be it.

oh Goober surely you can do better than that. you're a redneck Georgia arsehole that never leaves the county; what take places in NYC affects you not. but I give you +1 points for being so ignorant (or is it stupid?) that you can't realize mankind has a responsibility to our own selves to take steps to keep the very planet we depend on for life free from destructive pollutions. you're as dumb as they cum. please don't reproduce.


PS: We don't live in a free country. We live in a Democracy. Moran.
 
2013-02-15 08:43:12 PM  
What's the point if they're not also willing to ban banning banning things?
 
2013-02-15 08:49:41 PM  
You can take my styrofoam
From my cold dead hands.
 
2013-02-15 08:58:21 PM  

NullReferenceException: They banned Styrofoam, the trademarked extruded polystyrene product made by the Dow Chemical Company? Were they actually so stupid as to ban the specific brand? I imagine Dow probably has the money to fight that.


You should really try to RTFA before chiming in with questions, it would save us all a metric shiat-ton of time...
FTFA:
 In the case of Styrofoam, ... Styrofoam is a brand name, it's really polystyrene that you're banning.

I think the soda thing is the most annoying. This isn't something that affects OTHER people's health like smoking, and it doesn't cause pollution issues like Styrofoam. And to top it off, the farker does it at movie theaters? Yeah, we share a big soda at the movie because they cost $4 a pop for a small. Fark that noise... So glad I don't live there, I really don't see the draw to that place.
 
2013-02-15 09:06:40 PM  

toilet_lolly: You can take my styrofoam
From my  (insulated from) cold dead hands. FTFY

 
2013-02-15 09:07:36 PM  
Yo dawg, I heard you like banning things...
 
2013-02-15 09:11:52 PM  
I think this dickhead is trying to turn New York into his private little version of Demolition Man without Sylvester Stallone (good) or Sandra Bullock in spandex (bad).
 
2013-02-15 09:15:27 PM  

skinink: I'm for government being proactive. If polystyrene is bad for the environment, I don't see why it should wind up in landfills to stay there forever.


Not forever it does decompose though slowly.  However, styrene is not considered dangerous to the environment. It just takes up bulk in land fills and is unsightly and lingers when it is litter.

Fun fact. Styrene is generated in some wine making and cheese making and natural processes and has been in our environment/biosphere in some way or another as long as humans have existed and long before.
 
2013-02-15 09:36:07 PM  
I didn't even know styrofoam was used for anything besides packing material anymore. I don't think I've seen a styrofoam cup in about 20 years.

Styrofoam isn't "dangerous" to the environment; however, because it degrades so slowly, it lasts almost forever. Worse, I know animals, especially marine animals, will eat it, and it blocks their intestines so they eventually die of blockages. So it's not toxic, but it would be wrong to say it's harmless.
 
DB
2013-02-15 09:38:16 PM  
As a New Yorker let me tell you how awful my life is since the mayor banned things like 32oz sodas and styrofoam. Oh wait, my life is EXACTLY THE SAME. Stop overreacting.
 
2013-02-15 10:52:32 PM  

jigger: Next ban scissors. You can put your eye out.


upload.wikimedia.org
The movie wasn't THAT bad.
 
2013-02-15 11:01:02 PM  
Subby must not be from a city.  This garbage has been banned for quite some time in cities as it is not recycalble.  Do they know that trashing your own environment/home trashes them as well?
 
2013-02-15 11:31:19 PM  
Banning styrofoam 

DB: As a New Yorker let me tell you how awful my life is since the mayor banned things like 32oz sodas and styrofoam. Oh wait, my life is EXACTLY THE SAME. Stop overreacting.


Just because these two things didn't effect your life doesn't mean they were right in doing it, sooner or later they will ban something that you do care about and you'll have no right to complain seeing as you bent over and let them shove all the other bans up your ass.
 
2013-02-15 11:34:57 PM  
I can see banning styrofoam in places like fast food/take-out restaurants due to the shear volume of it they go through, but banning people from buying it in stores for their personal use at home is simply ignorant.
 
2013-02-15 11:46:01 PM  

Day_Old_Dutchie: NullReferenceException:

For instance, the Xbox we just got was packaged in some very ingeniously-folded corrugated box-board.
It just goes into the recycling with the other cardboard, no problem.


Just for reference to you gamers out there, a month or so ago, I sold a Gamecube box - JUST the box - for $20 (the one for the platinum cube, so somewhat limited compared to the black/purple). I could have sold another one back in December but I was too lazy to break up the package deal with the actual Gamecube.

Don't throw your boxes out; they do actually retain some of the value, plus it's easier when you move.
 
2013-02-16 12:07:30 AM  

DB: As a New Yorker let me tell you how awful my life is since the mayor banned things like 32oz sodas and styrofoam. Oh wait, my life is EXACTLY THE SAME. Stop overreacting.


if you don't think there is a fundamentally farked up situation when somebody bans something as asinine as a 32oz soda then i seriously think your previous life was a german in the 1930s.
 
8zo
2013-02-16 12:07:32 AM  

skinink: I'm for government being proactive. If polystyrene is bad for the environment, I don't see why it should wind up in landfills to stay there forever.


Polystryene uses fewer resources than paper and has superior performance.  AND... *everything* lasts forever in a sanitary landfill.  I saw a landfill that was being dug up years ago, and the newspapers and telephone books from 40 years ago were fresh like the day they were discarded.
 
2013-02-16 12:20:32 AM  
and they keep voting Democrat...
 
2013-02-16 12:54:24 AM  
He should move to southern California, where there's a city out near Palm Springs called Banning.
 
2013-02-16 01:29:48 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.


They have to be.

 That many humans living in close proximity to each other with no actual resources to draw on is a naturally unstable system. It's made workable only by the fact that everyone does exactly what they're supposed to do.

 My husband has a theory, and I suspect he is correct. That political leanings are more a result of population density than anything else. Densely populated urban centers cannot support much in the way of individuality due to the lack of resources and their potential impingement on other people. For example: Someone who wants to work on their plumbing instead of calling a plumber can do that in their own home with minimal risk (except perhaps sleeping on the couch for a while if he screws it up and paying for fixing stuff), but someone who risks screwing up the plumbing of an entire mutli-story building is going to catch a lot more grief from their neighbors and building manager. Possibly even jail time. One leads to someone potentially learning to fix their own stuff, the other leads to someone depending on a "professional" to come fix things for them because you can *not* fix it yourself.

 A lifetime of either of those is going to result in thinking pattern tendencies. (As happens to all mammals).
 
2013-02-16 01:36:34 AM  
For the record, New York City has ~8 million residents. New York STATE has ~18 million. There's also a ton more landmass outside the NYC. It takes over six hours to drive across the state west to east or vice versa, and there's a lot more to it than that one festering pile of concrete.

We're not all crazy NYC residents who vote for Bloomberg. And trust me, as annoying as Cuomo can be, Paladino would have been SO MUCH WORSE...
 
2013-02-16 03:19:41 AM  

KrispyKritter: KrispyKritter: mizchief: KrispyKritter: i saw morans on TV upset that teh mayor wants to bans styrofoam cups. was amazed at their stupid. to see it here on FARK just breaks my heart. i remember HS kids picketing fast food joints in NJ what 20 years ago? that's why it's cardboard and paper wraps these days. THIS IS A GOOD THING. WTF is wrong with you people?

We live in a free country you shiat head. If you don't want people to use Styrofoam then don't buy products that come packaged in them. If you want others to stop using it, then try to convince them not to using facts and reason. If people believe that the benefits out weigh the consequences then so be it.

If Bloomberg wants to be a mini-dictator that's fine with me, i'll simply choose not to live in or spend my tourist dollars in his kingdom. If enough people agree with me, he'll get elected out of office, if not then so be it.

oh Goober surely you can do better than that. you're a redneck Georgia arsehole that never leaves the county; what take places in NYC affects you not. but I give you +1 points for being so ignorant (or is it stupid?) that you can't realize mankind has a responsibility to our own selves to take steps to keep the very planet we depend on for life free from destructive pollutions. you're as dumb as they cum. please don't reproduce.

PS: We don't live in a free country. We live in a Democracy. Moran.


No, DUMBASS. We live in a republic. Get your stupidity straight.
 
2013-02-16 03:21:18 AM  

jcooli09: jehovahs witness protection: How does someone who tries to control every aspect of so many lives keep getting elected? New Yorkers are the best trained sheep on Earth.

I think it's astounding how you are always full of shiat.  How do you manage it?


You sound like an idiot new Yorker. Or is it idiot Californian?
 
2013-02-16 04:41:36 AM  

DB: As a New Yorker let me tell you how awful my life is since the mayor banned things like 32oz sodas and styrofoam. Oh wait, my life is EXACTLY THE SAME. Stop overreacting.


It's both amusing and sad that you are oblivious to the fact that by the time they do make a law that negatively impacts your life, they'll have 500 precedents making the law legitimate, which means that you'll have no recourse to do anything about it.
 
2013-02-16 06:56:19 AM  

DB: As a New Yorker let me tell you how awful my life is since the mayor banned things like 32oz sodas and styrofoam. Oh wait, my life is EXACTLY THE SAME. Stop overreacting.


Q: What is the purpose of a ban?
A: To solve a problem.

Q: Did the ban solve a problem?
A: No, Life went on unchanged.

Q: So... What was the real purpose of a ban?
A: To make politicians look like tough guys against a problem they don't understand.

Suggestion: If you are a politician and you want to look tough without actually helping anyone, why not photoshop your face onto an action movie poster or have a photo op with some guns.

dl.dropbox.com

See, now you look tough without having to put any effort into actually being competent!
 
2013-02-16 01:25:51 PM  
There not banning everything, its just what there not banning is a much shorter list.
 
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