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(NPR)   The South rises again to take down all those cotton-pickin' horsefeathered gotdamn Yankees who have the nerve, I say the gumption, I say the sheer unmitigated gall, to call something like chicken and waffles a "southern dish"   (npr.org) divider line 181
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2013-02-15 05:43:30 PM

BitwiseShift: Fried spaghetti on a bun -- that's what they eat in Belgium.


I grew up eating spaghetti sandwiches, they're delicious. Spaghetti and meat sauce on two slices of bread.
 
2013-02-15 05:44:46 PM

ashinmytomatoes: Nabb1: Rapmaster2000: It's a dish invented in the North by Southern blacks and consumed by white people in Northern cities located in the South like Austin and Atlanta.

/that should kick things off

I've always understood this to be the case as well.  It evolved from Southern cuisine, but not actually in the South (perhaps Harlem, if I am not mistaken).  I hadn't heard of it until I went to New York a number of years ago, or at least, I hadn't seen it on any menus.

It is not something I've heard of around New Orleans.


There's a food truck in baton rouge that sells it.
 
2013-02-15 06:03:25 PM

steamingpile: Rapmaster2000: ricewater_stool: I love fried chicken and I love waffles but eating them together is gross.

I like it.  The oddest thing is how it's big with Southern-style haute cuisine places.  I frequently see highbrow interpretations of it in Atlanta, but everyone says Gladys Knight's place has the best.

Weird, I drive past there today before they opened and there were people waiting to get in and all were non-white.

You would think with a cheer competition in town they would be flocking to that place to eat


They opened one on 141 just north of McGinns Ferry about 3 years ago and it lasted about 6 months.   Too bad.  I ate there for lunch a few times and it was good.  That whole strip mall is empty though and has been since they built it.  Terrible location.
 
2013-02-15 06:04:53 PM

mbillips: Rapmaster2000: mbillips: swankywanky: mbillips: You can't get chicken and waffles in Atlanta, unless you combine two orders at Waffle House. I never heard of it until I went to Chicago.

sure you can -->   http://gladysandron.net/

Yeah, I forgot about that. But it's transplant food, very recent, and only available at Gladys' and a few high-end joints.

I've seen it at Twain's, H. Harper Station, Homegrown, and several other places.  As for high-end, I know Empire State South has it.

OK, so you can get California food in Atlanta. I need to eat out more.

/But I cook, so why bother?
//Never have been able to make good fried chicken, though.


I can't make good fried chicken either.  You need a deep fryer and experience... and buttermilk.
 
2013-02-15 06:50:49 PM

Rapmaster2000: mbillips: swankywanky: mbillips: You can't get chicken and waffles in Atlanta, unless you combine two orders at Waffle House. I never heard of it until I went to Chicago.

sure you can -->   http://gladysandron.net/

Yeah, I forgot about that. But it's transplant food, very recent, and only available at Gladys' and a few high-end joints.

I've seen it at Twain's, H. Harper Station, Homegrown, and several other places.  As for high-end, I know Empire State South has it.


Does H Harper still serve pappy redds? Never can find that shiat in any liquor store and wanted to let someone taste it just once.
 
2013-02-15 07:14:49 PM
I'm sure there are some places around here that serve chicken and waffles, but in Louisiana, the only place I've ever seen it is at IHOP.  I always thought it was a Dutch thing.
 
2013-02-15 07:21:08 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: When I asked for some unsweetened tea the woman literally snarled at me.


I've lived in the South all my life, have traveled all over the region, drink only unsweetened tea and I have never ONCE had anybody give me shiat about it. You sure you didn't come across as a dick?
 
2013-02-15 07:54:54 PM
Welcome to Atlantatortugatunes.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-15 07:59:55 PM
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2013-02-15 08:23:47 PM

Lumpmoose: Rapmaster2000: It's a dish invented in the North by Southern blacks and consumed by white people in Northern cities located in the South like Austin and Atlanta.

/that should kick things off

So it's like spaghetti and meatballs then.


I know I am new in Austin (I've been here since May 2011) but I missed the memo on the whole "Chicken and Waffles are popular in Austin" thing...
 
2013-02-15 08:40:30 PM
I grew up in New Orleans, lived in Hot Lanta, and now reside in Florida.  Florida stops being the south when you get past Jacksonville.

Never heard of Chicken in waffles growing up, and I ate tons of late night food in New Orleans.

New Orleans late night food is Ya Ka Mein, gumbo, potato salad, lucky dogs, seafood, just about whatever you want.  Shrimp creole omelettes, but never chicken and waffles.  Did not see it in Atlanta or here in florida, unless some aging hipsters were talking about it.

Ya Ka mein is a soup the african american brought by from korea, and made it with local items.

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2013-02-15 08:53:23 PM
then let them eat grits
 
2013-02-15 09:00:46 PM

Dahnkster: In the 80's and 90's the dish began to appear around Atlanta, NY, Savannah, Charleston.


Nope, not here in Charleston.  It's only popped up recently.  We didn't do fried pickles either, until a couple years ago, and really, they're just a novelty.  Nobody likes them.

This is the defining document of soul food in Charleston:

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2013-02-15 09:08:21 PM
And to those who point to Early Bird Diner in Charleston as having awesome Chicken and Waffles, I'd like to mention this:

www.earlybirddiner.com


Est. 2008.  Jeeze, I've got cockroaches that have lived here longer than that.  Sure, no doubt, it's the best chicken and waffles ever, what more would you expect from a local restaurant?  It's just not from here, that's all.

//crochety from eating at The Wreck tonight.
 
2013-02-15 09:14:33 PM

aerojockey: I know it's not a Southern dish because it's good.


I was going to say that barbecue is originally Southern, but the Wiki article said it's origins lie in the Caribbean....

/ it's Southern to me
// most excellent food, IMHO.
 
2013-02-15 09:19:45 PM

Birdshead: I'm not sure I wouldn't like the combo, but whenever I hear it mentioned I think of the recurring problem i had with TV dinners: chocolate covered chicken.


Swansons? I remember those....

/ *shudder*
 
2013-02-15 09:26:07 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: aerojockey: I know it's not a Southern dish because it's good.

I was going to say that barbecue is originally Southern, but the Wiki article said it's origins lie in the Caribbean....

/ it's Southern to me
// most excellent food, IMHO.


Barbeque originated among the native tribes, who smoked fish.  They taught the Spanish, who then smoked pork (and maybe beef but probably mostly pork) and started adding spices.  The English would use lots of vinegar (hence those sauces' popularity in E. NC), and later German immigrants began making mustard-based sauces.

But it all goes back to the natives.
 
2013-02-15 09:33:53 PM
I am glad the Charleston love is coming out.  I was born I this wonderful city over 20 years ago, and I have NEVER been to a place that served chicken and waffles.

The first time I ever heard of this dish was on Man vs. Food a few years ago, and I was as confused as ever as apparently our brethren in Atlanta were subject to this mishmash of breakfast and dinner.  Everyone in Charleston knows a proper breakfast is at Alex's and a dinner at Melvin's or Bessinger's, and Krispy Kreme fills in for the random odd moments.

Chicken and waffle is FAKE and no more authentic than JD is bourbon.  Fried chicken, yes, we have that.  Waffles, yes, you can get some in our town.  But some 3AM dirty foodie dive that combines them both?  No, it doesn't exist.  There's Pita Pit and the random restaurants which are still open, but we're no better than any other city for those choices.
 
2013-02-15 09:37:11 PM

Gunny Walker: If it were a southern thing, the chicken would be wrapped in the waffle and deep fried like a corn dog.


No, that would be carnival food.
 
2013-02-15 10:03:50 PM
IMO, chicken and waffles is very similar to waffles and bacon, waffles and sausage, etc. It's the delightful combo of sweet and savory.
 
2013-02-15 10:57:52 PM
As a southern chef, I'm getting a kick....

Chicken & waffles as a dish, is more a product of soul food, rather than southern food.  There is nothing wrong with it, but it's not a southern thing.
 
2013-02-15 11:41:54 PM

BloodyL: Chicken and waffle is FAKE


Seems real to me.
 
2013-02-15 11:53:23 PM
surprised this wasn't posted yet (and if it was mea culpa)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyF8__fR8PQ

/is that a blank thing?
 
2013-02-16 12:34:27 AM
Seattle's Cap'n Black's C&W FTW
 
2013-02-16 03:17:00 AM

farkingismybusiness: [www.washingtonpost.com image 239x356]
Anybody try them yet?


Yes.   Didn't taste right. Kinda waffley, but not chickeny enough.  Wouldn't buy them again, but the other two sound much tastier.
media.heavy.com
 
2013-02-16 03:23:54 AM

itsaback: farkingismybusiness: [www.washingtonpost.com image 239x356]
Anybody try them yet?

Yes.   Didn't taste right. Kinda waffley, but not chickeny enough.  Wouldn't buy them again, but the other two sound much tastier.
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Holy shiat, that's awesome. Siracha and garlic bread flavored potato chips? A pothead's dream right there.
 
2013-02-16 08:01:27 AM
Dear South

Sorry about forcing you back into the Union. We see now that was a huge mistake. Please feel free to leave at any time. Now would be good for us.

Yours truly
The North
 
2013-02-16 10:32:54 AM

TommyDeuce: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: I'm against fried chicken and waffles because biscuits always beat waffles when it comes to chicken.  Maybe with a little peppercorn gravy.

Oooh yeah. I know what I want for supper now.

/ In GA
//Totally on team biscut for this.


I'm on team freshly made mashed potatoes, mashed with butter and milk and a little crater made with a fork which contains still more butter. Then the gravy comes into play.
And now it begins.
/instant mashed potatoes are the pus squeezings of Satan's own ass pimples.
 
2013-02-16 12:49:38 PM

theflatline: I grew up in New Orleans, lived in Hot Lanta, and now reside in Florida.  Florida stops being the south when you get past Jacksonville.

Never heard of Chicken in waffles growing up, and I ate tons of late night food in New Orleans.

New Orleans late night food is Ya Ka Mein, gumbo, potato salad, lucky dogs, seafood, just about whatever you want.  Shrimp creole omelettes, but never chicken and waffles.  Did not see it in Atlanta or here in florida, unless some aging hipsters were talking about it.

Ya Ka mein is a soup the african american brought by from korea, and made it with local items.

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Wow, that looks DELISH.

/just woke up

//hungreh!!
 
2013-02-16 09:34:36 PM
DontMakeMeComeBackThere: "Black thing" + political correctness = "Southern thing"

Not really, most of the foods considered soul(black) food up north like collard greens, okra, fried chicken, chittlins, etc are considered home cooking like anyone of any color would eat here in the south.

I don't think I even heard of chicken and waffles till I made it out to the west coast.
 
2013-02-17 02:48:24 AM

Oldiron_79: Not really, most of the foods considered soul(black) food up north like collard greens, okra, fried chicken, chittlins, etc are considered home cooking like anyone of any color would eat here in the south.


Exactly right, in the South soul food (IMO) was restaurants that made southern style food (depends on where you live in South though, Texas, Louisiana, Tennessee, Carolinas, Georgia, etc style food are all different) that were owned and cooked by black people. When I went to the west coast not only did I find out about fried chicken and waffles, but I realized the only places you can get southern food here is if you go to a soul food or barbecue place. There really is very little difference between southern food and soul food in south, and things like fried chicken and waffles is a type of soul food, but not one that originated in the south (as far as I know, I never heard of that dish when I lived in Dallas).
 
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