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(NPR)   The South rises again to take down all those cotton-pickin' horsefeathered gotdamn Yankees who have the nerve, I say the gumption, I say the sheer unmitigated gall, to call something like chicken and waffles a "southern dish"   (npr.org) divider line 181
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2013-02-15 03:31:00 PM  

give me doughnuts: Head_Shot: couldn't think of a Jewish donut to go with gefilte fish.


That stuff isn't bad after you drop it in the deep-fryer for a while.


Especially if you fry it in bacon grease and melt cheese on it.

/What?
 
2013-02-15 03:34:08 PM  

mbillips: give me doughnuts: Head_Shot: couldn't think of a Jewish donut to go with gefilte fish.


That stuff isn't bad after you drop it in the deep-fryer for a while.

Especially if you fry it in bacon grease and melt cheese on it.

/What?



Gefilte fish Courdon Blue: skillet-fried with hot ham and melted cheese on top. It's great for lunch after a hard Saturday morning of work.
 
2013-02-15 03:36:36 PM  
*sigh* Yes, I'm a phillistine. "Cordon Bleu"
 
2013-02-15 03:39:15 PM  

ricewater_stool: I love fried chicken and I love waffles but eating them together is gross.


Bless your heart.

Best chicken and waffles ever - Early Bird Diner in Charleston SC.  Heaven on a plate.
 
2013-02-15 03:40:48 PM  
uptownflavor.com
2 or 3 pieces of fried chicken, dusted in flour and fried crispy next to a plate of thin waffles that have a dollop of butter and some syrup. This isn't rocket science, people. As one of the older and well-traveled Farkers, this dish would NOT be something you would have found in traditional Southern or a 'soul food' kitchen or diner. It is definitely 'Southern-style' fried chicken, but also agree that Roscoe's in Upland, CA put the dish on the map. Hollywood and LA entertainers popularized the dish and I've heard dozens of references in movies and tv. In the 80's and 90's the dish began to appear around Atlanta, NY, Savannah, Charleston. It's what urban or trendy restaurants imagine Southern/soul food to be.

My 2 cents
 
2013-02-15 03:42:23 PM  

StrikitRich: It wasn't 10 years ago that gourmet grits were all the rage in The City. 10 years before that Red Fish was popularized there, too


Agreed.
 
2013-02-15 03:42:27 PM  

Dahnkster: [uptownflavor.com image 850x689]
2 or 3 pieces of fried chicken, dusted in flour and fried crispy next to a plate of thin waffles that have a dollop of butter and some syrup. This isn't rocket science, people. As one of the older and well-traveled Farkers, this dish would NOT be something you would have found in traditional Southern or a 'soul food' kitchen or diner. It is definitely 'Southern-style' fried chicken, but also agree that Roscoe's in Upland, CA put the dish on the map. Hollywood and LA entertainers popularized the dish and I've heard dozens of references in movies and tv. In the 80's and 90's the dish began to appear around Atlanta, NY, Savannah, Charleston. It's what urban or trendy restaurants imagine Southern/soul food to be.

My 2 cents


Damn that really looks good - so hungry
 
2013-02-15 03:47:08 PM  
motherf*ckers, get out of my diet. Gottam yankees
 
2013-02-15 03:47:15 PM  

AxL sANe: Best chicken and waffles ever - Early Bird Diner in Charleston SC. Heaven on a plate.


a4.urbancdn.com

Ya boy
 
2013-02-15 03:47:33 PM  

Rapmaster2000: FrancoFile: So I'm confused.  Is there syrup and butter involved in this?  Are they poured over the waffles, the chicken, or both?

Both are involved and both are poured on the chicken and waffles.


There should also be some hot sauce in there too.  Tabasco on the chicken, Syrup on the waffles...the magic happens when you get a bite where all four flavors get up on the fork at the same time.  It's miraculous, like a unicorn pooping in your mouth.
 
2013-02-15 03:52:54 PM  

Dahnkster: 2 or 3 pieces of fried chicken, dusted in flour and fried crispy next to a plate of thin waffles that have a dollop of butter and some syrup. This isn't rocket science, people. As one of the older and well-traveled Farkers, this dish would NOT be something you would have found in traditional Southern or a 'soul food' kitchen or diner. It is definitely 'Southern-style' fried chicken, but also agree that Roscoe's in Upland, CA put the dish on the map. Hollywood and LA entertainers popularized the dish and I've heard dozens of references in movies and tv. In the 80's and 90's the dish began to appear around Atlanta, NY, Savannah, Charleston. It's what urban or trendy restaurants imagine Southern/soul food to be.

My 2 cents


Sounds about right. I've lived in the Deep South for 30 years, have consumed almost every type of food deep fried ay ine point in my life, and I've never had chicken and waffles. Never seen them on offer, either, but then, i wouldn't order them if I did see them on the menu.

I was always under the impression that this was an LA/west cost thing that people ate when they wanted "southern soul food" but didn't actually know what soul food is.
 
2013-02-15 03:53:14 PM  

ghettodwarf: Rapmaster2000: FrancoFile: So I'm confused.  Is there syrup and butter involved in this?  Are they poured over the waffles, the chicken, or both?

Both are involved and both are poured on the chicken and waffles.

There should also be some hot sauce in there too.  Tabasco on the chicken, Syrup on the waffles...the magic happens when you get a bite where all four flavors get up on the fork at the same time.  It's miraculous, like a unicorn pooping in your mouth.


www.obviouswinner.com

Unicorn poop = waffles and fried chicken
 
2013-02-15 03:53:24 PM  
I'm not sure I wouldn't like the combo, but whenever I hear it mentioned I think of the recurring problem i had with TV dinners: chocolate covered chicken.
 
2013-02-15 03:53:38 PM  

AxL sANe: Best chicken and waffles ever - Early Bird Diner in Charleston SC. Heaven on a plate.


Early Bird has good chicken and waffles, but when Wild Wing used to serve brunch, their chicken and waffles blew my mind.  I was surprised, but I guess they do know a thing or two about chicken at WW.  The waffles were amazing.
 
2013-02-15 03:55:56 PM  
I think Chicken and Waffles are just what we Northerners think you Southerners eat. Lets all be honest, it's pretty close the the absurdly unhealthy dishes y'all eat down there. I thought I was about to go into a diabetic coma one time after drinking some sweet tea. Especially since, as a Northerner, I like my tea unsweetened. When I asked for some unsweetened tea the woman literally snarled at me. I just got some water ...
 
2013-02-15 03:56:08 PM  
I hope people continue to misunderstand chicken and waffles or think it's gross or just not like it because I don't want it to become the next "Hawaiian" pizza or chipotle seasoning or anything else that becomes "the next big thing" so I just end up looking like every other schmuck because I eat chicken and waffles.

I like chicken and waffles. I am my own schmuck. Not the schmuck that society dictates me to be.
 
2013-02-15 03:57:06 PM  
So just the other week I ordered a nice plate of chicken & waffles that cost me $15.
Now, that sounds downright overpriced-HOWEVER...... it was served to me by a very classy transvestite.

/true
 
2013-02-15 03:59:15 PM  
First encountered C&W in Chicago, spent a lot of time in ATL and Austin
 
2013-02-15 04:00:26 PM  
I never heard of them until I moved up north. Same thing with scrapple.
 
2013-02-15 04:01:25 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I think Chicken and Waffles are just what we Northerners think you Southerners eat. Lets all be honest, it's pretty close the the absurdly unhealthy dishes y'all eat down there. I thought I was about to go into a diabetic coma one time after drinking some sweet tea. Especially since, as a Northerner, I like my tea unsweetened. When I asked for some unsweetened tea the woman literally snarled at me. I just got some water ...


When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.
 
2013-02-15 04:04:13 PM  

BAMFinator: I have never been to a Waffle House, but I imaging you can get this there.


Nope. Unless it's new.
 
2013-02-15 04:04:35 PM  

brewthunda: ricewater_stool: I love fried chicken and I love waffles but eating them together is gross.

Seriously - it's totally random.  Like serving hot dogs and candy canes together or fish and donuts.


I'm not kidding... fish & donuts sounds more sensible and more appetizing to me.

/ice cream & mashed potatoes?
 
2013-02-15 04:04:59 PM  

ghettodwarf: Rapmaster2000: FrancoFile: So I'm confused.  Is there syrup and butter involved in this?  Are they poured over the waffles, the chicken, or both?

Both are involved and both are poured on the chicken and waffles.

There should also be some hot sauce in there too.  Tabasco on the chicken, Syrup on the waffles...the magic happens when you get a bite where all four flavors get up on the fork at the same time.  It's miraculous, like a unicorn pooping in your mouth.


Meh.
I'd rather just have some good chutney with my chicken.
 
2013-02-15 04:05:14 PM  
I always thought it was a SoCal thing as a native Texan who lives in NorCal.
 
2013-02-15 04:07:47 PM  
Sigh...
I miss my 3x weekly trips to Roscoe's.
Hell, That place will actually figure in to any decision I might make on moving back to LA.
 
2013-02-15 04:24:28 PM  
I grew up in Miss'ippi.  First I ever heard of it was on "Fresh Prince" in the '90s.
Chicken & Waffles?  WTF?
NPR Troll is obvious.
 
2013-02-15 04:26:53 PM  
Thank you black dynamite!!!
 
2013-02-15 04:27:42 PM  
noitsnot:

When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.


As do I, which is why I was a restaurant that was serving Southern food. But, there is a difference between making yourself sick with an EXCESSIVE amount of sugar, and trying different "local delicacies". The human body simply cannot process that amount of sugar, its completely unhealthy.

Also, here in the North we have sweet and unsweetened tea. We definitely don't take it as an affront to our heritage to ask for something a little more familiar to you. Y'all Southerners must have an absurd amount of heart attacks.
 
2013-02-15 04:29:57 PM  

jigger: Same thing with scrapple.


Scrapple is from Philadelphia, and only people there or from there eat it.

noitsnot: HellRaisingHoosier: I think Chicken and Waffles are just what we Northerners think you Southerners eat. Lets all be honest, it's pretty close the the absurdly unhealthy dishes y'all eat down there. I thought I was about to go into a diabetic coma one time after drinking some sweet tea. Especially since, as a Northerner, I like my tea unsweetened. When I asked for some unsweetened tea the woman literally snarled at me. I just got some water ...

When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.


Everywhere I've been in the South, or at least 90% of the places I've been you can ask for un-sweetened tea, or "half and half" as I prefer.  Even in BFE, mom&pop places, that is.  Some places make their sweet tea a little too close to a saturated solution, and the extra sugar doesn't provide nearly the additional enjoyment that it does harm.

But other than that, yes it is worth it to dive into the local menu.  Nothing bothers me more than people looking for chain restaurants when we travel to new places.
 
2013-02-15 04:36:30 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It's a dish invented in the North by Southern blacks and consumed by white people in Northern cities located in the South like Austin and Atlanta.

/that should kick things off


So it's a Southern dish.
 
2013-02-15 04:36:54 PM  

mbillips: swankywanky: mbillips: You can't get chicken and waffles in Atlanta, unless you combine two orders at Waffle House. I never heard of it until I went to Chicago.

sure you can -->   http://gladysandron.net/

Yeah, I forgot about that. But it's transplant food, very recent, and only available at Gladys' and a few high-end joints.


I've seen it at Twain's, H. Harper Station, Homegrown, and several other places.  As for high-end, I know Empire State South has it.
 
2013-02-15 04:38:11 PM  

A Shambling Mound: Rapmaster2000: It's a dish invented in the North by Southern blacks and consumed by white people in Northern cities located in the South like Austin and Atlanta.

/that should kick things off

I got nothing. I can't find anywhere in Austin that has chicken and waffles on the menu, though. Maybe some of the home-cookin' places that don't have a menu on the web, I guess.


There was a place on Ben White that opened up a couple years ago. I think it lasted about a year.
 
2013-02-15 04:39:03 PM  

SilentStrider: That stuff isn't chicken and waffles. Cicken and waffles is chicken in gravy ladled over waffles. Suck it south. Pennsylvania Dutch ftw.


Suck it South? I am a 7th-generation Mississippian who never heard of fried chicken and waffles. Buttermilk biscuits, however, go with anything!
 
2013-02-15 04:41:31 PM  
Soul Food & Southern Food are overlapping circles on a Venn diagram.  Chicken & waffles isn't Southern food.

As soon as I hit Los Angeles, I asked around about where to get good Southern food.  This was the overwhelming response: "Oh, chicken & waffles?"
 
2013-02-15 04:50:55 PM  
If it were a southern thing, the chicken would be wrapped in the waffle and deep fried like a corn dog.
 
2013-02-15 04:55:16 PM  

ashinmytomatoes: It is not something I've heard of around New Orleans.


Funny thing, I was in New Orleans in October and the woman at the table next to me at brunch was eating chicken and waffles.  First time I ever heard of it.
 
2013-02-15 04:56:05 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: noitsnot:

When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.


As do I, which is why I was a restaurant that was serving Southern food. But, there is a difference between making yourself sick with an EXCESSIVE amount of sugar, and trying different "local delicacies". The human body simply cannot process that amount of sugar, its completely unhealthy.

Also, here in the North we have sweet and unsweetened tea. We definitely don't take it as an affront to our heritage to ask for something a little more familiar to you. Y'all Southerners must have an absurd amount of heart attacks.


I don't know where the hell you were but most people in my family have ordered unsweet tea every time we've dined out in the past 40 years and never even had a server blink at it.  Everywhere from East TN to Southern FL* to Central TX.  My anecdotal evidence trumps yours.

*most of South FL is actually New York, New Jersey and Canada and is not part of the South.  Anywhere inland and North of the Okeechobee is far more backwoods than deepest Alabama, though.
 
2013-02-15 04:57:11 PM  

Gunny Walker: If it were a southern thing, the chicken would be wrapped in the waffle and deep fried like a corn dog.


Dammit, now I've gotta try that.
 
2013-02-15 04:58:18 PM  
I blame Atlanta.
 
2013-02-15 05:02:32 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: noitsnot:

When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.


As do I, which is why I was a restaurant that was serving Southern food. But, there is a difference between making yourself sick with an EXCESSIVE amount of sugar, and trying different "local delicacies". The human body simply cannot process that amount of sugar, its completely unhealthy.

Also, here in the North we have sweet and unsweetened tea. We definitely don't take it as an affront to our heritage to ask for something a little more familiar to you. Y'all Southerners must have an absurd amount of heart attacks.


I think you have sweet and unsweet in southern Indiana.  I never saw it in the Region.  I don't think I saw it in Lafayette for the 5 years I was there either.
 
2013-02-15 05:12:31 PM  

Rapmaster2000: mbillips: swankywanky: mbillips: You can't get chicken and waffles in Atlanta, unless you combine two orders at Waffle House. I never heard of it until I went to Chicago.

sure you can -->   http://gladysandron.net/

Yeah, I forgot about that. But it's transplant food, very recent, and only available at Gladys' and a few high-end joints.

I've seen it at Twain's, H. Harper Station, Homegrown, and several other places.  As for high-end, I know Empire State South has it.


OK, so you can get California food in Atlanta. I need to eat out more.

/But I cook, so why bother?
//Never have been able to make good fried chicken, though.
 
2013-02-15 05:13:02 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: noitsnot:

When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.


As do I, which is why I was a restaurant that was serving Southern food. But, there is a difference between making yourself sick with an EXCESSIVE amount of sugar, and trying different "local delicacies". The human body simply cannot process that amount of sugar, its completely unhealthy.

Also, here in the North we have sweet and unsweetened tea. We definitely don't take it as an affront to our heritage to ask for something a little more familiar to you. Y'all Southerners must have an absurd amount of heart attacks.


Sweet tea is a huge part of their culture, and being affronted by outsiders is also a huge part of their culture.
 
2013-02-15 05:17:47 PM  

Rapmaster2000: ricewater_stool: I love fried chicken and I love waffles but eating them together is gross.

I like it.  The oddest thing is how it's big with Southern-style haute cuisine places.  I frequently see highbrow interpretations of it in Atlanta, but everyone says Gladys Knight's place has the best.


I've heard and read this too.

As for where it came from? L.A. about 15-20 years ago.
I saw a documentary on it 3-4 years back and it made its debut at some urban diner. I think the cook was from the south though like South Central...
 
2013-02-15 05:21:10 PM  
As an ignorant city slicker I have always wondered but was afraid to ask.  Do you put syrup on the chicken?  If not how do you eat waffles and chicken?  I just can't wrap my head around the logistics.  I'll take my answer with a side of gritties.
 
2013-02-15 05:25:37 PM  

Arthen: As an ignorant city slicker I have always wondered but was afraid to ask.  Do you put syrup on the chicken?  If not how do you eat waffles and chicken?  I just can't wrap my head around the logistics.  I'll take my answer with a side of gritties.


Chicken and waffles is city food. As in Los Angeles. Country people have never heard of it.
 
2013-02-15 05:29:41 PM  

Dahnkster: StrikitRich: It wasn't 10 years ago that gourmet grits were all the rage in The City. 10 years before that Red Fish was popularized there, too

Agreed.


Red Fish- at least BLACKENED Red Fish - came from NOLA courtesy of Chef Paul Prudhomme.
Best fish I ever ate.
 
2013-02-15 05:30:46 PM  
Yuck. Who the ____ would eat a waffle at the same time eating fried chicken?? Hugely fat people?

Oh.
 
2013-02-15 05:33:34 PM  

noitsnot: HellRaisingHoosier: I think Chicken and Waffles are just what we Northerners think you Southerners eat. Lets all be honest, it's pretty close the the absurdly unhealthy dishes y'all eat down there. I thought I was about to go into a diabetic coma one time after drinking some sweet tea. Especially since, as a Northerner, I like my tea unsweetened. When I asked for some unsweetened tea the woman literally snarled at me. I just got some water ...

When I travel somewhere, I eat their food.  It exposes me to new things, and I don't piss them off trying to get them to make a burnt pork chop and some stovetop stuffing like mommy use to.


Sweet tea is for hicks/rubes/holler people and inbred hicks.
 
2013-02-15 05:34:28 PM  

Rapmaster2000: It's a dish invented in the North by Southern blacks and consumed by white people in Northern cities located in the South like Austin and Atlanta.

/that should kick things off


Well it may be traditional to certain cultures but being raised in the south and family members from the south from before the depression I can say I had never heard of it until watching the travel channel talk about Roscoe's chicken and waffles. And this is from someone who's granny made chocolate sauce for bfast since her husband wanted some food in him that would last while he worked.

So it may be a black southern dish but its not something a majority of the south viewed as a dish they looked forward to getting, when I first heard of it my first thought was "ewwww, sounds disgusting"
 
2013-02-15 05:42:11 PM  

Rapmaster2000: ricewater_stool: I love fried chicken and I love waffles but eating them together is gross.

I like it.  The oddest thing is how it's big with Southern-style haute cuisine places.  I frequently see highbrow interpretations of it in Atlanta, but everyone says Gladys Knight's place has the best.


Weird, I drive past there today before they opened and there were people waiting to get in and all were non-white.

You would think with a cheer competition in town they would be flocking to that place to eat
 
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