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2013-02-15 03:30:18 PM
I'd punchisize his face for free.
 
2013-02-15 03:30:48 PM

Oznog: [i.cdn.turner.com image 200x223]
I'm sorry, I just *assumed* he was a Republican congressman or candidate or something.  I'm just so used to this being the case.



Same. Honestly, this is what meade me wonder if he was a republican Congressman...

FTA Hundley was arrested in 2007 following a fight with his girlfriend. Initially charged with simple assault, carrying a concealed weapon, and public intoxication, Hundley subsequently pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor assault rap.
 
2013-02-15 03:31:55 PM

Nadie_AZ: This man This child's parentsshould be publicly shamed and humiliated as punishment.


I don't condone slapping random Children.... but I understand.
Kids who can't control themselves have no business being on planes.
 
2013-02-15 03:32:52 PM

Richard Sauce: I propose separate but equal planes for families with small children.


Absolutely no law against "no kids" flights. But surprisingly, grown up snowflakes too fragile to endure the horrors of children on a plane don't seem to have enough money to make them a viable market to pander to.
 
2013-02-15 03:33:15 PM
Hundley, seen at right, is president of an aircraft parts manufacturer headquartered in Hayden, Idaho.

A corporate president from Idaho, eh? Wonder who he donates to.
 
2013-02-15 03:33:45 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Dancin_In_Anson: What a farking asshole. I met a lady with a toddler and a baby on a flight from Tampa to Atlanta. They were sitting right behind me. The baby was pretty  fussy so I offered to help her out. I entertained the older (about 2 years old) with boos and toys while she tended to the baby who cried most of the flight. Turns out that she was on the same flight I was all the way to Dallas, so I hung in there with her the whole way. We grabbed some lunch and I found out that she was an attorney in Tampa on her way to see her folks. She insisted on paying for lunch (I didn't want her to pay as I was drinking beer and my beer tab can get out of hand) and after some arguing I relented. I asked the flight crew to DFW if we could switch seats around so I could help her out further if the kids (the 2 year old and I were buddies by now) got grumpy during the flight and they let us. Anyway, we got to Dallas and I walked them all the way out of security to the curb where her father was waiting. She gave me her card and told me to call if she could ever help me out.

About 7 years later when my Dad's health was fading, my Mother had a lot of questions about how to set things up in case Dad lingered longer than he wanted to so I called her. Left a msg with her office telling who I was and how I got her name in case she didn't remember. She called me later that day and within a couple of days I had some good information for my Mother to work with...free of charge. I had asked for a referral.

Bottom line is Mr. Executive Asshole, don't be a dick. You'll be amazed at how well it can turn out for you.

/yeah yeah yeah CSB and all.
//still have her card
///Thanks again T!

Was waiting for the part where she took you to her hotel and farked you while the kids slept in the bathtub.  Leaving disappointed.


No no, she's a lawyer, and Dancin was the one client she *didn't* fakr.
 
2013-02-15 03:34:04 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bottom line is Mr. Executive Asshole, don't be a dick. You'll be amazed at how well it can turn out for you.


My wife had a similar story, but in reverse. She got on a plane with our kid and was having a tough time getting her bags stowed in the bin and the little guy was having a rough afternoon. The guy next to her, rather than help, started giving her shiat about how she shouldn't carry a bag she can't lift and telling her she needed to get our kid to shut up because he was trying to read the paper. Generally, he acted like an assbag for 2 hours.

Two days later, guess who showed up for surgery?
 
2013-02-15 03:35:00 PM

Sybarite: Pocket Ninja: coco ebert: A thread about racism AND children on planes? Oh, hell naw. *backs out*

If the mother had been breast-feeding her child at the time, we might now be facing the very real possibility that this thread could have become self-aware and, ultimately, decided to destroy us all.


I just want to know if the kid was circumcised and if anyone bothered to tip the flight attendant.


Or if the suspect was driving an electric car or hybrid.
 
2013-02-15 03:35:03 PM
Dear Farkers,

Please don't equate Northern Idaho with the Boise area. We are not all racists here. A little backwards, yes, but not all racist.
 
2013-02-15 03:35:30 PM
Of course he's from Hayden Idaho.
 
2013-02-15 03:36:06 PM

Prof. Frink: No no, she's a lawyer, and Dancin was the one client she *didn't* fakr.


That's...an interesting fark-filter effect.
 
2013-02-15 03:36:43 PM

offmymeds: Because People in power are Stupid: My experience is that hitting children just makes them cry more.

Not with my mom. I eiher stopped crying right then and there or I'd get it again until I STFU>


eiher = either

STFU> = STFU.

/stupid formatting buttons
 
2013-02-15 03:37:08 PM
I follow the "heavy alcohol consumption and loud headphones" school of commercial air travel.
 
2013-02-15 03:37:14 PM

brigid_fitch: In December, I flew from Phoenix to Philly and the 4-yo girl across the aisle from me wailed the entire flight.  Non-stop, nearly ear-piercing wailing for almost 4 hours.  The poor mother tried everything and was near tears herself.  Kid was just overtired and for whatever reason couldn't or wouldn't sleep.

We all wanted to shove that kid in the overhead, lock her in the bathroom, ANYTHING for a moment's peace.  And I'm sure I wasn't the  only one trying to figure out how to surreptitiously suffocate her w/my neck pillow.  But actually lay a hand on someone else's kid?  Nuh-uh--not if you want the mother to put you in a body bag.

CSB:  Guy in the window seat next to me had Bose noise-canceling headphones on the entire trip.  He didn't take them off until we touched down.  He leaned over to me and suggested I tell the mother to give the girl some gum to help w/her ears.  He was surprised to learn she'd been crying the whole flight.

Best. Product endorsement. EVER.

www.envirosafetyproducts.com
These are cheaper than the Bose headphones and, in my experience, work almost as well.  Spend about $15 on a decent set of earplugs, keep them in your travel carry-on, and all you need is a book and a window seat to enjoy every flight you're on.  Bonus: they keep that grandmother in the next seat from starting a conversation.  Minus: I have missed beverage service a few times if I was reading a particularly good book.
 
2013-02-15 03:37:36 PM
img.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-15 03:37:53 PM

Babbs: Dear Farkers,

Please don't equate Northern Idaho with the Boise area. We are not all racists here. A little backwards, yes, but not all racist.


Honest question.  Why is Northern Idaho so popular with white supremacists?  It's not like they need to get away from the 12 black guys in Montana.
 
2013-02-15 03:38:13 PM

Nadie_AZ: This man should be publicly shamed and humiliated as punishment.


americanvision.org
 
2013-02-15 03:38:13 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 700x600]


He's really cute, but.... I don't get it.
 
2013-02-15 03:40:16 PM

Sybarite: Pocket Ninja: coco ebert: A thread about racism AND children on planes? Oh, hell naw. *backs out*

If the mother had been breast-feeding her child at the time, we might now be facing the very real possibility that this thread could have become self-aware and, ultimately, decided to destroy us all.


I just want to know if the kid was circumcised and if anyone bothered to tip the flight attendant.


A lot of ignorant northeners will insist this incident was caused by slavery. That's incorrect. It was caused by states' rights. States' rights to declaw cats.
 
2013-02-15 03:40:21 PM
Pocket Ninja:
If the mother had been breast-feeding her child at the time, we might now be facing the very real possibility that this thread could have become self-aware and, ultimately, decided to destroy us all.

If the mother had been breast-feeding at the time, the baby might have been quiet and asleep (having equalized the air pressure by suckling,) and we'd have no thread at all.
 
2013-02-15 03:41:06 PM

Killer Cars: Hundley, seen at right, is president of an aircraft parts manufacturer headquartered in Hayden, Idaho.

Ah, yes, Northern Idaho; a pristine utopia of tolerance and progressive values.


I lived in Coeur D'Alene for 5 years, and I always was scared when I saw a black person.  I was worried they wouldn't make it out alive.

I woke up one morning to find Aryan Nation recruiting lit on my doorstep.

I decided the best course of action was to drive around town with an Obama for President bumper sticker.

/good times
 
2013-02-15 03:41:25 PM
Who you callin' "boy"?
 
2013-02-15 03:41:58 PM
I can mostly agree with this guy's actions.

I don't believe a small child can be held accountable for their actions.  I don't blame the kid.  But parents are adults.  If you are a parent, YOU should be responsible for the actions of your child.  In my mind, there is absolutely no difference between an adult with their child who is doing X and an adult doing X.  Same with pets.

My neighbors upstairs leave their dog in their tiny apartment while they go to work.  Dog barks all day.  I quickly got tired of it; recorded it barking, saved it to my media center, connected the surround sound system and the guitar amp and waited until they were home from work.  Then I proceeded to produce the EXACT SAME NOISE they'd been responsible for making.

In my eyes, those actions are equal.  They were dicks for making loud noises and I responded in kind by making loud noises (also making me a dick - but no more of a dick).

My point here is that he slapped the wrong person.  The Mother was the one who screwed up, not the child.  I don't blame the dog upstairs for barking, I blame the owners that are responsible for it.

//True story - the landlord called me up and said there were complaints of barking coming from my apartment.  I said, 'That's impossible, I don't have a dog.  I have heard a dog coming from upstairs though'.  Good times.
 
2013-02-15 03:41:59 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 700x600]

He's really cute, but.... I don't get it.


BAT'S RACIST!
 
2013-02-15 03:42:18 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Pants full of macaroni!!: [img.photobucket.com image 700x600]

He's really cute, but.... I don't get it.


That's The Racism Bat.  Some other Farker, I forget who, created the character in the Politics tab a few years ago, and I kinda ran with it.  I just couldn't think of a good line for him to say this time.  It's odd, it's obscure.... yeah, it's a Fark post.
 
2013-02-15 03:42:34 PM

pho75: Dancin_In_Anson: Bottom line is Mr. Executive Asshole, don't be a dick. You'll be amazed at how well it can turn out for you.

My wife had a similar story, but in reverse. She got on a plane with our kid and was having a tough time getting her bags stowed in the bin and the little guy was having a rough afternoon. The guy next to her, rather than help, started giving her shiat about how she shouldn't carry a bag she can't lift and telling her she needed to get our kid to shut up because he was trying to read the paper. Generally, he acted like an assbag for 2 hours.

Two days later, guess who showed up for surgery?


Who? Is your wife a surgeon and he happened to be the patient? That would be very crazy.
 
2013-02-15 03:43:13 PM

Pocket Ninja: coco ebert: A thread about racism AND children on planes? Oh, hell naw. *backs out*

If the mother had been breast-feeding her child at the time, we might now be facing the very real possibility that this thread could have become self-aware and, ultimately, decided to destroy us all.


Only way it could get worse after that is if one of them was on a bike and refused to leave a tip.
 
2013-02-15 03:43:43 PM
There are limits to personal responsibility.  First off, he was traveling to a family funeral, so he was obviously in a fragile emotional state.  Second, the mother seemed more interested in arguing with him than tending to her small child.  Unless the kid was flying to Atlanta for an urgent medical procedure, there's little reason for him to be on an aircraft.  Furthermore, the passengers witnessed the plane waitresses over serving this guy when they admittedly suspected him of being intoxicated, which between the funeral and the screaming child is understandable.  And it's not like he punched the child in the face with a closed fist.  There's a decent chance that the mother slaps the child herself.  While inappropriate, it's not what I'd call an offense that requires us to get our torches and pitchforks.

Bottom line, it was a stressful situation and some things happened.  Everyone is fine now.  Let's move on.
 
2013-02-15 03:44:22 PM

BarefootInTheFark: Pocket Ninja: coco ebert: A thread about racism AND children on planes? Oh, hell naw. *backs out*

If the mother had been breast-feeding her child at the time, we might now be facing the very real possibility that this thread could have become self-aware and, ultimately, decided to destroy us all.

Only way it could get worse after that is if one of them was on a bike and refused to leave a tip.


A fixie... on his way to a Critical Mass event.
 
2013-02-15 03:45:07 PM

Rapmaster2000: Babbs: Dear Farkers,

Please don't equate Northern Idaho with the Boise area. We are not all racists here. A little backwards, yes, but not all racist.

Honest question.  Why is Northern Idaho so popular with white supremacists?  It's not like they need to get away from the 12 black guys in Montana.


Honestly, I'm not sure. The remoteness could be one reason. I think Ruby Ridge might have started the whole "Oh wow, look at that patriotic White Supremacist fighting the Gov'ment. We must move there and start our own club" thing.
 
2013-02-15 03:45:25 PM
Nothing good can happen when a screaming 2-year-old African-American boy is seated next to a 60-year-old racist on an airplane

That depends, what race is the racist?
 
2013-02-15 03:45:30 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: My point here is that he slapped the wrong person. The Mother was the one who screwed up, not the child.


Because the baby started crying on descent when his ears hurt?

What should the mom have done?
 
2013-02-15 03:46:14 PM

caddisfly: brigid_fitch: In December, I flew from Phoenix to Philly and the 4-yo girl across the aisle from me wailed the entire flight.  Non-stop, nearly ear-piercing wailing for almost 4 hours.  The poor mother tried everything and was near tears herself.  Kid was just overtired and for whatever reason couldn't or wouldn't sleep.

We all wanted to shove that kid in the overhead, lock her in the bathroom, ANYTHING for a moment's peace.  And I'm sure I wasn't the  only one trying to figure out how to surreptitiously suffocate her w/my neck pillow.  But actually lay a hand on someone else's kid?  Nuh-uh--not if you want the mother to put you in a body bag.

CSB:  Guy in the window seat next to me had Bose noise-canceling headphones on the entire trip.  He didn't take them off until we touched down.  He leaned over to me and suggested I tell the mother to give the girl some gum to help w/her ears.  He was surprised to learn she'd been crying the whole flight.

Best. Product endorsement. EVER.
[www.envirosafetyproducts.com image 400x400]
These are cheaper than the Bose headphones and, in my experience, work almost as well.  Spend about $15 on a decent set of earplugs, keep them in your travel carry-on, and all you need is a book and a window seat to enjoy every flight you're on.  Bonus: they keep that grandmother in the next seat from starting a conversation.  Minus: I have missed beverage service a few times if I was reading a particularly good book.


Trolling aside - I haven't had a lot of luck with ear plugs.  They do block sound, but the quieter it is the more sensitive your hearing becomes (within reason).  When I first put on ear plugs; they are great...but after five of ten minutes I start to hear things pretty well.

But if I put in ear plugs and then put on head phones - I'm in a world all my own.  I turn up the volume on the headphones until I can hear it at a comfortable level; but with the earplugs it's actually very loud and almost completely drowns out everything else.
 
2013-02-15 03:46:19 PM

Pants full of macaroni!!: That's The Racism Bat. Some other Farker, I forget who, created the character in the Politics tab a few years ago, and I kinda ran with it. I just couldn't think of a good line for him to say this time. It's odd, it's obscure.... yeah, it's a Fark post.


Ha! Somehow missed that one. Thanks for the explanations.

lectos: BAT'S RACIST!


lol
 
2013-02-15 03:47:32 PM
Smothering the child with a pillow is usually far more effective than smacking.
 
2013-02-15 03:47:50 PM
That prick is getting truculent.
 
2013-02-15 03:48:19 PM
My University's College Republican group was a bunch of fringe idiots that no one took seriously. Still, they were loud and proud of their ignorance. Martin Luther King Jr. Day was a university holiday. This group celebrated it as Robert E. Lee Day. They protested it when a state that we weren't even located in passed a bill they deemed liberal, but held a States' Rights Party which was just an excuse to hang up confederate flags.

I was once walking behind one of their leaders who bumped into an elderly Black woman on the street, knocking the woman down and sending her cane flying, and didn't even slow down to apologize. Of course that may have been because she was a terrible human being in all aspects, and not just racist. She may have done the same after knocking over an elderly lady of her own race.
 
2013-02-15 03:49:58 PM

Minos: That prick is getting truculent.


+1
 
2013-02-15 03:50:10 PM

born_yesterday: FTFA:  In an interview, Hundley denied striking the toddler or using a racial slur, though he did acknowledge that he "asked the mother to quiet the child."

After Hundley hit the child, Agent Cheney reported, Bennett received assistance from several other passengers, including Todd Wooten, who was in seat 16C. Wooten told agents that he "heard derogatory language coming from the rear of the aircraft" and got up to investigate. "According to Mr. Wooten," Cheney noted, "he saw Joe Rickey Hundley strike" the toddler.

Yeah, neutral witnesses are already coming forth to help crucify you, asshole.  Good luck with the non-apology apology.



Something doesn't add-up here with this Wooten guy.  How the hell did he hear derogatory language coming from 12 rows behind him?  I can barely make out what the air waitresses are offering me to drink when they are 2 feet away.  Does this guy have a N-word detector?  And who the heck decides that they better investigate this?  FTFA, this was during the approach into Atlanta.  So they are landing, and he decides it is best if he gets out of his seat to verify that either he does in fact have super hearing, or that his N-word detector is functioning properly.

A-hole probably did it, but let's not quote the least likely witness to what happened.
 
2013-02-15 03:50:22 PM

scottydoesntknow: BarkingUnicorn: Rapmaster2000: [i.cdn.turner.com image 209x241]

And there's the Mom.  This oughta crank the racism up to 11.

Got to admit, that kid has a very punchable face. ;-)

Not gonna comment on the kid, but that mom looks very hittable. Too bad she'll probably never go back....


The article states the kid is adopted, so you still may have a chance
 
2013-02-15 03:51:12 PM
I have a 9 month old daughter, and while we have not taken her on a plane, I can imagine how tough it would be to listen to her scream for an extended period of time on a plane just based on how awful it is on 20 minute car rides.

That being said, I have no clue how I would react to someone hitting my child.  I'd like to think that I would react rationally and let the authorities deal with it, but I fear I would probably react with extreme violence against someone that did that.
 
2013-02-15 03:51:28 PM

Genevieve Marie: Fark_Guy_Rob: My point here is that he slapped the wrong person. The Mother was the one who screwed up, not the child.

Because the baby started crying on descent when his ears hurt?

What should the mom have done?


I've got problems too - that doesn't allow me to violate the basic social contracts we all conform to.  Why should I be expected to answer for the action or inaction of the Mother?  *I* didn't spend the flight crying like a child.  I took appropriate actions to ensure that I wouldn't piss everyone off.

I'm not the woman.  I don't know what she should have done.  If you gave me a pet tiger, I wouldn't know what to do with that either - but it would be my responsibility to learn before I let it eat someone's child.  She should have figured it out *before* ruining everyone's flight.
 
2013-02-15 03:52:27 PM
Only on Fark could this story have a headline that emphasizes racism and ignores the fact that the man hit a child.

It's like Not News: Man hits annoying child seated next to him on airplane. Fark: He used a racial slur.

People have a right to be racist. They are even allowed under the First Amendment to express their racism.

It is illegal to hit a child.
 
2013-02-15 03:53:26 PM
Coco LaFemme: ...That being said, you NEVER put your hands on someone else's child, unless you're trying to pull them out of the way of oncoming traffic or something...

Though I haven't experienced such indignity myself, I've read several internet anecdotes about folks pulling small children out of dangerous situations (including traffic) and promptly getting chewed out by the inattentive parent for laying a hand on their special snowflake.

I would go ahead and NEVER EVER put hands on someone else's child and let Darwin take care of the rest. Maybe a courtesy "LOOK OUT," but no physical contact. Of course, I'm an acknowledged child hater. YMMV.
 
2013-02-15 03:53:36 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: I can mostly agree with this guy's actions.

I don't believe a small child can be held accountable for their actions.  I don't blame the kid.  But parents are adults.  If you are a parent, YOU should be responsible for the actions of your child.  In my mind, there is absolutely no difference between an adult with their child who is doing X and an adult doing X.  Same with pets.

My neighbors upstairs leave their dog in their tiny apartment while they go to work.  Dog barks all day.  I quickly got tired of it; recorded it barking, saved it to my media center, connected the surround sound system and the guitar amp and waited until they were home from work.  Then I proceeded to produce the EXACT SAME NOISE they'd been responsible for making.

In my eyes, those actions are equal.  They were dicks for making loud noises and I responded in kind by making loud noises (also making me a dick - but no more of a dick).

My point here is that he slapped the wrong person.  The Mother was the one who screwed up, not the child.  I don't blame the dog upstairs for barking, I blame the owners that are responsible for it.

//True story - the landlord called me up and said there were complaints of barking coming from my apartment.  I said, 'That's impossible, I don't have a dog.  I have heard a dog coming from upstairs though'.  Good times.


...Goddamn, you can tell the people here who don't know basic farking biology. The kid was  in farking pain, you asshole. How is that in any way ANYONE'S fault?

You cannot ban children from flying, but I dearly wish they would ban idiots who think they have the right to NEVAR EVAR DEAL WITH SCREAMING BABBY, OTHER PEOPLE ARE  SUCH AN AFFRONT TO MY SENSES I MUST  HATE THEM FOREVAR!!!!11!!!

Seriously, if you can look at a screaming baby and not put up with it, you have no right to call yourself an adult, because you should damn well be able to understand that it's an adult's job to put up with shiat other people, babies included, can't control.
 
2013-02-15 03:54:09 PM

AirForceVet: I find a 60-year-old racist bully slapping a toddler aboard an aircraft in flight especially despicable.

[rlv.zcache.com image 400x400]


Are you also against teen alcoholism in all its forms?
 
2013-02-15 03:54:36 PM

TerminalEchoes: Smothering the child with a pillow is usually far more effective than smacking.


cdn.videogum.com
 
2013-02-15 03:54:55 PM

roc6783: I have no clue how I would react to someone hitting my child


I know how I'd react...with as much damn violence as I could possibly create on the guy's head.
 
2013-02-15 03:55:08 PM

Happy Hours: Only on Fark could this story have a headline that emphasizes racism and ignores the fact that the man hit a child.

It's like Not News: Man hits annoying child seated next to him on airplane. Fark: He used a racial slur.

People have a right to be racist. They are even allowed under the First Amendment to express their racism.

It is illegal to hit a child.


It was a crying kid on a plane. He could have launched it out of the emergency exit at cruising altitude and the general feeling here would have been, "well, I don't support what he did, but I can understand why he did it."
 
2013-02-15 03:55:51 PM

Happy Hours: Only on Fark could this story have a headline that emphasizes racism and ignores the fact that the man hit a child.

It's like Not News: Man hits annoying child seated next to him on airplane. Fark: He used a racial slur.

People have a right to be racist. They are even allowed under the First Amendment to express their racism.

It is illegal to hit a child.


Seems to me that his use of racist language was a part of the story. This would have been on Fark regardless, but since it's a part of the story it seems germane to include it in the headline.
 
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