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(LA Times)   Tiny mutation may have shaped modern humans, rise of Magneto   (latimes.com) divider line 23
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2013-02-15 09:50:42 AM  
Quaid....start the reactor...
 
2013-02-15 09:57:07 AM  
SPOILER: Tiny mutations are responsible for shaping modern humans many times over.
 
2013-02-15 10:03:19 AM  
So, what you're saying is that Magneto is hairy, sweaty, has man-boobs, and perfect teeth?
 
2013-02-15 10:19:02 AM  
It may also have made people with the mutation more attractive to the opposite sex by allowing them to grow thicker hair or fuller breasts.

Hopefully not both at the same time.
 
2013-02-15 10:29:02 AM  
Dibs on Wolverine powers.
 
2013-02-15 10:32:10 AM  

Bondith: It may also have made people with the mutation more attractive to the opposite sex by allowing them to grow thicker hair or fuller breasts.

Hopefully not both at the same time.


I don't know, sounds like a business opportunity for bras with combs built in
 
2013-02-15 10:34:55 AM  

cgraves67: So, what you're saying is that Magneto is hairy, sweaty, has man-boobs, and perfect teeth?




The mutation seems to cause smaller breasts.

TFA is not very precise: "changes in their mammary glands."

The writeup at Science gives better info: "denser mammary glands, and smaller fat pads around those mammary glands."

Science also says: "he team measured sweat gland density in Han Chinese ... They did not have an easy way to tell if mammary glands were different "

I think we need a crash research program (with pics) to test this scientific hypothesis that Chinese women have smaller breasts.
(breast size in non-lactating women is determined by fat not mammary glands)
 
2013-02-15 10:43:42 AM  

SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine Mystics powers.

FTFY

 
2013-02-15 10:47:28 AM  
i.imgur.com

Give 'em the knee shooters.
 
2013-02-15 10:54:31 AM  
You know who else thought about a tiny mutation in humans?.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-15 11:44:44 AM  
Uh, isn't that basically how evolution works?
 
2013-02-15 12:23:05 PM  

StrangeQ: Uh, isn't that basically how evolution works?


This?
 
2013-02-15 12:43:37 PM  

StrangeQ: Uh, isn't that basically how evolution works?


The point of the story is not just to show human evolution exists, It is interesting for several reasons. Using the Science writeup I'll summarize

1) Scientist found a human gene for thick hair that appears only in East Asian and Native American populations.
2) They put the gene in mice to study it and found it also affects sweat glands, mammary glands, and mammary fat.
3) They checked humans with that gene and found they had more sweat glands.

Some think this evolved 35,000 years ago in central China when that area was much hotter and the sweat gland change was adaptive, while the change to thick hair was just a side effect and not adaptive. Since this gene has persisted in colder climates maybe the breast changes were also adaptive.

Summary: The "purpose" of the thick hair gene is not to give people thick hair.
 
2013-02-15 01:04:55 PM  

SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine powers.


Why do all the Marvel mutants get amazingly usefull mutations?  Wouldn't most mutations happen in gradual and often detrimental stages?

The Human Torch evolved the ability to burst into flame and immunity from fire.  You would probably only get one.
The flash moves at speeds that would burn up an asteroid, but he is immune to friction.
Reed Richards cen stretch himself and contract himself.
Susan Storm, invisibility, re-appear, force bubbles.
Peter Parker got a whole cornucopia of useful powers.
and on and on
 
2013-02-15 02:13:55 PM  

Tricky Chicken: SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine powers.

Why do all the Marvel mutants get amazingly usefull mutations?  Wouldn't most mutations happen in gradual and often detrimental stages?

The Human Torch evolved the ability to burst into flame and immunity from fire.  You would probably only get one.
The flash moves at speeds that would burn up an asteroid, but he is immune to friction.
Reed Richards cen stretch himself and contract himself.
Susan Storm, invisibility, re-appear, force bubbles.
Peter Parker got a whole cornucopia of useful powers.
and on and on


I'm pretty sure none of these characters are considered Mutants. The Flash isn't even Marvel.

Not sure about Spiderman - I'd have to ask a Sentinel.
 
2013-02-15 02:19:51 PM  

TheZorker: Not sure about Spiderman - I'd have to ask a Sentinel.


Spiderman is not what Professor X would consider a mutant.
 
2013-02-15 04:16:46 PM  

Counter_Intelligent: TheZorker: Not sure about Spiderman - I'd have to ask a Sentinel.

Spiderman is not what Professor X would consider a mutant.


God Prof X is a jerk.  Just because you are not born with a mutation does not mean you are no less of a mutant because a mutation was foisted upon you later in life.
 
2013-02-15 04:37:05 PM  

Tricky Chicken: SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine powers.

Why do all the Marvel mutants get amazingly usefull mutations?  Wouldn't most mutations happen in gradual and often detrimental stages?

The Human Torch evolved the ability to burst into flame and immunity from fire.  You would probably only get one.
The flash moves at speeds that would burn up an asteroid, but he is immune to friction.
Reed Richards cen stretch himself and contract himself.
Susan Storm, invisibility, re-appear, force bubbles.
Peter Parker got a whole cornucopia of useful powers.
and on and on


Most of the flaws with that list have already been noted. What I take from it is that most mutants with lame powers likely aren't worth having their own comic stories/even being mentioned.
Still there are powered beings like Eel, Longshot and Dazzler who just have really lame powers. On the DC side the Inferior Five also come to mind.
 
2013-02-15 04:37:56 PM  

Saiga410: Counter_Intelligent: TheZorker: Not sure about Spiderman - I'd have to ask a Sentinel.

Spiderman is not what Professor X would consider a mutant.

God Prof X is a jerk.  Just because you are not born with a mutation does not mean you are no less of a mutant because a mutation was foisted upon you later in life.


Mutant purists? Linguistically that hurts my brain.

The point I so aptly failed to make is that mutations wouldn't necessarily be super-power-like. If I were to have a mutant power, I'd probably be able to focus hard and grow my fingernails at a slightly faster rate than average.  I wouldn't be able to stick to walls, but I might be post-it note sticky.   You know, just sticky enough to always be covered with lint and small bits of paper.
 
2013-02-15 04:50:49 PM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Tricky Chicken: SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine powers.

Why do all the Marvel mutants get amazingly usefull mutations?  Wouldn't most mutations happen in gradual and often detrimental stages?

The Human Torch evolved the ability to burst into flame and immunity from fire.  You would probably only get one.
The flash moves at speeds that would burn up an asteroid, but he is immune to friction.
Reed Richards cen stretch himself and contract himself.
Susan Storm, invisibility, re-appear, force bubbles.
Peter Parker got a whole cornucopia of useful powers.
and on and on

Most of the flaws with that list have already been noted. What I take from it is that most mutants with lame powers likely aren't worth having their own comic stories/even being mentioned.
Still there are powered beings like Eel, Longshot and Dazzler who just have really lame powers. On the DC side the Inferior Five also come to mind.


But come on, the entire Marvel universe should have tons of people on the periphery of the stories with totally useless non-powers as mutations.  Like growing your hair at will but not being able to retract it. It would only be helpful as a learning aid at barber college.

Or, glowing faintly in the dark.

Wolverine should stop at a coffee shop, and interract with a barrista whose only power is to make milk (and no other liquid) steamy hot.
 
2013-02-15 05:04:05 PM  

Tricky Chicken: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Tricky Chicken: SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine powers.

Why do all the Marvel mutants get amazingly usefull mutations?  Wouldn't most mutations happen in gradual and often detrimental stages?

The Human Torch evolved the ability to burst into flame and immunity from fire.  You would probably only get one.
The flash moves at speeds that would burn up an asteroid, but he is immune to friction.
Reed Richards cen stretch himself and contract himself.
Susan Storm, invisibility, re-appear, force bubbles.
Peter Parker got a whole cornucopia of useful powers.
and on and on

Most of the flaws with that list have already been noted. What I take from it is that most mutants with lame powers likely aren't worth having their own comic stories/even being mentioned.
Still there are powered beings like Eel, Longshot and Dazzler who just have really lame powers. On the DC side the Inferior Five also come to mind.

But come on, the entire Marvel universe should have tons of people on the periphery of the stories with totally useless non-powers as mutations.  Like growing your hair at will but not being able to retract it. It would only be helpful as a learning aid at barber college.

Or, glowing faintly in the dark.

Wolverine should stop at a coffee shop, and interract with a barrista whose only power is to make milk (and no other liquid) steamy hot.


I'm pretty sure all the people with those powers were depowered/killed in that final battle of X-Men: The Last Stand.
 
2013-02-15 05:42:31 PM  
Yay! I singlehandedly turned a thread about evolution into a comics discussion, instead of the other way around.
 
2013-02-15 09:09:46 PM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: Tricky Chicken: SkylineRecords: Dibs on Wolverine powers.

Why do all the Marvel mutants get amazingly usefull mutations?  Wouldn't most mutations happen in gradual and often detrimental stages?

The Human Torch evolved the ability to burst into flame and immunity from fire.  You would probably only get one.
The flash moves at speeds that would burn up an asteroid, but he is immune to friction.
Reed Richards cen stretch himself and contract himself.
Susan Storm, invisibility, re-appear, force bubbles.
Peter Parker got a whole cornucopia of useful powers.
and on and on

Most of the flaws with that list have already been noted. What I take from it is that most mutants with lame powers likely aren't worth having their own comic stories/even being mentioned.
Still there are powered beings like Eel, Longshot and Dazzler who just have really lame powers. On the DC side the Inferior Five also come to mind.


I'm just wondering how an ability to weld dogs to people arose as a mutation
 
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