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(LA Times)   Crippled cruise ship Triumph finally docks in Mobile, Alabama. Upon realizing they were in Alabama, passengers demand to be put back out to sea   (latimes.com) divider line 46
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2013-02-15 11:19:29 AM
3 votes:

ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

This.

My wife and I have been on two cruises with Norwegian and are going on another (to the Carribbean, no less) that leaves on Sunday. We had a great time on the boat, and never had any real problems. On one cruise, there was a malfunction in a gyrocompass that keeps the boat's attitude constant, so the boat listed pretty hard for a few seconds, and the crew had to manually adjust attitude until we got to shore, meaning that the ride was slightly wavier that night. The problem was completely fixed by the time we left the next port.

The first thing we did when we got on the boat was a mandatory, boat-wide lifeboat drill. These ships have lifeboats that hold 30 people each, with supplies, food, engines, and shelter. The fact that these lifeboats weren't employed baffles me. It's not like they were in the middle of the Atlantic; they were in the Gulf, for crying out loud. Besides, they were trapped there for six days. You'd think they could have evacuated everyone by helicopter in that amount of time, not to mention lifeboats or other methods of evacuation.

I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.


Do you have any idea what it costs to deploy, recover and re-certify a cruise ship's entire complement of lifeboats?

I'm betting Carnival does.
2013-02-15 07:20:40 AM
3 votes:
I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.
2013-02-15 12:38:06 PM
2 votes:
Hmmmm ....
Hot as heck
Sleeping in tents
Pooping in bags
Cold food to eat
No fresh water

Sounds very similar to my camping trips in the wilderness back in The Day. (On a blazing hot summer day we follow a NFS road to its end, haul in all our own food and drink, pitch the tent, dig a toilet pit, etc. And leave no trace when we left.)

At least they didn't have a ship full of Norovirus to contend with  - that WOULD have been hellish.
2013-02-15 11:21:27 AM
2 votes:

ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

This.

My wife and I have been on two cruises with Norwegian and are going on another (to the Carribbean, no less) that leaves on Sunday. We had a great time on the boat, and never had any real problems. On one cruise, there was a malfunction in a gyrocompass that keeps the boat's attitude constant, so the boat listed pretty hard for a few seconds, and the crew had to manually adjust attitude until we got to shore, meaning that the ride was slightly wavier that night. The problem was completely fixed by the time we left the next port.

The first thing we did when we got on the boat was a mandatory, boat-wide lifeboat drill. These ships have lifeboats that hold 30 people each, with supplies, food, engines, and shelter. The fact that these lifeboats weren't employed baffles me. It's not like they were in the middle of the Atlantic; they were in the Gulf, for crying out loud. Besides, they were trapped there for six days. You'd think they could have evacuated everyone by helicopter in that amount of time, not to mention lifeboats or other methods of evacuation.

I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.


You really don't understand why they didn't abandon ship out in the middle of the Gulf when they weren't sinking? If you haven't realized it, the lifeboats and rafts have even less power and working toilets than the crippled ship.
2013-02-15 11:04:37 AM
2 votes:
First off, how the hell do they not have some kind of backup system to keep the lights on, the toilets flushing and the food safe?  Backup generators can't take up that much space and if it's something like the hydraulic system has to stay pressurized to keep basic systems running then there should be some way to keep it pressurized.  I'd imagine toilet flushing power level is a lot less than ship-maneuvering power level so you wouldn't need ship-engine-sized machines to do that.  Is this a case where the designers omitted safety systems to have extra room for more passengers?  I can think of another ship where that line of thinking bit them in the butt.

Second, these ships are simply getting too large.  Suppose something really serious happened and the ship was sinking, how the hell are Coast Guard/local authorities/the Navy/whoever going to rescue that many people?  I think the cruise industry needs to do some serious self-examination.
2013-02-15 10:33:02 AM
2 votes:
Jesus. I'm glad Americans of today weren't born in 15th century or we'd still think the world was flat because no one would be able to take the boat ride without biatching themselves to death. Oh noes! The luxury cruise ship stinks a little and the people have had to smell it for a couple of days while they get pulled to land. This is indeed a tragedy.
2013-02-15 10:29:34 AM
2 votes:
Don't blame the subby for being an ignorant band-wagon-jumper.

Most Farkers are.
2013-02-15 09:48:27 AM
2 votes:
In the future, passengers on the Carnival Triumph will look at the ice buckets in their rooms, and think to themselves, "I bet somebody pooped in that once."
2013-02-16 12:12:51 AM
1 votes:
Who knew that sailing on a ship registered with a maginally effective government might be problematic.
2013-02-15 09:25:19 PM
1 votes:

SCUBA_Archer: They should've at least stopped for the throwed rolls on their way to New Orleans.


Throwed rolls are at Lambert's in Foley, AL (Also in Missouri) on the way to Gulf Shores/Orange Beach...about 40 miles outside of downtown Mobile. They're delicious. The Dahnkster is all over the Gulf Coast.
2013-02-15 03:57:57 PM
1 votes:

sunlion: I suspect that the marijuana cruises out of Washington will one day be quite enjoyable. They don't have any such thing yet though. I checked.


The Coast Guard would be lying in wait for them if they tried it now.
2013-02-15 02:08:23 PM
1 votes:
Wintzell's Oyster House, The OIriginal Oyster House, Oriental Palace Chinese Restaurant, Callaghan Irish Social Club, Blues Tavern, The Shed BBQ, The Brick Pit Barbecue, Krispy Kreme DoughnutsMobile does not suck. Great food and fun bars. Fun stuff to do. The fishing there is great.
Cruise ship passengers just wanted to get home, but don't be hatin' on Mobile if you haven't been there. Bayfest is a 3 day music extravaganza with one of the cheapest tickets of all our Gulf Coast music events.
2013-02-15 01:49:28 PM
1 votes:

Oztemprom: PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.

Do you remember the name of the place?

/headed thereabouts in may


Actually, it may have been the Pelican Reef, now that I've had more time to look...
2013-02-15 01:42:51 PM
1 votes:

Oztemprom: PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.

Do you remember the name of the place?

/headed thereabouts in may


Regrettably, no, but it was right before the bridge on the Mobile side.  I hit up Google after posting that this morning and the place that I think it is looks pretty run-down now.  This was back in the early nineties, and even though we stopped there around one in the afternoon, they had a guy in the dining room playing acoustic guitar.  It was a really nice ambiance and the the people working there were great.  But I have no idea if it's still that way today.
2013-02-15 01:41:38 PM
1 votes:
My sister-in-law and her husband have been on... I think 3 cruises at like $2,000 - $3,000 each time. I know retired people who keep their passport/vaccinations etc up to date, pre-pack their bags (unpacking all the unused clothes out once a month or so to wash them) and scan the newspaper's Travel section for "we really need butts in cabins for this cruise leaving soon" deals. They end up getting to go on 8 - 10 cruises a year for the price they'd pay for ONE pre-booked cruise.

The one day I saw an ad for a cruise that was leaving in... I think 2 days and they had knocked the price down to under $200. Multi-day cruise, tons of stuff included but they needed butts in cabins really badly.  I showed the wife the ad, she saw "Entertainment: Michael Bolton" and said they'd have to pay HER $200 hehe.

I'll admit I've never been on a cruise and I'm not sure I'd enjoy it that much. I will say this, though, given how often cruise deals seem to show up these days if I was going to do a cruise I'd pre-book my holidays, get my passport/vaccinations etc and scan the paper for deals. If I go on a last-minute deal cruise and spend, say $300 - $400 for my wife and I both to go... worst case if we hate it that's not a $2,000 - $4,000 life lesson.
2013-02-15 01:22:20 PM
1 votes:
If I could sit on the deck, staring at the water with a drink and a J in the air, I'd take a cruise 4 times a year.

I suspect that the marijuana cruises out of Washington will one day be quite enjoyable.  They don't have any such thing yet though.  I checked.
2013-02-15 01:16:01 PM
1 votes:
Even better - one of the 'rescue' buses broke down on the way to New Orleans & the passengers had to wait for another bus to come pick them up.
2013-02-15 12:42:25 PM
1 votes:
I go to mobile a couple of times a year for work and enjoy it a lot.  Good food, very interesting places to drink, and some very interesting and fun people.  The only pain is a lot of the bars/clubs you have to be a member of to get in (I believe in order to stay open later). It is a very simple form to fill out, but a pain none the less.

As for the ship, I also cannot understand how they can allow a single point of failure like this to exist.  You have to have it so if you loose propulsion, everything else works, and if you loose everything else, you have propulsion to get you somewhere quick.
2013-02-15 12:34:29 PM
1 votes:

emersonbiggins: mjohnson71: ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: I assume Mobile has an airport.

I think it would be safe to assume that an America city with almost a half a million people would have an airport.

Mobile Alabama may be in the south, but flyover country isn't that bad.

I agree, but no Alabama city has a population over 250,000.


Doing a Google search various sources show Mobile the city with a population of about 200,000 but the metro area with 410,000+
2013-02-15 12:32:32 PM
1 votes:

ExcedrinHeadache: I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.


Using life boats is in a do-or-die situation. They are very dangerous. And do you think life boats have farking bathrooms?

No one here got hurt. They were much safer on the ship than out at sea.
2013-02-15 12:13:23 PM
1 votes:

mjohnson71: ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: I assume Mobile has an airport.

I think it would be safe to assume that an America city with almost a half a million people would have an airport.

Mobile Alabama may be in the south, but flyover country isn't that bad.


I agree, but no Alabama city has a population over 250,000.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-15 12:10:18 PM
1 votes:

pag1107: First off, how the hell do they not have some kind of backup system to keep the lights on, the toilets flushing and the food safe?  Backup generators can't take up that much space and if it's something like the hydraulic system has to stay pressurized to keep basic systems running then there should be some way to keep it pressurized.  I'd imagine toilet flushing power level is a lot less than ship-maneuvering power level so you wouldn't need ship-engine-sized machines to do that.  Is this a case where the designers omitted safety systems to have extra room for more passengers?  I can think of another ship where that line of thinking bit them in the butt.

Second, these ships are simply getting too large.  Suppose something really serious happened and the ship was sinking, how the hell are Coast Guard/local authorities/the Navy/whoever going to rescue that many people?  I think the cruise industry needs to do some serious self-examination.


I think the toilets are flushed with water, not electricity.  These ships have RO desalinization plants, but they are in the machinery spaces with the engines.  They do have generators, but I guess not enough to power everything.
2013-02-15 12:09:48 PM
1 votes:
I hope that going forward, the major cruise lines at least re-engineer their ships so there's at least a backup generator in another section of the ship so that if there's a fire in the engine room, at least basic systems can be operated.

/Has a whole house backup generator
2013-02-15 11:41:14 AM
1 votes:
Actually there are 2 large airports in mobile. One for commercial passenger and other was exmilitary used now for freight and soon airbus construction/testing
2013-02-15 11:39:20 AM
1 votes:

ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: I assume Mobile has an airport.


I think it would be safe to assume that an America city with almost a half a million people would have an airport.

Mobile Alabama may be in the south, but flyover country isn't that bad.
2013-02-15 11:25:28 AM
1 votes:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/People-spent-five-days-on - the-cruise-from-hell-and-all-they-got-was-500-and-a-crappy-apology.htm l

Daddy would never hurt a fly, but once he gets the snuff shakes... it's like he's not my daddy anymore, he's a MONSTER.
2013-02-15 11:15:35 AM
1 votes:

Limeyluv: It was a nasty experience, but compared to what it could have been...have you seen the class of people who take cruises these days? It isn't the Queen Mary. It's college kids and hen parties heading for the 24 hour buffets. The people biatching about the lack of food were the ones who could live off their body fat for a month. Cruising is for the lazy. Take a sea kayak and paddle the mangroves.

/Feeling mean because I haven't had my tea yet.
//Maybe I'll give up sympathy for Lent


Meh, I just finished working an 8-month contract on board a Holland America Line ship. HAL is all five-star luxury cruises that cater mainly to the retiree crowd. Saw almost no one in the demographic you were talking about.
2013-02-15 11:13:35 AM
1 votes:

DysphoricMania: What I don't get... How is this ship so messed up? I spent 4 yrs on a ship (Thank You, US Navy) and we never had anything close to the troubles cruise ships have. Do they not have repair crews or damage control crews aboard? Seems like you would want those...


Unlikely. Those ships are run with crews cut to the profit-margin bone, and most of their crew is going to be of the housekeeping and service-industry variety whose emergency training will consist of lifeboat duty and maybe CPR.

A warship, meanwhile, has to be able to take battle damage and keep fighting, and will have systems redundancies no civilian owner will pay for.
2013-02-15 11:12:42 AM
1 votes:
Hey,  Subby, eat a bowl, preferably one from the  Triumph's galley. I get to make fun of Alabama because I am a native Alabamian. You don't.

Meanwhile, Carnival just needs to reef the  Triumph, and put it out of our misery. Better yet, Carnival needs to reef their entire fleet and return the money to their investors.
2013-02-15 11:08:11 AM
1 votes:

WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.


This.

My wife and I have been on two cruises with Norwegian and are going on another (to the Carribbean, no less) that leaves on Sunday. We had a great time on the boat, and never had any real problems. On one cruise, there was a malfunction in a gyrocompass that keeps the boat's attitude constant, so the boat listed pretty hard for a few seconds, and the crew had to manually adjust attitude until we got to shore, meaning that the ride was slightly wavier that night. The problem was completely fixed by the time we left the next port.

The first thing we did when we got on the boat was a mandatory, boat-wide lifeboat drill. These ships have lifeboats that hold 30 people each, with supplies, food, engines, and shelter. The fact that these lifeboats weren't employed baffles me. It's not like they were in the middle of the Atlantic; they were in the Gulf, for crying out loud. Besides, they were trapped there for six days. You'd think they could have evacuated everyone by helicopter in that amount of time, not to mention lifeboats or other methods of evacuation.

I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.
2013-02-15 10:59:52 AM
1 votes:
Took a three day and a five day cruise with Carnival last year.  Loved it, would do it again, would rather take a Disney cruise, but I can only afford the Ford Fiesta version, not the Cadillac.
2013-02-15 10:47:38 AM
1 votes:
What I don't get... How is this ship so messed up? I spent 4 yrs on a ship (Thank You, US Navy) and we never had anything close to the troubles cruise ships have. Do they not have repair crews or damage control crews aboard? Seems like you would want those...

Wife and I have been thinking about a cruise for some time, but if the ships are run this poorly, well we may just have to save a little longer and just fly to places.  Or buy our own boat.

Still don't understand how a vessel that size can be adrift for that long.
2013-02-15 10:47:05 AM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Jesus. I'm glad Americans of today weren't born in 15th century or we'd still think the world was flat because no one would be able to take the boat ride without biatching themselves to death.


Mayflower log excerpt:

15 Feptember 1620 A.D.

Winds are very ftrong and feas quite high. Whilft lying at hull, awaiting calmer weather, John Howland announced he could no ftand voiding his bowels into buckets and threw himfelf overboard. Mary Chilton faid the meals, confifting only of bread with no meat were wholly un-eatable and refufes to leave her cabin. The decks are awafh with pifs and fhit and the ftenche--O the foul ftenche--is moft terrible! Many paffengers complain moft grievoufly over thefe conditions. We have refolved to heave to and return home, left mutiny occur. Fcrew the New World!

--Captain Chriftopher Jones
2013-02-15 10:45:54 AM
1 votes:
People started singing Sweet Home Alabama when docking. If ever there's some sort of Manchurian Candidate trigger for me to commit suicide it is if I'm in a good mood when hearing that song.
2013-02-15 10:44:42 AM
1 votes:

Limeyluv: It was a nasty experience, but compared to what it could have been...have you seen the class of people who take cruises these days? It isn't the Queen Mary. It's college kids and hen parties heading for the 24 hour buffets. The people biatching about the lack of food were the ones who could live off their body fat for a month. Cruising is for the lazy. Take a sea kayak and paddle the mangroves.

/Feeling mean because I haven't had my tea yet.
//Maybe I'll give up sympathy for Lent


Have you seen any of the pictures from the deck of the Triumph? Wasn't far off from the Axiom in Wall-E.
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\Did a cruise once: hated it.
2013-02-15 10:33:52 AM
1 votes:
So whats the big deal, did they run out of booze or something? Hmmmmm, an extra week at sea, even if its on a shiat covered ship, orrrrr a week back at work. Choice A for me please. Stop whining.
2013-02-15 10:06:30 AM
1 votes:

Hebjamn: Human Achievements : Split the Atom ☑  Put a man on the Moon ☑  Evacuate people from drifting cruise ship :  Too difficult.


Carnival made no attempt to do so.

They should have immediately sent emergency generators to get the water pumps working but they didn;t They didn't try to get the people off the boat. They didn't start a convoy of vessels to bring food and ice and such.

They freakin offered the passengers a free cruise. that's it. I hope the passengers sue them in to bankruptcy.
2013-02-15 10:04:02 AM
1 votes:
I can't wait until the passengers get home and start sharing their pictures. Carnival's story of "it wasn't that bad" should fall apart quickly.

If I was on that ship I would be super pissed off. They cruise line offered a refund and a free cruise. FARK you Carnival. What makes you think I'll ever get on your boats again!?!?!? I am sure I would

a) post all of my pictures and create a web site just to punish Carnival for their shiatty offer
b) Contact my lawyer and see how much settlement I can wring our of Carnival
c) Contact any other passengers I could and suggest they too get lawyers.

Carnival did as little as possible to help. I hope passengers make them pay.
2013-02-15 10:01:44 AM
1 votes:
It was a nasty experience, but compared to what it could have been...have you seen the class of people who take cruises these days? It isn't the Queen Mary. It's college kids and hen parties heading for the 24 hour buffets. The people biatching about the lack of food were the ones who could live off their body fat for a month. Cruising is for the lazy. Take a sea kayak and paddle the mangroves.

/Feeling mean because I haven't had my tea yet.
//Maybe I'll give up sympathy for Lent
2013-02-15 09:56:22 AM
1 votes:
Mobile has a dedicated cruise ship terminal, plenty of hotel rooms, a decent airport, and a large shipyard to do repairs.  Seems like a perfect place to go.  Better than some Mexican hellhole, for sure.  Weather is probably nice right now, too.  I'd hate to have docked there in August, however.
2013-02-15 09:51:30 AM
1 votes:
I almost moved to Montgomery. Job, you know. Decided it wasn't worth the money. Heard good things about Birmingham and Huntsville and Mobile but not Montgomery.
2013-02-15 09:50:04 AM
1 votes:

BoboRod: Ever been to Mobile subby?  It's not really so bad.


"It's not really so bad" would be a great advertising slogan for Mobile.

Of course, it would also be a rather blatant example of false advertising.
2013-02-15 09:48:13 AM
1 votes:

BoboRod: Ever been to Mobile subby?  It's not really so bad.  They do a bang up Marti Gras. Of course it's Lent now, so you may have a point.


Have you been to any place but Mobile?  Because it is boring to hell compared to everywhere else on the planet.
2013-02-15 09:46:54 AM
1 votes:
As far as Alabama goes, Mobile might be the best place for obvious pansy yankee libs like subby.
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-15 08:29:09 AM
1 votes:
I think Mobile is pretty nice these days.  I know that Royal Caribbean has or had a ship home-ported there.
There is fort Conde and the battleship so there are some touristy things.
2013-02-15 07:06:58 AM
1 votes:
Ever been to Mobile subby?  It's not really so bad.  They do a bang up Marti Gras. Of course it's Lent now, so you may have a point.
 
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