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(LA Times)   Crippled cruise ship Triumph finally docks in Mobile, Alabama. Upon realizing they were in Alabama, passengers demand to be put back out to sea   ( latimes.com) divider line
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2013-02-15 07:06:58 AM  
Ever been to Mobile subby?  It's not really so bad.  They do a bang up Marti Gras. Of course it's Lent now, so you may have a point.
 
2013-02-15 07:20:40 AM  
I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.
 
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2013-02-15 08:29:09 AM  
I think Mobile is pretty nice these days.  I know that Royal Caribbean has or had a ship home-ported there.
There is fort Conde and the battleship so there are some touristy things.
 
2013-02-15 09:43:21 AM  
"Absolutely we kissed the ground when we got off!" she said afterward.

I guess after you've spent a few days pooping in buckets and inhaling aerosolized sewage and eating dodgy food from kitchens with no refrigeration, kissing the ground is probably is the least unsanitary thing you've done.
 
2013-02-15 09:44:29 AM  

BoboRod: Of course it's Lent now, so you may have a point.


The passengers can give up "pooping in buckets" for Lent.
 
2013-02-15 09:46:54 AM  
As far as Alabama goes, Mobile might be the best place for obvious pansy yankee libs like subby.
 
2013-02-15 09:48:13 AM  

BoboRod: Ever been to Mobile subby?  It's not really so bad.  They do a bang up Marti Gras. Of course it's Lent now, so you may have a point.


Have you been to any place but Mobile?  Because it is boring to hell compared to everywhere else on the planet.
 
2013-02-15 09:48:27 AM  
In the future, passengers on the Carnival Triumph will look at the ice buckets in their rooms, and think to themselves, "I bet somebody pooped in that once."
 
2013-02-15 09:49:17 AM  

PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.


Know how I know you've never been to Maine?
 
2013-02-15 09:50:04 AM  

BoboRod: Ever been to Mobile subby?  It's not really so bad.


"It's not really so bad" would be a great advertising slogan for Mobile.

Of course, it would also be a rather blatant example of false advertising.
 
2013-02-15 09:50:39 AM  
At the very least, they can claim the trip was unlike any other.
 
2013-02-15 09:51:30 AM  
I almost moved to Montgomery. Job, you know. Decided it wasn't worth the money. Heard good things about Birmingham and Huntsville and Mobile but not Montgomery.
 
2013-02-15 09:51:47 AM  
...and then they drove them to new orleans.

/when will the nightmare end for these people
//the carnival triumph is a wonderful ship
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2013-02-15 09:52:20 AM  
"I want a hot shower and a daggum Whataburger"

Thank you, Mrs. Thurston Howell III
 
2013-02-15 09:52:45 AM  
Urine in the hallways.   Now, I can see where the logistics for the ladies might be a bit tougher than for the men, but they are on a boat.

OVER THE RAIL PEOPLE.
 
2013-02-15 09:53:20 AM  

Farce-Side: As far as Alabama goes, Mobile might be the best place for obvious pansy yankee libs like subby.


Only city with a dentist?
 
2013-02-15 09:56:07 AM  
Must be hard for them northern yankees on shore- having to use "manners" and such.
 
2013-02-15 09:56:22 AM  
Mobile has a dedicated cruise ship terminal, plenty of hotel rooms, a decent airport, and a large shipyard to do repairs.  Seems like a perfect place to go.  Better than some Mexican hellhole, for sure.  Weather is probably nice right now, too.  I'd hate to have docked there in August, however.
 
2013-02-15 09:56:28 AM  
Amazing that their stock hasn't really taken a hit.

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2013-02-15 09:57:38 AM  
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Why do I get all the looks when they talk about poop filled hallways?

/yeah, I saw Outlaw's post.
 
2013-02-15 09:57:48 AM  
Human Achievements : Split the Atom ☑  Put a man on the Moon ☑  Evacuate people from drifting cruise ship :  Too difficult.
 
2013-02-15 10:00:04 AM  
vpb
I think Mobile is pretty nice these days.  I know that Royal Caribbean has or had a ship home-ported there.
There is fort Conde and the battleship so there are some touristy things.

nope. the carnival holiday was in mobile and i was on its final cruise. now it sails for ibero as the grand holiday.
 
2013-02-15 10:00:34 AM  
Considering that the ship originated out of Galveston, Texas, the majority of the passengers were probably overweight, redneck, alcoholics from Houston so Mobile probably seemed a bit like heaven on earth.
 
2013-02-15 10:01:44 AM  
It was a nasty experience, but compared to what it could have been...have you seen the class of people who take cruises these days? It isn't the Queen Mary. It's college kids and hen parties heading for the 24 hour buffets. The people biatching about the lack of food were the ones who could live off their body fat for a month. Cruising is for the lazy. Take a sea kayak and paddle the mangroves.

/Feeling mean because I haven't had my tea yet.
//Maybe I'll give up sympathy for Lent
 
2013-02-15 10:04:02 AM  
I can't wait until the passengers get home and start sharing their pictures. Carnival's story of "it wasn't that bad" should fall apart quickly.

If I was on that ship I would be super pissed off. They cruise line offered a refund and a free cruise. FARK you Carnival. What makes you think I'll ever get on your boats again!?!?!? I am sure I would

a) post all of my pictures and create a web site just to punish Carnival for their shiatty offer
b) Contact my lawyer and see how much settlement I can wring our of Carnival
c) Contact any other passengers I could and suggest they too get lawyers.

Carnival did as little as possible to help. I hope passengers make them pay.
 
2013-02-15 10:06:30 AM  

Hebjamn: Human Achievements : Split the Atom ☑  Put a man on the Moon ☑  Evacuate people from drifting cruise ship :  Too difficult.


Carnival made no attempt to do so.

They should have immediately sent emergency generators to get the water pumps working but they didn;t They didn't try to get the people off the boat. They didn't start a convoy of vessels to bring food and ice and such.

They freakin offered the passengers a free cruise. that's it. I hope the passengers sue them in to bankruptcy.
 
2013-02-15 10:10:07 AM  
Maybe Carnival could put the passengers up in the Superdome?
 
2013-02-15 10:12:57 AM  

StrikitRich: Maybe Carnival could put the passengers up in the Superdome?


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They'd at least have some beer to drink.....
 
2013-02-15 10:13:19 AM  

the8re: PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.

Know how I know you've never been to Maine?


Guilty as charged.
 
2013-02-15 10:18:02 AM  
Their experience doesn't sound worse than what I imagine a normal cruise would be like.
 
2013-02-15 10:23:46 AM  
At least they dont have to worry about the rape gangs any more.
 
2013-02-15 10:28:24 AM  

santadog: Urine in the hallways.   Now, I can see where the logistics for the ladies might be a bit tougher than for the men, but they are on a boat.

OVER THE RAIL PEOPLE.


If you aren't a friendless pregnant woman or a landwhale - over the rail really shouldn't be an issue for anyone. But if you're nervous or too shy to have someone hold or hands to help you balance... use a bucket/bad pan then toss the contents. pissing and crapping in the hallway is just pure lazy.
 
2013-02-15 10:28:52 AM  

the8re: Know how I know you've never been to Maine?


Know how I know you've never heard of the Florida Lobster? Just as tasty when fresh, but unfortunately no claws to eat.
 
2013-02-15 10:29:34 AM  
Don't blame the subby for being an ignorant band-wagon-jumper.

Most Farkers are.
 
2013-02-15 10:33:02 AM  
Jesus. I'm glad Americans of today weren't born in 15th century or we'd still think the world was flat because no one would be able to take the boat ride without biatching themselves to death. Oh noes! The luxury cruise ship stinks a little and the people have had to smell it for a couple of days while they get pulled to land. This is indeed a tragedy.
 
2013-02-15 10:33:52 AM  
So whats the big deal, did they run out of booze or something? Hmmmmm, an extra week at sea, even if its on a shiat covered ship, orrrrr a week back at work. Choice A for me please. Stop whining.
 
2013-02-15 10:34:43 AM  
In before poor Farkers, who have never been on a cruise (or only cheap ass lame ones) comment about how cruises suck, the ships are overcrowded, the food is terrible, etc., and how they would never go on one. We get it, you're poor and it sucks being you.
 
2013-02-15 10:39:24 AM  
Why would you want to be in a boat full of fat people?
 
2013-02-15 10:42:04 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Jesus. I'm glad Americans of today weren't born in 15th century or we'd still think the world was flat because no one would be able to take the boat ride without biatching themselves to death. Oh noes! The luxury cruise ship stinks a little and the people have had to smell it for a couple of days while they get pulled to land. This is indeed a tragedy.


Didn't you hear?  They had to eat tomato sandwiches, for heaven's sake!  Is your heart made of stone?
 
2013-02-15 10:43:49 AM  
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2013-02-15 10:44:42 AM  

Limeyluv: It was a nasty experience, but compared to what it could have been...have you seen the class of people who take cruises these days? It isn't the Queen Mary. It's college kids and hen parties heading for the 24 hour buffets. The people biatching about the lack of food were the ones who could live off their body fat for a month. Cruising is for the lazy. Take a sea kayak and paddle the mangroves.

/Feeling mean because I haven't had my tea yet.
//Maybe I'll give up sympathy for Lent


Have you seen any of the pictures from the deck of the Triumph? Wasn't far off from the Axiom in Wall-E.
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\Did a cruise once: hated it.
 
2013-02-15 10:45:54 AM  
People started singing Sweet Home Alabama when docking. If ever there's some sort of Manchurian Candidate trigger for me to commit suicide it is if I'm in a good mood when hearing that song.
 
2013-02-15 10:46:42 AM  
I find this whole story just fascinating, and cannot wait to read more stories about how people responded to things as they unfolded.  A study in human social behavior if there ever was one ... people fighting, or coming together in groups; people taking leadership roles, or removing themselves to follow the leader ... and let's not leave out the possibility of a massive orgy while the band plays on
 
2013-02-15 10:46:52 AM  
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2013-02-15 10:47:05 AM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: Jesus. I'm glad Americans of today weren't born in 15th century or we'd still think the world was flat because no one would be able to take the boat ride without biatching themselves to death.

Mayflower

log excerpt:

15 Feptember 1620 A.D.

Winds are very ftrong and feas quite high. Whilft lying at hull, awaiting calmer weather, John Howland announced he could no ftand voiding his bowels into buckets and threw himfelf overboard. Mary Chilton faid the meals, confifting only of bread with no meat were wholly un-eatable and refufes to leave her cabin. The decks are awafh with pifs and fhit and the ftenche--O the foul ftenche--is moft terrible! Many paffengers complain moft grievoufly over thefe conditions. We have refolved to heave to and return home, left mutiny occur. Fcrew the New World!

--Captain Chriftopher Jones
 
2013-02-15 10:47:13 AM  

chewielouie: In before poor Farkers, who have never been on a cruise (or only cheap ass lame ones) comment about how cruises suck, the ships are overcrowded, the food is terrible, etc., and how they would never go on one. We get it, you're poor and it sucks being you.


Naw, its because I don't think there will be a safe, comfortable place for me to light up. If I could sit on the deck, staring at the water with a drink and a J in the air, I'd take a cruise 4 times a year.
 
2013-02-15 10:47:38 AM  
What I don't get... How is this ship so messed up? I spent 4 yrs on a ship (Thank You, US Navy) and we never had anything close to the troubles cruise ships have. Do they not have repair crews or damage control crews aboard? Seems like you would want those...

Wife and I have been thinking about a cruise for some time, but if the ships are run this poorly, well we may just have to save a little longer and just fly to places.  Or buy our own boat.

Still don't understand how a vessel that size can be adrift for that long.
 
2013-02-15 10:48:23 AM  
Please poop in these
i.dailymail.co.uk

Then leave them on your balcony
i.dailymail.co.uk

Or outside your door.
i.dailymail.co.uk

At least some people kept their spirits up on Valentine's Day
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Although these people spelled out "HELP"
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2013-02-15 10:50:46 AM  
Crippled cruise ship Triumph finally docks in Mobile Alabama...

Well the toilets didn't work, but at least the stalls were extra wide.
 
2013-02-15 10:51:43 AM  
Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.
 
2013-02-15 10:56:40 AM  

WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.


Read the below link to see why that was not an option. There would have been many injuries and maybe even deaths. 5 people were killed less than week ago during a cruise ship lifeboat lowering.

http://blog.al.com/wire/2013/02/carnival_cruise_nightmare_why.html
 
2013-02-15 10:59:49 AM  
 Jesus. I'm glad Americans of today weren't born in 15th century or we'd still think the world was flat because no one would be able to take the boat ride without biatching themselves to death. Oh noes! The luxury cruise ship stinks a little and the people have had to smell it for a couple of days while they get pulled to land. This is indeed a tragedy.

Didn't you hear?  They had to eat tomato sandwiches, for heaven's sake!  Is your heart made of stone?


I like tomato sandwiches, sounds like my kind of cruise.

/why can't I get rid of the 'bold'
//why can't I get name of the person who's message I am 'copying' to post
///what did I miss here, am also having hard time posting pictures, what has become of me?
 
2013-02-15 10:59:52 AM  
Took a three day and a five day cruise with Carnival last year.  Loved it, would do it again, would rather take a Disney cruise, but I can only afford the Ford Fiesta version, not the Cadillac.
 
2013-02-15 11:01:58 AM  
Cannibalism must have been fun.
 
2013-02-15 11:03:22 AM  

PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.


Do you remember the name of the place?

/headed thereabouts in may
 
2013-02-15 11:04:37 AM  
First off, how the hell do they not have some kind of backup system to keep the lights on, the toilets flushing and the food safe?  Backup generators can't take up that much space and if it's something like the hydraulic system has to stay pressurized to keep basic systems running then there should be some way to keep it pressurized.  I'd imagine toilet flushing power level is a lot less than ship-maneuvering power level so you wouldn't need ship-engine-sized machines to do that.  Is this a case where the designers omitted safety systems to have extra room for more passengers?  I can think of another ship where that line of thinking bit them in the butt.

Second, these ships are simply getting too large.  Suppose something really serious happened and the ship was sinking, how the hell are Coast Guard/local authorities/the Navy/whoever going to rescue that many people?  I think the cruise industry needs to do some serious self-examination.
 
2013-02-15 11:06:15 AM  
As a native mobilian i would like to extend a warm hearty fark you to subby.
 
2013-02-15 11:07:42 AM  
I took a cruise on the Triumph when it was a new ship. I've heard it's gone to shiat since then.
 
2013-02-15 11:08:11 AM  

WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.


This.

My wife and I have been on two cruises with Norwegian and are going on another (to the Carribbean, no less) that leaves on Sunday. We had a great time on the boat, and never had any real problems. On one cruise, there was a malfunction in a gyrocompass that keeps the boat's attitude constant, so the boat listed pretty hard for a few seconds, and the crew had to manually adjust attitude until we got to shore, meaning that the ride was slightly wavier that night. The problem was completely fixed by the time we left the next port.

The first thing we did when we got on the boat was a mandatory, boat-wide lifeboat drill. These ships have lifeboats that hold 30 people each, with supplies, food, engines, and shelter. The fact that these lifeboats weren't employed baffles me. It's not like they were in the middle of the Atlantic; they were in the Gulf, for crying out loud. Besides, they were trapped there for six days. You'd think they could have evacuated everyone by helicopter in that amount of time, not to mention lifeboats or other methods of evacuation.

I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.
 
2013-02-15 11:08:47 AM  
What I want to know is what were the "engineers" thinking when they design these ships? I mean, gee, we will have 6,000 people on board this boat and we'll put ALL the generators in one room, what could go wrong?
 
2013-02-15 11:12:42 AM  
Hey,  Subby, eat a bowl, preferably one from the  Triumph's galley. I get to make fun of Alabama because I am a native Alabamian. You don't.

Meanwhile, Carnival just needs to reef the  Triumph, and put it out of our misery. Better yet, Carnival needs to reef their entire fleet and return the money to their investors.
 
2013-02-15 11:13:35 AM  

DysphoricMania: What I don't get... How is this ship so messed up? I spent 4 yrs on a ship (Thank You, US Navy) and we never had anything close to the troubles cruise ships have. Do they not have repair crews or damage control crews aboard? Seems like you would want those...


Unlikely. Those ships are run with crews cut to the profit-margin bone, and most of their crew is going to be of the housekeeping and service-industry variety whose emergency training will consist of lifeboat duty and maybe CPR.

A warship, meanwhile, has to be able to take battle damage and keep fighting, and will have systems redundancies no civilian owner will pay for.
 
2013-02-15 11:15:35 AM  

Limeyluv: It was a nasty experience, but compared to what it could have been...have you seen the class of people who take cruises these days? It isn't the Queen Mary. It's college kids and hen parties heading for the 24 hour buffets. The people biatching about the lack of food were the ones who could live off their body fat for a month. Cruising is for the lazy. Take a sea kayak and paddle the mangroves.

/Feeling mean because I haven't had my tea yet.
//Maybe I'll give up sympathy for Lent


Meh, I just finished working an 8-month contract on board a Holland America Line ship. HAL is all five-star luxury cruises that cater mainly to the retiree crowd. Saw almost no one in the demographic you were talking about.
 
2013-02-15 11:19:29 AM  

ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

This.

My wife and I have been on two cruises with Norwegian and are going on another (to the Carribbean, no less) that leaves on Sunday. We had a great time on the boat, and never had any real problems. On one cruise, there was a malfunction in a gyrocompass that keeps the boat's attitude constant, so the boat listed pretty hard for a few seconds, and the crew had to manually adjust attitude until we got to shore, meaning that the ride was slightly wavier that night. The problem was completely fixed by the time we left the next port.

The first thing we did when we got on the boat was a mandatory, boat-wide lifeboat drill. These ships have lifeboats that hold 30 people each, with supplies, food, engines, and shelter. The fact that these lifeboats weren't employed baffles me. It's not like they were in the middle of the Atlantic; they were in the Gulf, for crying out loud. Besides, they were trapped there for six days. You'd think they could have evacuated everyone by helicopter in that amount of time, not to mention lifeboats or other methods of evacuation.

I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.


Do you have any idea what it costs to deploy, recover and re-certify a cruise ship's entire complement of lifeboats?

I'm betting Carnival does.
 
2013-02-15 11:21:27 AM  

ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

This.

My wife and I have been on two cruises with Norwegian and are going on another (to the Carribbean, no less) that leaves on Sunday. We had a great time on the boat, and never had any real problems. On one cruise, there was a malfunction in a gyrocompass that keeps the boat's attitude constant, so the boat listed pretty hard for a few seconds, and the crew had to manually adjust attitude until we got to shore, meaning that the ride was slightly wavier that night. The problem was completely fixed by the time we left the next port.

The first thing we did when we got on the boat was a mandatory, boat-wide lifeboat drill. These ships have lifeboats that hold 30 people each, with supplies, food, engines, and shelter. The fact that these lifeboats weren't employed baffles me. It's not like they were in the middle of the Atlantic; they were in the Gulf, for crying out loud. Besides, they were trapped there for six days. You'd think they could have evacuated everyone by helicopter in that amount of time, not to mention lifeboats or other methods of evacuation.

I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.


You really don't understand why they didn't abandon ship out in the middle of the Gulf when they weren't sinking? If you haven't realized it, the lifeboats and rafts have even less power and working toilets than the crippled ship.
 
2013-02-15 11:23:47 AM  

pag1107: First off, how the hell do they not have some kind of backup system to keep the lights on, the toilets flushing and the food safe?  Backup generators can't take up that much space and if it's something like the hydraulic system has to stay pressurized to keep basic systems running then there should be some way to keep it pressurized.  I'd imagine toilet flushing power level is a lot less than ship-maneuvering power level so you wouldn't need ship-engine-sized machines to do that.



I was wondering why Carnival didn't helicopter in some generators to run the water system? There appears to be plenty of space on the decks for something like that. Maybe they thought the ship would drift into some port quicker than it did.
 
2013-02-15 11:25:28 AM  
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/trending/People-spent-five-days-on - the-cruise-from-hell-and-all-they-got-was-500-and-a-crappy-apology.htm l

Daddy would never hurt a fly, but once he gets the snuff shakes... it's like he's not my daddy anymore, he's a MONSTER.
 
2013-02-15 11:38:35 AM  

barefoot in the head: "I want a hot shower and a daggum Whataburger"

Thank you, Mrs. Thurston Howell III


Whataburger ,  over priced and not crazy good
 
2013-02-15 11:39:20 AM  

ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: I assume Mobile has an airport.


I think it would be safe to assume that an America city with almost a half a million people would have an airport.

Mobile Alabama may be in the south, but flyover country isn't that bad.
 
2013-02-15 11:41:14 AM  
Actually there are 2 large airports in mobile. One for commercial passenger and other was exmilitary used now for freight and soon airbus construction/testing
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-15 12:03:24 PM  

WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.


Maybe because it wasn't sinking and it's much safer to stay on-board than to be drifting in a lifeboat in the gulf?
 
2013-02-15 12:08:58 PM  
Watching the video of the passengers on the deck, or getting back to land, I realize that I have not seen than many sad, fat, dumpy white people since Romney lost the election.
 
2013-02-15 12:09:48 PM  
I hope that going forward, the major cruise lines at least re-engineer their ships so there's at least a backup generator in another section of the ship so that if there's a fire in the engine room, at least basic systems can be operated.

/Has a whole house backup generator
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-02-15 12:10:18 PM  

pag1107: First off, how the hell do they not have some kind of backup system to keep the lights on, the toilets flushing and the food safe?  Backup generators can't take up that much space and if it's something like the hydraulic system has to stay pressurized to keep basic systems running then there should be some way to keep it pressurized.  I'd imagine toilet flushing power level is a lot less than ship-maneuvering power level so you wouldn't need ship-engine-sized machines to do that.  Is this a case where the designers omitted safety systems to have extra room for more passengers?  I can think of another ship where that line of thinking bit them in the butt.

Second, these ships are simply getting too large.  Suppose something really serious happened and the ship was sinking, how the hell are Coast Guard/local authorities/the Navy/whoever going to rescue that many people?  I think the cruise industry needs to do some serious self-examination.


I think the toilets are flushed with water, not electricity.  These ships have RO desalinization plants, but they are in the machinery spaces with the engines.  They do have generators, but I guess not enough to power everything.
 
2013-02-15 12:13:23 PM  

mjohnson71: ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: I assume Mobile has an airport.

I think it would be safe to assume that an America city with almost a half a million people would have an airport.

Mobile Alabama may be in the south, but flyover country isn't that bad.


I agree, but no Alabama city has a population over 250,000.
 
2013-02-15 12:24:10 PM  

vpb: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

Maybe because it wasn't sinking and it's much safer to stay on-board than to be drifting in a lifeboat in the gulf?


Fair enough. Then how come it took them five days to get tugs out to a ship that was on a trip that was only four days, round trip? Giving them one day to sail out and one day to tug them back, that's three days of what?
 
2013-02-15 12:32:32 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: I hope Carnival goes down for this. There's really no excuse for not evacuating these people, forcing them to drive to New Orleans to fly home (I assume Mobile has an airport), and then trying to pay them off with free cruises. I hope those negligent farktards get sued into bankruptcy.


Using life boats is in a do-or-die situation. They are very dangerous. And do you think life boats have farking bathrooms?

No one here got hurt. They were much safer on the ship than out at sea.
 
2013-02-15 12:34:29 PM  

emersonbiggins: mjohnson71: ExcedrinHeadache: WorkingInParadise: I assume Mobile has an airport.

I think it would be safe to assume that an America city with almost a half a million people would have an airport.

Mobile Alabama may be in the south, but flyover country isn't that bad.

I agree, but no Alabama city has a population over 250,000.


Doing a Google search various sources show Mobile the city with a population of about 200,000 but the metro area with 410,000+
 
2013-02-15 12:38:06 PM  
Hmmmm ....
Hot as heck
Sleeping in tents
Pooping in bags
Cold food to eat
No fresh water

Sounds very similar to my camping trips in the wilderness back in The Day. (On a blazing hot summer day we follow a NFS road to its end, haul in all our own food and drink, pitch the tent, dig a toilet pit, etc. And leave no trace when we left.)

At least they didn't have a ship full of Norovirus to contend with  - that WOULD have been hellish.
 
2013-02-15 12:39:35 PM  
Comment from LA times is genius:

"

I was on this ship and I want to comment on a story you will not hear on Fox or CNN!

 Okay, so we had to use those little red bags to go to the bathroom in. After the first 24 hours, all the Asians were complaining that the big fat Americans continued to gorge on huge amounts of red meat (cheese burger bar remained open 24/7) and filled the ship with putrid fumes of bodily waste. The Asians even videotaped one 300 pounder dude who wore the same Hawaii shirt x 7 days and needed 2 bags per bowel movement! The Asians then showed what looked like little rabbit pellets of their waste and compared it to the buffet lizard Americans that filled the arniva wheelborrow in just 3 or 4 cabins! This almost started a riot until the Captain decided to separate the Caucasians from the Asians...If you were Vegan, you were allowed to stay on the Asian side. I am vegan so I switched rooms with with a family from Houston Texas -All averaged 275 including the 3 kids. I just sat in my cabin watching Das Boat (the sub titled version) on my DVD player popping Zanex and eating steamed broccoli and white rice..I also smoked some cannabis I smuggled aboard in Cozumel. By the end of the cruise, I could speak decent German and I lost 12 lbs.
 
2013-02-15 12:42:25 PM  
I go to mobile a couple of times a year for work and enjoy it a lot.  Good food, very interesting places to drink, and some very interesting and fun people.  The only pain is a lot of the bars/clubs you have to be a member of to get in (I believe in order to stay open later). It is a very simple form to fill out, but a pain none the less.

As for the ship, I also cannot understand how they can allow a single point of failure like this to exist.  You have to have it so if you loose propulsion, everything else works, and if you loose everything else, you have propulsion to get you somewhere quick.
 
2013-02-15 12:43:25 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: vpb: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

Maybe because it wasn't sinking and it's much safer to stay on-board than to be drifting in a lifeboat in the gulf?

Fair enough. Then how come it took them five days to get tugs out to a ship that was on a trip that was only four days, round trip? Giving them one day to sail out and one day to tug them back, that's three days of what?


Well, at first they were gonna be towed to Mexico, but the ship had drifted too far south and they decided towing it to Alabama would be the best option. Also, tug boats are slooooooooow.
 
2013-02-15 12:58:19 PM  
Oh boy, over exaggerated hardship stories from people who would not know how to act in a real natural disaster.
 
2013-02-15 01:00:11 PM  

dk47: Comment from LA times is genius:


smartautocar.com
 
2013-02-15 01:12:22 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: StrikitRich: Maybe Carnival could put the passengers up in the Superdome?

[i0.kym-cdn.com image 350x450]

They'd at least have some beer to drink.....


that picture makes me laugh every time.  definitely my favourite internet pic of all time.  the beer in his back pocket is what does it for me i think
 
2013-02-15 01:16:01 PM  
Even better - one of the 'rescue' buses broke down on the way to New Orleans & the passengers had to wait for another bus to come pick them up.
 
2013-02-15 01:22:20 PM  
If I could sit on the deck, staring at the water with a drink and a J in the air, I'd take a cruise 4 times a year.

I suspect that the marijuana cruises out of Washington will one day be quite enjoyable.  They don't have any such thing yet though.  I checked.
 
2013-02-15 01:27:24 PM  
After seeing this pic of how much intelligence went into spelling out the word HELP.

i877.photobucket.com

I am far less inclined to put much stock into the passengers claims of the horrible conditions.
 
2013-02-15 01:32:15 PM  

sunlion: If I could sit on the deck, staring at the water with a drink and a J in the air, I'd take a cruise 4 times a year.

I suspect that the marijuana cruises out of Washington will one day be quite enjoyable.  They don't have any such thing yet though.  I checked.


"So captain, can you explain why your ship needed to load 15 tons of nachos before the cruise?"
 
2013-02-15 01:33:36 PM  
Wow.  Haven't these poor people suffered enough?
 
2013-02-15 01:39:43 PM  

basemetal: Oh boy, over exaggerated hardship stories from people who would not know how to act in a real natural disaster.


I'm reading these posts on gawker and people are acting like THIS IS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD. Some people really need to gain some perspective.

And quite honestly from what I've seen it seems that the passengers, although bored, unshowered, and inconvenienced, seem to have made the best of a bad situation. And I've heard a lot of good things about the staff there so far.
 
2013-02-15 01:41:38 PM  
My sister-in-law and her husband have been on... I think 3 cruises at like $2,000 - $3,000 each time. I know retired people who keep their passport/vaccinations etc up to date, pre-pack their bags (unpacking all the unused clothes out once a month or so to wash them) and scan the newspaper's Travel section for "we really need butts in cabins for this cruise leaving soon" deals. They end up getting to go on 8 - 10 cruises a year for the price they'd pay for ONE pre-booked cruise.

The one day I saw an ad for a cruise that was leaving in... I think 2 days and they had knocked the price down to under $200. Multi-day cruise, tons of stuff included but they needed butts in cabins really badly.  I showed the wife the ad, she saw "Entertainment: Michael Bolton" and said they'd have to pay HER $200 hehe.

I'll admit I've never been on a cruise and I'm not sure I'd enjoy it that much. I will say this, though, given how often cruise deals seem to show up these days if I was going to do a cruise I'd pre-book my holidays, get my passport/vaccinations etc and scan the paper for deals. If I go on a last-minute deal cruise and spend, say $300 - $400 for my wife and I both to go... worst case if we hate it that's not a $2,000 - $4,000 life lesson.
 
2013-02-15 01:42:51 PM  

Oztemprom: PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.

Do you remember the name of the place?

/headed thereabouts in may


Regrettably, no, but it was right before the bridge on the Mobile side.  I hit up Google after posting that this morning and the place that I think it is looks pretty run-down now.  This was back in the early nineties, and even though we stopped there around one in the afternoon, they had a guy in the dining room playing acoustic guitar.  It was a really nice ambiance and the the people working there were great.  But I have no idea if it's still that way today.
 
2013-02-15 01:44:11 PM  
I went on my first/only cruise last year with Carnival.  My only regret afterwards was that I hadn't saved up enough money to tip extra well.
 
2013-02-15 01:49:28 PM  

Oztemprom: PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.

Do you remember the name of the place?

/headed thereabouts in may


Actually, it may have been the Pelican Reef, now that I've had more time to look...
 
2013-02-15 02:08:23 PM  
Wintzell's Oyster House, The OIriginal Oyster House, Oriental Palace Chinese Restaurant, Callaghan Irish Social Club, Blues Tavern, The Shed BBQ, The Brick Pit Barbecue, Krispy Kreme DoughnutsMobile does not suck. Great food and fun bars. Fun stuff to do. The fishing there is great.
Cruise ship passengers just wanted to get home, but don't be hatin' on Mobile if you haven't been there. Bayfest is a 3 day music extravaganza with one of the cheapest tickets of all our Gulf Coast music events.
 
2013-02-15 02:13:40 PM  
went on second cruise of my life--both on carnival.  the last one was on splendor, which apparently was the other ship that had the fire in the engine room.  i took an insider tour of the ship, and can understand what probably happened as a result.

i think that if they isolated the generators and engines that at least they could have more power, and if there were ways to re-route power for systems, they may have better luck in this type of a situation.

i did get the recipe for the melting chocolate cake, but thinking of the poop on the ship may make it a while until i make the dessert.

was a lot of fun, and had some of the best pastrami i had in a long time.
 
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2013-02-15 02:15:13 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: vpb: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

Maybe because it wasn't sinking and it's much safer to stay on-board than to be drifting in a lifeboat in the gulf?

Fair enough. Then how come it took them five days to get tugs out to a ship that was on a trip that was only four days, round trip? Giving them one day to sail out and one day to tug them back, that's three days of what?


I would imagine that tugs large enough to pull a 100,000 ton ship aren't that common, and they don't go very fast.
 
2013-02-15 02:20:25 PM  

PainInTheASP: Oztemprom: PainInTheASP: I was in Mobile a couple of times about twenty years ago.  Nice town, there was a little seafood restaurant on the Dauphin Island bridge road that served the BEST freakin lobster I think I've ever had.

Do you remember the name of the place?

/headed thereabouts in may

Regrettably, no, but it was right before the bridge on the Mobile side.  I hit up Google after posting that this morning and the place that I think it is looks pretty run-down now.  This was back in the early nineties, and even though we stopped there around one in the afternoon, they had a guy in the dining room playing acoustic guitar.  It was a really nice ambiance and the the people working there were great.  But I have no idea if it's still that way today.


Pelican point?
 
2013-02-15 02:30:35 PM  
Getting a kick out of all the butthurt Alabamans in this thread.

/ why so defensive?
// it hurts because it's true?
 
2013-02-15 02:46:29 PM  
profile.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2013-02-15 03:04:02 PM  

Akabander: Getting a kick out of all the butthurt Alabamans in this thread.

/ why so defensive?
// it hurts because it's true?


I live in New Orleans and Destin, FL. Not a 'butthurt Alabamans'. Ask me if I would have rather been down here on the Coast last week rather than up in Maryland. Do crab cakes make you crabby?

1/10 because I did bite on your troll.
 
2013-02-15 03:06:56 PM  

sunlion: If I could sit on the deck, staring at the water with a drink and a J in the air, I'd take a cruise 4 times a year.

I suspect that the marijuana cruises out of Washington will one day be quite enjoyable.  They don't have any such thing yet though.  I checked.


I'm holding out for the Colorado Cruises
 
2013-02-15 03:54:26 PM  

WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.


What would that have solved?  Rather than e adrift in a cruise ship with food, water, and shelter you want to drop all the passengers in lifeboats and set them adrift, still with no bathroom facilties, limited food & water, risk of exposure to the sun, elements and weather.
 
2013-02-15 03:57:57 PM  

sunlion: I suspect that the marijuana cruises out of Washington will one day be quite enjoyable. They don't have any such thing yet though. I checked.


The Coast Guard would be lying in wait for them if they tried it now.
 
2013-02-15 04:40:31 PM  

ExcedrinHeadache: vpb: WorkingInParadise: Every cruise ship has lifeboats. Why weren't they deployed? I don't understand the decision to NOT evacuate the ship.

Maybe because it wasn't sinking and it's much safer to stay on-board than to be drifting in a lifeboat in the gulf?

Fair enough. Then how come it took them five days to get tugs out to a ship that was on a trip that was only four days, round trip? Giving them one day to sail out and one day to tug them back, that's three days of what?


"One day to tug them back"

No no, tugs got to the ship on Tuesday.  When you're towing a ship, it's a low process.  You're only going to be going 8 knots at the max, especially with something so big in the open ocean.  Going faster is too much of a risk.
 
2013-02-15 06:00:03 PM  
That headline would have been apt/funny if you'd just said Alabama. Mobile's the only part of Alabama that's actually livable and not filled with redneck assholes.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:20 PM  

mbillips: That headline would have been apt/funny if you'd just said Alabama. Mobile's the only part of Alabama that's actually livable and not filled with redneck assholes.


Huntsville, Muscle Shoals

Their was an insurrection in the North of Alabama because they did not want to fight the Union on behalf of the capitalists.
 
2013-02-15 09:09:38 PM  
They should've at least stopped for the throwed rolls on their way to New Orleans.
 
2013-02-15 09:25:19 PM  

SCUBA_Archer: They should've at least stopped for the throwed rolls on their way to New Orleans.


Throwed rolls are at Lambert's in Foley, AL (Also in Missouri) on the way to Gulf Shores/Orange Beach...about 40 miles outside of downtown Mobile. They're delicious. The Dahnkster is all over the Gulf Coast.
 
2013-02-16 12:12:51 AM  
Who knew that sailing on a ship registered with a maginally effective government might be problematic.
 
2013-02-16 06:54:43 AM  

FuturePastNow: A warship, meanwhile, has to be able to take battle damage and keep fighting, and will have systems redundancies no civilian owner will pay for.


That, and Hyman Rickover didn't work for Carnival Cruises...
 
2013-02-16 01:41:52 PM  

chewielouie: In before poor Farkers, who have never been on a cruise (or only cheap ass lame ones) comment about how cruises suck, the ships are overcrowded, the food is terrible, etc., and how they would never go on one. We get it, you're poor and it sucks being you.



That's funny...!  pretty sure it's the opposite. People with money go off by themselves, rent cars/planes, hop Hyatts and take their time at relatively isolated and gorgeous destinations under the auspices of a personal guide.  People who don't have money get herded with thousands of other people through tacky, tourist dependent coastal areas; they're just middle class people who are made to feel rich when they're granted simple luxuries like unlimited drinks and a free breakfast.  Of course, when you take these luxuries away they quickly realize they're with a thousand other poor people sitting in a gaudy boat covered in sh&t.
 
2013-02-16 10:44:48 PM  

ayretise: That's funny...! pretty sure it's the opposite. People with money go off by themselves, rent cars/planes, hop Hyatts and take their time at relatively isolated and gorgeous destinations under the auspices of a personal guide. People who don't have money get herded with thousands of other people through tacky, tourist dependent coastal areas; they're just middle class people who are made to feel rich when they're granted simple luxuries like unlimited drinks and a free breakfast. Of course, when you take these luxuries away they quickly realize they're with a thousand other poor people sitting in a gaudy boat covered in sh&t.


Exactly.  What wealthy people don't do is pay a company to imprison them in what amounts to a mid-market hotel where you will drown if you step outside the front door.

It would take a lot of money to convince me to board one of these floating dysentery wards.... and even if you bribed me into taking a cruise, I'd find somebody who would take half of the money to go in my place.
 
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