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2013-02-15 06:41:25 AM
Ha!
 
2013-02-15 09:33:21 AM
In the syllabus, the professor allegedly says, "The tagline Fox News makes me cringe."

fox news did have a court room slap fight to confirm that they've got the legal right to lie to their audience.  And they use that 'right' every chance they get.  so...yeah.  I can see why a Professor might have a problem with their organization.
 
2013-02-15 10:10:35 AM
The sad thing is, is that The Onion is more accurate than Fox News.
 
2013-02-15 10:13:51 AM
I don't know why anyone would ever cite them for anything to begin with. Presumably any actual event they covered would just be an AP story.
 
2013-02-15 10:17:19 AM
Footnotes:

1) Ibid: Ibid  Ibid: Ibid: Ibid Ibid: Ibid  Ibid: Ibid: Ibid:
 
2013-02-15 10:27:36 AM

DamnYankees: I don't know why anyone would ever cite them for anything to begin with. Presumably any actual event they covered would just be an AP story.


It's their opinion masked as fact way of reporting.
 
2013-02-15 10:38:27 AM
Can't indoctrinate the kids if you let them read what they want, now can you?

Not surprising to see the Fark libs cheering this - they're all closet fascists anyway.  And the first thing a fascist does when he takes power is limit the information to propaganda.

"One of our values at West Liberty is to encourage students to go out and inquire and gather information and look at as many different sources as possible on any side, before you reach your opinion," said Robin Capehart, president of West Liberty University.

Whatever you say, Stalin.
 
2013-02-15 10:45:40 AM
so FWD:FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: FWD: emails are still acceptable sources?
 
2013-02-15 10:54:51 AM

Lsherm: Can't indoctrinate the kids if you let them read what they want, now can you?

Not surprising to see the Fark libs cheering this - they're all closet fascists anyway.  And the first thing a fascist does when he takes power is limit the information to propaganda.

"One of our values at West Liberty is to encourage students to go out and inquire and gather information and look at as many different sources as possible on any side, before you reach your opinion," said Robin Capehart, president of West Liberty University.

Whatever you say, Stalin.


Wait, we can't be fascist and Stalinist! Either were commies or fascist-two totally different ideology!
 
2013-02-15 11:02:00 AM
can i still cite comments from a free republic thread that is discussing a fox news article or is that not good enough for the ivory towered elites at west liberty university either?
 
2013-02-15 11:06:17 AM
I think some of you are forgetting what kids in college use for sources.  I've seen people credit angelfire.com personal pages as if they were as credible as medical journals.  Some of my professors banned any kind of citation that wasn't specifically literary. 

I'd love to see the list of what else she banned.  For all we know, it could include other outright-lying news organizations, from the other side too.

Overall,

pjmedia.com
 
2013-02-15 11:08:16 AM

Lsherm: Can't indoctrinate the kids if you let them read what they want, now can you?

Not surprising to see the Fark libs cheering this - they're all closet fascists anyway.  And the first thing a fascist does when he takes power is limit the information to propaganda.

"One of our values at West Liberty is to encourage students to go out and inquire and gather information and look at as many different sources as possible on any side, before you reach your opinion," said Robin Capehart, president of West Liberty University.

Whatever you say, Stalin.


Which is why they should get all their information from Faux News.
 
2013-02-15 11:09:51 AM
Because college students (at least freshmen in general) lack the ability to know when somebody's outright lying to them, college professors have to put a little bit of guidance in.

No, sonny, you can't credit Wikipedia on that topic.  I'm afraid you're going to have to learn about the Dewey Decimal system now...
 
2013-02-15 11:13:24 AM

Lsherm: Can't indoctrinate the kids if you let them read what they want, now can you?

Not surprising to see the Fark libs cheering this - they're all closet fascists anyway.  And the first thing a fascist does when he takes power is limit the information to propaganda.

"One of our values at West Liberty is to encourage students to go out and inquire and gather information and look at as many different sources as possible on any side, before you reach your opinion," said Robin Capehart, president of West Liberty University.

Whatever you say, Stalin.


I think it's pretty telling that you don't consider "a gut feeling" sufficient grounds for a citation, libtard.  Why don't you go watch the Newshour with Jim Lehrer on your precious PBS.
 
2013-02-15 11:17:39 AM
ts3.mm.bing.net

go fox go !
 
2013-02-15 11:19:15 AM

vicioushobbit: Because college students (at least freshmen in general) lack the ability to know when somebody's outright lying to them, college professors have to put a little bit of guidance in.

No, sonny, you can't credit Wikipedia on that topic.  I'm afraid you're going to have to learn about the Dewey Decimal system now...


I'm currently a grad student.  You'd be surprised by the number of graduate students who never go into the library.  They'll spend all day and night searching online for a relevant resource, but they never think to go into the library and actually check out a book.
 
2013-02-15 11:19:42 AM
And due to the butthurt of the retarded conservative students and their equally mentally challenged parents, the professor lifted the ban.
 
2013-02-15 11:19:46 AM
It is important for students to learn that sites which have purely fictitious stories are not taken seriously by professionals.  But I would like to argue that parody sites like the Onion say what we were thinking anyway, but were too polite to mention.

Using Fox news as a source is like asking a wandering homeless person their opinion of the people who keep following them and persecuting them which is why they talk to themselves with angry gestures.
 
2013-02-15 11:21:59 AM
Are we still pretending that Fox News is a credible news outlet and not a propaganda machine?
 
2013-02-15 11:22:10 AM
I don't believe the mainstream media.  I get my sources only from fringe media like Fox News.
 
2013-02-15 11:22:50 AM
Students are also encouraged to construct multi-sentence paragraphs.
 
2013-02-15 11:23:08 AM
But Jon Stewart is a fine way to get your news.
 
2013-02-15 11:23:13 AM
Fox News, a professional news organization

Since when has FOX News been a news organization?
 
2013-02-15 11:23:20 AM

Lsherm: Can't indoctrinate the kids if you let them read what they want, now can you?

Not surprising to see the Fark libs cheering this - they're all closet fascists anyway.  And the first thing a fascist does when he takes power is limit the information to propaganda.

"One of our values at West Liberty is to encourage students to go out and inquire and gather information and look at as many different sources as possible on any side, before you reach your opinion," said Robin Capehart, president of West Liberty University.

Whatever you say, Stalin.


Hey look everyone, it's an idiot. Say hello to the idiot, everybody!
 
2013-02-15 11:24:45 AM
saint Ronald Reagan removes the truth in news laws and automatically breeds a couple of generations of retarded republicans.who foam at the mouth as they keep blaming dem libs and der socialisms for making their welfare checks late.
 
2013-02-15 11:24:54 AM
They also said Wolfe has gone back to the class and lifted any limitation on research sources

I personally would allow FOX News as a source, but I would drop the paper at least one grade level for each reference.

/goes double for MSNBC
 
2013-02-15 11:26:09 AM
westliberty.edu

Gaze upon the embodiment of Fox News Derangement Syndrome.

/Looks like a younger and less attractive version of the Church Lady. I bet she is a real hell cat in the sack, though.
 
2013-02-15 11:26:22 AM

Lsherm: Can't indoctrinate the kids if you let them read what they want, now can you?

Not surprising to see the Fark libs cheering this - they're all closet fascists anyway.  And the first thing a fascist does when he takes power is limit the information to propaganda.

"One of our values at West Liberty is to encourage students to go out and inquire and gather information and look at as many different sources as possible on any side, before you reach your opinion," said Robin Capehart, president of West Liberty University.

Whatever you say, Stalin.


Can you detect the unintentional irony?
 
2013-02-15 11:28:12 AM

Cobataiwan: But Jon Stewart is a fine way to get your news.


i would assume that transcripts from the daily show would be equally unacceptable as a source
 
2013-02-15 11:28:23 AM
Marcus Aurelius
Fox News, a professional news organization

Since when has FOX News been a news organization?


Yeah. Like Weaver95 mentioned - weren't FOX lawyers the ones who were successfully arguing in court that FOX is providing entertainment and not news?
 
2013-02-15 11:28:37 AM
Fark the parents. These "kids" are (mostly) legal adults. Whatever the parents think is irrelevant unless they are in the class as well.

Fark the students. If they don't like the terms can drop the class. I once had an 8:00 class where the prof said no eating and drinking in class on the first day. I took a different professor the next semester; there was no way I was functioning at 8:00 without coffee.

Quit whining when someone doesn't like what you like.
 
2013-02-15 11:29:52 AM
I think it depends on the context of how you're using the source. I have cited sources that are manifestly absurd and deceitful sources (e.g. Michael Behe and other creationists when writing about science education) because they served as illustrative examples of the point I was trying to make, and not because I in any way support or endorse their views. I could easily see the same use for citing any news media, whether it be Fox or CNN or whatever.
 
2013-02-15 11:30:31 AM

The Voice of Doom: Marcus Aurelius
Fox News, a professional news organization

Since when has FOX News been a news organization?

Yeah. Like Weaver95 mentioned - weren't FOX lawyers the ones who were successfully arguing in court that FOX is providing entertainment and not news?


And aren't they banned from referring to themselves as a "news" organization in Canada?  (I think Canada)
 
2013-02-15 11:32:04 AM
Later in the syllabus it goes on to mention that students should not abuse white space to make their fact-sparse articles look bigger than they really are.
 
2013-02-15 11:32:22 AM

halfof33: [westliberty.edu image 209x314]

Gaze upon the embodiment of Fox News Derangement Syndrome.

/Looks like a younger and less attractive version of the Church Lady. I bet she is a real hell cat in the sack, though.


yanno, for someone who claims to not watch Fox News, you were sure quick to this thread
 
Nai
2013-02-15 11:33:19 AM
http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

"The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves. "

Just sayin...
 
2013-02-15 11:34:01 AM
I never read/view Fox News
Like it or not it's a news source and some of its work is perfectly acceptable.
Do they still have all the red, white, and blue graphics?
 
2013-02-15 11:34:23 AM

Zachery: Later in the syllabus it goes on to mention that students should not abuse white space to make their fact-sparse articles look bigger than they really are.


Thank you for mentioning that.  I had a English prof. that made us write a 20 page paper all in single space.  Gah.
 
2013-02-15 11:34:53 AM

The Voice of Doom: Marcus Aurelius
Fox News, a professional news organization

Since when has FOX News been a news organization?

Yeah. Like Weaver95 mentioned - weren't FOX lawyers the ones who were successfully arguing in court that FOX is providing entertainment and not news?


something like that.  the point being that Fox news went to court to prove they had a legal right to flat out lie to their audience...and they won the case.  so...why would you want to listen to an organization that actually put down real money in a real court case to confirm that they've got a legal right to lie to you?

I just don't understand the Republicans anymore.  they LOVE to be lied too and abused.  makes no damn sense if you ask me.
 
2013-02-15 11:36:11 AM

Nai: http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

"The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves. "

Just sayin...


it's funny that in a thread about biased sources, you post a link to a site called "foxnewsboycott.com"
 
2013-02-15 11:39:08 AM

mudesi: Are we still pretending that Fox News is a credible news outlet and not a propaganda machine?


Well I've always operated under the assumption that Fox was owned by a group of powerful people that are more right leaning and MSNBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NYT, ect. are owned and operated by a coordinated democratic propaganda machine.  I mean it is fairly easy to see just by the way they talk.  CNN has a long history of made up stories as well as covered up stuff that they should have reported.  I don't watch enough of either to know if FOX is any worse or better.  I suppose your opinion depends on if you are a right or left winger.

That is why I get my news from FARK.  :-)
 
2013-02-15 11:40:17 AM

Weaver95: The Voice of Doom: Marcus Aurelius
Fox News, a professional news organization

Since when has FOX News been a news organization?

Yeah. Like Weaver95 mentioned - weren't FOX lawyers the ones who were successfully arguing in court that FOX is providing entertainment and not news?

something like that.  the point being that Fox news went to court to prove they had a legal right to flat out lie to their audience...and they won the case.  so...why would you want to listen to an organization that actually put down real money in a real court case to confirm that they've got a legal right to lie to you?

I just don't understand the Republicans anymore.  they LOVE to be lied too and abused.  makes no damn sense if you ask me.


Truth doesn't matter.

Fantasy is more attractive than reality.
 
Nai
2013-02-15 11:41:27 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre  - Wiki is also considered not a good resouce, per the article :)

http://reason.com/archives/2006/05/05/the-strange-case-of-steve-wils   - kind of a libertarian slant, so not sure if it's considered a good resource either...

http://current.com/community/93886320_fox-news-banned-in-canada-its- il legal-to-broadcast-lies-and-label-it-news-according-to-canadian-law.ht m  - but this is Canadian.. and well.. your girlfriend sent it to you, so it's totally bogus...
 
2013-02-15 11:42:15 AM

The Voice of Doom: Marcus Aurelius
Fox News, a professional news organization

Since when has FOX News been a news organization?

Yeah. Like Weaver95 mentioned - weren't FOX lawyers the ones who were successfully arguing in court that FOX is providing entertainment and not news?


I do seem to recall that.
 
2013-02-15 11:43:03 AM

The Bestest: yanno, for someone who claims to not watch Fox News, you were sure quick to this thread


I dunno, there were lots of the Syndrome sufferers here long before me.

But again folks, lets try not to make every thread about me, mmmm'kay?  I mean it is flattering and all, but 16.5 Derangement Syndrome is getting as boring as Fox News Derangement Syndrome.

 

Nai: http://foxnewsboycott.com/resources/fox-can-lie-lawsuit/

"The attorneys for Fox, owned by media baron Rupert Murdoch, argued the First Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves. "

Just sayin...


That is a complete fabrication, and you should feel bad for posting that garbage:

http://www.campaignfreedom.org/2009/11/03/fox-lies-videotape-debunki ng -an-internet-myth/
 
2013-02-15 11:43:31 AM

Kome: I think it depends on the context of how you're using the source. I have cited sources that are manifestly absurd and deceitful sources (e.g. Michael Behe and other creationists when writing about science education) because they served as illustrative examples of the point I was trying to make, and not because I in any way support or endorse their views. I could easily see the same use for citing any news media, whether it be Fox or CNN or whatever.


Pretty much my opinion as well. I think I understand what the prof is getting at (garbage citations), but I think his aims would be better suited by requiring students to take a course in Critical Thinking, to install a BS detector in each of them. This would also tend to weed out the most egregious left-wing sites as sources as well. Fox news can serve as an illustrative example of a particular media niche market being manipulated to certain political ends that benefit a particular party, and as a demonstration of how political speech can be distorted for the same ends.
 
2013-02-15 11:44:48 AM

Weaver95: something like that. the point being that Fox news went to court to prove they had a legal right to flat out lie to their audience...a


False.

0/10
 
2013-02-15 11:45:00 AM

halfof33: The Bestest: yanno, for someone who claims to not watch Fox News, you were sure quick to this thread

I dunno, there were lots of the Syndrome sufferers here long before me.

But again folks, lets try not to make every thread about me, mmmm'kay?  I mean it is flattering and all, but 16.5 Derangement Syndrome is getting as boring as Fox News Derangement Syndrome.


you should probably stop trolling the thread, then people would go back to ignoring you.  incidentally - what's your take on Fox News?  do you consider them a valid source of information, equal to say...CNN or MSNBC?
 
2013-02-15 11:45:04 AM
Forgot to mention MSNBC and the Huffington Post ?
 
2013-02-15 11:45:08 AM

mudesi: Are we still pretending that Fox News is a credible news outlet and not a propaganda machine?


Well, LSherm is, anyway...
 
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