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(The Atlantic)   James Fallows does us a solid, fully annotates Obama's State of the Union address   (theatlantic.com) divider line 20
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2013-02-15 11:14:28 AM  
I want to see the Jerome Corsi/WND annotated version.

For shiats and giggles.
 
2013-02-15 11:14:40 AM  
Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.
 
2013-02-15 11:24:28 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: I want to see the Jerome Corsi/WND annotated version.

For shiats and giggles.


Here it is:

Kenyan Usurper! Alinsky! Marxism! Worse than Hitler!
 
2013-02-15 11:55:51 AM  
Can someone tell me how the annotations look on a smart phone? Do you have to tap the words or something? Those floating annotations are notorious for working differently in different browsers, floating off to one side, can't be read, etc. (not just on phones).
 
2013-02-15 12:46:13 PM  
"They deserve a vote." pretty much is the money shot. What else?
 
2013-02-15 12:47:45 PM  
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2013-02-15 01:13:38 PM  

Copperbelly watersnake: Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.


Is that Back East slang? I've heard it elsewhere, but I feel like the first place was a co-worker from Long Island.

/like waiting ONline instead of IN line.
 
2013-02-15 02:19:44 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Copperbelly watersnake: Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.

Is that Back East slang? I've heard it elsewhere, but I feel like the first place was a co-worker from Long Island.

/like waiting ONline instead of IN line.


I heard it first in 200 or so when I went to school out east.  I use it in casual conversation now, but most of my regional friends haven't heard of it.

Don't even get me started in "queuing up".
 
2013-02-15 02:21:48 PM  

TelemonianAjax: Empty Matchbook: Copperbelly watersnake: Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.

Is that Back East slang? I've heard it elsewhere, but I feel like the first place was a co-worker from Long Island.

/like waiting ONline instead of IN line.

I heard it first in 200 or so when I went to school out east.  I use it in casual conversation now, but most of my regional friends haven't heard of it.

Don't even get me started in "queuing up".


WOW! You are old.
 
2013-02-15 02:27:01 PM  

neversubmit: TelemonianAjax: Empty Matchbook: Copperbelly watersnake: Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.

Is that Back East slang? I've heard it elsewhere, but I feel like the first place was a co-worker from Long Island.

/like waiting ONline instead of IN line.

I heard it first in 200 or so when I went to school out east.  I use it in casual conversation now, but most of my regional friends haven't heard of it.

Don't even get me started in "queuing up".

WOW! You are old.


Like a fine wine.
 
2013-02-15 02:29:10 PM  
By the lack of comments in this thread I'm going to assume TFA was TL;DR.
 
2013-02-15 02:32:13 PM  

TelemonianAjax: neversubmit: TelemonianAjax: Empty Matchbook: Copperbelly watersnake: Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.

Is that Back East slang? I've heard it elsewhere, but I feel like the first place was a co-worker from Long Island.

/like waiting ONline instead of IN line.

I heard it first in 200 or so when I went to school out east.  I use it in casual conversation now, but most of my regional friends haven't heard of it.

Don't even get me started in "queuing up".

WOW! You are old.

Like a fine wine.


Turns to vinegar when exposed to the elements?
 
2013-02-15 02:39:01 PM  
I love James Fallows so much. I want him to be the godfather of my children and such.
 
2013-02-15 02:39:52 PM  
Totally did not mean to rhyme that...
 
2013-02-15 02:40:43 PM  

Arkanaut: By the lack of comments in this thread I'm going to assume TFA was TL;DR.


The entire text of the SOTU, plus annotations every few sentences.

It's an interesting read, but if you're at work, it's a time commitment you probably can't make just yet.

/I'm having a very slow day before the holiday weekend. =D
 
2013-02-15 02:58:24 PM  
I haven't read the whole thing yet, but I am struck by his take on the following paragraph from the speech:


I realize that tax reform and entitlement reform won't be easy. The politics will be hard for both sides.  None of us will get 100 percent of what we want  [ab].  But the alternative will cost us jobs, hurt our economy, and visit hardship on millions of hardworking Americans.  So let's set party interests aside, and work to pass a budget that replaces reckless cuts with smart savings and wise investments in our future.  And let's do it without the brinksmanship that stresses consumers and scares off investors.  The greatest nation on Earth cannot keep conducting its business by drifting from one manufactured crisis to the next.  [ac]   Let's agree, right here, right now, to keep the people's government open, pay our bills on time, and always uphold the full faith and credit of the United States of America  [ad].  The American people have worked too hard, for too long, rebuilding from one crisis to see their elected officials cause another.


His note  [AD] below is what really sticks with me. I need a video of this moment to send to all my annoying Republican relatives who post crap on facebook about how Democrats are damaging this country.


[ab]
For the record: Camera pans to Rep. Eric Cantor for this line.
[ac]
One of the clearest partisan-divide moments. Biden and all the Democrats shoot out of their chairs and cheer. Boehner  sits expressionless and does not clap.
[ad]
Now this is remarkable. One of the tricks of SOTU drafting is to construct sentences that force the other side to join in the applause, because you've ended the sentence on some "U-S-A! U-S-A!" type of line. Which is what Obama has done here: Who can possibly be against upholding the full faith and credit of the United States? The remarkable part is that the congressional GOP has decided it is not going to applaud this line. So we have the odd spectacle of Democrats, led by Biden, up and cheering for America paying its bills -- while the speaker of the House and other members of his party remain seated and un-applauding.
 
2013-02-15 03:30:19 PM  
I thought it was a good speech. This guy mostly points out who's standing and cheering (Dems) and who isn't (Repubs) when different lines are hit. He also points out the various rhetorical tricks used to move the speech along. But for whatever reason, he doesn't seem to know much about the actual policy positions that Obama is alluding to in a lot of his comments. I mean, the Medicare bit about the same amount of savings - that's pretty clearly the $700B efficiency reforms that were also in Ryan's budget and were part of the attacks on ACA and during the campaign.

There's also the bit about higher education, reviewing affordability and value. Now, this one is a bit tougher to dig for, but about 3 minutes of googling came up with the National Advisory Committee on Institutional Quality and Integrity, which put out a pretty detailed white paper last year about the feds stepping in to have more to do with accrediting colleges and universities. See, the problem right now is that there's accrediting agencies who determine which schools are accredited, based on all sorts of criteria. Those accrediting agencies are, in turn, approved by this NACIQI. So there's this extra level of bureaucracy, sort of - the feds approve the accrediting boards, and then the accrediting boards approve the schools. Once a school is accredited, the feds don't really have any oversight - they're just supposed to cough up the financial aid. What Obama is proposing here, and what the NACIQI had proposed previously, is that financial aid from the feds should only go to schools that aren't wasting it - either the feds should directly be able to review the schools for that "affordability and value" or it should be a significant criteria used by the accreditation boards.

This goes part and parcel with Obama's efficiency drive in just about every area of government - we need to spend money on this stuff, but we need to be sure the money is going to the right place (except banks, who can have whatever they want). To that end, we need to review the level of care offered by doctors who are paid by Medicare, we need to review the quality of education provided by schools that get financial aid, and we need to review the benefits of all of these military projects that we're just throwing money at. So yeah, there's a bit of obscurity in what he's proposing, but it's based off the same principles he's consistently espoused - let's keep an eye on where the money's going, instead of just throwing dollar bills at problems.
 
2013-02-15 04:53:14 PM  

Arkanaut: By the lack of comments in this thread I'm going to assume TFA was TL;DR.


It was TL;DR before it even got to thing it was supposed to be about.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:00 PM  
I just hope he did this on Lotus Agenda.
 
2013-02-16 11:53:45 PM  

TelemonianAjax: Empty Matchbook: Copperbelly watersnake: Does us a solid? That sounds unpleasent.

Is that Back East slang? I've heard it elsewhere, but I feel like the first place was a co-worker from Long Island.

/like waiting ONline instead of IN line.

I heard it first in 200 or so when I went to school out east.  I use it in casual conversation now, but most of my regional friends haven't heard of it.

Don't even get me started in "queuing up".


Dude, that's hardcore, especially with the Han dynasty in decline and the renewed threat of barbarian hordes stemming from the Xiongnu nomads reuniting.  I bet you've got some wicked stories.  ;P
 
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