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2013-02-15 11:42:26 AM
5 votes:
FTFA: "it's almost like an excuse to do nothing. It's like societal nihilism, where nothing matters."

No one at U of M is claiming nothing matters. Since you're the one claiming 'nothing matters,' maybe you're the "social nihilist," Ms. Reactionary Dumbass.
2013-02-15 05:57:29 PM
2 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit:

Actually, absolutely insane stuff happens when you write stuff down and rely on that. Some farktard is going to rail against anything that doesn't quite fit in with the "written word of GAWD", which some other farktard told them is unchanging and infallible. This leaves very little room for a greater understanding of the world around you if it doesn't fully agree with written lore, and it leaves very little room for spiritual growth outside the confines of that written lore. . .


I really hadn't thought about it that way. Maintaining an oral mythology would be more conducive to an ongoing conversation about the nature of reality and the human condition rather than an institutionalization of thought and ritual..

The problem is, what if pagans from back in the day totally new how to deal with todays problems, but they didn't write it down? But I guess we're having the opposite problem; christians and muslims today insisting that those people back in the day totally knew how to deal with today's problems.

I guess my question is: how do we find that balance between advancing the conversation while keeping it inclusive and also remembering where we've been?
2013-02-15 12:50:48 PM
2 votes:

cgraves67: Easter is tied to Passover which is based on the lunar cycle.


Everything Christian is tied to lunar cycles, because the Romans finally defeated Christianity by replacing it with their sun worshiping.

Sun dies on the southern cross during the winter solstice, remains 'dead' for 3 days, and is reborn for the next year on or around December 25th. All the tales of Jesus in the bible are allegories for the sun passing through the different zodiacal signs and other astrological events. I could go on, but any Christians probably already stopped reading anyway.

/behold, the great deception
2013-02-15 12:43:57 PM
2 votes:

syberpud: TheBigJerk: Weaver95: ya know...I kinda like the pagans.  every time I go to one of their events there's good food and decent-to-awesome beer.  And there's almost never any black magic orgies.

shiat, the black magic orgies are the best part.

/predictable joke

Wicca does have the advantage of having a god that is older than christianity's god, while being FAR more up-to-date in terms of religion's role in modern society.

That's because Wiccans basically invented in the modern era.  Taking what they liked and leaving what they didn't.


Taking what they like and leaving what they don't = every religion ever.
2013-02-15 12:33:01 PM
2 votes:
Asking professors to respect obscure holidays that students may or may not even observe?

That's a little silly.

FOX News' outrage over how non-Christians could  DARE consider their backwards traditions worthy of equal treatment?

Significantly worse.
2013-02-15 12:11:46 PM
2 votes:

not_an_indigo: Wicca is less than a century old.


yes "wicca" came about in the 60s the 1960s. But (and I love this part) they have traditions dating back to the dawn of time.

So, I'm going to start a cult to Bruce Campbell and include human sacrifice. Yeah it will be a new religion but it will have traditions dating back to the dawn of time.
2013-02-15 11:44:57 AM
2 votes:

Jim_Callahan: Christians have to do homework over their biggest holiday


Actually, a lot of public school systems in the US have traditionally given Good Friday off.  One of my Pagan friends working in the public school system is always pissed he has to work on Yule (december solstice) but has to take the Christian holiday off---precisely when he'd rather be working.
2013-02-15 11:39:53 AM
2 votes:
No.  Also, fark off.

Christians have to do homework over their biggest holiday (Easter-- hell, if it's during spring break and they're getting a real degree it's not so much "spring break" as "spring bigger project worth more of the grade than usual week, hope you weren't planning to go anywhere"), and no one gives special allowances for holidays tied to non-stupid institutions like president's day and so on.  OK, maybe calling the US government "non-stupid" is a stretch, but it's leaps and bounds up on religion and we're not giving extensions on the weekly assignments for memorial day (unless it's actually due the day class is out, I guess, but who makes the homework due on monday?).

You are not special, do your homework and go away.

//Or don't do it.  It's College, if you can pass the finals and use the grade rubric we give you to bring everything up to passing level without doing any homework whatsoever then welcome to the real world, if you achieve the stated objectives then you get the grade we said you would, more power to you.  You're not pulling anything clever over on us, if we design the course so that you only have to do half the homework to make a B then we're perfectly fine with you doing only half the homework if all you want is a B, no damned skin off our nose.
2013-02-15 10:37:42 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: This story gets better.

Needless to say, the Fox News article took certain liberties with the truth.  The diversity guide was just an information source talking about different cultures' holidays and suggested that faculty take that into account when scheduling.  A Junior Brietbart in the School of Journalism wrote a story about it for a right-wing website and then Fox News stole it and rewrote it without attribution.

Link to Columbia Missourian with statements from Mizzou
Original story (The College Fix)


Thanks for posting the link to the original story. I'm not sure which part of the line "These statistics beg the question: why put both Christianity and Wiccans in equipollency?" I should be more disturbed by. Both spiritual viewpoints are equally valid and I find it disturbing that Christopher White person fails to realize that. However, they also misused "begs the question", which annoys me. I'm a chef, for pity's sake, and even I know that phrase doesn't mean what it's being used to mean.

Ah, well. The English language changes all the time, and I guess this is one I'm going to have to get used to hearing.

bunner: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I don't view shifting your views as falling down a hole, let alone the same hole over and over.

My word, dear.  Who would?


Plenty of people would and do. They just refer to it as "flip flopping" or "being indecisive". I guess part of it depends on if you view change as a positive thing or a negative thing.
2013-02-15 09:06:03 PM
1 votes:

bunner: Real Women Drink Akvavit: There ya go! All fixxored.

Yes, Lord knows no tribe of illiterates ever pillories somebody for stealing a yak or marrying outside of the tribe.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Especially when you keep in mind that spirituality is deeply personal and spiritual growth, experiences and the path one takes will be very different between individuals

I've got a funny feeling that a great deal of that notion is more based on vanity and tailoring your "growth experience" to what you already hold to be that which is spiritual.  I may be mistaken.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: If the goal is spiritual growth through exploration and at least an attempt at understanding, you're going to be much more flexible

and of course, if the goal is to keep people from falling down the same hole, over and over, in the name of spirituality, because you already know what's at the bottom, it may be that a bit of structure is a lot more useful than not.Real Women Drink Akvavit: I feel that would deny the very obvious fact that spirituality is so deeply personal if any faith path expects all to believe and feel the same thing. It simply isn't possible without destroying (or inhibiting) the personal spiritual growth most religious types are seeking in the first place.

And I feel, personally, that the very notion that God only talks to ME.  Whether you are frocked in the raiments or some schmuck in a Judas Priest T-shirt, is sort of the problem.


I'm sure some people of the old faiths did do nasty things in the name of faith, but things like wholesale slaughter/punishments had nothing to do with religion at all when it comes to my ancestors. We have no concept of "sin" at all (there are honorable and dishonorable behaviors and how behaviors are viewed is situational) and we are also not our naughty bits, we are defined by our abilities and our deeds, so there are no set gender roles, either.

I also was not raised Heathen and had no preconceived notions, so it's not that I'm vain or walked toward what I already viewed as spiritual at all. I was completely unfamiliar with any of the Germanic Heathen paths when I started studying them. I've stayed with them as they've helped me the most and feel more natural and true to me than any other path I've studied - or tried to as some faith paths don't like people who ask questions. We do. We're also usually the ones asking questions - constantly. Sometimes we get the answer, sometimes nobody knows. That's fine, too.

I don't view shifting your views as falling down a hole, let alone the same hole over and over. While some structure is helpful, too much and you lose the chance for further spiritual exploration because with highly structured environments come boundaries I do not feel have any place in spirituality. I'm also not sure if any god or goddess talks to anyone at all, let alone "just to me". I'm a polytheist, but I'm also agnostic.

Finally, who the fark would be caught in a Judus Priest t-shirt? They're not even metal in my view. They're hard rock. Ick.
2013-02-15 08:42:31 PM
1 votes:

bunner: roadmarks: Here's the thing, Wicca, like most other pagan religions, doesn't claim to be the "one true way".  Only the one that works best for that particular person.

And I'm sort of fine with that, but I can't help but think it sounds more like a car sales manual than a religion.


Funny kind of sales manual - because no one is selling it.

If one doesn't believe in eternal damnation for picking the wrong religion, and one's deities never claim or demand exclusivity, there is very little need, or rationalization for proselytizing.  My religion works for me - it may or may not be the right choice for you.  Since I don't believe there is a hell, there are no negative consequences for you not believing the same things I do.  My gods were perfectly capable of getting my attention, I assume that if they want yours, they will reach out to you themselves.

Either way, your religious choices are yours and yours alone to make.
2013-02-15 08:30:00 PM
1 votes:

bunner: Somacandra: Point of Order: Wicca is generally duotheistic--with a God and Goddess. There may also be attention to various nature spirits and ancestors depending on the sect.

See that word?  That means that your one true way has sh*t the bed, jumped the shark and become a joke.  Works on any belief system.


Here's the thing, Wicca, like most other pagan religions, doesn't claim to be the "one true way".  Only the one that works best for that particular person.
2013-02-15 08:14:51 PM
1 votes:

bunner: Skwach: However, as far as religion goes, I think its best to keep it oral. Old outdated views of gender roles, human depravity/original sin, unquestionable clergy, and religious crusades should be kept in the past where they belong.

And that probably wont happen because those are, for better or nay, the very pillars of the Abrahamic belief system infrastructure.  And the reasons  that many of those things are now viewed as quite arcane and obsolete came about from the very technologies that affected our  modes of living and our ability to explain the world around us.  And those largely came about from linear print and the foundations for actually advancing those technologies that it offers.


There ya go! All fixxored.

bunner: But that's the problem in inclusiveness.  If you tailor a belief system to fit the personal proclivities and certainties of any schmo who walks in the door, you don't have a belief system.  You have a very desperate looking social club that never serves the same dish twice.


That's part of why I have such mixed feelings. You need commonalities, but to what extent? Especially when you keep in mind that spirituality is deeply personal and spiritual growth, experiences and the path one takes will be very different between individuals - even those within the same base faith - no matter what. If the goal is to control behaviors and thinking, it's going to be more rigid. If the goal is spiritual growth through exploration and at least an attempt at understanding, you're going to be much more flexible with who you accept as "one of us" and who is one of the "others" whose goal is social control. This, of course, raises the question, should any faith path even have an end goal defined by that faith system? I feel that would deny the very obvious fact that spirituality is so deeply personal if any faith path expects all to believe and feel the same thing. It simply isn't possible without destroying (or inhibiting) the personal spiritual growth most religious types are seeking in the first place.
2013-02-15 07:29:30 PM
1 votes:

Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit:

Actually, absolutely insane stuff happens when you write stuff down and rely on that. Some farktard is going to rail against anything that doesn't quite fit in with the "written word of GAWD", which some other farktard told them is unchanging and infallible. This leaves very little room for a greater understanding of the world around you if it doesn't fully agree with written lore, and it leaves very little room for spiritual growth outside the confines of that written lore. . .

I really hadn't thought about it that way. Maintaining an oral mythology would be more conducive to an ongoing conversation about the nature of reality and the human condition rather than an institutionalization of thought and ritual..

The problem is, what if pagans from back in the day totally new how to deal with todays problems, but they didn't write it down? But I guess we're having the opposite problem; christians and muslims today insisting that those people back in the day totally knew how to deal with today's problems.

I guess my question is: how do we find that balance between advancing the conversation while keeping it inclusive and also remembering where we've been?


That's a very good question and one I really don't have the answer to myself. If I did, I'd totally write a book about it and then take a bunch of Farkers out to a gastropub for drinks and nibbles with the proceeds. Some people have their feet so firmly planted in the "my way is the ONLY right way (cuz my preacher/imam said so)" realm I have no doubt they're not interested in anything remotely related to inclusion, to say the least. I have mixed feelings about that. BIG TIME mixed feelings.
2013-02-15 04:26:53 PM
1 votes:

Stinkyy: This delicious bit of tolerance comes to you from the same school whose KOMU student journihilists aren't permitted to wear American flag lapel pins.  Wouldn't want to give off the impression of bias, no sirree.


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The oppressed and disenfranchised never want equality or acceptance.  They want to wear the  oppressor's hat.  they want their turn as the prime poobah.  They want the whip in  THEIR hands.  Or, at the very least, endless entitlement.  The pinâta du jour is heterosexual Christian Caucasians.  And the rallying cry is "it's OUR turn so F*CK YOU!".  The game never changes and the results are usually a prologue to more stuff falling apart.  I don't take it personally but I'll be a dirty sonofab*tch if I'm gonna do the "oh noes!" dance about it.   :  ) Let the whiners whine about whatever world leader pretend they think will give them an edge this week.  History will eat us all.  Wake me up when we start learning from this simple fact.
2013-02-15 03:32:38 PM
1 votes:

Skwach: Now I Is!: cgraves67: Then for the sake of equality, I want no homework on any saint feast days!

That would be easy all 8 pagan holidays are mirrored by catholic saint's days!


Um. . . I think it's the other way around.
Pretty sure the catholics co-opted all the again holidays, starting with christmas and easter.


FTFM
2013-02-15 03:14:38 PM
1 votes:
FTFA: "although some critics say listing every holiday associated with fringe belief systems is a bit much."

Only person questioning this move in the story? Some Fox News A-hole. Screw you, Fox. Your imaginary sky wizard is no better than anybody else's.
2013-02-15 02:56:14 PM
1 votes:
I've had this problem with my most holiest of days - November 13th.  Even after I explain that on November thirteenth, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence.

/That request came from his wife.
2013-02-15 02:43:42 PM
1 votes:

Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Most people from the assorted traditions that observe Ostara, including powerful tribal rulers

Bah! Hate this touchy laptop!

Anywhoooo... they were illiterate and depended on oral traditions for their spiritual guidance. Much of the lore was written by the few educated folks of the time much, much later. Those educated folks tended to be Christian and there's no doubt in my mind that they did put a Christian "flavor" over much of the lore. Of course you're not going to find written lore before a certain time period about Eostre - or most other of the old deities - but you will find stone carvings, ritual tools and other evidence going back much, much earlier. She was definitely a big player in the old faith system, just how accurate she was depicted by the Christian (and occasional Muslim) scholars is debatable, though.

Oral traditions are better anyways. Crazy shiat happens when you write things down!

*sarcasm*


Actually, absolutely insane stuff happens when you write stuff down and rely on that. Some farktard is going to rail against anything that doesn't quite fit in with the "written word of GAWD", which some other farktard told them is unchanging and infallible. This leaves very little room for a greater understanding of the world around you if it doesn't fully agree with written lore, and it leaves very little room for spiritual growth outside the confines of that written lore. Those things - understanding of the world around you to the best of your ability and spiritual growth - are kind of important. Also, when things are written down in a "holy" book viewed as the infallible word of any deity, it is always going to be interpreted in different ways by different people - which is fine, everyone's spiritual path is different. What isn't fine is babbling about how someone isn't a "REAL" whatever because they believe stuff or do stuff not mentioned in said holy book or writings or they disagree with the interpretations of another.

Besides all that, how in Lady Hel's blessed name is an illiterate supposed to write anything down? That's why when studying any of the old faiths, you pay attention to all of the lore, including regional lore - regional deities are common in polytheistic faiths, and alliances between regional deity and human would change when they moved, even if the base faith was the same. You probably wouldn't give offerings to Skadi and expect her blessing and protection if you lived in the desert, after all.* You most certainly would if you lived in the mountains. You would get a lot of clues about who/what the people of the region viewed as important based on archaeological evidence (among other things) in addition to the spoken lore. So archaeological evidence and the writings of travelers, such as diplomats and other educated folks, are of more than a little importance when studying the older faiths. They just have to be viewed through the lens of the "written, infallible word of GAWD" if the writers are from a faith with written lore as the only thing viewed as having value, especially if their archaeological research and academic research usually favors 'proving' their own written lore as the only correct interpretation of the world and human spirituality rather than using their research to grow and evolve their faith.


*Regional deities can be someone's Fulltrui as well, regardless of the region the person is living. They would most likely honor the regional deities and wights as well, just because they lived on their turf.
2013-02-15 01:47:55 PM
1 votes:

BarkingUnicorn: Had a boss who would dump big projects on me on Friday with Monday morning deadlines.  When I complained, he grinned and said,

"There's 48 hours in a weekend, enough to get a week's worth of work done and still have time to relax."

That actually did help me develop the "work ethic" talking point for later interviews.  It was the only complaint I had about him.


As long as that boss let you cook your week's meals, do laundry, cut your lawn, go grocery shopping, see your kid's game, go to weekend religious service, visit the parents, etc. during normal business hours, then that's a fair argument he made.  Otherwise, 4 hours a sleep a night and 20 hours of straight work a day is rough.

Your boss and people like him are what's wrong with this world.  Perhaps that's why, in olden days, there were so many minor holidays (saints' days, etc.), and restrictions on work during them.
2013-02-15 01:40:51 PM
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Most people from the assorted traditions that observe Ostara, including powerful tribal rulers

Bah! Hate this touchy laptop!

Anywhoooo... they were illiterate and depended on oral traditions for their spiritual guidance. Much of the lore was written by the few educated folks of the time much, much later. Those educated folks tended to be Christian and there's no doubt in my mind that they did put a Christian "flavor" over much of the lore. Of course you're not going to find written lore before a certain time period about Eostre - or most other of the old deities - but you will find stone carvings, ritual tools and other evidence going back much, much earlier. She was definitely a big player in the old faith system, just how accurate she was depicted by the Christian (and occasional Muslim) scholars is debatable, though.


Oral traditions are better anyways. Crazy shiat happens when you write things down!

*sarcasm*
2013-02-15 01:24:40 PM
1 votes:

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Most people from the assorted traditions that observe Ostara, including powerful tribal rulers


Bah! Hate this touchy laptop!

Anywhoooo... they were illiterate and depended on oral traditions for their spiritual guidance. Much of the lore was written by the few educated folks of the time much, much later. Those educated folks tended to be Christian and there's no doubt in my mind that they did put a Christian "flavor" over much of the lore. Of course you're not going to find written lore before a certain time period about Eostre - or most other of the old deities - but you will find stone carvings, ritual tools and other evidence going back much, much earlier. She was definitely a big player in the old faith system, just how accurate she was depicted by the Christian (and occasional Muslim) scholars is debatable, though.
2013-02-15 01:19:34 PM
1 votes:

Skwach: For some reason, I thought that easter also coincided with some pagan spring holiday that involved a fertility goddess, and that's why the easter bunny an' stuff.

I also thought that christmas was because all the christian converts kept celebrating mithras, or whatever, and so pope whoever needed to say it was a christian holiday too.

I don't know I think all these things. . . I just remember being told at some point.


Yup. The goddess involved was an Anglo-Saxon Heathen deity named "Eostre", which is where we get the word "Easter", aka "Ostara" if you are the Pagan/Heathen type. The Easter Bunny is representative of the Ostara Hare, Eostre's totem animal.

With Christmas, that's an important time of year for agrarian cultures regardless of the culture involved, because of the solstice falling around that time. Observances can last many days, depending on the tradition one follows. In my tradition, it lasts 12 days. It is also not "Christ's Mass", it is Jul/Yule. Nearly all of the Christmas traditions and trappings celebrated in the US are straight out of the original Germanic tribes' Heathen traditions. Leave out babby Jezus and you got yourself a celebration fitting for a Viking horde. (Scandinavians being one of the original Germanic tribes, of course)

There's some argument in the academic community about whether or not Eostre was actually a Teutonic goddess at all as there is no written mention of her until about 700-800 years ago. Well, no kidding. I often have to wonder how these types are called "academics" if they don't use even common sense. Most people from the assorted traditions that observe Ostara, including powerful tribal rulers
2013-02-15 12:50:13 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: I'm so ashamed of my alma mater for being inclusive.


Not a Christian, but I don't begrudge them their holidays. Knowing their historical propensities, however, I will decline the offer of a free "pagan" holiday for much the same reasons a Jew in WWII would prefer not to sport a yellow star for their coat front.

I'm liking the homebrew/naked dancing bonfire girls, however. All hail Jungian archetype of choice!
2013-02-15 12:42:29 PM
1 votes:

Persnickety: By and large wiccan chicks tend to be bi and large.


True enough, but while the goods are odd, the odds are good.
2013-02-15 12:36:28 PM
1 votes:

Skwach: Now I Is!: cgraves67: Then for the sake of equality, I want no homework on any saint feast days!

That would be easy all 8 pagan holidays are mirrored catholic saint's days!


Um. . . I think it's the other way around.
Pretty sure the catholics co-opted all the again holidays, starting with christmas and easter.


Easter is tied to Passover which is based on the lunar cycle. The name Easter comes from a pagan goddess (of springtime) whose rites were celebrated at the same time. This is only true for the English-speaking world. The rest of Christians have different names for Easter, usually some variation on Paschal.  If Passover has something to do with pagan holidays, I don't know if it.

Christmas is on the same time frame as the birthday of Mithras because we wanted to give the Mithras cult something to be jealous of.  Mithras was a war god out of the Middle East that found traction with the Roman army.

A lot of the locally-recognized  saints were actually converted pagan gods, heroes, and spirits. They've largely been weeded out by the modern church.

The fact that we've co-opted so much of pagan traditions into christianity gives me a sense of perspective about the co-opting of christian holidays into secularism.
2013-02-15 12:32:54 PM
1 votes:
By and large wiccan chicks tend to be bi and large.
2013-02-15 12:27:21 PM
1 votes:
Today is the last day of Lupercalia so I'm heading home, folks.
2013-02-15 12:23:35 PM
1 votes:

syberpud: Taking what they liked and leaving what they didn't.


Heck, all religions do that!  For a homework assignment, find the nearest polish catholic and mention the phrase "cafeteria catholic".  Step back and enjoy the show.

/don't flame me, Stosh.
2013-02-15 12:22:41 PM
1 votes:

ArkAngel: Weaver95: ya know...I kinda like the pagans.  every time I go to one of their events there's good food and decent-to-awesome beer.  And there's almost never any black magic orgies.

But are there feats of strength?


You need to hang out with the Asatruar and related Germanic/Nordic Heathen tribes for that.

/we also have plenty of food and homemade mead
//BYO drinking horn
2013-02-15 12:20:55 PM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: yes "wicca" came about in the 60s the 1960s. But (and I love this part) they have traditions dating back to the dawn of time.


upload.wikimedia.org

Don't quit your day job there, amateur historian. Its a quite a bit more complicated than that.
2013-02-15 12:15:39 PM
1 votes:

Now I Is!: cgraves67: Then for the sake of equality, I want no homework on any saint feast days!

That would be easy all 8 pagan holidays are mirrored catholic saint's days!



Um. . . I think it's the other way around.
Pretty sure the catholics co-opted all the again holidays, starting with christmas and easter.
2013-02-15 12:07:27 PM
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TheBigJerk: Weaver95: ya know...I kinda like the pagans.  every time I go to one of their events there's good food and decent-to-awesome beer.  And there's almost never any black magic orgies.

shiat, the black magic orgies are the best part.

/predictable joke

Wicca does have the advantage of having a god that is older than christianity's god, while being FAR more up-to-date in terms of religion's role in modern society.


What?

Wicca is less than a century old.
2013-02-15 12:04:13 PM
1 votes:
 I find it more than just a little disinginuous that the people in article only started complaining when they added pagans to the list. My guess is that you didn't hear  peep out of them when they were not assigning work on christian holidays.

Lil hypocracy with that wine?

Hypnozombie
2013-02-15 11:59:40 AM
1 votes:
"So, what's college like?"

"It's not really too useful for actually learning stuff, but you can say or lay claim to the most outrageous bullsh*t and everybody has to kiss your ass rosy about it or get fired."

"Seriously?  DADDY!  I need tuition money!"

Don't forget you stop by the degree dispenser on the way to your first barista job.
2013-02-15 11:50:34 AM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: No.  Also, fark off.

Christians have to do homework over their biggest holiday (Easter...


Easter is not even remotely Christianity's biggest holiday.  I'm sure it "ought to be" but it isn't.  there are several Saint's days that are higher on the list as Americans practice it.

Everything else?  Yeah, that's about right.  Real classes don't give a shiat about the holidays, they expect your ass to be working until the work's done, so get to work.
2013-02-15 11:41:06 AM
1 votes:
No pagan holidays? Well, then no reports on Christmas either,
2013-02-15 11:39:51 AM
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What about "Talk Like A Pirate" day? hmmm? We're a big religion too ya know.
2013-02-15 11:33:51 AM
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Then for the sake of equality, I want no homework on any saint feast days!
2013-02-15 11:33:33 AM
1 votes:
If they honored all holidays, there'd never be school.
2013-02-15 09:43:27 AM
1 votes:
ya know...I kinda like the pagans.  every time I go to one of their events there's good food and decent-to-awesome beer.  And there's almost never any black magic orgies.
 
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