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2013-02-15 02:43:42 PM  

Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Most people from the assorted traditions that observe Ostara, including powerful tribal rulers

Bah! Hate this touchy laptop!

Anywhoooo... they were illiterate and depended on oral traditions for their spiritual guidance. Much of the lore was written by the few educated folks of the time much, much later. Those educated folks tended to be Christian and there's no doubt in my mind that they did put a Christian "flavor" over much of the lore. Of course you're not going to find written lore before a certain time period about Eostre - or most other of the old deities - but you will find stone carvings, ritual tools and other evidence going back much, much earlier. She was definitely a big player in the old faith system, just how accurate she was depicted by the Christian (and occasional Muslim) scholars is debatable, though.

Oral traditions are better anyways. Crazy shiat happens when you write things down!

*sarcasm*


Actually, absolutely insane stuff happens when you write stuff down and rely on that. Some farktard is going to rail against anything that doesn't quite fit in with the "written word of GAWD", which some other farktard told them is unchanging and infallible. This leaves very little room for a greater understanding of the world around you if it doesn't fully agree with written lore, and it leaves very little room for spiritual growth outside the confines of that written lore. Those things - understanding of the world around you to the best of your ability and spiritual growth - are kind of important. Also, when things are written down in a "holy" book viewed as the infallible word of any deity, it is always going to be interpreted in different ways by different people - which is fine, everyone's spiritual path is different. What isn't fine is babbling about how someone isn't a "REAL" whatever because they believe stuff or do stuff not mentioned in said holy book or writings or they disagree with the interpretations of another.

Besides all that, how in Lady Hel's blessed name is an illiterate supposed to write anything down? That's why when studying any of the old faiths, you pay attention to all of the lore, including regional lore - regional deities are common in polytheistic faiths, and alliances between regional deity and human would change when they moved, even if the base faith was the same. You probably wouldn't give offerings to Skadi and expect her blessing and protection if you lived in the desert, after all.* You most certainly would if you lived in the mountains. You would get a lot of clues about who/what the people of the region viewed as important based on archaeological evidence (among other things) in addition to the spoken lore. So archaeological evidence and the writings of travelers, such as diplomats and other educated folks, are of more than a little importance when studying the older faiths. They just have to be viewed through the lens of the "written, infallible word of GAWD" if the writers are from a faith with written lore as the only thing viewed as having value, especially if their archaeological research and academic research usually favors 'proving' their own written lore as the only correct interpretation of the world and human spirituality rather than using their research to grow and evolve their faith.


*Regional deities can be someone's Fulltrui as well, regardless of the region the person is living. They would most likely honor the regional deities and wights as well, just because they lived on their turf.
 
2013-02-15 02:54:22 PM  

Nuc_E: As a graduate of 2 of the 4 campuses, sure, don't care what they do regarding that.

However, Mizzou can Fark off 1) for joining the college athletics money grab and jetting to the SEC for a better "cultural" fit.  2)  For undermining my successful graduate program and pulling some shady shiat in the process.


The SEC is awesome- but then again I don't give two shiats about basketball. And it sucks not playing kansas anymore... there will be more opportunities for the campus to expand thanks to financial bloom though.

UMKC on the other hand tried to spend $500, 000 to change their name to ukc so we could be confused with kansas instead of mizzou... we need some new leadership over here...
 
2013-02-15 02:56:14 PM  
I've had this problem with my most holiest of days - November 13th.  Even after I explain that on November thirteenth, Felix Unger was asked to remove himself from his place of residence.

/That request came from his wife.
 
2013-02-15 02:57:06 PM  
...or days that end in "y".
 
2013-02-15 02:57:10 PM  

Weaver95: CygnusDarius:

Umm, not to rain on anyone's parade, but his Fark name is letrole.

yes, but I drank a LOT of coffee very recently.


So, drinkingcoffeeIdrinkcoffeedrinkingcoffeeeveryday?.
 
2013-02-15 03:14:22 PM  
UM/MU HQ Boone County (air drop supplies - a Blue County in a Sea of Red - education level might have something to do with it).  Plenty of silliness (Wiccan Lesbian Organic farm, etc. - County spent 30K back in the `90's, to hire a Deputy to hunt down Satanists - turned up some skulls on a tree stump at some hippie truck farm, and raided an anthropology project setup by a local HS - Woodland Native campsite recreation).

FTFA: Tammy Edwards, radio host of the nationally syndicated "Tammy Bruce Show" and Fox News contributor, said she found the guide to be indicative of an unbecoming societal shift. "It almost seems as though we're looking for excuses for people to not have to take their commitments seriously," Edwards told FoxNews.com. "It's beyond political correctness; it's almost like an excuse to do nothing. It's like societal nihilism, where nothing matters."

Well, let's review the Constitutional Amendment writing (passed by 7-1 margin - during 2012 primaries - nothing but a Republican bloodbath with all the bible beaters drawn out so's to leave the faithful home in November General - Boone County (few students in August - went 60-40 for) was closer to 1:1 (not bad).

 FTFAmendment:

that no student shall be compelled to perform or participate in academic assignments or educational presentations that violate his or her religious beliefs

AND: but this section shall not be construed to expand the rights of prisoners in state or local custody beyond those afforded by the laws of the United States, excuse acts of licentiousness, nor to justify practices inconsistent with the good order, peace or safety of the state, or with the rights of others.

That means don't mention the FSM - keep your knees bloody for the baby jesus.
 
2013-02-15 03:14:38 PM  
FTFA: "although some critics say listing every holiday associated with fringe belief systems is a bit much."

Only person questioning this move in the story? Some Fox News A-hole. Screw you, Fox. Your imaginary sky wizard is no better than anybody else's.
 
2013-02-15 03:27:41 PM  

jshine: ...or days that end in "y".


I take back my earlier endorsement and endorse this instead.
 
2013-02-15 03:32:38 PM  

Skwach: Now I Is!: cgraves67: Then for the sake of equality, I want no homework on any saint feast days!

That would be easy all 8 pagan holidays are mirrored by catholic saint's days!


Um. . . I think it's the other way around.
Pretty sure the catholics co-opted all the again holidays, starting with christmas and easter.


FTFM
 
2013-02-15 03:32:43 PM  
wiccan and pagan holidays? wow thats a lot of days no homework. full moon new moon yule imbolc ostara beltane samhain mabon litha lughnasadh

thats approx 36 holidays right there and thats just wicca and not even a complete list
 
2013-02-15 03:33:53 PM  
Eye of Newt and Toe of Frog are actually old English common names for herbs.  I found a list of them here:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070920214048AAeoHoJ
 
2013-02-15 03:34:03 PM  
This delicious bit of tolerance comes to you from the same school whose KOMU student journihilists aren't permitted to wear American flag lapel pins.  Wouldn't want to give off the impression of bias, no sirree.


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2013-02-15 03:35:34 PM  

ThreeFootSmurf: wiccan and pagan holidays? wow thats a lot of days no homework. full moon new moon yule imbolc ostara beltane samhain mabon litha lughnasadh

thats approx 36 holidays right there and thats just wicca and not even a complete list


and after reading this i see they are only covering the main 8 and not the full and new moons. lol
 
2013-02-15 03:36:36 PM  
MU's response here
 
2013-02-15 03:43:26 PM  
Good for the school.  I've met few groups of people on this earth that want to be oppressed more than the various neo-pagans.  The school should offer them chapel space and send them little chocolates for high holidays.
 
2013-02-15 03:44:23 PM  

Stinkyy: This delicious bit of tolerance comes to you from the same school whose KOMU student journihilists aren't permitted to wear American flag lapel pins.  Wouldn't want to give off the impression of bias, no sirree.


Jingoism has no place in news. Only in Fox "News."
 
2013-02-15 03:49:07 PM  

maus: MU's response here


"'The Fox News story was really incorrect,' MU spokeswoman Mary Jo Banken said."

But was it "fair and balanced"?
 
2013-02-15 03:49:47 PM  

cgraves67: Then for the sake of equality, I want no homework on any saint feast days!



Plus the traditional killing of the French UPON SAINT CRISPIN'S DAY!
 
2013-02-15 03:57:03 PM  

bunner: Somacandra: Point of Order: Wicca is generally duotheistic--with a God and Goddess. There may also be attention to various nature spirits and ancestors depending on the sect.

See that word?  That means that your one true way has sh*t the bed, jumped the shark and become a joke.  Works on any belief system.


In Wicca as in Valdemar: There is no One True Way.
 
2013-02-15 04:26:53 PM  

Stinkyy: This delicious bit of tolerance comes to you from the same school whose KOMU student journihilists aren't permitted to wear American flag lapel pins.  Wouldn't want to give off the impression of bias, no sirree.


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The oppressed and disenfranchised never want equality or acceptance.  They want to wear the  oppressor's hat.  they want their turn as the prime poobah.  They want the whip in  THEIR hands.  Or, at the very least, endless entitlement.  The pinâta du jour is heterosexual Christian Caucasians.  And the rallying cry is "it's OUR turn so F*CK YOU!".  The game never changes and the results are usually a prologue to more stuff falling apart.  I don't take it personally but I'll be a dirty sonofab*tch if I'm gonna do the "oh noes!" dance about it.   :  ) Let the whiners whine about whatever world leader pretend they think will give them an edge this week.  History will eat us all.  Wake me up when we start learning from this simple fact.
 
2013-02-15 04:37:56 PM  

bunner: Stinkyy: This delicious bit of tolerance comes to you from the same school whose KOMU student journihilists aren't permitted to wear American flag lapel pins.  Wouldn't want to give off the impression of bias, no sirree.


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The oppressed and disenfranchised never want equality or acceptance.  They want to wear the  oppressor's hat.  they want their turn as the prime poobah.  They want the whip in  THEIR hands.  Or, at the very least, endless entitlement.  The pinâta du jour is heterosexual Christian Caucasians.  And the rallying cry is "it's OUR turn so F*CK YOU!".  The game never changes and the results are usually a prologue to more stuff falling apart.  I don't take it personally but I'll be a dirty sonofab*tch if I'm gonna do the "oh noes!" dance about it.   :  ) Let the whiners whine about whatever world leader pretend they think will give them an edge this week.  History will eat us all.  Wake me up when we start learning from this simple fact.


I don't begrudge them this. I just wish they'd be honest about it instead of pretending that they're oh so pious and noble.
 
2013-02-15 05:07:41 PM  
I don't see a problem with this.  They already close the schools for Christmas, why not do it for all the other Pagan holidays?
 
2013-02-15 05:57:29 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit:

Actually, absolutely insane stuff happens when you write stuff down and rely on that. Some farktard is going to rail against anything that doesn't quite fit in with the "written word of GAWD", which some other farktard told them is unchanging and infallible. This leaves very little room for a greater understanding of the world around you if it doesn't fully agree with written lore, and it leaves very little room for spiritual growth outside the confines of that written lore. . .


I really hadn't thought about it that way. Maintaining an oral mythology would be more conducive to an ongoing conversation about the nature of reality and the human condition rather than an institutionalization of thought and ritual..

The problem is, what if pagans from back in the day totally new how to deal with todays problems, but they didn't write it down? But I guess we're having the opposite problem; christians and muslims today insisting that those people back in the day totally knew how to deal with today's problems.

I guess my question is: how do we find that balance between advancing the conversation while keeping it inclusive and also remembering where we've been?
 
2013-02-15 06:59:53 PM  
And the problem with oral tradition is the telephone game.  Europeans and their descendants took over the world with plows, ships, linear print and electricity.  Actually, those are the last four killer apps in order.  Something that says the same thing the same way as it did the day it was thought up and put to paper is an astounding tool kit.
 
2013-02-15 07:09:39 PM  
The conversation, however, has never been inclusive.  There's always the guild cloak pose and the people who can get the most people living in the place where they get to wear it in exchange for the benefits that their technology offers, and get them to use their money and live by their rules, are set.  Set.  And them any anybody they let into the tree house will never have to do anything but referee, take their cut and go home.  Welcome to organized society.  The only thing that changes is the technology and resources,  and lemme tell ya, linear print did to oral tradition what the Model T did to the buggy whip.
 
2013-02-15 07:29:30 PM  

Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Skwach: Real Women Drink Akvavit: Real Women Drink Akvavit:

Actually, absolutely insane stuff happens when you write stuff down and rely on that. Some farktard is going to rail against anything that doesn't quite fit in with the "written word of GAWD", which some other farktard told them is unchanging and infallible. This leaves very little room for a greater understanding of the world around you if it doesn't fully agree with written lore, and it leaves very little room for spiritual growth outside the confines of that written lore. . .

I really hadn't thought about it that way. Maintaining an oral mythology would be more conducive to an ongoing conversation about the nature of reality and the human condition rather than an institutionalization of thought and ritual..

The problem is, what if pagans from back in the day totally new how to deal with todays problems, but they didn't write it down? But I guess we're having the opposite problem; christians and muslims today insisting that those people back in the day totally knew how to deal with today's problems.

I guess my question is: how do we find that balance between advancing the conversation while keeping it inclusive and also remembering where we've been?


That's a very good question and one I really don't have the answer to myself. If I did, I'd totally write a book about it and then take a bunch of Farkers out to a gastropub for drinks and nibbles with the proceeds. Some people have their feet so firmly planted in the "my way is the ONLY right way (cuz my preacher/imam said so)" realm I have no doubt they're not interested in anything remotely related to inclusion, to say the least. I have mixed feelings about that. BIG TIME mixed feelings.
 
2013-02-15 07:33:09 PM  
But that's the problem in inclusiveness.  If you tailor a belief system to fit the personal proclivities and certainties of any schmo who walks in the door, you don't have a belief system.  You have a very desperate looking social club that never serves the same dish twice.
 
2013-02-15 07:39:30 PM  

bunner: And the problem with oral tradition is the telephone game.  Europeans and their descendants took over the world with plows, ships, linear print and electricity.  Actually, those are the last four killer apps in order.  Something that says the same thing the same way as it did the day it was thought up and put to paper is an astounding tool kit.


bunner: The conversation, however, has never been inclusive.  There's always the guild cloak pose and the people who can get the most people living in the place where they get to wear it in exchange for the benefits that their technology offers, and get them to use their money and live by their rules, are set.  Set.  And them any anybody they let into the tree house will never have to do anything but referee, take their cut and go home.  Welcome to organized society.  The only thing that changes is the technology and resources,  and lemme tell ya, linear print did to oral tradition what the Model T did to the buggy whip.


I think your analogy of writing as a Model T is perfect for things such as math and science, various record keeping, and many others things of which there is no end.

However, as far as religion goes, I think its best to keep it oral. Old outdated views of gender roles, human depravity/original sin, unquestionable clergy, and religious crusades should be kept in the past where they belong.
 
2013-02-15 07:44:49 PM  

Skwach: However, as far as religion goes, I think its best to keep it oral. Old outdated views of gender roles, human depravity/original sin, unquestionable clergy, and religious crusades should be kept in the past where they belong.


And that probably wont happen because those are, for better or nay, the very pillars of belief system infrastructure.  And the reasons  that many of those things are now viewed as quite arcane and obsolete came about from the very technologies that affected our  modes of living and our ability to explain the world around us.  And those largely came about from linear print and the foundations for actually advancing those technologies that it offers.
 
2013-02-15 08:06:39 PM  
The modern world as we know it is sculpted in ink and powered by alternating current and if you burn all the books and documents  and shut the power off, it's the 9th c. again.  And that's how books got to be "holy".  Because, unlike grand Exalted Shaman Larry, they say the same thing the same way this week as they did last week.  How you live shapes your culture and so do the mechanics of it's processes.  This is why the wealthy keep education expensive and ostensibly elite and yet openly malleable to whatever this month's Einstein Jr. declares and exclusive and oppressive and must go!  And they can't WAIT to accommodate him.  As long as the check clears.
 
2013-02-15 08:14:40 PM  
Civilization exists because of a group of people who saw this sh*t, tried that sh*t, tested some other sh*t and then wrote down what happened.  The rest is ooga booga and what's for dinner.
 
2013-02-15 08:14:51 PM  

bunner: Skwach: However, as far as religion goes, I think its best to keep it oral. Old outdated views of gender roles, human depravity/original sin, unquestionable clergy, and religious crusades should be kept in the past where they belong.

And that probably wont happen because those are, for better or nay, the very pillars of the Abrahamic belief system infrastructure.  And the reasons  that many of those things are now viewed as quite arcane and obsolete came about from the very technologies that affected our  modes of living and our ability to explain the world around us.  And those largely came about from linear print and the foundations for actually advancing those technologies that it offers.


There ya go! All fixxored.

bunner: But that's the problem in inclusiveness.  If you tailor a belief system to fit the personal proclivities and certainties of any schmo who walks in the door, you don't have a belief system.  You have a very desperate looking social club that never serves the same dish twice.


That's part of why I have such mixed feelings. You need commonalities, but to what extent? Especially when you keep in mind that spirituality is deeply personal and spiritual growth, experiences and the path one takes will be very different between individuals - even those within the same base faith - no matter what. If the goal is to control behaviors and thinking, it's going to be more rigid. If the goal is spiritual growth through exploration and at least an attempt at understanding, you're going to be much more flexible with who you accept as "one of us" and who is one of the "others" whose goal is social control. This, of course, raises the question, should any faith path even have an end goal defined by that faith system? I feel that would deny the very obvious fact that spirituality is so deeply personal if any faith path expects all to believe and feel the same thing. It simply isn't possible without destroying (or inhibiting) the personal spiritual growth most religious types are seeking in the first place.
 
2013-02-15 08:21:20 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: There ya go! All fixxored.


Yes, Lord knows no tribe of illiterates ever pillories somebody for stealing a yak or marrying outside of the tribe.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Especially when you keep in mind that spirituality is deeply personal and spiritual growth, experiences and the path one takes will be very different between individuals


I've got a funny feeling that a great deal of that notion is more based on vanity and tailoring your "growth experience" to what you already hold to be that which is spiritual.  I may be mistaken.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: If the goal is spiritual growth through exploration and at least an attempt at understanding, you're going to be much more flexible


and of course, if the goal is to keep people from falling down the same hole, over and over, in the name of spirituality, because you already know what's at the bottom, it may be that a bit of structure is a lot more useful than not.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I feel that would deny the very obvious fact that spirituality is so deeply personal if any faith path expects all to believe and feel the same thing. It simply isn't possible without destroying (or inhibiting) the personal spiritual growth most religious types are seeking in the first place.


And I feel, personally, that the very notion that God only talks to ME.  Whether you are frocked in the raiments or some schmuck in a Judas Priest T-shirt, is sort of the problem.
 
2013-02-15 08:30:00 PM  

bunner: Somacandra: Point of Order: Wicca is generally duotheistic--with a God and Goddess. There may also be attention to various nature spirits and ancestors depending on the sect.

See that word?  That means that your one true way has sh*t the bed, jumped the shark and become a joke.  Works on any belief system.


Here's the thing, Wicca, like most other pagan religions, doesn't claim to be the "one true way".  Only the one that works best for that particular person.
 
2013-02-15 08:33:50 PM  

roadmarks: Here's the thing, Wicca, like most other pagan religions, doesn't claim to be the "one true way".  Only the one that works best for that particular person.


And I'm sort of fine with that, but I can't help but think it sounds more like a car sales manual than a religion.
 
2013-02-15 08:42:31 PM  

bunner: roadmarks: Here's the thing, Wicca, like most other pagan religions, doesn't claim to be the "one true way".  Only the one that works best for that particular person.

And I'm sort of fine with that, but I can't help but think it sounds more like a car sales manual than a religion.


Funny kind of sales manual - because no one is selling it.

If one doesn't believe in eternal damnation for picking the wrong religion, and one's deities never claim or demand exclusivity, there is very little need, or rationalization for proselytizing.  My religion works for me - it may or may not be the right choice for you.  Since I don't believe there is a hell, there are no negative consequences for you not believing the same things I do.  My gods were perfectly capable of getting my attention, I assume that if they want yours, they will reach out to you themselves.

Either way, your religious choices are yours and yours alone to make.
 
2013-02-15 09:06:03 PM  

bunner: Real Women Drink Akvavit: There ya go! All fixxored.

Yes, Lord knows no tribe of illiterates ever pillories somebody for stealing a yak or marrying outside of the tribe.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Especially when you keep in mind that spirituality is deeply personal and spiritual growth, experiences and the path one takes will be very different between individuals

I've got a funny feeling that a great deal of that notion is more based on vanity and tailoring your "growth experience" to what you already hold to be that which is spiritual.  I may be mistaken.

Real Women Drink Akvavit: If the goal is spiritual growth through exploration and at least an attempt at understanding, you're going to be much more flexible

and of course, if the goal is to keep people from falling down the same hole, over and over, in the name of spirituality, because you already know what's at the bottom, it may be that a bit of structure is a lot more useful than not.Real Women Drink Akvavit: I feel that would deny the very obvious fact that spirituality is so deeply personal if any faith path expects all to believe and feel the same thing. It simply isn't possible without destroying (or inhibiting) the personal spiritual growth most religious types are seeking in the first place.

And I feel, personally, that the very notion that God only talks to ME.  Whether you are frocked in the raiments or some schmuck in a Judas Priest T-shirt, is sort of the problem.


I'm sure some people of the old faiths did do nasty things in the name of faith, but things like wholesale slaughter/punishments had nothing to do with religion at all when it comes to my ancestors. We have no concept of "sin" at all (there are honorable and dishonorable behaviors and how behaviors are viewed is situational) and we are also not our naughty bits, we are defined by our abilities and our deeds, so there are no set gender roles, either.

I also was not raised Heathen and had no preconceived notions, so it's not that I'm vain or walked toward what I already viewed as spiritual at all. I was completely unfamiliar with any of the Germanic Heathen paths when I started studying them. I've stayed with them as they've helped me the most and feel more natural and true to me than any other path I've studied - or tried to as some faith paths don't like people who ask questions. We do. We're also usually the ones asking questions - constantly. Sometimes we get the answer, sometimes nobody knows. That's fine, too.

I don't view shifting your views as falling down a hole, let alone the same hole over and over. While some structure is helpful, too much and you lose the chance for further spiritual exploration because with highly structured environments come boundaries I do not feel have any place in spirituality. I'm also not sure if any god or goddess talks to anyone at all, let alone "just to me". I'm a polytheist, but I'm also agnostic.

Finally, who the fark would be caught in a Judus Priest t-shirt? They're not even metal in my view. They're hard rock. Ick.
 
2013-02-15 09:15:14 PM  
And I have no pony in this show.  Of course personal choices are personal.  But the motivations to share them with others is also in our nature.  I tend to avoid things that have a great bit of repetitive ritual and group reinforcement catechisms.  I never see the results changing things for the better.  As far as the "clever, classless and free", blithe spirit approach, well... John Lennon nailed that for me.  I like hard rock.  I like metal.  I also like Beethoven, Abba, the Carpenters, Bob Marley and Brad Paisley and  Mötörhead.   Genres sort of make my ass hurt.
 
2013-02-15 09:17:56 PM  
This is the kind of crap that happens in (stereotypically) non-liberal states whose (stereotypically) malinformed (stereotypically) conservative members then (stereotypically) blame on Northeastern liberals.
 
2013-02-15 09:18:31 PM  
--- where this would probably never happen
 
2013-02-15 09:24:04 PM  
It's like "alternative" music.  Alternative to what?  You baseline your tastes, belief system or governance on being something that something else that,  in your estimation, yours isn't?  That's not an alternative.  It's reactionary.  Alternative music always really gets me.  You know what the alternative to music is?  No music.
 
2013-02-15 09:34:26 PM  
This story gets better.

Needless to say, the Fox News article took certain liberties with the truth.  The diversity guide was just an information source talking about different cultures' holidays and suggested that faculty take that into account when scheduling.  A Junior Brietbart in the School of Journalism wrote a story about it for a right-wing website and then Fox News stole it and rewrote it without attribution.

Link to Columbia Missourian with statements from Mizzou
Original story (The College Fix)
 
2013-02-15 10:05:28 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I don't view shifting your views as falling down a hole, let alone the same hole over and over.


My word, dear.  Who would?
 
2013-02-15 10:37:42 PM  

Mentat: This story gets better.

Needless to say, the Fox News article took certain liberties with the truth.  The diversity guide was just an information source talking about different cultures' holidays and suggested that faculty take that into account when scheduling.  A Junior Brietbart in the School of Journalism wrote a story about it for a right-wing website and then Fox News stole it and rewrote it without attribution.

Link to Columbia Missourian with statements from Mizzou
Original story (The College Fix)


Thanks for posting the link to the original story. I'm not sure which part of the line "These statistics beg the question: why put both Christianity and Wiccans in equipollency?" I should be more disturbed by. Both spiritual viewpoints are equally valid and I find it disturbing that Christopher White person fails to realize that. However, they also misused "begs the question", which annoys me. I'm a chef, for pity's sake, and even I know that phrase doesn't mean what it's being used to mean.

Ah, well. The English language changes all the time, and I guess this is one I'm going to have to get used to hearing.

bunner: Real Women Drink Akvavit: I don't view shifting your views as falling down a hole, let alone the same hole over and over.

My word, dear.  Who would?


Plenty of people would and do. They just refer to it as "flip flopping" or "being indecisive". I guess part of it depends on if you view change as a positive thing or a negative thing.
 
2013-02-15 11:14:20 PM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I guess part of it depends on if you view change as a positive thing or a negative thing.


I view change as the essence of life.  You're either growing or riding the crest of the wave, or dying.  However, as to to it's attributes, at the end of the day, in this context, it's an option.  Decisions mean results.  Change in and of itself is neither, IMHO.  Results can be either.
 
2013-02-15 11:45:20 PM  

Ezekiel Rage: Stinkyy: This delicious bit of tolerance comes to you from the same school whose KOMU student journihilists aren't permitted to wear American flag lapel pins.  Wouldn't want to give off the impression of bias, no sirree.

Jingoism has no place in news. Only in Fox "News."


Wow, a kid wanted to wear a little American flag pin, you equate that to "jingoism"?  Or do you mean the MU article appearing on Fox News, or both?  If any one word has been most malappropriated by the worst groupthinkers of the FarkLib brigade, it is "jingoism".  That word is a favorite of pseudointellectuals and failed reporters.  Congratulations - not only do you instantly self-identify as a probable OWS who not only missed out on positive socialization but the fool who wears his negative bias as a badge.  In other words, the same kind of hypocrite that takes but never gives, feels that his existence and "special" purpose must be the pinnacle of all preceding forebears,  and perhaps as the sign of ultimate stupidity, revels in actually hoping for civilization to fail to prove a worthless point.  Sorry you hate your country so much to have to break out your little $0.50 word and spite a whole class of individuals who feel gratitude for its gifts.
 
2013-02-16 01:35:05 AM  
M-I-Z! (anyone?)

/class of '91
/in late because I'm in Vietnam
 
2013-02-16 11:26:47 AM  

letrole: Wicca is not a Religion. It is the plain truth of the universe.


Fixed!
 
2013-02-16 12:11:29 PM  

Anokha: M-I-Z! (anyone?)

/class of '91
/in late because I'm in Vietnam


Z-O-U!

/graduated from the journalism school in 2004.

Stinkyy: Ezekiel Rage: Stinkyy: String of self-important words


A broadcaster wearing a flag pin when the country is contemplating entering a war is wholly inappropriate. Sorry I made you reach for your copy of Webster's, you miserable turd. *ignore*
 
2013-02-17 12:26:40 AM  

Anokha: M-I-Z! (anyone?)

/class of '91
/in late because I'm in Vietnam


Did you see my comment upthread?

Z-O-U for the nguyen
 
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