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(Daily Mail)   30 percent of office romances lead to marriage. The other 70 percent lead to awkward post-breakup interaction and headaches for the HR department   (dailymail.co.uk ) divider line 242
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2013-02-15 12:06:04 PM  

Mugato: Fark HR. Collection of useless coonts. There's nothing useful or good in what they do. Even the name, "Human Resources". It sounds like a designation the alien lizard people would give themselves as they invade.

You're at work in some cases more than half your waking day. Of course there are going to be hookups. If the hookup or the ensuing breakup affects their job then go after their job performance but stay out of people's personal life HR, and go back to asking applicants if they could be a tree, what type would it be and why.


If I didn't want to avoid dating in the workplace, one of our HR members I would love to ask out.

/ I'm also the Network Admin here.
// Also suck at starting relationships.
 
2013-02-15 12:06:47 PM  

farm machine: Car_Ramrod: When I lived in SF, I accidentally slept with a co-worker during a staff retreat.

How does one accidentally sleep with a co-worker?  I have a number of cows where I work and I'd truly like to avoid having that occur.


Good question.

"Hey could go see Carol and get those TPS reports?"
"Sure!"
*walk into office*
"Hi Caro--- whoa! *trip over box, pants fall off, erection ensues, Carol is not wearing panties and is bent over desk*
*fleshy impact noise*
"Aaaah!" *sploorch*
"umm.. so... umm *zip up* do you have any TPS reports?"
 
2013-02-15 12:06:49 PM  
A survey by Career Builder found that 30per cent of colleagues who dated ended their relationship with a trip down the wedding aisle.

Well, that's a pessimistic view of life after marriage.
 
2013-02-15 12:06:52 PM  
I don't want to screw the office assistant.  I'd be happy merely to motorboat those 36DD titties.  The rest of her, no thanks.
 
2013-02-15 12:07:02 PM  

farkerofDOOM: Meh.  I'm going to hell for a number of reasons.  Working in HR is not one of them.  Trust me.


I'm trying to think of something worse than working for HR:
- selling drugs to toddlers
- raping babies to death
- genocide


Nope...
 
2013-02-15 12:07:37 PM  

farkerofDOOM: 2/10

/Not a vapid cow


I'm sorry Kitten, I was referring to every HR person except you.
 
2013-02-15 12:07:55 PM  
She wouldn't date me because we were co-workers.

But I wouldn't have met her if I didn't work here.

Le sigh.
 
2013-02-15 12:07:58 PM  

WhippingBoy: Car_Ramrod: farm machine: Car_Ramrod: When I lived in SF, I accidentally slept with a co-worker during a staff retreat.

How does one accidentally sleep with a co-worker?  I have a number of cows where I work and I'd truly like to avoid having that occur.

Alcohol. There was lots of alcohol. I don't actually remember much other than waking up in her bed. I'm not saying it wasn't a pleasant surprise, she's not an unattractive lady, I just had no such plans when I was sober.

I think that's called rape.


I should've really talked to HR about that.
 
2013-02-15 12:09:20 PM  
What's the big deal?  We used to boink, now we don't.  Why do some people have a problem with this?
 
2013-02-15 12:09:21 PM  
I met my husband at work, 13 years on and we still mock the HR department coont who told us 'fraternisation' could make others in the workplace feel uncomfortable.  I wonder how uncomfortable she felt when her co-worker boyfriend's wife found out where he contracted the galloping nob rot from.
 
2013-02-15 12:09:30 PM  
I work for a division of my company that is 80-90% women right out of college, who specialize in health & fitness.

Why yes, I do love my job! :^D
 
2013-02-15 12:09:38 PM  
Years ago I helped my GF get a job with my company.  She cheated on me with some basement dweller that I had to work with for 5 more years until I left,  it was more awkward working with him than her afterwards since I had to repress my urge to retaliate.
 
2013-02-15 12:09:48 PM  
I actually feel bad for HR. There's so much petty office politics bullshiat that goes on, they must get so many stupid, worthless complaints all the time. I don't think I'd be able to go more than a week without cracking and just yelling, "Who cares?! Grow the fark up and get back to work. Jesus christ, no one cares."
 
2013-02-15 12:10:40 PM  

Spiralmonkey: I met my husband at work, 13 years on and we still mock the HR department coont who told us 'fraternisation' could make others in the workplace feel uncomfortable.  I wonder how uncomfortable she felt when her co-worker boyfriend's wife found out where he contracted the galloping nob rot from.


Hey, the lady was talking from experience.  She just didn't want you to make the same mistakes she did.
 
2013-02-15 12:11:19 PM  

Molavian: Girion47: Molavian: farkerofDOOM: Molavian: Mugato: Fark HR. Collection of useless coonts. There's nothing useful or good in what they do. Even the name, "Human Resources". It sounds like a designation the alien lizard people would give themselves as they invade.

You're at work in some cases more than half your waking day. Of course there are going to be hookups. If the hookup or the ensuing breakup affects their job then go after their job performance but stay out of people's personal life HR, and go back to asking applicants if they could be a tree, what type would it be and why.

I'd also like to add a hearty "F*CK HR" to your sentiment.  They need to go back to being personnel administrators, and just tell me what my benefits are when I call them up.  Vapid cows, the lot of them.

2/10

/Not a vapid cow

I'm not trolling.  I despise HR drones.  I especially love it when they butt their noses into IT interviewing.  You can't imagine the retards they want to hire based on "corporate values" and the like.  How about you start worrying about "people who can actually do the f*cking job", instead?

I completely agree with you, when hiring people for technical(i.e. revenue generating and not overhead like HR) positions, HR does it's best to ruin the experience for everyone involved.


For my current job, I was grilled by an 8 person panel interview for 3 hours.  It was a highly technical interview.  At first I was intimidated, but that quickly turned to relief once we all started talking due to one reason.

The number of HR people asking me what type of cookie I am was 0.

I'm gathering you've had the same type of experience.


I have, last time I was looking for a job, it came down to two companies.   One had done phone interviews with me the whole time, we talked about my experience, the project manager gushed over my resume's layout, and she laid out what would be happening in the job.

The other company flew me in, set me up in a rundown looking conference room and I met the whole team at once, then they individually interviewed me using HR provided forms.  shiat like "tell me of a situation when blah blah blah"  Questions like this tell me that these people don't know their field well enough to interview through conversation and determine the other person's knowledge in that manner.  What really sealed the deal was their "head of security" bragging about how he used to be in the Secret Service.  I could tell he lorded it over everyone else and they were intimidated by it, I already have clearance via the Treasury/SS, and I worked with those guys on a daily basis, bragging like that was a HUGE red flag for me.

I also had another company where I did an 8 hour, 12 person interview at 2 different locations.   One in Fairfax, VA and the other at L'Enfant Plaza in DC.  The question that made me call off the interview in that case was "What's your greatest weakness"   There were other gems like "what book did you read last" or "tell me of a time you had an argument with a co-worker"
 
2013-02-15 12:12:39 PM  
Did  they mention the process a co-worker turning from manatee to mermaid?
 
2013-02-15 12:13:00 PM  
I'm not trolling.  I despise HR drones.  I especially love it when they butt their noses into IT interviewing.  You can't imagine the retards they want to hire based on "corporate values" and the like.  How about you start worrying about "people who can actually do the f*cking job", instead?

You know, a lot of people can do a job. Even the really hard technical ones. You aren't as unique as you think. It's actually sort of important to not bring damaged people who can't get along with anybody into a workplace.

If you can't get past the HR screening interview, maybe you should try not rubbing everyone the wrong way. That way you'll get past the screening interview and get to talk to the hiring manager.
 
2013-02-15 12:15:06 PM  

rev. dave: Years ago I helped my GF get a job with my company.  She cheated on me with some basement dweller that I had to work with for 5 more years until I left,  it was more awkward working with him than her afterwards since I had to repress my urge to retaliate.


Were you going to sleep with him too to get back at her? NTTIAWWT
 
2013-02-15 12:15:28 PM  

Mugato: Fark HR. Collection of useless coonts. There's nothing useful or good in what they do. Even the name, "Human Resources". It sounds like a designation the alien lizard people would give themselves as they invade.

You're at work in some cases more than half your waking day. Of course there are going to be hookups. If the hookup or the ensuing breakup affects their job then go after their job performance but stay out of people's personal life HR, and go back to asking applicants if they could be a tree, what type would it be and why.


HR is the cop with the radar gun of business. They perform no function that is useful to the people they supposedly support. They are often an incumbrance on those that intend to serve. They absolutely NEVER take the side of those that they suggest that they are there to help. Most of their workday is geared to do exactly the opposite of their stated goals. And you'll never meet one that is honest about any of this.
 
2013-02-15 12:15:59 PM  

Car_Ramrod: When I lived in SF, I accidentally slept with a co-worker during a staff retreat. We were off/on for a few months, but we worked in completely different departments at the opposite ends of the office, so minimal awkwardness around other people as we didn't tell anyone. Still, it was too much for me, so I ended it the easiest way possible, by moving back to Chicago.

Good times.


how do you accidentally sleep with someone?
 
2013-02-15 12:16:03 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: farkerofDOOM: As an "HR drone", I'd like to attest to the fact that not all HR people are like that.  A lot of the time (for example, my current company), HR is held back by what senior leadership wants, thus, a hire is often made that isn't right for the department, but it's what the big guns want.  A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.

Just keep that in mind.

That's bullshiat.
HR is the problem. There are no zero defect human beings. Get over it and find a real job, one in which you do productive work with economic value.

/Oh right. You probably can't get hired because ... oh man ... of your employment history.


Dude.  Hostile much?  I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience with HR.  I happen to love what I do (benefits and leaves), and loved what I used to do (generalist).  A good HR employee doesn't search for imperfections in their company's employees - apparently the one where you work does, and that blows.  To be honest, I despise the "evil HR lady" stereotype that is out there.  Let's be honest - that's what it is, a stereotype.  There are a bunch of douchetwats out there that give HR a bad name - I probably dislike them more than you do.

I think that when it comes to employee relations, managers need to take more responsibility for what happens in their department and not have HR to the dirty work, which is what happens 99% of the time.  So when you are brought down to HR b/c you've been late 6 times in the past month, it's b/c your manager whined to HR that they didn't feel comfortable talking to you about it - it's not HR bringing it up to be  PITA.

A couple of rules of thumb to not be biatched out by your HR rep:  Don't come to work drunk/high/impaired, try to show up on time, be civil and courteous, and don't become drunk/high/impaired WHILE at work.  That usually keeps the majority of a population out of the HR office.

I also think that I what I do is valuable and productive.  I help employees with their leaves, which can be very tricky for anyone, let alone someone who doesn't speak English as a first language.

/General rule?  Don't shiat where you eat, don't sleep where you work.
 
2013-02-15 12:16:12 PM  

litespeed74: I have no problem having sexual relations at work.

It's one of the benefits of being a Catholic priest.


I suspect there are lots of benefits.  Oh the times I have been tempted to leave it all behind and go join a monastery.  Not being tempted by the single women is the hard part.  I immediately lose attraction when I find a woman is married.
But now I work with mostly Indian women who all get married young.   So it is about the same.
 
2013-02-15 12:16:22 PM  
I'm honestly glad that outside of the (outsourced) girl that sometimes works in our mailroom, there is not a single attractive woman that works in my office.
 
2013-02-15 12:17:45 PM  

Mugato: farkerofDOOM: 2/10

/Not a vapid cow

I'm sorry Kitten, I was referring to every HR person except you.


Thanks, Pookie =)  xoxo
 
2013-02-15 12:18:19 PM  
Back in the late 90s I dated the receptionist. They ended up firing her but we kept dating. I ended up marrying that crazy biatch. 2 years later dumped her ass like a bad habit.
 
2013-02-15 12:19:57 PM  

pdieten: If you can't get past the HR screening interview, maybe you should try not rubbing everyone the wrong way.


So you have to put up with the HR girl's bullshiat and tell her what she wants to hear. I learned that a long time ago and it's not the most professional way to choose who to hire but it's the game you have to play. Sort of like knowing how to convince a stripper to come back to your hotel room with you.
 
2013-02-15 12:21:58 PM  
One of the perks of my job... there is no shortage of really attractive (and actually pretty smart) ladies...

/The marketing director is REALLY beautiful...
//She's taken, unfortunately...
 
2013-02-15 12:23:07 PM  

Mugato: pdieten: If you can't get past the HR screening interview, maybe you should try not rubbing everyone the wrong way.

So you have to put up with the HR girl's bullshiat and tell her what she wants to hear. I learned that a long time ago and it's not the most professional way to choose who to hire but it's the game you have to play. Sort of like knowing how to convince a stripper to come back to your hotel room with you.


The annoying part is when you have to put their questions on hold so you can explain how your qualifications do meet their minimums she just doesn't know what she's reading.
 
2013-02-15 12:24:19 PM  
I married the incredibly hot IT guy. "Dating" co-workers was always a fun experience.
 
2013-02-15 12:25:18 PM  
At my old job there were always office romances. Every 3-4 months we would get new part timers and interns. The lowest level of the parking garage would have a few couples going at it during lunch, it was also where everyone went to smoke up. The place Im at now is a lot more stuffy. A few months back one woman I work with a lot on projects was flirty with me, her and I are always like that and she would call me "Boyfriend" eventhough her BF is in jail currently. Her manager talked to me and asked if we were having a workplace relationship. I laughed over that one. At my old job tey couldnt have given 2 shiats.
 
2013-02-15 12:26:06 PM  

farkerofDOOM: A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.


No doubt, but the vast majority of HR people (and non-technical people generally) can't tell the difference between a network administrator and a programmer.  It may be that understanding the distinctions requires significant immersion in the field, but nevertheless having a generalized "HR" function review job applicants for anything more specific than "hasn't committed any felonies we care about" is virtually guaranteed to ignore qualified applicants who didn't misspell the keywords the same way and to let in the Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert.
 
2013-02-15 12:26:36 PM  
Did that once.  Ended terribly.  Small office and we dated for about three months.  The office was split on who was wronged in the relationship.  Just bad all around.  The company folded about a year later....THANK YOU!
 
2013-02-15 12:27:54 PM  

Frankenstorm: I married the incredibly hot IT guy. "Dating" co-workers was always a fun experience.


Yeah, that is like saying I married sasquach.  There is no such thing.
 
2013-02-15 12:27:54 PM  
My ideal HR representative:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-15 12:27:56 PM  

Girion47: Mugato: pdieten: If you can't get past the HR screening interview, maybe you should try not rubbing everyone the wrong way.

So you have to put up with the HR girl's bullshiat and tell her what she wants to hear. I learned that a long time ago and it's not the most professional way to choose who to hire but it's the game you have to play. Sort of like knowing how to convince a stripper to come back to your hotel room with you.

The annoying part is when you have to put their questions on hold so you can explain how your qualifications do meet their minimums she just doesn't know what she's reading.


Do you think they would have even bothered to call you back for a screening interview if your qualifications didn't meet the minimum? If they were at least slightly competent, they already knew that you qualified. They're trying to make sure that you can communicate like a human being and that your resume isn't full of BS.
 
2013-02-15 12:28:06 PM  

Onkel Buck: Did  they mention the process a co-worker turning from manatee to mermaid?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-15 12:29:08 PM  
Hooked up with a co-worker back in the early 80's. We've been married now for 29 years and until recently, worked at the same company for 9 years.
Marriage ain't so bad.
 
2013-02-15 12:29:22 PM  

farkerofDOOM: Molavian: farkerofDOOM: Molavian: Mugato: Fark HR. Collection of useless coonts. There's nothing useful or good in what they do. Even the name, "Human Resources". It sounds like a designation the alien lizard people would give themselves as they invade.

You're at work in some cases more than half your waking day. Of course there are going to be hookups. If the hookup or the ensuing breakup affects their job then go after their job performance but stay out of people's personal life HR, and go back to asking applicants if they could be a tree, what type would it be and why.

I'd also like to add a hearty "F*CK HR" to your sentiment.  They need to go back to being personnel administrators, and just tell me what my benefits are when I call them up.  Vapid cows, the lot of them.

2/10

/Not a vapid cow

I'm not trolling.  I despise HR drones.  I especially love it when they butt their noses into IT interviewing.  You can't imagine the retards they want to hire based on "corporate values" and the like.  How about you start worrying about "people who can actually do the f*cking job", instead?

As an "HR drone", I'd like to attest to the fact that not all HR people are like that.  A lot of the time (for example, my current company), HR is held back by what senior leadership wants, thus, a hire is often made that isn't right for the department, but it's what the big guns want.  A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.

Just keep that in mind.


You realize you're making the same excuse that everybody who sucks at their job makes, right?  I mean, you'd pretty much have to... being in HR and all.  I really *want* to do my best but I'm just not *empowered* to do it!
 
2013-02-15 12:29:39 PM  

TheOther: That's a 30% failure rate.
The two purposes of office romance are 1) sex and 2) alleviate boredom at work.


I always thought the purpose was to get a new red stapler.

Actually, I always played dumb when a coworker came on to me.  I prefer shallow, one-dimensional relationships.  My kitchen's full of single-purpose tools, too.
 
2013-02-15 12:29:43 PM  

Mugato: how to convince a stripper to come back to your hotel room with you


Flash some cash?
 
2013-02-15 12:29:47 PM  

chrylis: farkerofDOOM: A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.

No doubt, but the vast majority of HR people (and non-technical people generally) can't tell the difference between a network administrator and a programmer.  It may be that understanding the distinctions requires significant immersion in the field, but nevertheless having a generalized "HR" function review job applicants for anything more specific than "hasn't committed any felonies we care about" is virtually guaranteed to ignore qualified applicants who didn't misspell the keywords the same way and to let in the Minesweeper Consultant and Solitaire Expert.


And that sucks.  I work in healthcare, and I can honestly say that the advisors who recruit are actually knowledgeable in their fields. A recruiter who doesn't take the time to at least get a basic understanding of the position they are recruiting for is as useful as a limp dong at a porn shoot.
 
2013-02-15 12:31:56 PM  

BeesNuts: farkerofDOOM: Molavian: farkerofDOOM: Molavian: Mugato: Fark HR. Collection of useless coonts. There's nothing useful or good in what they do. Even the name, "Human Resources". It sounds like a designation the alien lizard people would give themselves as they invade.

You're at work in some cases more than half your waking day. Of course there are going to be hookups. If the hookup or the ensuing breakup affects their job then go after their job performance but stay out of people's personal life HR, and go back to asking applicants if they could be a tree, what type would it be and why.

I'd also like to add a hearty "F*CK HR" to your sentiment.  They need to go back to being personnel administrators, and just tell me what my benefits are when I call them up.  Vapid cows, the lot of them.

2/10

/Not a vapid cow

I'm not trolling.  I despise HR drones.  I especially love it when they butt their noses into IT interviewing.  You can't imagine the retards they want to hire based on "corporate values" and the like.  How about you start worrying about "people who can actually do the f*cking job", instead?

As an "HR drone", I'd like to attest to the fact that not all HR people are like that.  A lot of the time (for example, my current company), HR is held back by what senior leadership wants, thus, a hire is often made that isn't right for the department, but it's what the big guns want.  A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.

Just keep that in mind.

You realize you're making the same excuse that everybody who sucks at their job makes, right?  I mean, you'd pretty much have to... being in HR and all.  I really *want* to do my best but I'm just not *empowered* allowed to do it, because otherwise I'd be fired!


FTFY

Calm down.
 
2013-02-15 12:32:37 PM  
 
2013-02-15 12:33:22 PM  

GoBadgers: Hooked up with a co-worker back in the early 80's. We've been married now for 29 years and until recently, worked at the same company for 9 years.
Marriage ain't so bad.


She was reading over your shoulder while you typed that, wasn't she?
 
2013-02-15 12:34:03 PM  
Question for the HR people in this thread:  Why is it so difficult for you to call someone back or let them know where the interview process is?  I've been at my current job for 15 years (get off my office lawn!), but I had that experience then and I have several friends who are experiencing the same now.  The process appears to be:

1.  Send in your resume/CV
2.  HR contacts you to set up interview
3.  Interview where they talk up how awesome they are
4.  You send thank you note
5.  (radio silence from HR)
6.  Contact HR for status.  No return contact.
7.  (radio silence from HR)
8.  Contact HR again.  No return contact.
9.  (more radio silence from HR)
10a.  They call you a month later asking if you'd like the position.
10b.  You get a job elsewhere or continue looking

(intentional caps lock)  WHY IS IT SO FRIGGIN' DIFFICULT FOR HR TO MAKE A PHONE CALL?  Even if it's just to say, "Hey, we don't have any information yet.  Just hold tight."  The one thing HR-folk need to realize is that you make your company look like shiat by not communicating.  You interviewed me, and if I said that communication wasn't a strong point, would you hire me?  Yet, from my experience on both sides (employed and trying to gain employment), anyone in the HR department sucks at getting back to you in any useable amount of time.

/the people in accounting can give the HR department a run for their money
 
2013-02-15 12:35:24 PM  

BeesNuts: farkerofDOOM: Molavian: farkerofDOOM: Molavian: Mugato: Fark HR. Collection of useless coonts. There's nothing useful or good in what they do. Even the name, "Human Resources". It sounds like a designation the alien lizard people would give themselves as they invade.

You're at work in some cases more than half your waking day. Of course there are going to be hookups. If the hookup or the ensuing breakup affects their job then go after their job performance but stay out of people's personal life HR, and go back to asking applicants if they could be a tree, what type would it be and why.

I'd also like to add a hearty "F*CK HR" to your sentiment.  They need to go back to being personnel administrators, and just tell me what my benefits are when I call them up.  Vapid cows, the lot of them.

2/10

/Not a vapid cow

I'm not trolling.  I despise HR drones.  I especially love it when they butt their noses into IT interviewing.  You can't imagine the retards they want to hire based on "corporate values" and the like.  How about you start worrying about "people who can actually do the f*cking job", instead?

As an "HR drone", I'd like to attest to the fact that not all HR people are like that.  A lot of the time (for example, my current company), HR is held back by what senior leadership wants, thus, a hire is often made that isn't right for the department, but it's what the big guns want.  A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.

Just keep that in mind.

You realize you're making the same excuse that everybody who sucks at their job makes, right?  I mean, you'd pretty much have to... being in HR and all.  I really *want* to do my best but I'm just not *empowered* to do it!


Nope. I am blissfully unaware of what you speak of!  In all honestly, as much as you want to be a snarky twit, that's fine, but what I'm saying is true.

I work in healthcare and my peers constantly want to hire the nurse who has 20years of PACU/OR experience, but when they go to get the approval for said hire, they are denied b/c it would cost too much, so they have to hire the recent grad who only has two years experience.  HR has managers and executives that they have to answer to, just like everyone else.

I'm curious as to what it is that you do that allows you to be super awesome and never be held back by anything.  Is it your Wheaties?
 
2013-02-15 12:37:20 PM  
In my 5 years since college I've seen 3 workplace relationships start. All of them are still going strong, though none of them are engaged or married yet.

/anecdote != data though
 
2013-02-15 12:37:39 PM  
Oh look, another HR mandated 16 hours of company wide sexual harassment training....wooo
 
2013-02-15 12:42:05 PM  

HotIgneous Intruder: farkerofDOOM: As an "HR drone", I'd like to attest to the fact that not all HR people are like that.  A lot of the time (for example, my current company), HR is held back by what senior leadership wants, thus, a hire is often made that isn't right for the department, but it's what the big guns want.  A good HR advisor/consultant/generalist/etc. WANTS to hire the best person for the job - the one that has the best qualifications, the one that had the kind of personality that will mesh well with the existings ones and what not.

Just keep that in mind.

That's bullshiat.
HR is the problem. There are no zero defect human beings. Get over it and find a real job, one in which you do productive work with economic value.

/Oh right. You probably can't get hired because ... oh man ... of your employment history.


I worked in HR long ago, as a recruiter for sales teams.   My only concern was getting applicants who could help the teams make their quotas.  But my boss' first concern was avoiding unionization.  I had strict secret orders to reject anyone who'd ever worked for a unionized company, even if he/she worked in a non-unionized division.   The ban even extended to family of applicants, if that info slipped out during the interview.  This was during the halcyon days when about 25% of workers were union.  It had a serious effect on the quality and quantity of applicants I could refer to hiring managers.

I lasted about 18 months before being fired for "insufficient exercise of diplomacy and tact."
 
2013-02-15 12:42:26 PM  

vento: Question for the HR people in this thread:  Why is it so difficult for you to call someone back or let them know where the interview process is?  I've been at my current job for 15 years (get off my office lawn!), but I had that experience then and I have several friends who are experiencing the same now.  The process appears to be:

1.  Send in your resume/CV
2.  HR contacts you to set up interview
3.  Interview where they talk up how awesome they are
4.  You send thank you note
5.  (radio silence from HR)
6.  Contact HR for status.  No return contact.
7.  (radio silence from HR)
8.  Contact HR again.  No return contact.
9.  (more radio silence from HR)
10a.  They call you a month later asking if you'd like the position.
10b.  You get a job elsewhere or continue looking

(intentional caps lock)  WHY IS IT SO FRIGGIN' DIFFICULT FOR HR TO MAKE A PHONE CALL?  Even if it's just to say, "Hey, we don't have any information yet.  Just hold tight."  The one thing HR-folk need to realize is that you make your company look like shiat by not communicating.  You interviewed me, and if I said that communication wasn't a strong point, would you hire me?  Yet, from my experience on both sides (employed and trying to gain employment), anyone in the HR department sucks at getting back to you in any useable amount of time.

/the people in accounting can give the HR department a run for their money


A lot of the time, it's just due to the sheer amount of recruiting and applicants.  One recruiter could be covering 20+ postings, and if they only bring in 3 applicants for each open position to interview, that's 60 people that they have to continually follow up with.  It's a crappy excuse and it sucks.

Some recruiters I know have pre-canned emails that they'll send out to make things easier saying, "thanks for coming in, we're still reviewing candidates, if you don't hear from us in two weeks, please feel free to reach out to us".

I can completely agree with what you're saying though (as someone who is currently employed, but actively searching) - there is nothing worse than not even getting a simple email saying "Hey!  We haven't forgotten you!".
 
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