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(Russian Machine Never Breaks)   At least one meteor strike confirmed in Chelyabinsk, Russia. Conflicting reports suggest moderate damage, possible evacuations underway. (w/multiple dash cam video HolyFarkness) (now w/working link)   (russianmachineneverbreaks.com) divider line 275
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2013-02-15 01:52:18 AM  
11 votes:
Thank goodness this didn't happen at the height of the Cold War. We'd almost certainly all be dead.
2013-02-15 01:54:51 AM  
8 votes:

clear_prop: recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...

Sounds moves slow.  We don't have anyway to just distance/size in the contrails.

Watching shuttle launches from outside of KSC, it takes a good 15-20seconds for the sound to reach you and the shuttle is high in the sky by that point.


Speed of sound is ~340 M/s (slower at upper atmosphere)... quick google search says meteors start to give off light at ~100 km... so if it exploded up in the upper mesosphere, the sound would take about 4 minutes to reach the ground.  A two minute delay would give a height of about 40km, or mid stratosphere.
2013-02-15 01:48:33 AM  
7 votes:

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


very likely this is a speed of sound vs. speed of light issue. those contrails are *waaaay* the hell up in the upper atmosphere and the booms have to travel far slower then the photons that carry the image to the camera.
2013-02-15 09:56:16 AM  
5 votes:
What fox News shows:
growlersoftware.com

What it should look like:
growlersoftware.com
2013-02-15 11:51:50 AM  
4 votes:

Lollipop165: These videos are farking insane.

But I gotta ask, all of the videos I've seen so far are in cars going towards the meteor's projection. WTF? If I saw that shiat in the sky, I'd haul ass in the other direction.


Perhaps because all the videos taken from cars hauling ass in the other direction are really boring, because they don't show anything.
2013-02-15 11:22:52 AM  
4 votes:

SlothB77: What are the odds a rare event like that occurred the same exact day this other asteroid passes this close to earth and the two events are unrelated?


1:1

..as the event has already happened..
2013-02-15 06:01:03 AM  
4 votes:
For those interested in the size of the meteor, there are a LOT of factors and estimates are ranging from a meter-sized diameter to several meters and up to 10 tons.  My astronomer friends who have radio data are now working on narrowing the error bars and figuring out the trajectory of this thing as it entered our atmosphere, but right now everyone's being REALLY conservative.  Any fragments that are found will seriously help in narrowing down the size.

Of course that's not stopping a few people blasting my Twitter feed with their armchair calculations based on a Wikipedia article.
2013-02-15 03:12:53 AM  
4 votes:
I saw a huge meteor break up in the sky when I was 15 years old in the summer of 2001. I was on a camping trip with some friends and he had just crossed over into Canada and found a camp ground to stay for the night. I was being a young stupid hard ass, so I thought I'd rough it and sleep on a picnic table while everyone else was in tents or the camper.

Luckily for me, I was able to see the most amazing thing I'll probably ever see. I saw this really bright light start to come through the trees and at first I thought it was a spotlight on a helicopter, even though I couldn't hear anything like a helicopter. So I was lying there and this light starts cascading through the trees and the spot of light travels from the edge of the sky where my feet were point towards my head, so basically along my body.

At about the time it was directly overhead it started to seriously break up into small fragments but the fragments kept going and going. I sat up on the table and watched as they kept on going over me and past me, out towards the horizon.

I was pretty well in shock because the damn thing had been huge and I had never seen anything like it. So I got up and started waking up everyone else to try and catch the end of it. People got up and were tired but encouraging but they just wanted to go back to bed.

So after maybe thirty seconds I was back on my table and I heard this amazing BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM and I could feel it throughout my entire body. It's been 12 years, so I can't say for sure, but it felt like it went on for a long time. Everyone got back out of their tents and got up to look around. At first I thought maybe the meteor had hit something, but then I realized it was just a very delayed sonic boom and that the meteor had been VERY high up in the atmosphere.

It was a very awesome experience and from then on I always sleep on the picnic table if I get the chance.
2013-02-15 02:52:43 AM  
4 votes:
This meteorite is unlikely to be related to DA14. Remember that the Earth is travelling at 66,000 mph (108,000 km per hour) in its orbit--in 12 hours it travels nearly 800,000 miles or 1,300,000 kilometers. Assuming that the asteroid will pass us at a nearly perpendicular angle, this meteorite is probably not a chunk of the same rock--when an object breaks up at high speed in space, the pieces more or less stay in the same orbit and fairly close together. If you look at multiple craters, they form a series not unlike bullets fired from an airplane. There are several examples on websites dedicated to meteorite impacts as well as double craters (you can see many examples of these on Mars and the Moon).

We annually pass through meteor showers that are the debris of disintegrated comets and meteors and these hit us in a buckshot pattern from a point centered around the path of the comet or asteroid of which they were part.

From what I have gathered from a quick and superficial reading of web posts, the object was probably a lot smaller than DA14, which would have an impact of about 3 megatonnes, close to the Tunguska event, which flattened thousands of square miles of Siberian spruce and which was observed from thousands of miles away. This object seems to have hit less than 250 miles from the sightings which means it was impressive but not unheard of in size or speed. There are many "Fortean" reports of bright objects in the sky and the noises (explosions, sizzling, hissing) associated with them. This is a rare event but has probably happened a number of times in your lifetme with somewhat smaller explosions.

It probably broke up about 26,000-36,000 feet up. The delay between the sightings and the boom is due to the fact that it is much higher and faster than it looks when it passed over the cameras, and thus more distant than you might think when it hit.

I have seen a meteor break up (silently, and thus far away) but it was nothing like this one. That thing came in impressively fast and bright. The one I saw I watched for maybe 15 minutes. It started as a cigar-shaped cloud (looking like old descriptons of "UFOs" and then displayed two small lights about the size and brightness of distant airplanes or planets and finally it broke up. I saw it from a distance and from a slight angle to its path.

It came out of the sunset because it was part of the annual Chi Capricorn meteor shower, which is usually not visible because it comes at us from too near the Sun. I got lucky. And I was able to identify it by looking meteor showers up on the web.
2013-02-15 01:56:35 AM  
4 votes:

netgamer7k: Why are there multiple booms? One video I saw had almost a dozen booms. Did the rock split in pieces, or do sound waves travel oddly?


The rock likely split, and each piece makes its own boom, or if the pieces are big and oddly shaped, a single piece might have multiple booms.  Supersonic planes often have a double boom from a bow wave and a tail wave.
2013-02-15 01:48:59 AM  
4 votes:

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


Sounds moves slow.  We don't have anyway to just distance/size in the contrails.

Watching shuttle launches from outside of KSC, it takes a good 15-20seconds for the sound to reach you and the shuttle is high in the sky by that point.
2013-02-15 01:47:20 AM  
4 votes:

Confabulat: I bet it takes awhile to process seeing something like that.


If I saw something like that, I'd immediately think "Welp, the human race has had a good run. Too bad we had to fark it up with global thermonuclear war." Then I'd be surprised I hadn't seen the flash yet.
2013-02-15 01:38:49 AM  
4 votes:
This is the biggest interdimensional crossrip since the Tunguska Blast of 1909.

We could on the verge of a four fold crossrrip. A PKE surge of incredible, even dangerous, proportions.
2013-02-15 01:25:33 AM  
4 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Their aim is a bit off; they TOTALLY missed Buenos Aires.


You are a magnificent human being.

/The only good bug is a dead bug.
2013-02-15 01:16:43 AM  
4 votes:
This is a repeat from 1908
2013-02-15 01:15:35 AM  
4 votes:
Their aim is a bit off; they TOTALLY missed Buenos Aires.
2013-02-15 07:25:17 AM  
3 votes:
Scientists rushed to the site. Working quickly, but carefully, they pulled several molten fragments from the ground under the zinc plant.

And Dorner's Drivers License.
2013-02-15 06:19:18 AM  
3 votes:

Teknowaffle: So what do you think the odds of it being from the same parent body as Sikhote-alin? Seems like it was a similar trajectory, around the same time of year.


Quite unlikely to be related.  We'll get the trajectory info in a bit though and see if it's coming from something in particular, but my bet is it's just a random space rock.

I mean I don't think people realize how MANY random space rocks there are out there, and frankly you're just not going to detect the objects of this size in our current surveys.

By the way funny detail that should be noted, the Russians were imminently going to shut down their asteroid survey program due to lack of funds within the next few months.  I guess that's no longer going to be an issue.
2013-02-15 05:50:44 AM  
3 votes:

Macular Degenerate: In other news, all police in Russia listen to bad dance music in their cruisers.

/who else has dashcams?


In post-Soviet Russia, dashcam record police.
2013-02-15 05:31:35 AM  
3 votes:

LaughingRadish: PreMortem: LaughingRadish: Too bad it didn't fall somewhere useful... like Mecca.

One already did numbnuts.

If your going to be an efficient bigot, at least educate yourself on the subject.

Yes, I'm quite aware of what the black stone is.  I make a point of researching the things I criticize and lampoon.  Imagine the tizzy that would be stirred up if the fundies realize that Allah, in their minds, turned the Kaaba into a smoking hole in the ground.  You missed my point entirely.


Your point? What point... That you are such a dickish toolbag that you immediately hold a mental masturbatory fantasy about meteorites hitting Muslims when reading an article about meteorite impacts.

Learn to get over it. And then kill yourself, and any kids or pets that might be tainted with your DNA, or worse, your presence and teaching.
2013-02-15 05:03:07 AM  
3 votes:
p.twimg.com
2013-02-15 04:49:58 AM  
3 votes:

Smoking GNU: mr lawson: Matthew Keene: mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!

I have always had very vivid dreams. The ones that come true freak me out. The worry about this fireball dream is that usually when I veer into the psychic realm, it's really really bad. So barring the Russian authorities finding an orphanage with 3000 dead kids that's been struck by a fragment, I fear  this is not the end of it.

welcome to reality.

I have you farkied now as the oracle


I'm sorry this is all just way too fantastic for anyone reasonable to believe.

Next you'll tell me how you almost drown as a kid and saw definitive proof of an afterlife. And that you always know when bad things happen to your relatives because you have spidey-sense.

I had a friend like you in high school. The only thing he didn't have a story for was his endless hunger for attention.
2013-02-15 04:33:26 AM  
3 votes:

I sound fat: Anyone not comforted by NASA's assertion that asteroid DA14 could not possibly hit the earth today given recent reports that they didn't tell the Columbia astronauts they would likely die on reentry?


A government, much like a corporation, or a union, or any other entity that is a conglomeration of individuals and interests... will do (tell you) exactly what is in their best interests, not you or anyone elses. Or to put more simply, their interests aren't always ours', and with good reason.

If they knew the big one was going to hit tomorrow, I'm guessing it's a coin flip on whether or not we'd be told about it.

Even with enough warning and evidence that with that warning we could see select pockets of survivors vs complete annihilation of an area... the negative effects on society could probably be weighed worse than the event itself. A bit of a play on the "better to apologize later than ask for permission before"

Of course all of that is considering the negative effects societal-wide being the primary motivator of you not being told. You know the officials in top offices would also have their own asses to worry about. An elite few knowing the facts have a better chance of taking advantage of what few remaining survival options might exist than if everyone finds out.

While I selfishly would want to know, I'm not sure that if it was my call if I'd tell people. There is much to be said for the bliss of ignorance.
2013-02-15 03:51:35 AM  
3 votes:
Anyone not comforted by NASA's assertion that asteroid DA14 could not possibly hit the earth today given recent reports that they didn't tell the Columbia astronauts they would likely die on reentry?
2013-02-15 03:18:14 AM  
3 votes:
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
2013-02-15 02:46:53 AM  
3 votes:
Seriously fraking cool.  How much do we all love the Russian dash cam craze.  Who knew the decline of the rule of law would have such an awesome upside?
2013-02-15 02:23:32 AM  
3 votes:

SJKebab: 12349876: WorldCitizen: Giltric: Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.

And the big hole in that building?

The sonic boom caused a weak roof to collapse. My guess.

How do you get a sonic boom to reach ground level if the meteor skips off the atmosphere?


It didn't "skip" off the atmosphere. It was burning up, and therefore slowing down and going through the atmosphere, and friction caused the fireball. "Skipping" is a term used to describe that it was going faster than 17,500mph (escape velocity per 9.81m/s^2), and thus if it never slowed to that speed, it continued on through the atmosphere and on its way out if there was enough mass left.

Interesting stuff...
2013-02-15 02:17:43 AM  
3 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: Phil just repeats what NASA says on these things. He probably won't say anything concrete until they do.


This video here shows the incoming meteor in relation to the setting sun.  I saw on his twitter feed that he was looking for videos like this (I'm sure he already has it by now) in order to determine if it is related to DA14.

These sorts of calculations are far beyond my ken.  Anyone else want to have a go?
2013-02-15 02:05:06 AM  
3 votes:

JRoo: [i21.photobucket.com image 400x320]

From the only War Of The Worlds movie worth watching.


cdn.7static.com

Only "War of the Worlds" musical worth listening to.

Seriously, don't listen to the new generation version.
2013-02-15 02:03:58 AM  
3 votes:

WorldCitizen: Giltric: Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.

And the big hole in that building?


The sonic boom caused a weak roof to collapse. My guess.
2013-02-15 01:50:17 AM  
3 votes:
I always assumed it was going to take a nice several kiloton nickel iron based tap on the shoulder before humanity got it's head out of it's ass and decided to put up a proper skyguard. I really hope this was enough rather then having to wait for one of these to actually *land* on a major city.
2013-02-15 01:46:33 AM  
3 votes:

flamingboar: That is awesome! Any chance it's from the astroid that's close by?


The Bad Astronomer doesn't seem to think it is.

The article has this tweet from him: I don't *think* this meteor is related to #2012DA14; a solid 12+ hours ahead; DA14 is still pretty far out. Coincidence?
2013-02-15 01:46:12 AM  
3 votes:
i21.photobucket.com

From the only War Of The Worlds movie worth watching.
2013-02-15 01:38:21 AM  
3 votes:
crumblecat : Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?

Because disabled cruise ship!!!

// Mainstream news is a slow plodding dinosaur. Someone shot this shiat on a dashcam and said damn, I need to rush home and upload this to youtube.
2013-02-15 01:35:48 AM  
3 votes:

crumblecat: Hmm...............

Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?


BBBCause...The InterNNNet is 20 mins into future.
upload.wikimedia.org
2013-02-15 01:32:12 AM  
3 votes:
Hmm...............

Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?
2013-02-15 01:25:52 AM  
3 votes:
thelifestream.net
2013-02-15 01:21:05 AM  
3 votes:
Jeez, that sonic boom must of been one hell of a blast, you can hear glass shattering nearby. The video shot from the balcony glass breaking is much more noticeable.
2013-02-15 01:19:39 AM  
3 votes:
Maybe the United Nations will seriously consider a 'space patrol' now.
2013-02-15 01:15:49 AM  
3 votes:

ThatBillmanGuy: Damn, Fark finally got something rather quickly rather than hours later. I wonder how many more of these things are gonna hit us until the asteroid passes...


This meteorite was apparently heading in the wrong direction to be related to the big one.
2013-02-15 01:15:08 AM  
3 votes:
Crazy, I was just reading the chapter of Carl Sagan's Cosmos about the Tunguska event and comets colliding with the earth in my flight to Denver an hour ago
2013-02-15 01:12:39 AM  
3 votes:
Crazy. This site has a bit of info up now. Apparently a zinc plant had its roof blown off.

/yay dashcams!
2013-02-15 01:12:39 AM  
3 votes:
2013-02-15 01:11:54 AM  
3 votes:
I wonder if they're little chunks that were sharing DA14's trajectory. If so there ought to be more incoming.

Bring your umbrella!
2013-02-16 02:55:33 AM  
2 votes:

studebaker hoch: Stone Meadow

studebaker hoch: The next time someone has to stand up in front of congress and ask to get a sky survey program funded, their entire presentation should just be this one image.

How about volcanoes? ;^)

They don't normally hit us from space.


I think you just stumbled onto the next SI-FY channel movie: Volcano from Space. It'll be great : )
2013-02-15 05:55:27 PM  
2 votes:
It looks to me like the meteor was releasing so much energy along its flight path that the whole contrail became a linear mushroom cloud.
2013-02-15 02:51:14 PM  
2 votes:

way south: PsiChick: Have I mentioned yet that HOLY FARK THIS IS AWESOME?!

[dl.dropbox.com image 660x495]

The twelve hundred souls almost written off by Sir Isaac Newton are thinking it would be more awesome if it happened someplace else.

/Or if we could have warned them, at least.
/Not like that thing wasn't spinning around the sun for a few million years.
/All this damn technology and we can't see a rock coming? WTF HUMANITY?!


Yes, I did point out it's horrible for them, my inner astronomy geek is just freaking out.

As for why we can't see a rock coming...um, because no one's  looking. When I was a kid I watched an edumacational video where an astronomer working on this particular topic pointed out that the sum total of people watching out for meteors, worldwide, is about the same as the employees of a McDonald's. That was  before everyone jumped on the 'why do we need this nothing's gonna happen' bandwagon.

We rely on outer space. We need to understand it. We need to be able to predict meteor showers and solar flares. We need people working on putting men on the moon and other such tasks, because space affects  us. And this might actually wake people up to that, although I doubt it. Me geeking out does not negate the fact that this represents a pretty big fail on humankind's part, and people are going to end up paying for it.
2013-02-15 11:38:02 AM  
2 votes:
Probably the most amazing coincidence we're ever likely to witness
2013-02-15 10:29:31 AM  
2 votes:

Corydon: Thank goodness this didn't happen at the height of the Cold War. We'd almost certainly all be dead.


This.
2013-02-15 10:25:11 AM  
2 votes:
New tweet from BadAstronomer includes: http://74.mvd.ru/news/item/845855/

Pic below from the link.

74.mvd.ru
2013-02-15 10:06:18 AM  
2 votes:

SlothB77: p4p3rm4t3: SlothB77: Asteroid 2012 DA14 will pass closest to earth at 2:24 p.m. EST/1924 GMT, so plenty of chance for more fireworks to come.


According to Bad Astronomer they are on totally different orbits.

[img593.imageshack.us image 685x921]
Estimated trajectory based on videos and pictures uploaded by witnesses. Could be wrong.  Just guessing.

Bad Astronomy Blog

So the Russian meteorite wasn't a fragment of DA14?  I just assumed it was because of the timing.  What are the odds a rare event like that occurred the same exact day this other asteroid passes this close to earth and the two events are unrelated?  Seems unlikely.  I dunno.  When I say rare, i mean the sonic boom and destruction and injuries, not rare as in meteorite striking earth.


The odds are astronomical
2013-02-15 09:36:17 AM  
2 votes:

Civil_War2_Time: SJKebab: 12349876: WorldCitizen: Giltric: Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.

And the big hole in that building?

The sonic boom caused a weak roof to collapse. My guess.

How do you get a sonic boom to reach ground level if the meteor skips off the atmosphere?

It didn't "skip" off the atmosphere. It was burning up, and therefore slowing down and going through the atmosphere, and friction caused the fireball. "Skipping" is a term used to describe that it was going faster than 17,500mph (escape velocity per 9.81m/s^2), and thus if it never slowed to that speed, it continued on through the atmosphere and on its way out if there was enough mass left.

Interesting stuff...

Compression caused the fireball, not friction. The speed of reentry compresses and shock waves ionize the atmosphere causing the most of the heat and light seen. Friction through the atmosphere add just a little.
2013-02-15 09:35:34 AM  
2 votes:

SlothB77: Asteroid 2012 DA14 will pass closest to earth at 2:24 p.m. EST/1924 GMT, so plenty of chance for more fireworks to come.



According to Bad Astronomer they are on totally different orbits.

img593.imageshack.us
Estimated trajectory based on videos and pictures uploaded by witnesses. Could be wrong.  Just guessing.

Bad Astronomy Blog
2013-02-15 07:28:06 AM  
2 votes:
Only in Russia.  Chernobyl, Nazi invasions, Stalinism, Meteors ... they're like the Chicago Cubs.
2013-02-15 07:11:16 AM  
2 votes:

greentea1985: This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.




Tunguska was likely in the megaton range. This is probably kT range. Personally I think it would be awesome if this beat out the North Korean test.

This event is most similar to Sikhote alin
2013-02-15 07:09:20 AM  
2 votes:

dfacto: So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?


That can be stated with absolute certainty. Or at least, it can be stated that whoever wrote or said that is full of shiat. The thing was traveling 30 km/s. That's somewhere in the vicinity of Mach 88.
2013-02-15 06:42:31 AM  
2 votes:

The Snow Dog: The comments box is sure acting weird lately. It chops up words when  i don't hit "use html buttons". Whassup?


Could be related to the fact that the new comments box is a steaming pile of big green donkey shiat and an unnecessary and pointless "web 2.0"-ing. Just a theory.
2013-02-15 06:31:13 AM  
2 votes:
via RT live:

11:19 GMT: The Russian military has explored a meteorite crater that is reportedly 6 meters in diameter; normal radiation levels were detected at the site.
2013-02-15 05:44:39 AM  
2 votes:

Allen262: cc_rider: Allen262: cc_rider: Allen262: [img59.imageshack.us image 344x231]

/gif on Google home page...

It's a conspiracy!

Did it play for you?

Couldn't get it off Fark. I just loaded Google's home page.

I made a smaller one.

[imageshack.us image 344x200]


Thanks. I added a 2nd asteroid to more accurately reflect current events.

i.imgur.com

/technically added a meteoroid
2013-02-15 05:17:08 AM  
2 votes:

Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trailsin the air - and then the blast hits


A lot of posters have been saying/speculating this..but I'm gunna go out on a limb as say the meteor came down intact.

If you look carefully at that video, you can clearly see the contrail(s) has a double-spiral structure to it..much like you might expect a very irregular, rapidly spinning object to make as a contrail forms off each extended end..akin to each engine of a large jet producing its own contrail before expansion and time merge them all into one..

/would also account for the multiple booms..
2013-02-15 05:02:45 AM  
2 votes:

Max Awesome: So, is it safe to go to bed now, or are we all going to die in our sleep?


One would hope so... I mean unless you want to die in a fiery car crash or something.
2013-02-15 04:59:05 AM  
2 votes:
Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.
2013-02-15 03:55:19 AM  
2 votes:

PreMortem: Fun fact from the Wiki:

Chelyabinsk
The city has been reported as being one of the most polluted places on Earth, having previously been a center of production of weapons-grade plutonium.

Zinc factory indeed.


Further fun fact: If you've been internally contaminated with Plutonium for more than 24 hours, the preferred treatment is zinc salts of diethylentriamene pentaacetate.

A zinc factory might be quite handy around there.
2013-02-15 03:55:16 AM  
2 votes:
All you people posting Superman photos are using the wrong ones....
upload.wikimedia.org
2013-02-15 03:43:59 AM  
2 votes:

Nem Wan: So far this week we have the Pope quitting, a nuclear explosion, and a giant meteor. That's really enough, don't you think?


Yep. It's probably about time to troll their bulletin boards:  http://www.raptureready.com/
2013-02-15 03:43:32 AM  
2 votes:
Fun fact from the Wiki:

Chelyabinsk
The city has been reported as being one of the most polluted places on Earth, having previously been a center of production of weapons-grade plutonium.

Zinc factory indeed.
2013-02-15 03:10:41 AM  
2 votes:

cc_rider: Allen262: cc_rider: Allen262: [img59.imageshack.us image 344x231]

/gif on Google home page...

It's a conspiracy!

Did it play for you?

Couldn't get it off Fark. I just loaded Google's home page.


I made a smaller one.



imageshack.us
2013-02-15 03:03:35 AM  
2 votes:
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.
2013-02-15 03:00:36 AM  
2 votes:
"Hey, did you know thatHot Fudge Sundae falls on a Tuesday this month?"
2013-02-15 02:59:01 AM  
2 votes:

santadog: At what point is it no longer a meteor "shower"?


When it reaches your calves, then it is called a meteor bath.
2013-02-15 02:44:21 AM  
2 votes:

J. Frank Parnell: Well i'm glad to hear that. Math is not my strong suit, so i'm glad someone who knows their stuff is applying it to this.

If he makes a definitive statement before NASA does i'll be impressed.


Apparently I don't know how to copy a twitter post now, but Phil is convinced its a coincidence.
2013-02-15 02:13:00 AM  
2 votes:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Phil says he doesn't think that is the one everyone has been talking about.


Phil just repeats what NASA says on these things. He probably won't say anything concrete until they do.

I'd say It's certainly not DA14, because the estimated time difference is too great. But it would seem DA14 brought friends. Let's hope that's the biggest which doesn't pass us by.
2013-02-15 02:08:53 AM  
2 votes:

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


Sound travels much slower than light. The sky gives your brain no easy references to calculate distance, so it looks a lot closer than it likely was. Combine that with the fact that the speed of sound is lower in high altitudes and that can account for the time differential.
2013-02-15 02:04:41 AM  
2 votes:

rwa2: Notabunny: Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian

My wife says it translates more into "fark!"

She doesn't know what "blatt" translates to... she just knows that it's bad.


blatt, or blyad, is similar to coont. It's almost a filler word for them, like how we all say fark
2013-02-15 02:02:53 AM  
2 votes:

kim jong-un: lousyskater: Hope they have meteor insurance.

They do, unfortunately once it is on Earth it is a meteorite and they didn't get that coverage. DENIED.

(That said, the irony is that meteor damage is likely to net you money. Meteorites are worth a lot of money. And a meteorite that is as fresh as this one, is worth a farkton. If you can get one before it rains or gets wet, its worth a lot to scientists. Basically its a space rock, delivered on their doorstep, with no contamination. The last time we got a hold of any significant amount of untainted extraterrestrial rock was during the Apollo missions. There were a few in between, but not of any significant amount, so something like this is worth millions.


A pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
2013-02-15 01:59:24 AM  
2 votes:

amindofiron: I always assumed it was going to take a nice several kiloton nickel iron based tap on the shoulder before humanity got it's head out of it's ass and decided to put up a proper skyguard. I really hope this was enough rather then having to wait for one of these to actually *land* on a major city.


I doubt it'll be enough. Its gonna take wiping a major city off the map for anything to be done.
2013-02-15 01:52:40 AM  
2 votes:

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


The actual hypocenter of the airburst was probably many miles away (near the end of the big contrail) from the town and it took a minute or more for the shockwave to arrive. Some spot way out in the woods got absolutely hammered... I wouldn't be surprised if they find a bunch of trees mowed down Tunguska-style. Fortunately that area is very sparsely populated...
2013-02-15 01:51:05 AM  
2 votes:
The goddamn bugs whacked us, Johnny.
2013-02-15 01:50:03 AM  
2 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: flamingboar: That is awesome! Any chance it's from the astroid that's close by?

The Bad Astronomer doesn't seem to think it is.

The article has this tweet from him: I don't *think* this meteor is related to #2012DA14; a solid 12+ hours ahead; DA14 is still pretty far out. Coincidence?


From my Discovery Channel diploma I would think that the Earth's gravity has been pulling loose bits of the astroid as it gets closer?
2013-02-15 01:46:45 AM  
2 votes:

bingethinker: Yeah, there's no way they could target it and get a missile launched in time.


If they can make a snap shot on a house-sized object moving at mach 20-something, then I for one welcome our new neo-Soviet overlords...

/no objects or contrails moving upwards in any of the videos
//so probably not
2013-02-15 01:44:26 AM  
2 votes:
This is going to cause major panic when this hits mainstream, with the asteroid flyby later today.
2013-02-15 01:41:21 AM  
2 votes:
When that explosion sounded, followed by what sounded like crackling gunfire, I would have crapped myself and assumed we were at war.
2013-02-15 01:40:11 AM  
2 votes:
Phil Plait's twitter feed is well worth following.

/this is probably nothing to do with DA14
2013-02-15 01:36:57 AM  
2 votes:

Coelacanth: Getting 503s on all links.


Use this one

It's not going anywhere and they keep updating their video, a compilation of all the ones you see on Youtube
2013-02-15 01:31:44 AM  
2 votes:
imageshack.us
EXPLOSIONS?!?
2013-02-15 01:27:18 AM  
2 votes:

Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!


Thanks for the link, was curious about the boom. Here is another.
2013-02-15 01:25:07 AM  
2 votes:
Direct links to Youtube clips.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4ZxXYscmgRg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7c-0iwBEswE

/looks just like CGI.
2013-02-15 01:20:18 AM  
2 votes:
Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?
2013-02-15 01:17:17 AM  
2 votes:
Russian meteorite? Be on the lookout for this guy:
i5.photobucket.com
2013-02-15 01:16:57 AM  
2 votes:

Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!


So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian
2013-02-15 01:16:47 AM  
2 votes:

Confabulat: What's with the dual contrails?


Broke in two on impact with the upper atmosphere?
2013-02-15 09:48:41 PM  
1 votes:

Soulcatcher: the most destructive meteorite of the last 65 years happening on the same day is just nuts.


NASA placed it as the largest since Tunguska, today.
2013-02-15 08:49:04 PM  
1 votes:

Great Porn Dragon: L33t Squirrel: you are a puppet: [thelifestream.net image 510x510]

Dadoody: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x552]

I was thinking the same thing. The time of Reunion is upon us! Praise Jenova!

Oh great--now on top of all this, we have the Jenova's Witnesses coming into the thread...

/in all seriousness, though, interesting that this is a separate meteor--the big one that just passed by was just the diversion whilst the universe beaned us with the rock-spitball from behind :D


It's pretty unfathomable- the odds of the closest known asteroid pass of the Earth and the the most destructive meteorite of the last 65 years happening on the same day is just nuts.

The fundies are going to go batshiat.

But seriously, Tugunska in 1908,  Sikhote-Alin  in 1947, and now this one today. Russia gets all the good meteorites.
2013-02-15 06:02:16 PM  
1 votes:

studebaker hoch: Russian cameraman video records the contrail directly overhead.

And hears the voice of God.

I think he says something roughly equivalent to"I was not expecting that".

Can anyone translate for me?


Here's part of the conversation (from YT comments):

What was it after all?

-It was a blast. It seems like, from the meteorite.

-It exploded in the lower layers of the atmosphere?

-No, looks like somewhere further into the stratosphere. I do not know why so long the blast was.

- There will be more blasts, or what?

- How do I know? In any case, they are not a billion. Shortly, a meteorite exploded there and flew away.

- The flash was very bright. I'm still filled documents, I took off all the windows!

-Ye. All right. That's end.
2013-02-15 04:55:17 PM  
1 votes:

dorkymidgetqueen: mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!

My ex fiance has the same thing happen rather frequently. If I hadn't seen it happen, I'd probably think you were nuts or full of shiat. You're neither of those things, you just have a gift/curse.


Cassandras tears.  they have the ability to see the future, but in a garbled way that rarely makes sense, and no one usually takes it at all seriously, so it's of no use whatsoever, but the visions usually cause long-term psychological damage.

Even the wizards of the White council are divided on if it is an actual affliction or a made up story for attention seeking people.
2013-02-15 04:33:18 PM  
1 votes:

tweek46420: Max Awesome: Procedural Texture: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.

Is it just me, or are portions of the contrail distinctly orange? Maybe it's just the sunrise, but it might also be evidence of the meteor's composition.

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x634]

that's called fire....it happens when things explode


You know your a hopeless radio geek when you see something like that and think "Gee, I bet I could bounce a pretty good 6 meter signal off the ionization trail that thing left".
2013-02-15 03:52:34 PM  
1 votes:

wxboy: orclover: [rt.com image 640x480]
Superheated supersonic molten iron landing into a cold russian frozen lake.  All they are going to find of that thing is powder.

It's my (perhaps misguided) understanding that meteorites that reach the Earth's surface aren't actually that hot at impact, so there may well be something to find at the bottom of that lake.


Keep in mind that whatever made that tiny little hole in the surface ice on that lake was likely a just shaving off the meteor. The thing was traveling at ~Mach 88 when it hit the atmosphere, so even if it slowed to half of that in the few seconds before impact, it would take only a small piece to make a hole that size. Astronomers, feel free to correct me, but that's a pretty minor impact. If the meteor didn't break up into thousands of peices, there's a much bigger hole somewhere nearby.
2013-02-15 12:12:16 PM  
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Their aim is a bit off; they TOTALLY missed Buenos Aires.


Would you like to know more?
2013-02-15 12:06:51 PM  
1 votes:

dittybopper: Grand_Moff_Joseph: These videos got me wondering:  How hard would it be to learn to speak even some basic Russian?  For some reason, the language has always intrigued me a bit.

It's not all that hard.  It's quite phonetic.  Words tend to be pronounced how it's actually spelled, unlike some other languages (I'm looking at you, French).  Most things more complicated than turnip farming have some sort of cognate in Western languages that you will recognize.  In 2 semesters in college, I got good enough to hold a basic conversation, and I'm not really that good at languages.

The only real stumbling block is learning Cyrillic, but even that's not hard.  In fact, my cursive Cyrillic to this day is neater and more readable than my cursive English.

/Forgot most of my vocabulary in the last 20 years.
//Can still conjugate the verbs, though.


I think you have that backwards. Cyrillic is easy as shiat to learn. However,the grammar can be retardedly difficult in certain circumstances. And Russian really isn't as phonetic as people say it is, more than English, but most languages are. Your experience with the language might be different, but in my experience, it is a pretty difficult language to attempt.
2013-02-15 10:56:46 AM  
1 votes:

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Mikey1969: God, I hope SNL decides to spoof this segment.

The corrections at the end will include something like:

"Meteors are not actually made of meat.

The contrail was not caused by the meteor's exhaust system.

Phasers are something from Star Trek and can't be used to stop meteors.

Liberals and gay people do not cause meteors."


Good Lord, I was holding back my coffee so hard it started to come out my tear ducts.

/No keyboard for you this time.
2013-02-15 10:54:50 AM  
1 votes:

Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.


This has likely been asked already, but it seems like noone had any warning that this meteorite was coming.  I'm assuming that it was small enough that it wouldn't have triggered any "alarms", per se?  In other words, it wasn't large enough that NASA or other agencies would have raised a flag over it?

Thanks for adding your expertise here - great posts!
2013-02-15 10:50:10 AM  
1 votes:
Atheismo: JRoo: [i21.photobucket.com image 400x320]
From the only War Of The Worlds movie worth watching.
Well that's because it was the only one made, duh.



Actually, when the Tom Cruise movie came out, Sci Fi made their own version, which was hilarious. The protagonist has to go from Hopewell, Va to Washington, DC. Instead of going north on I95 (130 miles or so), he goes to Richmond, then Staunton, then Winchester, then to DC (300 miles). On foot. Living in Fredericksburg all my life, I was amazed that the Blue Ridge Mts/Skyline Drive suddenly resembled the High Sierras.

/Another fine Sci Fi Classic
2013-02-15 10:36:55 AM  
1 votes:
I guess it could be seen from my partner's city in Yekaterinburg. He should Skype his family and see if they caught a glimpse (fortunately none of the 950 or so injured seem to be from Yekaterinburg, so at least no freaking out about injured friends/family).
2013-02-15 10:32:36 AM  
1 votes:

Corydon: Thank goodness this didn't happen at the height of the Cold War. We'd almost certainly all be dead.


a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
"that would be an action that the soviet union would almost certainly interpret as a pre-emptive first strike!"

/Perfect Tommy with the best expository monologue ever.
2013-02-15 09:58:53 AM  
1 votes:

TheGogmagog: On the off chance that it is one that broke up and another smaller part was following it....
What time of day did the strike in Russia occur? Presumably any other debris would hit from the same direction in space (time of day) around the same latitude.


Apparently this happened right around sunrise there (9:15 AM local).  And Chelyabinsk is at about 55° N, so here's what else is at that latitude.
2013-02-15 09:53:36 AM  
1 votes:
Phil Plait just posted this unconfirmed link (translation)
2013-02-15 09:51:41 AM  
1 votes:

crumblecat: Hmm...............

Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?


They arent quite up and browsing reddit and fark yet. Give it a few hours.
2013-02-15 09:31:27 AM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Macular Degenerate: In other news, all police in Russia listen to bad dance music in their cruisers.

/who else has dashcams?

Practically everyone who drives in Russia. Police presence is spread thin and in some areas corruption is rife.

Having a dashcam is essential. If you're in an accident it will show who is at fault. People deliberately throwing themselves in front of your car and then claiming you hurt them is common. Watch some of the Russian dashcam videos and you'll see how bad many of drivers are.


Good to know. Was just wondering this myself.

In other news, this thread is why I love fark. It has all the snarkies and smarties I've come to expect from being part of this community for about a decade.
2013-02-15 09:31:20 AM  
1 votes:
Okay, flipping around trying to find some current TV coverage and Fox plays a few clips of the impacts and says they'll have more after the break.

They then segue out to commercial showing more clips.....and a song...."Skyfall" by Adele.
2013-02-15 09:27:51 AM  
1 votes:
As always, the crack scientific analysts at Fox & Friends set the record straight.......

"In Armageddon the move, Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck were able to stop it......"
"...NASA does tracks these things and they have the capabilities to stop asteroids before they come close to earth"
"Lasers?"
"Lasers....all sorts of....."


s20.postimage.org

Link to full video segment
2013-02-15 09:25:36 AM  
1 votes:

Shadowtag: nmemkha: [i4.ytimg.com image 320x180]

Bad 80s cartoon shows were right!

THEY. WERE. RIIIGGHHHTTTTT!!!!!

You must be using 90's slang when bad meant good because otherwise you're speaking in a language I do not understand.


Sometime in the distance future ...

Gxjudfy, "... and these humans died while arguing over the merits of something called 'Thundarr'."
2013-02-15 09:07:17 AM  
1 votes:

nmemkha: [i4.ytimg.com image 320x180]

Bad 80s cartoon shows were right!

THEY. WERE. RIIIGGHHHTTTTT!!!!!


You must be using 90's slang when bad meant good because otherwise you're speaking in a language I do not understand.
2013-02-15 08:57:49 AM  
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Scientists rushed to the site. Working quickly, but carefully, they pulled several molten fragments from the ground under the zinc plant.

And Dorner's Drivers License.


Welcome to TF.
2013-02-15 08:53:47 AM  
1 votes:
butlerscinemascene.files.wordpress.com
2013-02-15 08:33:50 AM  
1 votes:
i4.ytimg.com

Bad 80s cartoon shows were right!

THEY. WERE. RIIIGGHHHTTTTT!!!!!
2013-02-15 07:59:22 AM  
1 votes:
Have some people really missed russian dashcam videos? New to the internets or just too cool for jewtube?

Or they just have never heard of  http://www.liveleak.com
2013-02-15 07:58:32 AM  
1 votes:
www.vh1.com
Meh. The interdimensional cross rip in the Tunguska blast of 1909 was bigger, better and more impressive.
2013-02-15 07:53:48 AM  
1 votes:
Have some people really missed russian dashcam videos? New to the internets or just too cool for jewtube?
2013-02-15 07:50:06 AM  
1 votes:
This dashcam got a pretty good look at it.


Check out liveleak.com once in awhile. Every damn car in Russia has a dash cam.
It's like they are the 1980s Japanese tourists of the world or something.

/although on liveleak you will find more car crashes than anything else
//Russia has shiatty drivers, too
2013-02-15 07:47:46 AM  
1 votes:

Macular Degenerate: In other news, all police in Russia listen to bad dance music in their cruisers.

/who else has dashcams?


Practically everyone who drives in Russia. Police presence is spread thin and in some areas corruption is rife.

Having a dashcam is essential. If you're in an accident it will show who is at fault. People deliberately throwing themselves in front of your car and then claiming you hurt them is common. Watch some of the Russian dashcam videos and you'll see how bad many of drivers are.
2013-02-15 07:44:52 AM  
1 votes:

Grand_Moff_Joseph: These videos got me wondering:  How hard would it be to learn to speak even some basic Russian?  For some reason, the language has always intrigued me a bit.


It's not all that hard.  It's quite phonetic.  Words tend to be pronounced how it's actually spelled, unlike some other languages (I'm looking at you, French).  Most things more complicated than turnip farming have some sort of cognate in Western languages that you will recognize.  In 2 semesters in college, I got good enough to hold a basic conversation, and I'm not really that good at languages.

The only real stumbling block is learning Cyrillic, but even that's not hard.  In fact, my cursive Cyrillic to this day is neater and more readable than my cursive English.

/Forgot most of my vocabulary in the last 20 years.
//Can still conjugate the verbs, though.
2013-02-15 07:44:34 AM  
1 votes:

MmmmBacon: Well, if Russia goes radio silent in the next day or two, we can reasonably assume that either the Russian dead are rising from their graves, or the Colour Out of Space missed it's intended target in New England.


+1 for the first Lovecraft story I ever read
2013-02-15 07:43:49 AM  
1 votes:
Don't worry. I GOT THIS:

www.thephuketnews.com
2013-02-15 07:41:15 AM  
1 votes:
Well, if Russia goes radio silent in the next day or two, we can reasonably assume that either the Russian dead are rising from their graves, or the Colour Out of Space missed it's intended target in New England.
2013-02-15 07:34:11 AM  
1 votes:

HAMMERTOE: Scientists rushed to the site. Working quickly, but carefully, they pulled several molten fragments from the ground under the zinc plant.

And Dorner's Drivers License.


who's awesome?

you are.
2013-02-15 07:15:00 AM  
1 votes:

dfacto: So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?


Yeah. That's BS.

Assuming they had enough advance warning to get something off, you'd  s ee a missile contrail shooting up and intersecting the meteor's train.
2013-02-15 07:05:19 AM  
1 votes:

Walker: Triumph: 11:19 GMT: The Russian military has explored a meteorite crater that is reportedly 6 meters in diameter; normal radiation levels were detected at the site.

11:12 GMT: Nearly 725 people have requested medical assistance in regions hit by the meteor shower.

11:10 GMT: The meteorite blast in the Chelyabinsk region may be connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid, which will pass close to Earth tonight, Tatyana Borisevich from Pulkovo Observatory told Itar-Tass.

Don't worry about the 2012DA14 asteroid they said.
Nothing will hit Earth they said.
Expert FAIL again.


Careful, you're liable to get astronomers tried in court when a meteor does eventually get us. I mean nobody REALLY condemned Italy for doing it to seismologists.
2013-02-15 07:05:05 AM  
1 votes:
This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.
2013-02-15 06:57:24 AM  
1 votes:
How long before the giant ants and spiders start showing up?
2013-02-15 06:56:59 AM  
1 votes:

Theory Of Null: This dashcam got a pretty good look at it.
[oi50.tinypic.com image 200x141]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gQ6Pa5Pv_io #t =275s


From the light appearing to the sonic boom, it's about 2.5 minutes, which works out to roughly 50km distance. That's over 30 miles away from that cam.
2013-02-15 06:40:37 AM  
1 votes:

Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!



img10.imageshack.us
2013-02-15 06:40:08 AM  
1 votes:
2013-02-15 06:39:45 AM  
1 votes:

Shadowtag: This is also the guy who wants to limit the amount of times people can have sex to once per quarter.


So, Russian Freepers?
2013-02-15 06:31:47 AM  
1 votes:
11:19 GMT: The Russian military has explored a meteorite crater that is reportedly 6 meters in diameter; normal radiation levels were detected at the site.

11:12 GMT: Nearly 725 people have requested medical assistance in regions hit by the meteor shower.

11:10 GMT: The meteorite blast in the Chelyabinsk region may be connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid, which will pass close to Earth tonight, Tatyana Borisevich from Pulkovo Observatory told Itar-Tass.
2013-02-15 06:22:14 AM  
1 votes:

p4p3rm4t3: Andromeda: PreMortem: Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.

9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.

Do meteors break up outside our atmosphere, like by the sun? I wouldn't think so.

And if they do, do larger pieces arrive first then the smaller ones, vice-versa, or is there no usual pattern?

Sergey's kinda full of shiat- I mean technically there is a 100% chance of a meteorite entering our atmosphere in the next few hours (as hundreds do), but this size?  Not REALLY likely.

Meteors break up if they break up in our atmosphere.  There may be some lag based on their size but everything from this meteor has certainly already hit/ been seen.

Umm.. I'm not an Astronomer but... how can you say it's a one shot wonder?

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9
[img805.imageshack.us image 300x91]
"Over the next 6 days, 21 distinct impacts were observed" (July 1994)


That's a giant comet that broke up, of the sizes surveys can see.  This is a rock the size of the few meters.  Odds of another one following it are minimal, it has no gravitational hold.

Cosmic coincidences happen all the time.

(Btw, I just got a shout out on BBC's World Have Your Say discussing this. W00t!)
2013-02-15 06:19:46 AM  
1 votes:
I just hired an engineer who grew up in Chelyabinsk so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/Hope his family is OK (if he still has any there)
//Had to look it up on the map
///Closest place I recognized was Perm, which I knew as being on border between Europe and Asia.
2013-02-15 06:00:36 AM  
1 votes:
Hell yeah. Beer/alcohol > everything
2013-02-15 05:59:57 AM  
1 votes:

Andromeda: TopoGigo: Macular Degenerate: In other news, all police in Russia listen to bad dance music in their cruisers.

/who else has dashcams?

In post-Soviet Russia, dashcam record police.

Pretty much this.  Russians are awful drivers, so lots of people have dash cams just because it's so common that it's needed in the event of an accident to have a record.

Why the fark so many people didn't stop driving when a giant meteor was whizzing across the sky is a much better question IMO.




They figured it was end times and decided to drive to the local liquor store.
2013-02-15 05:54:19 AM  
1 votes:

TopoGigo: Macular Degenerate: In other news, all police in Russia listen to bad dance music in their cruisers.

/who else has dashcams?

In post-Soviet Russia, dashcam record police.


Pretty much this.  Russians are awful drivers, so lots of people have dash cams just because it's so common that it's needed in the event of an accident to have a record.

Why the fark so many people didn't stop driving when a giant meteor was whizzing across the sky is a much better question IMO.
2013-02-15 05:38:19 AM  
1 votes:
THANK YOU BATHIA MAPES! I just saw my TotalFarkedness! You're A-OK! I'll try not to get all uppity now that I'm high class, baby!
2013-02-15 05:36:46 AM  
1 votes:

Oznog: There's an interesting phenomenon where people SWEAR they heard a hissing sound as it trails.

This doesn't seem physically possible. Sound travels at ~ 1000fps (only goes up a bit outside the stratosphere and then slows a bit below 1000 fps in the mesopause), so as shown here, at the altitude a meteor illuminates and usually disintegrates at, it would take more than 3 MINUTES for the sound to get to the surface. And hissing seems to be an illogical sound for it.


I've seen a small meteor break up overhead. (At least, I assume it was small. It tracked about 1/4 or the sky, then broke up into much smaller objects before burning out. I was close enough to see the smaller pieces curving down as the larger piece kept going, much like a spaceship burning up in reentry from a sci-fi movie.) I distinctly heard it. You could describe it as a hiss, but it sounded closer to the kind of 4th of July fireworks that crackle/fizzle instead of go boom.
2013-02-15 05:33:39 AM  
1 votes:

LaughingRadish: PreMortem: LaughingRadish: Too bad it didn't fall somewhere useful... like Mecca.

One already did numbnuts.

If your going to be an efficient bigot, at least educate yourself on the subject.

Yes, I'm quite aware of what the black stone is.  I make a point of researching the things I criticize and lampoon.  Imagine the tizzy that would be stirred up if the fundies realize that Allah, in their minds, turned the Kaaba into a smoking hole in the ground.  You missed my point entirely.


That's not a point, it's a train of thought. You need more than one point. Try harder next time.
2013-02-15 05:33:39 AM  
1 votes:
Well this is interesting news to wake up to.  Former Soviet closed nuclear city gets hit with a meteor.
2013-02-15 05:22:37 AM  
1 votes:

PreMortem: Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.

9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.

Do meteors break up outside our atmosphere, like by the sun? I wouldn't think so.

And if they do, do larger pieces arrive first then the smaller ones, vice-versa, or is there no usual pattern?


I suppose that the gravity and heat might break up a loosely held together object (like a comet) as the tidal and centrifugal forces effect it and radically change the trajectory. See the Shoemaker-Levy comet strike on Jupiter to see how it might happen. The pieces would be in more or less a straight line but their size distribution appears to be random.
2013-02-15 05:22:01 AM  
1 votes:

CAT-LIKE TYPING DETECTED: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trailsin the air - and then the blast hits

A lot of posters have been saying/speculating this..but I'm gunna go out on a limb as say the meteor came down intact.

If you look carefully at that video, you can clearly see the contrail(s) has a double-spiral structure to it..much like you might expect a very irregular, rapidly spinning object to make as a contrail forms off each extended end..akin to each engine of a large jet producing its own contrail before expansion and time merge them all into one..

/would also account for the multiple booms..


Ah, cool, thanks. That makes sense.
2013-02-15 05:19:39 AM  
1 votes:
I am going to wager a guess that this cld be a piece of the same body that produced Sikhote-Alin. It crashed in Russia Feb 12 47. I can imagine that maybe our orbits crossed again.
2013-02-15 05:17:06 AM  
1 votes:

Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?


Already there in the Chicago area. I think it's because Carcillo is practicing with the Hawks again.

/real reason: because fark you, that's why
2013-02-15 05:13:54 AM  
1 votes:

Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!


Боже мой!

/doesn't really speak Russian, but can fake it
2013-02-15 05:08:37 AM  
1 votes:

TopoGigo: jchuffyman: rwa2: Notabunny: Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian

My wife says it translates more into "fark!"

She doesn't know what "blatt" translates to... she just knows that it's bad.

Yebat is fark, but its the verb. Blyat is also kind of like fark!!!!, but its more the exclamation/intensifier use of it.

So, it's "Holy farking fark!" then?


Yeah, essentially. Russian swearing is pretty much like English swearing. You can just throw the words together in pretty much any combination
2013-02-15 05:07:10 AM  
1 votes:

Confabulat: Triumph: 9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.

I'd argue it's about a 100% chance, as meteorites enter the Earth's atmosphere all damn day.


Somehow I don't think he was talking about benign space dust burning up in atmo.  Maybe I'm just silly, or maybe it's because his country just got hit by a big farkin' meteor, and that makes the most sense contextually.
2013-02-15 05:03:23 AM  
1 votes:

Triumph: 9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.


I'd argue it's about a 100% chance, as meteorites enter the Earth's atmosphere all damn day.
2013-02-15 05:02:08 AM  
1 votes:

Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.


Yeah, I have a question- how long does it take for our ion cannon to recharge and fire another volley?  Because we missed Moscow this time.

/Gotta dial that shiat in
2013-02-15 05:01:08 AM  
1 votes:

mr lawson: To quote "The Avengers"...The  world has gotten even  stranger than you already know


To quote the Global Frequencypilot ... If you even knew just how many ultra-secret nightmares the government was covering up, you would never sleep again - just curl up under your bed, weeping and waiting for the inevitable hellish apocalypse.

PreMortem: dbirchall: PreMortem: Fun fact from the Wiki:

Chelyabinsk
The city has been reported as being one of the most polluted places on Earth, having previously been a center of production of weapons-grade plutonium.

Zinc factory indeed.

Further fun fact: If you've been internally contaminated with Plutonium for more than 24 hours, the preferred treatment is zinc salts of diethylentriamene pentaacetate.

A zinc factory might be quite handy around there.

That's not a fun fact, that's a "why do you know that" fact.


I googled zinc and plutonium because I couldn't think of any connection off the top of my head - the annual radiological refresher training I'm retired to take by the .gov nuke lab I work for doesn't get into that kind of detail. ;)  Anyway...

i957.photobucket.com

*File photo does not depict actual Chelyabinsk meteor.
2013-02-15 05:00:11 AM  
1 votes:

GranoblasticMan: rofl, yeah not gonna happen in a million years.

Thanks for your confidence, though =P


Hey man, there's always next Valentine's Day.  Or prostitutes.  I know you'll get your dick wet somehow, and probably regret it later.  Good luck!
2013-02-15 04:59:28 AM  
1 votes:
So, is it safe to go to bed now, or are we all going to die in our sleep?
2013-02-15 04:54:54 AM  
1 votes:

MurphyMurphy: Smoking GNU: mr lawson: Matthew Keene: mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!

I have always had very vivid dreams. The ones that come true freak me out. The worry about this fireball dream is that usually when I veer into the psychic realm, it's really really bad. So barring the Russian authorities finding an orphanage with 3000 dead kids that's been struck by a fragment, I fear  this is not the end of it.

welcome to reality.

I have you farkied now as the oracle

I'm sorry this is all just way too fantastic for anyone reasonable to believe.

Next you'll tell me how you almost drown as a kid and saw definitive proof of an afterlife. And that you always know when bad things happen to your relatives because you have spidey-sense.

I had a friend like you in high school. The only thing he didn't have a story for was his endless hunger for attention.


All because he added a silly Farkie to some guy who claims to have borderline precognition?

Wow, you're harsh.  I'd label you as such in my preferences, but I don't want to be as big of a dipshiat as some jackoff you knew in high school.

/check who you're replying to before you click "Add Comment", you stupid cynical cocksucker
2013-02-15 04:54:35 AM  
1 votes:
Stretch_8Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded& v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

That was NOT a sonic boom that was the air blast from the impact!!!  It was much to loud and to long after the object passed for the sonic boom.  I saw a smaller meteorite several years ago and the boom came within a couple of seconds after it passed and sounded like an extra load shotgun.  The one in the video shakes the ground enough to set of car alarms,
2013-02-15 04:53:21 AM  
1 votes:

LaughingRadish: Too bad it didn't fall somewhere useful... like Mecca.


One already did numbnuts.

If your going to be an efficient bigot, at least educate yourself on the subject.
2013-02-15 04:50:08 AM  
1 votes:

Smoking GNU: mr lawson: Matthew Keene: mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!

I have always had very vivid dreams. The ones that come true freak me out. The worry about this fireball dream is that usually when I veer into the psychic realm, it's really really bad. So barring the Russian authorities finding an orphanage with 3000 dead kids that's been struck by a fragment, I fear  this is not the end of it.

welcome to reality.

I have you farkied now as the oracle


I truly hope that this is it, but I'm not going to bet the ranch on it. In my dream i pointed up and told a friend to look up at the two fireballs showing through the clouds, followed by others, and there were large fires burning from impacts in Cincinnati, where I live. My 9/11 dream took place in Cincinnati, so don't read any location into it. Bet you didn't know the Twin Towers were in Cincinnati. Government hides a lot from us, lol. I dreamed Kennedy died in Columbus, Georgia, where I was living at the time.
2013-02-15 04:47:25 AM  
1 votes:
2013-02-15 04:33:52 AM  
1 votes:
This video was taken right underneath the contrail just before - and during - the shockwave.

The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.
2013-02-15 04:33:41 AM  
1 votes:
Too bad it didn't fall somewhere useful... like Mecca.
2013-02-15 04:25:30 AM  
1 votes:

Triumph: http://themoscownews.com/russia/20130215/191238274/Zhirinovsky-no-met e orites-its-new-US-weapons-test.html

Zhirinovsky: no meteorites, it's new US weapons test
 The leader of Russia's Liberal Democratic Party and vice speaker of the State Duma Vladimir Zhirinovsky accused on Friday the United States of testing new weapons over Russia immediately after reports of a meteorite explosion appeared..."(US State Secretary) John Kerry tried warning (Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov) on Monday, but failed," Zhirinovsky said, obviously referring to reports that Lavrov on a visit to Africa had failed to answer Kerry's repeated phone calls.


This is also the guy who wants to limit the amount of times people can have sex to once per quarter.
2013-02-15 04:24:11 AM  
1 votes:

Triumph: Live Updates:
http://rt.com/news/russia-meteor-meteorite-asteroid-chelyabinsk-291/


fta:  7:40 GMT: Vice Premier Dmitry Rogozin wrote on Twitter that he will offer suggestions to Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on how to prevent or mitigate meteorite damage in future.

Lol.
2013-02-15 04:21:52 AM  
1 votes:
It is getting late and I really should quit following this story and go to bed, but I don't want to close my eyes.  I don't want to fall asleep 'cuz I'll miss the news, and I don't want to miss A THING.

/especially if the Wonder Twins' will-o-the-wisp-induced psychic visions pan out
//fingers crossed...I'm dialing James Randi's number now!
2013-02-15 04:21:07 AM  
1 votes:
I would honestly upgrade this to a newsflash tag. If some cripple shooting a woman in South Africa gets one, this should most assuredly get one.
2013-02-15 04:13:50 AM  
1 votes:

cc_rider: I hope everyone remembered to bring their towel

[i28.photobucket.com image 850x637]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojydNb3Lrrs

Got a few spares in case anyone needs them....
2013-02-15 04:06:26 AM  
1 votes:
going to bed.... fark this
2013-02-15 04:05:33 AM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Triumph: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kvHl5Qcnzc

CCTV footage. With all the windows blown out, all those buildings gonna get cold fast.

I've seen a few updates stating that roughly 100 people were injured, mostly by flying glass from the windows.


Some are now saying up to 400 injured.
2013-02-15 04:05:16 AM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: GranoblasticMan: What... the fark happened to your brain?!

Was sexually molested as a child. That might have cause some wiring issues.

Yiiiikes

... Well, assuming you're not trolling, that's some major baggage to deal with, and I definitely sympathize.
2013-02-15 04:02:50 AM  
1 votes:

GranoblasticMan: What... the fark happened to your brain?!


Was sexually molested as a child. That might have cause some wiring issues.
2013-02-15 04:02:48 AM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: Actually a practicing Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran, formerly Catholic.


hummm...ok...kills that theory. :-)
2013-02-15 04:01:13 AM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: mr lawson: I..am assuming.. are an atheist. Correct?

Actually a practicing Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran, formerly Catholic.


What... the fark happened to your brain?!
2013-02-15 03:57:39 AM  
1 votes:
Beware your car in the morning.
michaelhutchenceandme.files.wordpress.com
2013-02-15 03:55:20 AM  
1 votes:

radarlove: GranoblasticMan: radarlove: Holy shiat, get a room already.  We're trying to have an apocalypse here.

YEAH, DUH! This is my last friggin chance!

If you're trying to get emergency poon on Fark, you might as well just become a rapist or a necrophile.  It would be a step up.


When you're not in a relationship, isn't ALL poon emergency poon?
2013-02-15 03:53:29 AM  
1 votes:

rwa2: Notabunny: Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian

My wife says it translates more into "fark!"

She doesn't know what "blatt" translates to... she just knows that it's bad.


Yebat is fark, but its the verb. Blyat is also kind of like fark!!!!, but its more the exclamation/intensifier use of it.
2013-02-15 03:48:29 AM  
1 votes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kvHl5Qcnzc

CCTV footage. With all the windows blown out, all those buildings gonna get cold fast.
2013-02-15 03:46:57 AM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!

I have always had very vivid dreams. The ones that come true freak me out. The worry about this fireball dream is that usually when I veer into the psychic realm, it's really really bad. So barring the Russian authorities finding an orphanage with 3000 dead kids that's been struck by a fragment, I fear  this is not the end of it.


. To quote "The Avengers"...The  world has gotten even  stranger than you already know
2013-02-15 03:42:48 AM  
1 votes:

mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!


I have always had very vivid dreams. The ones that come true freak me out. The worry about this fireball dream is that usually when I veer into the psychic realm, it's really really bad. So barring the Russian authorities finding an orphanage with 3000 dead kids that's been struck by a fragment, I fear  this is not the end of it.
2013-02-15 03:41:50 AM  
1 votes:
Good or bad timing Had the East Med event in 2002 hit further east, being the time of the India/Pakistan standoff; that would have become more interesting; but not the good interesting. Likewise had the Tunguska object hit St Petersburg

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Mediterranean_event

That said if this is a swarm or string other sites west on that path could get something? However sparse pop areas and then the Atlantic.
2013-02-15 03:38:53 AM  
1 votes:
My link was better but Fark hates me I give up my links never get on :(
2013-02-15 03:38:34 AM  
1 votes:
btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!
2013-02-15 03:34:17 AM  
1 votes:

mr lawson: i swear to god...i  dreamed this last night...I am a god damn freak of nature....it wouldn't be so bad if  it was an isolated case...but it ain't.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! WTF!


I sorta kinda believe you I mean I have dreams about the weather that come true although this last time I told someone before it happened and then it didn't happen, wtf : (
2013-02-15 03:31:40 AM  
1 votes:

duffblue: Would there be a sound from it entering the atmosphere and then traveling through it? Like sonic booms? A massive object moving that fast would make a lot of noise before it even hit the ground right? Would explain the multiple blasts tha don't sound like echoes.


It would make a lot of noise - but it'd be moving a hell of a lot faster than that noise.  Earth is traveling through space at almost 70,000 mph, and even something dropping out of low Earth orbit is going to be traveling at about  mach 20 on re-entry.  At too oblique of an angle, non-orbital junk will just skip off the atmosphere and head back into space.  If something's coming in from a non-orbital trajectory at a more acute angle, it's probably moving pretty damn fast, so it can go scorching by - maybe causing some localized atmospheric crackling, maybe not - plenty of time before its shock wave.
2013-02-15 03:31:07 AM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: mr lawson: i swear to god...i  dreamed this last night...I am a god damn freak of nature....it wouldn't be so bad if  it was an isolated case...but it ain't.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! WTF!

Same here. I'm just hoping it's the end of it, because my dream had serious fires and casualties. But yeah, fireballs in the sky. I shiat you not. Dreamed of 9/11 the week before, also, so that's the worry. My ESP gland appears to work only when really bad shiats about to happen.


question... did you ever see a blue ball of light (st elmos fire) in your life?
2013-02-15 03:30:36 AM  
1 votes:

mr lawson: Matthew Keene: mr lawson: i swear to god...i  dreamed this last night...I am a god damn freak of nature....it wouldn't be so bad if  it was an isolated case...but it ain't.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! WTF!

Same here. I'm just hoping it's the end of it, because my dream had serious fires and casualties. But yeah, fireballs in the sky. I shiat you not. Dreamed of 9/11 the week before, also, so that's the worry. My ESP gland appears to work only when really bad shiats about to happen.

dude.....one time is a coincidence, twice a picularity , three or more...it's a trend. WTF?!?!?!?!?!?


Had dreams about Kennedy dying as a child also. Family thought I was going nutzo, since I was just eight.
2013-02-15 03:28:12 AM  
1 votes:

Matthew Keene: mr lawson: i swear to god...i  dreamed this last night...I am a god damn freak of nature....it wouldn't be so bad if  it was an isolated case...but it ain't.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! WTF!

Same here. I'm just hoping it's the end of it, because my dream had serious fires and casualties. But yeah, fireballs in the sky. I shiat you not. Dreamed of 9/11 the week before, also, so that's the worry. My ESP gland appears to work only when really bad shiats about to happen.


dude.....one time is a coincidence, twice a picularity , three or more...it's a trend. WTF?!?!?!?!?!?
2013-02-15 03:26:48 AM  
1 votes:
So far this week we have the Pope quitting, a nuclear explosion, and a giant meteor. That's really enough, don't you think?
2013-02-15 03:26:42 AM  
1 votes:
Here's some other pictures of the Zinc Factory that bought it.

brentandtimmy.dotster.com

brentandtimmy.dotster.com

/behold the power of the mighty MS Paint and screen captures
//all your meteorite photo are belong to us(a)!
2013-02-15 03:26:31 AM  
1 votes:

Gordon Bennett: [i3.ytimg.com image 320x180]


What a Russian boom might look like.


No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here! Boom. Sooner or later. BOOM!
2013-02-15 03:25:03 AM  
1 votes:

mr lawson: i swear to god...i  dreamed this last night...I am a god damn freak of nature....it wouldn't be so bad if  it was an isolated case...but it ain't.....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! WTF!


Same here. I'm just hoping it's the end of it, because my dream had serious fires and casualties. But yeah, fireballs in the sky. I shiat you not. Dreamed of 9/11 the week before, also, so that's the worry. My ESP gland appears to work only when really bad shiats about to happen.
2013-02-15 03:18:16 AM  
1 votes:
So you are telling me that a meteor leaves a double contrail, a meteor gets shot down by air defense, and a second meteor just HAPPENS to land dead center on an industrial target?

I suppose its possible.
2013-02-15 03:17:38 AM  
1 votes:

DeadBaby: I saw a huge meteor break up in the sky when I was 15 years old in the summer of 2001. I was on a camping trip with some friends and he had just crossed over into Canada and found a camp ground to stay for the night. I was being a young stupid hard ass, so I thought I'd rough it and sleep on a picnic table while everyone else was in tents or the camper.

Luckily for me, I was able to see the most amazing thing I'll probably ever see. I saw this really bright light start to come through the trees and at first I thought it was a spotlight on a helicopter, even though I couldn't hear anything like a helicopter. So I was lying there and this light starts cascading through the trees and the spot of light travels from the edge of the sky where my feet were point towards my head, so basically along my body.

At about the time it was directly overhead it started to seriously break up into small fragments but the fragments kept going and going. I sat up on the table and watched as they kept on going over me and past me, out towards the horizon.

I was pretty well in shock because the damn thing had been huge and I had never seen anything like it. So I got up and started waking up everyone else to try and catch the end of it. People got up and were tired but encouraging but they just wanted to go back to bed.

So after maybe thirty seconds I was back on my table and I heard this amazing BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM and I could feel it throughout my entire body. It's been 12 years, so I can't say for sure, but it felt like it went on for a long time. Everyone got back out of their tents and got up to look around. At first I thought maybe the meteor had hit something, but then I realized it was just a very delayed sonic boom and that the meteor had been VERY high up in the atmosphere.

It was a very awesome experience and from then on I always sleep on the picnic table if I get the chance.


Cool story, bro.

Seriously.  That's awesome.
2013-02-15 03:16:30 AM  
1 votes:

brantgoose: This meteorite is unlikely to be related to DA14. Remember that the Earth is travelling at 66,000 mph (108,000 km per hour) in its orbit--in 12 hours it travels nearly 800,000 miles or 1,300,000 kilometers. Assuming that the asteroid will pass us at a nearly perpendicular angle, this meteorite is probably not a chunk of the same rock--when an object breaks up at high speed in space, the pieces more or less stay in the same orbit and fairly close together. If you look at multiple craters, they form a series not unlike bullets fired from an airplane. There are several examples on websites dedicated to meteorite impacts as well as double craters (you can see many examples of these on Mars and the Moon).

We annually pass through meteor showers that are the debris of disintegrated comets and meteors and these hit us in a buckshot pattern from a point centered around the path of the comet or asteroid of which they were part.

From what I have gathered from a quick and superficial reading of web posts, the object was probably a lot smaller than DA14, which would have an impact of about 3 megatonnes, close to the Tunguska event, which flattened thousands of square miles of Siberian spruce and which was observed from thousands of miles away. This object seems to have hit less than 250 miles from the sightings which means it was impressive but not unheard of in size or speed. There are many "Fortean" reports of bright objects in the sky and the noises (explosions, sizzling, hissing) associated with them. This is a rare event but has probably happened a number of times in your lifetme with somewhat smaller explosions.

It probably broke up about 26,000-36,000 feet up. The delay between the sightings and the boom is due to the fact that it is much higher and faster than it looks when it passed over the cameras, and thus more distant than you might think when it hit.

I have seen a meteor break up (silently, and thus far away) but it was nothing like this one. That thing came i ...



I've seen 3 (and heard 2) two meteors break up in my life. Nothing near the power of this one. The two I heard were both when I was at lakes. I suppose having the clear view over open water made them really noticeable. The sonic booms were more sonic cracks and were more like distant gunshots that arrived 8-10 seconds after the flash / streak. They were both pretty cool. One of the ones I saw / heard was at night, the other two I saw / heard during the day.
Also: you saw a meteor FALL for 15 minutes? Gotta say: you saw a UFO, then. It definitely wasn't a meteor.
2013-02-15 03:10:46 AM  
1 votes:
Every five seconds the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city-buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means, Sir Isaac Newton was the deadliest son-of-a-biatch in space.
2013-02-15 03:05:53 AM  
1 votes:

SJKebab: Apparently I don't know how to copy a twitter post now, but Phil is convinced its a coincidence.


Can't say i'm too surprised. Telling everyone there's nothing to worry about seems to be his raison d'etre.

/must sleep
//hopefully i won't wake up to a sonic boom like that
2013-02-15 03:05:39 AM  
1 votes:
"the meteorite was intercepted by an air defense unit at the Urzhumka settlement near Chelyabinsk. A missile salvo reportedly blew the meteorite to pieces at an altitude of 20 kilometers."

Either the impact or the detonation of Russian missiles cause an EMP burst which has knocked out the phones in the area.
2013-02-15 03:04:55 AM  
1 votes:
I think meteors are considered an act of God. So good luck with that insurance claim.
2013-02-15 02:59:57 AM  
1 votes:
Well I don't care. It's a good excuse to lay on the deck with the kids, bundle up and look for meteors Friday night.
2013-02-15 02:59:37 AM  
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fusillade762: recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...

Maybe that was the sound of impact and not a sonic boom?


Sonic boom means it's traveling faster than sound.  Light does as well.  So you would easily see the physical results of the breakup long before the sound and shockwave hits you.
2013-02-15 02:54:40 AM  
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No worries. I just came.
2013-02-15 02:50:27 AM  
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SJKebab: Civil_War2_Time: It didn't "skip" off the atmosphere.

That was what I was trying to imply initially.

Civil_War2_Time: "Skipping" is a term used to describe that it was going faster than 17,500mph (escape velocity per 9.81m/s^2), and thus if it never slowed to that speed, it continued on through the atmosphere and on its way out if there was enough mass left.

You know, I never really thought it through properly. I always just had that mental image of a rock skipping over a pond when hit at just the right angle, and never thought about it again. Above in response to Kim Jong Un, I was forced to think it through a bit more and realised the physics are more complicated and so I have no idea what would be "expected" to happen like I originally thought I did.

That said though, I never really considered the possibility of an object aimed "just right" and plowing through the atmosphere, with enough escape velocity at the end to ensure a safe exit. I always thought of it more as a "bounce" rather than a "pierce". I suppose the effect is the latter but its thought of as the former?

/tired and rambly now...


Yes, that can happen. For example, in 1972, US19720810 went through the atmosphere and continued on with an altered orbit. (I don't know if the orbital elements for are best-guesses based on the footage, or if subsequent researchers have actually found an object consistent with the one that caused the '72 fireball.)
2013-02-15 02:39:31 AM  
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apparently a chunk hit this building, judging by the damage it was at most softball sized (my estimate)

pbs.twimg.com
2013-02-15 02:32:57 AM  
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B.L.Z. Bub: Am I going to die?


Yes.

(most likely not from meteor though)
2013-02-15 02:31:02 AM  
1 votes:
Am I going to die?
2013-02-15 02:29:01 AM  
1 votes:
Here are late-breaking before and after pictures showing the devastation in Chelyabinsk caused by the meteorite shower.

ic.pics.livejournal.com
2013-02-15 02:25:11 AM  
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When is this hitting the nothwest?  I want to show my kids if I can.  I mean if you are going to go out do it well!

/I am serious
2013-02-15 02:21:31 AM  
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Boojum2k: tinfoil-hat maggie: SJKebab: tinfoil-hat maggie: Confabulat: What's with the dual contrails?

It broke up?

That's just mean.  Where's the valentines day spirit?

Sorry, but I'm not into it being single might have something to do with it but I get broken up enough.

Have you ever caused evacuations in a Russian city?


Well I've never been to Russia so...
2013-02-15 02:19:21 AM  
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SJKebab: 12349876: WorldCitizen: Giltric: Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.

And the big hole in that building?

The sonic boom caused a weak roof to collapse. My guess.

How do you get a sonic boom to reach ground level if the meteor skips off the atmosphere?


The Earth's atmosphere is relatively thin with respect to the circumference of the Earth. From that perspective something can cut right through the atmosphere and miss crashing into the Earth and it would still look like it just skipped off the atmosphere.

And... sonic booms can travel very far.
2013-02-15 02:16:22 AM  
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Warchild: Fark broke Russian machine (that never breaks)


It's still working for me, but the original link got farked up fast.
2013-02-15 02:15:13 AM  
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ontariolightning: Meteorite type explosions being reported in germany and finland


Link?

Doggonit... this asteroid is just defecating its lovely contents all over us.
2013-02-15 02:14:44 AM  
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amindofiron: I always assumed it was going to take a nice several kiloton nickel iron based tap on the shoulder before humanity got it's head out of it's ass and decided to put up a proper skyguard. I really hope this was enough rather then having to wait for one of these to actually *land* on a major city.


This.

This cartoon is 13 years old, and was originally about 2000 SG344. Still relevant for 2011 AG5, and, it would seem, for this week.

i.imgur.com

Now we can haz a fully-funded spaceguard/skyguard programme? It doesn't matter whether it's implemented like GPS/GLONASS/Compass/Galileo for navigation (separate national efforts that can be used by anyone), or if it's implemented broadly by international convention like the protocols to restore the ozone layer were. It's a basic piece of shared planetary infrastructure that ought to be standard issue for any civilization capable of orbital spaceflight.
The more things change, the more they stay the same, and maybe what we needed was a good kick in our complacency.
2013-02-15 02:13:43 AM  
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2013-02-15 02:11:56 AM  
1 votes:
Meteorite type explosions being reported in germany and finland
2013-02-15 02:09:34 AM  
1 votes:

Warchild: Fark broke Russian machine (that never breaks)


In Fark breaks Soviet Union
2013-02-15 02:07:57 AM  
1 votes:
Fark broke Russian machine (that never breaks)
2013-02-15 02:06:10 AM  
1 votes:
OK, that's fuq'd up.
2013-02-15 02:05:33 AM  
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Well nice knowing you Internets.  The panic has started.  "Asteroid in near earth miss causes damage in Russia"


.   http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000077369&story_title=Worl d :%20Asteroid%20in%20near%20earth%20miss%20cause%20damage%20in%20Russia
2013-02-15 02:04:06 AM  
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PreMortem: That was a helluva lot of energy.

Looking forward to estimates of how big it was pre-entry, once they figure out what it was made of.


1. TWSS
2. You'll need a baby arm for comparison
3. Pure beefcake, baby
2013-02-15 02:01:41 AM  
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WorldCitizen: Giltric: Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.

And the big hole in that building?


if this is the big red brick building, there are intact windows on that. think that would be the case if a hunk of space junk slammed into it at mach 5 or so?
2013-02-15 02:00:37 AM  
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lousyskater: Hope they have meteor insurance.


They do, unfortunately once it is on Earth it is a meteorite and they didn't get that coverage. DENIED.

(That said, the irony is that meteor damage is likely to net you money. Meteorites are worth a lot of money. And a meteorite that is as fresh as this one, is worth a farkton. If you can get one before it rains or gets wet, its worth a lot to scientists. Basically its a space rock, delivered on their doorstep, with no contamination. The last time we got a hold of any significant amount of untainted extraterrestrial rock was during the Apollo missions. There were a few in between, but not of any significant amount, so something like this is worth millions.
2013-02-15 02:00:24 AM  
1 votes:
This would have never happened if we had meteors of our own.
2013-02-15 02:00:19 AM  
1 votes:
Thankfully the Russians didnt think we were attacking them and start turning keys in retaliation.
2013-02-15 01:59:53 AM  
1 votes:

Giltric: Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.


And the big hole in that building?
2013-02-15 01:58:46 AM  
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That was a helluva lot of energy.

Looking forward to estimates of how big it was pre-entry, once they figure out what it was made of.
2013-02-15 01:57:43 AM  
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netgamer7k: Why are there multiple booms? One video I saw had almost a dozen booms. Did the rock split in pieces, or do sound waves travel oddly?


Just guessing but it looked like it exploded in or skipped out of the atmosphere.

In most of the vids I've seen the contrail and light first appears then the light gets super bright right around where the double contrail is persisting then the contrail thins out and disappears.

The multiple booms would be a combo of it exploding and all the individual pieces generating their own shockwaves.
2013-02-15 01:56:41 AM  
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crumblecat: Hmm...............

Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?


Reuters: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-russia-meteorite-idUSBRE 9 1E05Z20130215
2013-02-15 01:56:14 AM  
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amindofiron: recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...

very likely this is a speed of sound vs. speed of light issue. those contrails are *waaaay* the hell up in the upper atmosphere and the booms have to travel far slower then the photons that carry the image to the camera.


Yeah, the speed of sound is about 340 m/s. So for a 30-60 second delay, you're talking about a 10-20 km distance. Which seems plausible from the images.
2013-02-15 01:55:52 AM  
1 votes:
For farks sake just give the Loonies their independence already.

/Simon Jester lines up another shot
2013-02-15 01:55:00 AM  
1 votes:

Bill_Wick's_Friend: О, я потратил свою жизнь


Blat!
2013-02-15 01:54:41 AM  
1 votes:
Blowout soon, Stalker.
2013-02-15 01:53:55 AM  
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clear_prop: recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...

Sounds moves slow.  We don't have anyway to just distance/size in the contrails.

Watching shuttle launches from outside of KSC, it takes a good 15-20seconds for the sound to reach you and the shuttle is high in the sky by that point.


Makes sense, thanks.
2013-02-15 01:53:21 AM  
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recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


Judging by the height of those trails the object probably hit 20 miles away. I'm probably overestimating but it definitely hit far off from th camera. The video showing all of the smaller blasts is curious though.
2013-02-15 01:52:18 AM  
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The UK just voted for gay marriage about two weeks ago. Coincidence? I think not...
2013-02-15 01:52:00 AM  
1 votes:
Why are there multiple booms? One video I saw had almost a dozen booms. Did the rock split in pieces, or do sound waves travel oddly?
2013-02-15 01:51:00 AM  
1 votes:

crumblecat: Hmm...............

Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?


BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
2013-02-15 01:48:04 AM  
1 votes:
So was that fire or brimstone?
2013-02-15 01:47:40 AM  
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OneFretAway: PowerSlacker: Shouldn't a second meteorite be hitting the south tower right now?

Too soon.



Dude, it's been 12 years almost
2013-02-15 01:46:15 AM  
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Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...
2013-02-15 01:46:03 AM  
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The 12 hour difference between this strike and the main meteor's projected path would put it somewhere over the USA, if coming from the same general direction, yes?
2013-02-15 01:45:33 AM  
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Notabunny: Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian



It's the E bomb.
A lot like the F bomb, only in Russian.
2013-02-15 01:43:53 AM  
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tinfoil-hat maggie: Confabulat: What's with the dual contrails?

It broke up?



What's the difference between this and a bolide?
2013-02-15 01:43:20 AM  
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sforce: My headline and submission time was better and earlier. Yes, I'm whining, it's late.

That said, RT has good updates.

And they're claiming "Urals meteorite shot down by Russian air defense" ... really? Is that possible, I thought meteorites would be way too fast for something like that.


Yeah, there's no way they could target it and get a missile launched in time.
2013-02-15 01:42:19 AM  
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Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!


upload.wikimedia.org

Time to start filling the bathtub....
2013-02-15 01:41:46 AM  
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netgamer7k: RELEASE THE HORDES OF CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!


I have to sleep, but i'm sure someone can fill in for me, albeit poorly.

To tide you over, i saw a thread on a 'conspiracy' site about a week ago showing other inbound meteors coming close around the same time as DA14, and the MSM is being suspiciously silent about them. We could be heading into a whole patch of this stuff.
2013-02-15 01:39:53 AM  
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Ack ack!  Ack!  Ack ack ack ack!  Ack!  Ack ack ack!  Ack ack ack ack.  Ack ack ack ack ack!  Ack ack ack ack ack ack?  Ack!  Ack ack ack ack ack.

/learning on Rosetta Stone just in case
2013-02-15 01:38:49 AM  
1 votes:
s.66.ru

Hope they have meteor insurance.
2013-02-15 01:38:45 AM  
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Elvis_Bogart: sforce: And they're claiming "Urals meteorite shot down by Russian air defense" ... really? Is that possible, I thought meteorites would be way too fast for something like that.

If this is true...than the whole story just got a lot more interesting.


Absolutely.  That's is way beyond anything I thought any military was capable of.  Aren't we still struggling with accomplishing the same thing with a single ICBM?  I would think that a meteor has to be moving much faster than that.
2013-02-15 01:38:36 AM  
1 votes:
A meteorite has landed!
2013-02-15 01:38:25 AM  
1 votes:
There's probably more than a few Russian doomsday preppers holed up in their underground bunkers drinking vodka and having sex with their hot Russian brides.

/I'm in my basement
//*sips vodka and sprite*
///I was browsing a Russian mail order bride website a couple hours ago
////small world we live in
2013-02-15 01:35:33 AM  
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No one shut off their radio and said the Russian equivalent of "HOLY shiat WHAT THE fark WAS THAT???"
2013-02-15 01:35:32 AM  
1 votes:
Getting 503s on all links.
2013-02-15 01:32:23 AM  
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Quaker: Russian meteorite? Be on the lookout for this guy:
[i5.photobucket.com image 800x450]


Krychek was a biatch
2013-02-15 01:32:05 AM  
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2013-02-15 01:30:41 AM  
1 votes:

sforce: And they're claiming "Urals meteorite shot down by Russian air defense" ... really? Is that possible, I thought meteorites would be way too fast for something like that.


If this is true...than the whole story just got a lot more interesting.
2013-02-15 01:29:40 AM  
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Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: netgamer7k: RELEASE THE HORDES OF CONSPIRACY THEORISTS

That could be fun! Let's see....

DA14 is actually an alien mothership and one of their stealthed orbital drones misfired a "rod from god" over Russia.


Okay, but when the Foot comes down we're all in for it.

/Climbing fithp FTW
2013-02-15 01:29:26 AM  
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sforce: My headline and submission time was better and earlier. Yes, I'm whining, it's late.

That said, RT has good updates.

And they're claiming "Urals meteorite shot down by Russian air defense" ... really? Is that possible, I thought meteorites would be way too fast for something like that.


Right now they're saying that Dolph Lundgren counterpunched it and that caused most of the damage. .
2013-02-15 01:28:03 AM  
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Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!


Bloody.

Hell.
2013-02-15 01:26:28 AM  
1 votes:
My headline and submission time was better and earlier. Yes, I'm whining, it's late.

That said, RT has good updates.

And they're claiming "Urals meteorite shot down by Russian air defense" ... really? Is that possible, I thought meteorites would be way too fast for something like that.
2013-02-15 01:25:07 AM  
1 votes:
Here's a Russian language blog of the meteor: http://zyalt.livejournal.com/722930.html Has a ton of vids and pictures.
2013-02-15 01:24:15 AM  
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2013-02-15 01:22:43 AM  
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germ78: Crazy. This site has a bit of info up now. Apparently a zinc plant had its roof blown off.

/yay dashcams!


No need to panic.  The Canadian goalie for the hockey team there who played 24 games for Atlanta in 2005-6 is alright.
2013-02-15 01:22:34 AM  
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Twitch Boy: Does this mean gas is gonna go back up to $4 a gallon?


Dude, it's already at $4.13 today.
2013-02-15 01:22:01 AM  
1 votes:
RELEASE THE HORDES OF CONSPIRACY THEORISTS!

www.theunticket.com
2013-02-15 01:21:48 AM  
1 votes:

Notabunny: Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian


My wife says it translates more into "fark!"

She doesn't know what "blatt" translates to... she just knows that it's bad.
2013-02-15 01:17:33 AM  
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cantsleep: Damn mayans were lousy with math.


They forgot to carry a Baktun
2013-02-15 01:17:22 AM  
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I love that the global apocalypse is beginning on Valentine's Day.

Burn, motherfarkers.

/was the only person in my office the past two days not loudly announcing plans for a big date
//sob
2013-02-15 01:14:53 AM  
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Herr Docktor Heinrich Wisenheimer: I wonder if they're little chunks that were sharing DA14's trajectory. If so there ought to be more incoming.

Bring your umbrella!


My advice is to start drinking heavily.
2013-02-15 01:14:19 AM  
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Obama's fault.
2013-02-15 01:14:07 AM  
1 votes:
Damn mayans were lousy with math.
2013-02-15 01:13:41 AM  
1 votes:
Yet another catastrophic  result of global warming.
2013-02-15 01:11:58 AM  
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This is the fastest green I have seen in years
2013-02-15 01:10:30 AM  
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I bet it takes awhile to process seeing something like that.
2013-02-15 12:59:21 AM  
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I will save Liv!! :)
2013-02-15 12:53:55 AM  
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Perhaps Bruce Willis failed after all?

/seriously, holy fark
 
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