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(Russian Machine Never Breaks)   At least one meteor strike confirmed in Chelyabinsk, Russia. Conflicting reports suggest moderate damage, possible evacuations underway. (w/multiple dash cam video HolyFarkness) (now w/working link)   (russianmachineneverbreaks.com) divider line 773
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2013-02-15 12:48:06 PM  

gaspode: Thanks for your posts andromeda, and much respect for doing the pleasant (lol) work of dealing with loonies. Our resident astronomer here in kiwiland is all set up for the asteroid with our main computerised scope and he has been fielding calls constantly poorr bugger.

Kind of pissed here, got things set up to at least have an amateur look at the thing and now it has clouded right over.. grr.


has it already passed ?

/west coast u.s.a.
//would like to stare dumbly up at sky
__ __   <--  fallen over slashie!  - saw this earlier in the thread.. lol'd
 
2013-02-15 12:48:10 PM  
media.screened.com
 
2013-02-15 12:51:29 PM  

ransack.: star_topology: Bathia_Mapes: Macular Degenerate: In other news, all police in Russia listen to bad dance music in their cruisers.

/who else has dashcams?

Practically everyone who drives in Russia. Police presence is spread thin and in some areas corruption is rife.

Having a dashcam is essential. If you're in an accident it will show who is at fault. People deliberately throwing themselves in front of your car and then claiming you hurt them is common. Watch some of the Russian dashcam videos and you'll see how bad many of drivers are.

Good to know. Was just wondering this myself.

In other news, this thread is why I love fark. It has all the snarkies and smarties I've come to expect from being part of this community for about a decade.

about a decade? n00b!


It's cute when the little kids fight.
 
2013-02-15 12:53:06 PM  
that's no moon

/anyone covered that yet?
 
2013-02-15 01:09:52 PM  

ransack.: Frozboz: ransack.: about a decade? n00b!

Careful.  Someone's always been here longer than you.

Yeah there are at least two Liters I know of with lower numbers than mine... I never win when it's really important :[


I think my original handle's number is lower than yours.
 
2013-02-15 01:10:16 PM  
Assuming that they can recover significant samples of the meteorite, I wonder what the chances are that we'll find that it is made of a material that we have not previously seen?
 
2013-02-15 01:12:46 PM  

WorldCitizen: ransack.: Frozboz: ransack.: about a decade? n00b!

Careful.  Someone's always been here longer than you.

Yeah there are at least two Liters I know of with lower numbers than mine... I never win when it's really important :[

I think my original handle's number is lower than yours.


At 60K, mine only seems low now, compared to the newest folks.

Perhaps we should hand out 'veteran rewards', like they do for MMO players, or maybe even some accolades.  For example, users who have more than 90% of their greenlights in the Politics tab (likely includes me) get the "citation needed" accolade
 
2013-02-15 01:19:42 PM  
I don't get why everyone is so worried about asteroids. We know how to deal with asteroids! My dad and grandpa even knew how to deal with asteroids! A little Preparation-H will clear them right up, and while you're waiting you sit on a donut-shaped air pillow. Simple.
 
2013-02-15 01:27:45 PM  

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


Sound travels less rapidly than light.  As a rule, you can estimate the distance of an explosion by counting the seconds between seeing the explosion and hearing it.

If it took 60 seconds to hear an explosion, then the explosion is 12 miles away.  If it took 30 seconds to hear an explosion, then the explosion is 6 miles away.
 
2013-02-15 01:34:11 PM  

drewbob21: Is it time to invade Klendathu yet?


images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-02-15 01:42:54 PM  

Jekylman: bhcompy: SlothB77: p4p3rm4t3: SlothB77: Asteroid 2012 DA14 will pass closest to earth at 2:24 p.m. EST/1924 GMT, so plenty of chance for more fireworks to come.


According to Bad Astronomer they are on totally different orbits.

[img593.imageshack.us image 685x921]
Estimated trajectory based on videos and pictures uploaded by witnesses. Could be wrong.  Just guessing.

Bad Astronomy Blog

So the Russian meteorite wasn't a fragment of DA14?  I just assumed it was because of the timing.  What are the odds a rare event like that occurred the same exact day this other asteroid passes this close to earth and the two events are unrelated?  Seems unlikely.  I dunno.  When I say rare, i mean the sonic boom and destruction and injuries, not rare as in meteorite striking earth.

The odds are astronomical

I would assume that the gravitational field of the known asteroid brought some friends with it.


BadAstronomy showed two completely different paths. Think it's just a cool coincidence... "Cool" being a purely relative term, of course.
 
2013-02-15 01:58:29 PM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Assuming that they can recover significant samples of the meteorite, I wonder what the chances are that we'll find that it is made of a material that we have not previously seen?


0%... We all just saw it on these dashcam videos...
 
2013-02-15 02:04:07 PM  

dbirchall: trappedspirit: trappedspirit: Cream of Meat: Cool stuff like this always seems to happen in Russia.

You have a strange definition of "cool stuff"

[i141.photobucket.com image 400x300]

The same, only different, kind of cool stuff sometimes happens in Oregonwashington, too.  Guy I used to work with took this:

[www.mnh.si.edu image 403x259]

ftfy
 
2013-02-15 02:05:41 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: dbirchall: trappedspirit: trappedspirit: Cream of Meat: Cool stuff like this always seems to happen in Russia.

You have a strange definition of "cool stuff"

[i141.photobucket.com image 400x300]

The same, only different, kind of cool stuff sometimes happens in Oregon, too.  Guy I used to work with took this:

[www.mnh.si.edu image 403x259]

Uhh....except that was in WA, not OR. There was no tree blow down whatsoever in OR from Mt. St. Helens. The blast went the other direction.


beat me to it

/watched it happen & played in the ash
/portland
 
2013-02-15 02:07:38 PM  

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2013-02-15 02:19:12 PM  

star_topology: Bathia_Mapes: The Snow Dog: THANK YOU BATHIA MAPES! I just saw my TotalFarkedness! You're A-OK! I'll try not to get all uppity now that I'm high class, baby!

You're welcome. :-)

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Have fun!

Hey I got one too! What will I do with this shiny new TF subscription? Thank you!!


post something stupid in TF discussion.  or check out all the non green foobies links.. or... check out how many times and from how many different news sources a story gets posted and you will realize why you get so few greens.
 
2013-02-15 02:28:30 PM  
I wish I could math right now. So much. Because I want to be part of whatever team analyzes this and figures out how to predict these things.

Have I mentioned yet that HOLY FARK THIS IS AWESOME?!

/Must be terrifying for the people there, but holy fark...
 
2013-02-15 02:30:00 PM  

rwa2: Notabunny: Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!

So that's what "Holy shiat!" sounds like in Russian

My wife says it translates more into "fark!"

She doesn't know what "blatt" translates to... she just knows that it's bad.



Its "blyad." The soft sign adds a slight t sound to the end of the word which makes it sounds like blaat. Literally it means whore but is usually added to other curse words or strings of curse words and is usually a stand in for the word fu*k.
 
2013-02-15 02:44:01 PM  

PsiChick: Have I mentioned yet that HOLY FARK THIS IS AWESOME?!


dl.dropbox.com

The twelve hundred souls almost written off by Sir Isaac Newton are thinking it would be more awesome if it happened someplace else.

/Or if we could have warned them, at least.
/Not like that thing wasn't spinning around the sun for a few million years.
/All this damn technology and we can't see a rock coming? WTF HUMANITY?!
 
2013-02-15 02:47:51 PM  

Allen262: sforce: My headline and submission time was better and earlier. Yes, I'm whining, it's late.

That said, RT has good updates.

And they're claiming "Urals meteorite shot down by Russian air defense" ... really? Is that possible, I thought meteorites would be way too fast for something like that.

With what?!? Megalith?


Godsdammit, *cues up Ace Combat soundtracks, starting with Rex Tremendae*
 
2013-02-15 02:51:14 PM  

way south: PsiChick: Have I mentioned yet that HOLY FARK THIS IS AWESOME?!

[dl.dropbox.com image 660x495]

The twelve hundred souls almost written off by Sir Isaac Newton are thinking it would be more awesome if it happened someplace else.

/Or if we could have warned them, at least.
/Not like that thing wasn't spinning around the sun for a few million years.
/All this damn technology and we can't see a rock coming? WTF HUMANITY?!


Yes, I did point out it's horrible for them, my inner astronomy geek is just freaking out.

As for why we can't see a rock coming...um, because no one's  looking. When I was a kid I watched an edumacational video where an astronomer working on this particular topic pointed out that the sum total of people watching out for meteors, worldwide, is about the same as the employees of a McDonald's. That was  before everyone jumped on the 'why do we need this nothing's gonna happen' bandwagon.

We rely on outer space. We need to understand it. We need to be able to predict meteor showers and solar flares. We need people working on putting men on the moon and other such tasks, because space affects  us. And this might actually wake people up to that, although I doubt it. Me geeking out does not negate the fact that this represents a pretty big fail on humankind's part, and people are going to end up paying for it.
 
2013-02-15 03:03:05 PM  

PsiChick: way south: PsiChick: Have I mentioned yet that HOLY FARK THIS IS AWESOME?!

[dl.dropbox.com image 660x495]

The twelve hundred souls almost written off by Sir Isaac Newton are thinking it would be more awesome if it happened someplace else.

/Or if we could have warned them, at least.
/Not like that thing wasn't spinning around the sun for a few million years.
/All this damn technology and we can't see a rock coming? WTF HUMANITY?!

Yes, I did point out it's horrible for them, my inner astronomy geek is just freaking out.

As for why we can't see a rock coming...um, because no one's  looking. When I was a kid I watched an edumacational video where an astronomer working on this particular topic pointed out that the sum total of people watching out for meteors, worldwide, is about the same as the employees of a McDonald's. That was  before everyone jumped on the 'why do we need this nothing's gonna happen' bandwagon.

We rely on outer space. We need to understand it. We need to be able to predict meteor showers and solar flares. We need people working on putting men on the moon and other such tasks, because space affects  us. And this might actually wake people up to that, although I doubt it. Me geeking out does not negate the fact that this represents a pretty big fail on humankind's part, and people are going to end up paying for it.


People are looking for these. How do you see something that small if the sun is behind it?
 
2013-02-15 03:13:27 PM  

L33t Squirrel: you are a puppet: [thelifestream.net image 510x510]

Dadoody: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x552]

I was thinking the same thing. The time of Reunion is upon us! Praise Jenova!


Oh great--now on top of all this, we have the Jenova's Witnesses coming into the thread...

/in all seriousness, though, interesting that this is a separate meteor--the big one that just passed by was just the diversion whilst the universe beaned us with the rock-spitball from behind :D
 
2013-02-15 03:22:03 PM  

Procedural Texture: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.

Is it just me, or are portions of the contrail distinctly orange? Maybe it's just the sunrise, but it might also be evidence of the meteor's composition.


i42.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-15 03:23:29 PM  
Possible impact site:
i42.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-15 03:25:05 PM  

Max Awesome: Procedural Texture: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.

Is it just me, or are portions of the contrail distinctly orange? Maybe it's just the sunrise, but it might also be evidence of the meteor's composition.

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x634]


that's called fire....it happens when things explode
 
2013-02-15 03:29:01 PM  

inner ted: fanbladesaresharp: dbirchall: trappedspirit: trappedspirit: Cream of Meat: Cool stuff like this always seems to happen in Russia.

You have a strange definition of "cool stuff"

[i141.photobucket.com image 400x300]

The same, only different, kind of cool stuff sometimes happens in Oregon, too.  Guy I used to work with took this:

[www.mnh.si.edu image 403x259]

Uhh....except that was in WA, not OR. There was no tree blow down whatsoever in OR from Mt. St. Helens. The blast went the other direction.

beat me to it

/watched it happen & played in the ash
/portland


Ah, I sprawl corrected.  My knowledge of that event is somewhat lacking, since I was on the other coast at that point in my childhood.
 
2013-02-15 03:41:56 PM  

tweek46420: Max Awesome: Procedural Texture: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.

Is it just me, or are portions of the contrail distinctly orange? Maybe it's just the sunrise, but it might also be evidence of the meteor's composition.

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x634]

that's called fire....it happens when things explode


That's what I assumed it to be as well... I mean the thing WAS glowing brighter than the sun for a minute there...   I figured there was probably some super heated gasses and other materials in that cloud so it gave it a fiery appearance....
 
2013-02-15 03:42:07 PM  
Russian cameraman video records the contrail directly overhead.

And hears the voice of God.

I think he says something roughly equivalent to"I was not expecting that".

Can anyone translate for me?
 
2013-02-15 03:45:46 PM  
Good link for some 'play by play' information as the day wore on...


http://rt.com/news/russia-meteor-meteorite-asteroid-chelyabinsk-291/


I was hoping there would be more about this...   very interesting and exciting...   people seem sort of "ho-hum"    maybe since no one died....  ???
 
2013-02-15 03:47:43 PM  
Any word on how far away windows were blown out? I'd like to know what the results would be of one of them over a major city.
 
2013-02-15 03:52:34 PM  

wxboy: orclover: [rt.com image 640x480]
Superheated supersonic molten iron landing into a cold russian frozen lake.  All they are going to find of that thing is powder.

It's my (perhaps misguided) understanding that meteorites that reach the Earth's surface aren't actually that hot at impact, so there may well be something to find at the bottom of that lake.


Keep in mind that whatever made that tiny little hole in the surface ice on that lake was likely a just shaving off the meteor. The thing was traveling at ~Mach 88 when it hit the atmosphere, so even if it slowed to half of that in the few seconds before impact, it would take only a small piece to make a hole that size. Astronomers, feel free to correct me, but that's a pretty minor impact. If the meteor didn't break up into thousands of peices, there's a much bigger hole somewhere nearby.
 
2013-02-15 03:52:46 PM  
Slaxl

 I'd like to know what the results would be of one of them over a major city.

Based on this I'd say "light to moderate structure damage".

Doors blown in, most windows missing, in the hardest-hit areas.
 
2013-02-15 04:05:27 PM  

star_topology: The Snow Dog


You're welcome. As I advised The Snow Dog, go exploring and check out all the stuff that's TF only.
 
2013-02-15 04:14:56 PM  

Max Awesome: Procedural Texture: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.

Is it just me, or are portions of the contrail distinctly orange? Maybe it's just the sunrise, but it might also be evidence of the meteor's composition.

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x634]


The orange trail marks where the projectile reached 88 miles per hour.
 
2013-02-15 04:19:58 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: PowerSlacker: My local Fox affiliate is showing meteorite footage...nothing on CNN.

Awesome.

CNN always seems to be at the end of the line when a breaking news story hits. Fox, MSNBC, Reuters, etc. seem to beat them everytime.


Fox always seems like it's first to me because they will declare anything, ANYTHING to be a breaking news story.  Cat fell off a roof?  THIS IS SHEPARD SMITH!  We have unconfirmed reports that Bootsy fell off a roof in Alabama!  Stay tuned to find out if she's safe!
 
2013-02-15 04:27:07 PM  
jchuffyman:

I think you have that backwards. Cyrillic is easy as shiat to learn. However,the grammar can be retardedly difficult in certain circumstances. And Russian really isn't as phonetic as people say it is, more than English, but most languages are. Your experience with the language might be different, but in my experience, it is a pretty difficult language to attempt.

Well, I didn't say that Cyrillic was hard, just that for some people learning a new alphabet is another added level of difficulty.

Russian was actually my third language, my second being Morse.
 
2013-02-15 04:30:22 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: star_topology: The Snow Dog

You're welcome. As I advised The Snow Dog, go exploring and check out all the stuff that's TF only.


Just don't spoil the surprise hidden on the top secret UltraF..+++signal lost++ page.  Let them find it on their own.  ;)

/+20 to you for sharing the TF joy
 
2013-02-15 04:33:18 PM  

tweek46420: Max Awesome: Procedural Texture: Max Awesome: The contrail is really quite beautiful - you can see where at least two large chunks created their own swirling trails in the air - and then the blast hits.

Is it just me, or are portions of the contrail distinctly orange? Maybe it's just the sunrise, but it might also be evidence of the meteor's composition.

[i42.photobucket.com image 850x634]

that's called fire....it happens when things explode


You know your a hopeless radio geek when you see something like that and think "Gee, I bet I could bounce a pretty good 6 meter signal off the ionization trail that thing left".
 
2013-02-15 04:34:42 PM  

mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!


My ex fiance has the same thing happen rather frequently. If I hadn't seen it happen, I'd probably think you were nuts or full of shiat. You're neither of those things, you just have a gift/curse.
 
2013-02-15 04:55:17 PM  

dorkymidgetqueen: mr lawson: btw...i don't think I am insane (jury's out)...but.....i have be dealing with this shiat for waaaaaaaay too long.  Hell i maybe insane (Occam's razor and all)...but god damn it!

My ex fiance has the same thing happen rather frequently. If I hadn't seen it happen, I'd probably think you were nuts or full of shiat. You're neither of those things, you just have a gift/curse.


Cassandras tears.  they have the ability to see the future, but in a garbled way that rarely makes sense, and no one usually takes it at all seriously, so it's of no use whatsoever, but the visions usually cause long-term psychological damage.

Even the wizards of the White council are divided on if it is an actual affliction or a made up story for attention seeking people.
 
2013-02-15 05:00:36 PM  
sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-02-15 05:04:57 PM  
Makes you glad we haven't deployed these in space yet. Or at least that's what they say.
 
2013-02-15 05:07:06 PM  
Lemme get this straight: while scientists all over the freaking WORLD were tracking, for WEEKS, a meteorite that they knew would fly over Indonesia without a problem, a SECOND meteorite went UNNOTICED and crashed somewhere in Russia?!

Man, do our astronomers suck! >:-(
 
2013-02-15 05:25:17 PM  
700 posts and no reference to this movie yet?

I feel old

cokyday.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-15 05:28:09 PM  
Man, this shiat is nuts!  That's one hell of a BOOM.
 
2013-02-15 05:29:20 PM  
If that thing hit our property would we get to keep it?
 
2013-02-15 05:35:14 PM  
img571.imageshack.us
 
2013-02-15 05:55:27 PM  
It looks to me like the meteor was releasing so much energy along its flight path that the whole contrail became a linear mushroom cloud.
 
2013-02-15 06:02:16 PM  

studebaker hoch: Russian cameraman video records the contrail directly overhead.

And hears the voice of God.

I think he says something roughly equivalent to"I was not expecting that".

Can anyone translate for me?


Here's part of the conversation (from YT comments):

What was it after all?

-It was a blast. It seems like, from the meteorite.

-It exploded in the lower layers of the atmosphere?

-No, looks like somewhere further into the stratosphere. I do not know why so long the blast was.

- There will be more blasts, or what?

- How do I know? In any case, they are not a billion. Shortly, a meteorite exploded there and flew away.

- The flash was very bright. I'm still filled documents, I took off all the windows!

-Ye. All right. That's end.
 
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