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(Russian Machine Never Breaks)   At least one meteor strike confirmed in Chelyabinsk, Russia. Conflicting reports suggest moderate damage, possible evacuations underway. (w/multiple dash cam video HolyFarkness) (now w/working link)   (russianmachineneverbreaks.com ) divider line
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2013-02-15 06:34:49 AM  

LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.


Eastern Europe, Asia, and Australia.
 
2013-02-15 06:36:59 AM  
The comments box is sure acting weird lately. It chops up words when i don't hit "use html buttons". Whassup?
 
2013-02-15 06:37:39 AM  

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Dadoody: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x552]


I was thinking the same thing. The time of Reunion is upon us! Praise Jenova!
 
2013-02-15 06:38:07 AM  
m.ruvr.ru

I don't know; it looks like a street light to me
 
2013-02-15 06:38:35 AM  

LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.


Indian Ocean.
 
2013-02-15 06:38:56 AM  

Klund: via RT live:

11:19 GMT: The Russian military has explored a meteorite crater that is reportedly 6 meters in diameter; normal radiation levels were detected at the site.




Good to know it wasn't a nuke powered cold war sat. Though now lots of people may assume that meteorites have a chance of being radioactive
 
2013-02-15 06:39:45 AM  

Shadowtag: This is also the guy who wants to limit the amount of times people can have sex to once per quarter.


So, Russian Freepers?
 
2013-02-15 06:40:08 AM  
 
2013-02-15 06:40:13 AM  

The Snow Dog: The comments box is sure acting weird lately. It chops up words when  i don't hit "use html buttons". Whassup?


It looks like it's chopping it into 70 or so character long sections.
 
2013-02-15 06:40:30 AM  

LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.


Europe will have a chance at viewing it.

It will be trucking along pretty good, about 1 degree a minute, and is too small to see with naked eye so... you'll have to be pretty good to catch it and follow it with a telescope. 'Above-average amateur astronomer' good.
 
2013-02-15 06:40:37 AM  

Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!



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2013-02-15 06:40:39 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.

Indian Ocean.


Thanks.
 
2013-02-15 06:41:36 AM  
GOD HATES RUSSKIES!
 
2013-02-15 06:42:31 AM  

The Snow Dog: The comments box is sure acting weird lately. It chops up words when  i don't hit "use html buttons". Whassup?


Could be related to the fact that the new comments box is a steaming pile of big green donkey shiat and an unnecessary and pointless "web 2.0"-ing. Just a theory.
 
2013-02-15 06:43:13 AM  

Radioactive Ass: LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.

Eastern Europe, Asia, and Australia.


So when am I supposed to drink my Koolaid?
 
2013-02-15 06:43:19 AM  
"According to preliminary estimates, this space object is of non-technogenic origin and qualifies as a meteorite. It was moving at a low trajectory with a speed of about 30 km/s


That's over 67,000 mph!!!
 
2013-02-15 06:44:03 AM  

p4p3rm4t3: Andromeda: p4p3rm4t3: Andromeda: PreMortem: Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.

9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.

Do meteors break up outside our atmosphere, like by the sun? I wouldn't think so.

And if they do, do larger pieces arrive first then the smaller ones, vice-versa, or is there no usual pattern?

Sergey's kinda full of shiat- I mean technically there is a 100% chance of a meteorite entering our atmosphere in the next few hours (as hundreds do), but this size?  Not REALLY likely.

Meteors break up if they break up in our atmosphere.  There may be some lag based on their size but everything from this meteor has certainly already hit/ been seen.

Umm.. I'm not an Astronomer but... how can you say it's a one shot wonder?

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9
[img805.imageshack.us image 300x91]
"Over the next 6 days, 21 distinct impacts were observed" (July 1994)

That's a giant comet that broke up, of the sizes surveys can see.  This is a rock the size of the few meters.  Odds of another one following it are minimal, it has no gravitational hold.

Cosmic coincidences happen all the time.

(Btw, I just got a shout out on BBC's World Have Your Say discussing this. W00t!)

Certainly not hitting the same place, but I still don't see how you have come to the conclusion that this is a singular object?

Something very interesting:

"This date in science: Great Meteor Procession of February 9, 1913"

[img171.imageshack.us image 580x332]
"Canadian artist Gustav Hahn painted his impression of what the Great Meteor Procession looked like, ...


Yeah, notice how they're all traveling together?  That's because larger meteorites will often break up in the atmosphere- I've seen it a few times, and from the videos it looks like this one did too.

That does NOT mean however that it's likely this thing will have the last parts hit a few hours later though or anything like that, as these things travel really fast so any parts that broke off in the atmosphere has already landed.  We're like 8 hours after the initial impact; based on the size of this thing it's certainly not large enough to have a gravitational attraction to other pieces and keep them together.

That's not to say another rock can't wham into your bedroom tonight and shatter the glass while you sleep though.  Sweet dreams.
 
2013-02-15 06:44:41 AM  

MurphyMurphy: LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.

Europe will have a chance at viewing it.

It will be trucking along pretty good, about 1 degree a minute, and is too small to see with naked eye so... you'll have to be pretty good to catch it and follow it with a telescope. 'Above-average amateur astronomer' good.


Given that I'm in Michigan anyway....

Sigh
 
2013-02-15 06:45:48 AM  

Radioactive Ass: LaViergeNoire: Forgive me if this has been covered upthread, but does anyone know what part of the earth da14 is supposed to be closest to at 2pm EST? Where on the planet will astronomers get the best look at it, in other words.

Eastern Europe, Asia, and Australia.


Thank you.
 
2013-02-15 06:53:14 AM  

Triumph: 11:19 GMT: The Russian military has explored a meteorite crater that is reportedly 6 meters in diameter; normal radiation levels were detected at the site.

11:12 GMT: Nearly 725 people have requested medical assistance in regions hit by the meteor shower.

11:10 GMT: The meteorite blast in the Chelyabinsk region may be connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid, which will pass close to Earth tonight, Tatyana Borisevich from Pulkovo Observatory told Itar-Tass.


Don't worry about the 2012DA14 asteroid they said.
Nothing will hit Earth they said.
Expert FAIL again.
 
2013-02-15 06:55:27 AM  

p4p3rm4t3: Andromeda: PreMortem: Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.

9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.

Do meteors break up outside our atmosphere, like by the sun? I wouldn't think so.

And if they do, do larger pieces arrive first then the smaller ones, vice-versa, or is there no usual pattern?

Sergey's kinda full of shiat- I mean technically there is a 100% chance of a meteorite entering our atmosphere in the next few hours (as hundreds do), but this size?  Not REALLY likely.

Meteors break up if they break up in our atmosphere.  There may be some lag based on their size but everything from this meteor has certainly already hit/ been seen.

Umm.. I'm not an Astronomer but... how can you say it's a one shot wonder?

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9
[img805.imageshack.us image 300x91]
"Over the next 6 days, 21 distinct impacts were observed" (July 1994)



This meteor wouldn't be comparable to that event, in that that comet was one piece, then split up as it got caught in the gravity of Jupiter. Who is to say though that this and the asteroid due by today weren't part of a larger mass at one point. That mass, as it orbited around the sun (or swung by a larger planet) could have, as it cruised through its perigee and broken up while going fast enough that they didn't crash into the sun (or planet) but instead freight-trained off into space. What you would have then is a cluster or line of pieces of it orbiting in roughly the same ellipse. I think you're right there could be more pieces out there, but I would say that the point in time where the one object turned into several objects was a long time ago, so they'd be very spread out. I also think the big one we have spotted and is scheduled to miss us today is likely the biggest part by far. It would be cool to see a few pieces the size of the one that creased the sky (+ground) over Chelyabinsk come flying by this morning...
 
2013-02-15 06:56:59 AM  

Theory Of Null: This dashcam got a pretty good look at it.
[oi50.tinypic.com image 200x141]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gQ6Pa5Pv_io #t =275s


From the light appearing to the sonic boom, it's about 2.5 minutes, which works out to roughly 50km distance. That's over 30 miles away from that cam.
 
2013-02-15 06:57:24 AM  
How long before the giant ants and spiders start showing up?
 
2013-02-15 06:58:46 AM  

Andromeda: p4p3rm4t3: Andromeda: Cosmic coincidences happen all the time.

(Btw, I just got a shout out on BBC's World Have Your Say discussing this. W00t!)

Certainly not hitting the same place, but I still don't see how you have come to the conclusion that this is a singular object?

Something very interesting:

"This date in science: Great Meteor Procession of February 9, 1913"

[img171.imageshack.us image 580x332]
"Canadian artist Gustav Hahn painted his impression of what the Great Meteor Procession looked like, ...

Yeah, notice how they're all traveling together?  That's because larger meteorites will often break up in the atmosphere- I've seen it a few times, and from the videos it looks like this one did too.

That does NOT mean however that it's likely this thing will have the last parts hit a few hours later though or anything like that, as these things travel really fast so any parts that broke off in the atmosphere has already landed.  We're like 8 hours after the initial impact; based on the size of this thing it's certainly not large enough to have a gravitational attraction to other pieces and keep them together.

That's not to sayanother rock can't wham into your bedroom tonight and shatter the glass while you sleep though.  Sweet dreams.


Ah, cool stuff thanks. My bunker doesn't have windows.
 
2013-02-15 07:00:26 AM  
So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?
 
2013-02-15 07:01:41 AM  
Damn, I didn't know the video was going to be that cool
 
2013-02-15 07:05:05 AM  
This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.
 
2013-02-15 07:05:19 AM  

Walker: Triumph: 11:19 GMT: The Russian military has explored a meteorite crater that is reportedly 6 meters in diameter; normal radiation levels were detected at the site.

11:12 GMT: Nearly 725 people have requested medical assistance in regions hit by the meteor shower.

11:10 GMT: The meteorite blast in the Chelyabinsk region may be connected to the 2012DA14 asteroid, which will pass close to Earth tonight, Tatyana Borisevich from Pulkovo Observatory told Itar-Tass.

Don't worry about the 2012DA14 asteroid they said.
Nothing will hit Earth they said.
Expert FAIL again.


Careful, you're liable to get astronomers tried in court when a meteor does eventually get us. I mean nobody REALLY condemned Italy for doing it to seismologists.
 
2013-02-15 07:06:03 AM  

dfacto: So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?


I'd take that bet. That rock was supersonic.
 
2013-02-15 07:09:20 AM  

dfacto: So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?


That can be stated with absolute certainty. Or at least, it can be stated that whoever wrote or said that is full of shiat. The thing was traveling 30 km/s. That's somewhere in the vicinity of Mach 88.
 
2013-02-15 07:10:19 AM  

The Snow Dog: p4p3rm4t3: Andromeda: PreMortem: Andromeda: Astronomer checking into this tread- holy fark indeed.  Though this isn't actually that unusual, flashes of this magnitude are recorded by satellites every few years, just that it happened in a populated area.

That said, I'm on overtime now to combat the derp and conspiracy nuts.  If anyone has questions I'm happy to field them.

9:36 GMT: There is a high chance that another meteorite could enter the Earth's atmosphere in the next few hours, Sergey Smirnov from Pulkovo Observatory told Vesti news channel.

Do meteors break up outside our atmosphere, like by the sun? I wouldn't think so.

And if they do, do larger pieces arrive first then the smaller ones, vice-versa, or is there no usual pattern?

Sergey's kinda full of shiat- I mean technically there is a 100% chance of a meteorite entering our atmosphere in the next few hours (as hundreds do), but this size?  Not REALLY likely.

Meteors break up if they break up in our atmosphere.  There may be some lag based on their size but everything from this meteor has certainly already hit/ been seen.

Umm.. I'm not an Astronomer but... how can you say it's a one shot wonder?

Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9
[img805.imageshack.us image 300x91]
"Over the next 6 days, 21 distinct impacts were observed" (July 1994)


This meteor wouldn't be comparable to that event, in that that comet was one piece, then split up as it got caught in the gravity of Jupiter. Who is to say though that this and the asteroid due by today weren't part of a larger mass at one point. That mass, as it orbited around the sun (or swung by a larger planet) could have, as it cruised through its perigee and broken up while going fast enough that they didn't crash into the sun (or planet) but instead freight-trained off into space. What you would have then is a cluster or line of pieces of it orbiting in roughly the same ellipse. I think you're right there could be more pieces out there, but I would say that the point in t ...


Interesting.
 
2013-02-15 07:10:30 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: dfacto: So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?

I'd take that bet. That rock was supersonic.


If it was really going at 30 km/s it was WAY past plain old supersonic or hypersonic.  It went plaid.
 
2013-02-15 07:11:16 AM  

greentea1985: This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.




Tunguska was likely in the megaton range. This is probably kT range. Personally I think it would be awesome if this beat out the North Korean test.

This event is most similar to Sikhote alin
 
2013-02-15 07:12:10 AM  

greentea1985: This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.


I'd be careful with a statement like that until we see footage showing something akin to 2,000km2 flattened by the shockwave.
 
2013-02-15 07:12:47 AM  

Teknowaffle: greentea1985: This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.

Tunguska was likely in the megaton range. This is probably kT range. Personally I think it would be awesome if this beat out the North Korean test.

This event is most similar to Sikhote alin


In other words, like most sequels, this one sucks compared to the original
 
2013-02-15 07:13:49 AM  

greentea1985: This sounds a lot like the Tunguska event, except there were witnesses this time. The meteor blew up while it was landing and showered debris everywhere.


If this was anything like the Tunguska event, there would be newsflashes and panic everywhere as nearly 1,000 square miles were destroyed under what appeared to be a nuke detonation.
 
2013-02-15 07:15:00 AM  

dfacto: So the Russians are claiming they shot this thing mid-flight?  Who wants to bet that's just some desk-jockey making shiat up?


Yeah. That's BS.

Assuming they had enough advance warning to get something off, you'd  s ee a missile contrail shooting up and intersecting the meteor's train.
 
2013-02-15 07:15:56 AM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: I'd take that bet. That rock was supersonic.


More like High-Hypersonic speeds or re-entry speeds. The odds of them spotting this thing in time to do anything is very, very small as those types of radars are gated to just about 100 miles or so above the atmosphere. They aren't looking outside of ballistic ranges and with no launch warnings or world tensions that might lead to a US\Russian nuclear war they would have no reason to be on the alert.
 
2013-02-15 07:18:00 AM  
Thanks to Google translate, Russian Youtube comments are just as stupid as English..

"funny thing that will blow up the meteor somewhere in America there was a panic and we *removed* and rejoice"
"maybe it was a pigeon"
"megatron has arrived"


Also, Russia really looks like a crappy place to live.
 
2013-02-15 07:20:52 AM  
So the meteor says:  I'm the cat with the bass and drum, going 'round like Bom Bom Bom!
 
2013-02-15 07:25:17 AM  
Scientists rushed to the site. Working quickly, but carefully, they pulled several molten fragments from the ground under the zinc plant.

And Dorner's Drivers License.
 
2013-02-15 07:26:34 AM  

Stretch_8: Sonic boom goodness here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Np_mpGYSBSA#!


Quite a mouth on him. Every other word is a curse word. Sounds like a Leningrad album.
 
2013-02-15 07:28:06 AM  
Only in Russia.  Chernobyl, Nazi invasions, Stalinism, Meteors ... they're like the Chicago Cubs.
 
2013-02-15 07:32:17 AM  
These videos got me wondering:  How hard would it be to learn to speak even some basic Russian?  For some reason, the language has always intrigued me a bit.
 
2013-02-15 07:34:11 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Scientists rushed to the site. Working quickly, but carefully, they pulled several molten fragments from the ground under the zinc plant.

And Dorner's Drivers License.


who's awesome?

you are.
 
2013-02-15 07:36:37 AM  

HAMMERTOE: Scientists rushed to the site. Working quickly, but carefully, they pulled several molten fragments from the ground under the zinc plant.


They turned out to be zinc.  Who knew?
 
2013-02-15 07:36:44 AM  

HAMMERTOE: And Dorner's Drivers License.


Enjoy your internets.  You've earned them.
 
2013-02-15 07:38:09 AM  

Grand_Moff_Joseph: These videos got me wondering:  How hard would it be to learn to speak even some basic Russian?  For some reason, the language has always intrigued me a bit.


From what I've heard, not as difficult as Chinese or Japanese but a lot harder than the romance languages.

http://www.effectivelanguagelearning.com/language-guide/language-dif fi culty
 
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You're welcome. :-)

And the folks on the Caturday thread would love to see your kitties. Now that you have TF you have access to threads before they go live, which includes the Caturday thread. Do some exploring and check out the Greenlit links tab, TotalFark, TotalFark Discussion (TFD), etc. You get to see all the links submitted instead of the ones that are greenlit. You might find it somewhat overwhelming at first, I know I did, but I think you'll enjoy it.

Have fun!
 
2013-02-15 07:41:15 AM  
Well, if Russia goes radio silent in the next day or two, we can reasonably assume that either the Russian dead are rising from their graves, or the Colour Out of Space missed it's intended target in New England.
 
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