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(Russian Machine Never Breaks)   At least one meteor strike confirmed in Chelyabinsk, Russia. Conflicting reports suggest moderate damage, possible evacuations underway. (w/multiple dash cam video HolyFarkness) (now w/working link)   (russianmachineneverbreaks.com) divider line 773
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2013-02-15 02:41:08 AM
SJKebab:This video here shows the incoming meteor in relation to the setting sun.  I saw on his twitter feed that he was looking for videos like this (I'm sure he already has it by now) in order to determine if it is related to DA14.

These sorts of calculations are far beyond my ken.  Anyone else want to have a go?


Well i'm glad to hear that. Math is not my strong suit, so i'm glad someone who knows their stuff is applying it to this.

If he makes a definitive statement before NASA does i'll be impressed.
 
2013-02-15 02:43:37 AM
SJKebab:Well, reverse the polarity then.

I dunno-those Russian car dashcam video cameras read 18:30
 
2013-02-15 02:44:21 AM

J. Frank Parnell: Well i'm glad to hear that. Math is not my strong suit, so i'm glad someone who knows their stuff is applying it to this.

If he makes a definitive statement before NASA does i'll be impressed.


Apparently I don't know how to copy a twitter post now, but Phil is convinced its a coincidence.
 
2013-02-15 02:46:10 AM
/drjekel_mrhyde: crumblecat: Hmm...............

Why are we not seeing this on mainstream news yet?

BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116


At what point is it no longer a meteor "shower"?

/plinking
//pummeling
///pounding
 
2013-02-15 02:46:53 AM
Seriously fraking cool.  How much do we all love the Russian dash cam craze.  Who knew the decline of the rule of law would have such an awesome upside?
 
2013-02-15 02:46:53 AM

Allen262: cc_rider: Allen262: [img59.imageshack.us image 344x231]

/gif on Google home page...

It's a conspiracy!

Did it play for you?


Couldn't get it off Fark. I just loaded Google's home page.
 
2013-02-15 02:47:03 AM

Confabulat: What's with the dual contrails?


Dual thingys.
 
2013-02-15 02:47:50 AM

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...


Maybe that was the sound of impact and not a sonic boom?
 
2013-02-15 02:48:12 AM
As Putin rears his meteors and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border.

/don't say she didn't warn ya
 
2013-02-15 02:50:27 AM

SJKebab: Civil_War2_Time: It didn't "skip" off the atmosphere.

That was what I was trying to imply initially.

Civil_War2_Time: "Skipping" is a term used to describe that it was going faster than 17,500mph (escape velocity per 9.81m/s^2), and thus if it never slowed to that speed, it continued on through the atmosphere and on its way out if there was enough mass left.

You know, I never really thought it through properly. I always just had that mental image of a rock skipping over a pond when hit at just the right angle, and never thought about it again. Above in response to Kim Jong Un, I was forced to think it through a bit more and realised the physics are more complicated and so I have no idea what would be "expected" to happen like I originally thought I did.

That said though, I never really considered the possibility of an object aimed "just right" and plowing through the atmosphere, with enough escape velocity at the end to ensure a safe exit. I always thought of it more as a "bounce" rather than a "pierce". I suppose the effect is the latter but its thought of as the former?

/tired and rambly now...


Yes, that can happen. For example, in 1972, US19720810 went through the atmosphere and continued on with an altered orbit. (I don't know if the orbital elements for are best-guesses based on the footage, or if subsequent researchers have actually found an object consistent with the one that caused the '72 fireball.)
 
2013-02-15 02:52:43 AM
This meteorite is unlikely to be related to DA14. Remember that the Earth is travelling at 66,000 mph (108,000 km per hour) in its orbit--in 12 hours it travels nearly 800,000 miles or 1,300,000 kilometers. Assuming that the asteroid will pass us at a nearly perpendicular angle, this meteorite is probably not a chunk of the same rock--when an object breaks up at high speed in space, the pieces more or less stay in the same orbit and fairly close together. If you look at multiple craters, they form a series not unlike bullets fired from an airplane. There are several examples on websites dedicated to meteorite impacts as well as double craters (you can see many examples of these on Mars and the Moon).

We annually pass through meteor showers that are the debris of disintegrated comets and meteors and these hit us in a buckshot pattern from a point centered around the path of the comet or asteroid of which they were part.

From what I have gathered from a quick and superficial reading of web posts, the object was probably a lot smaller than DA14, which would have an impact of about 3 megatonnes, close to the Tunguska event, which flattened thousands of square miles of Siberian spruce and which was observed from thousands of miles away. This object seems to have hit less than 250 miles from the sightings which means it was impressive but not unheard of in size or speed. There are many "Fortean" reports of bright objects in the sky and the noises (explosions, sizzling, hissing) associated with them. This is a rare event but has probably happened a number of times in your lifetme with somewhat smaller explosions.

It probably broke up about 26,000-36,000 feet up. The delay between the sightings and the boom is due to the fact that it is much higher and faster than it looks when it passed over the cameras, and thus more distant than you might think when it hit.

I have seen a meteor break up (silently, and thus far away) but it was nothing like this one. That thing came in impressively fast and bright. The one I saw I watched for maybe 15 minutes. It started as a cigar-shaped cloud (looking like old descriptons of "UFOs" and then displayed two small lights about the size and brightness of distant airplanes or planets and finally it broke up. I saw it from a distance and from a slight angle to its path.

It came out of the sunset because it was part of the annual Chi Capricorn meteor shower, which is usually not visible because it comes at us from too near the Sun. I got lucky. And I was able to identify it by looking meteor showers up on the web.
 
2013-02-15 02:54:19 AM

brantgoose: object was probably a lot smaller than DA14, which would have an impact of about 3 megatonnes, close to the Tunguska event,


For given values of close, you mean, it would be an order of magnitude less than the Tunguska impact.
 
2013-02-15 02:54:40 AM
No worries. I just came.
 
2013-02-15 02:56:41 AM
Um what do they mean by this?? Another one being tracked?

"According to the federal media, another meteorite can explode over the Earth today, 15 February, in the evening.An explosion can occur at 23:00."

From here...  LINK
 
2013-02-15 02:58:45 AM
As long as Uncle Vlad's mini giraffe is unharmed I think everything will be OK.
 
2013-02-15 02:59:01 AM

santadog: At what point is it no longer a meteor "shower"?


When it reaches your calves, then it is called a meteor bath.
 
2013-02-15 02:59:37 AM

fusillade762: recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...

Maybe that was the sound of impact and not a sonic boom?


Sonic boom means it's traveling faster than sound.  Light does as well.  So you would easily see the physical results of the breakup long before the sound and shockwave hits you.
 
2013-02-15 02:59:57 AM
Well I don't care. It's a good excuse to lay on the deck with the kids, bundle up and look for meteors Friday night.
 
2013-02-15 03:00:36 AM
"Hey, did you know thatHot Fudge Sundae falls on a Tuesday this month?"
 
2013-02-15 03:02:05 AM

cantsleep: Damn mayans were lousy with math.


Or pretty good.
 
2013-02-15 03:02:12 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: Am I going to die?


Not if you join my religion, pay me money, repeat whatever I tell you is the truth, and live and die by an arbitrarily set list of contradictory nonsensical rules.
 
2013-02-15 03:03:35 AM
Yet across the gulf of space, minds that are to our minds as ours are to those of the beasts that perish, intellects vast and cool and unsympathetic, regarded this earth with envious eyes, and slowly and surely drew their plans against us.
 
2013-02-15 03:04:04 AM

JRoo: B.L.Z. Bub: Am I going to die?

Not if you join my religion, pay me money, repeat whatever I tell you is the truth, and live and die by an arbitrarily set list of contradictory nonsensical rules.


Nobody is dumb enough to fall for that pitch
 
2013-02-15 03:04:27 AM

thenumber5: "Hey, did you know thatHot Fudge Sundae falls on a Tuesday this month?"


Is that the first Lucifer's Hammer reference?  Nice!

/For the lightning!
 
2013-02-15 03:04:33 AM
 
2013-02-15 03:04:55 AM
I think meteors are considered an act of God. So good luck with that insurance claim.
 
2013-02-15 03:05:39 AM
"the meteorite was intercepted by an air defense unit at the Urzhumka settlement near Chelyabinsk. A missile salvo reportedly blew the meteorite to pieces at an altitude of 20 kilometers."

Either the impact or the detonation of Russian missiles cause an EMP burst which has knocked out the phones in the area.
 
2013-02-15 03:05:53 AM

SJKebab: Apparently I don't know how to copy a twitter post now, but Phil is convinced its a coincidence.


Can't say i'm too surprised. Telling everyone there's nothing to worry about seems to be his raison d'etre.

/must sleep
//hopefully i won't wake up to a sonic boom like that
 
2013-02-15 03:06:06 AM

thenumber5: "Hey, did you know thatHot Fudge Sundae falls on a Tuesday this month?"


*buries my copies of "The Way Things Work" in my septic tank*
 
2013-02-15 03:06:48 AM
images.zap2it.com
 
2013-02-15 03:08:19 AM
Marklar?
 
2013-02-15 03:08:24 AM
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2013-02-15 03:08:41 AM
Too bad all the footage was so meteorcre.
 
2013-02-15 03:09:33 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Tangently related: Russian origin. Found it while looking for something else.
 
2013-02-15 03:09:49 AM

Ed Grubermann: thenumber5: "Hey, did you know thatHot Fudge Sundae falls on a Tuesday this month?"

*buries my copies of "The Way Things Work" in my septic tank*


Might want to stockpile some insulin while you're at it.
 
2013-02-15 03:09:50 AM
I had a vision last night of this happening....way too funny!
/sigh
//i love life
 
2013-02-15 03:10:41 AM

cc_rider: Allen262: cc_rider: Allen262: [img59.imageshack.us image 344x231]

/gif on Google home page...

It's a conspiracy!

Did it play for you?

Couldn't get it off Fark. I just loaded Google's home page.


I made a smaller one.



imageshack.us
 
2013-02-15 03:10:45 AM

recoil47: Here is what I don't get:  The videos show the sky with the two smoke trails for a good 30-60 seconds, and THEN there's a loud sonic boom, long after those would have hit.  One video even panned around after the boom to try to see if it was another meteorite, but saw nothing.  What caused the sonic boom?  It didn't appear to be the meteorite, or at least nothing captured as falling from the sky on film...



Sound (only) travels about 12.68 miles a minute, but it was reported as being visible for up to 250 miles.

If they were 50 miles away they'd still see the trails, but would have to wait almost 5 minutes to hear it. Crazy.
 
2013-02-15 03:10:46 AM
Every five seconds the main gun of an Everest-class dreadnought accelerates one to 1.3 percent of light speed. It impacts with the force of a 38-kiloton bomb. That is three times the yield of the city-buster dropped on Hiroshima back on Earth. That means, Sir Isaac Newton was the deadliest son-of-a-biatch in space.
 
2013-02-15 03:11:58 AM

p4p3rm4t3: LOL


Proof that 24hr News is dumbing Amerika.
 
2013-02-15 03:12:47 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-15 03:12:53 AM
I saw a huge meteor break up in the sky when I was 15 years old in the summer of 2001. I was on a camping trip with some friends and he had just crossed over into Canada and found a camp ground to stay for the night. I was being a young stupid hard ass, so I thought I'd rough it and sleep on a picnic table while everyone else was in tents or the camper.

Luckily for me, I was able to see the most amazing thing I'll probably ever see. I saw this really bright light start to come through the trees and at first I thought it was a spotlight on a helicopter, even though I couldn't hear anything like a helicopter. So I was lying there and this light starts cascading through the trees and the spot of light travels from the edge of the sky where my feet were point towards my head, so basically along my body.

At about the time it was directly overhead it started to seriously break up into small fragments but the fragments kept going and going. I sat up on the table and watched as they kept on going over me and past me, out towards the horizon.

I was pretty well in shock because the damn thing had been huge and I had never seen anything like it. So I got up and started waking up everyone else to try and catch the end of it. People got up and were tired but encouraging but they just wanted to go back to bed.

So after maybe thirty seconds I was back on my table and I heard this amazing BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM and I could feel it throughout my entire body. It's been 12 years, so I can't say for sure, but it felt like it went on for a long time. Everyone got back out of their tents and got up to look around. At first I thought maybe the meteor had hit something, but then I realized it was just a very delayed sonic boom and that the meteor had been VERY high up in the atmosphere.

It was a very awesome experience and from then on I always sleep on the picnic table if I get the chance.
 
2013-02-15 03:13:57 AM

zerkalo: Crazy Russian Farkers and their photoshopes

[cs6081.userapi.com image 800x533]


Damnit!
 
2013-02-15 03:14:56 AM
Top story on HuffPo now. Link
 
2013-02-15 03:15:18 AM

mr lawson: I had a vision last night of this happening....way too funny!
/sigh
//i love life


Never rely on visions, they can lead you wrong.

/And I sure didn't see this coming.
 
2013-02-15 03:16:30 AM

brantgoose: This meteorite is unlikely to be related to DA14. Remember that the Earth is travelling at 66,000 mph (108,000 km per hour) in its orbit--in 12 hours it travels nearly 800,000 miles or 1,300,000 kilometers. Assuming that the asteroid will pass us at a nearly perpendicular angle, this meteorite is probably not a chunk of the same rock--when an object breaks up at high speed in space, the pieces more or less stay in the same orbit and fairly close together. If you look at multiple craters, they form a series not unlike bullets fired from an airplane. There are several examples on websites dedicated to meteorite impacts as well as double craters (you can see many examples of these on Mars and the Moon).

We annually pass through meteor showers that are the debris of disintegrated comets and meteors and these hit us in a buckshot pattern from a point centered around the path of the comet or asteroid of which they were part.

From what I have gathered from a quick and superficial reading of web posts, the object was probably a lot smaller than DA14, which would have an impact of about 3 megatonnes, close to the Tunguska event, which flattened thousands of square miles of Siberian spruce and which was observed from thousands of miles away. This object seems to have hit less than 250 miles from the sightings which means it was impressive but not unheard of in size or speed. There are many "Fortean" reports of bright objects in the sky and the noises (explosions, sizzling, hissing) associated with them. This is a rare event but has probably happened a number of times in your lifetme with somewhat smaller explosions.

It probably broke up about 26,000-36,000 feet up. The delay between the sightings and the boom is due to the fact that it is much higher and faster than it looks when it passed over the cameras, and thus more distant than you might think when it hit.

I have seen a meteor break up (silently, and thus far away) but it was nothing like this one. That thing came i ...



I've seen 3 (and heard 2) two meteors break up in my life. Nothing near the power of this one. The two I heard were both when I was at lakes. I suppose having the clear view over open water made them really noticeable. The sonic booms were more sonic cracks and were more like distant gunshots that arrived 8-10 seconds after the flash / streak. They were both pretty cool. One of the ones I saw / heard was at night, the other two I saw / heard during the day.
Also: you saw a meteor FALL for 15 minutes? Gotta say: you saw a UFO, then. It definitely wasn't a meteor.
 
2013-02-15 03:17:38 AM

DeadBaby: I saw a huge meteor break up in the sky when I was 15 years old in the summer of 2001. I was on a camping trip with some friends and he had just crossed over into Canada and found a camp ground to stay for the night. I was being a young stupid hard ass, so I thought I'd rough it and sleep on a picnic table while everyone else was in tents or the camper.

Luckily for me, I was able to see the most amazing thing I'll probably ever see. I saw this really bright light start to come through the trees and at first I thought it was a spotlight on a helicopter, even though I couldn't hear anything like a helicopter. So I was lying there and this light starts cascading through the trees and the spot of light travels from the edge of the sky where my feet were point towards my head, so basically along my body.

At about the time it was directly overhead it started to seriously break up into small fragments but the fragments kept going and going. I sat up on the table and watched as they kept on going over me and past me, out towards the horizon.

I was pretty well in shock because the damn thing had been huge and I had never seen anything like it. So I got up and started waking up everyone else to try and catch the end of it. People got up and were tired but encouraging but they just wanted to go back to bed.

So after maybe thirty seconds I was back on my table and I heard this amazing BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM and I could feel it throughout my entire body. It's been 12 years, so I can't say for sure, but it felt like it went on for a long time. Everyone got back out of their tents and got up to look around. At first I thought maybe the meteor had hit something, but then I realized it was just a very delayed sonic boom and that the meteor had been VERY high up in the atmosphere.

It was a very awesome experience and from then on I always sleep on the picnic table if I get the chance.


Cool story, bro.

Seriously.  That's awesome.
 
2013-02-15 03:18:14 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-02-15 03:18:16 AM
So you are telling me that a meteor leaves a double contrail, a meteor gets shot down by air defense, and a second meteor just HAPPENS to land dead center on an industrial target?

I suppose its possible.
 
2013-02-15 03:19:09 AM

Confabulat: What's with the dual contrails chemtrails?


6 pages and no one has FTFY?

I'll be in my bunker.
 
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