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(AZ Family)   What's dumber than harassing somebody on a bike? Calling the police who show up to investigate, 'slime.' What's dumber than that? Bringing up Christopher Dorner's name after they taser your ass   (azfamily.com) divider line 4
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2013-02-15 12:35:22 AM  
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...who had spent the past several hours standing on the northeast corner of Alma School and University holding a sign that read "Stop the harassment Mesa Police."

Idiot.

Officers subsequently noticed that Wiseman had his hand on the butt of a long gun that was taped to the back of his sign.

Suicidal idiot.

...was tased by two officers when he failed to comply.

Lucky suicidal idiot.
2013-02-15 05:42:02 AM  
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Gyrfalcon: The big hole in your cunning plan is that all those cop killers you cited somehow managed to survive being hunted down by the brother officers of those "scumbag cops" and spent many years in prison before it was determined that the warrant on which they were arrested was in fact defective and the resistance was in fact lawful.


If you shoot someone, turn yourself in immediately.  If you shoot someone in law enforcement, turn yourself in immediately to a different branch of law enforcement (e.g. county sheriff vs. city cop).

Waiting to be "hunted down" is a good way to make sure you're seeing manslaughter charges at best, any defensive situation unambiguous enough to shoot at someone is unambiguous enough to spend a couple days in lockup while your lawyer sorts things out.

//Albeit, this is the serious answer, so I'm not sure this thread, which devolved into ridiculous ITG shiat and trolling within 5 posts, really merits the srs bzns treatment.
2013-02-15 04:33:51 AM  
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Gyrfalcon: isupportcopkillers: I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.

That's very nice. Good luck actually succeeding. The big hole in your cunning plan is that all those cop killers you cited somehow managed to survive being hunted down by the brother officers of those "scumbag cops" and spent many years in prison before it was determined that the warrant on which they were arrested was in fact defective and the resistance was in fact lawful.

This oft-cited case is not a blanket excuse to shoot cops because you believe their warrant to be unlawful. It is an affirmative defense, to be used AFTER you've been arrested, to show why you should not be charged with first-degree murder with special circumstances after you get arrested for homicide of a public servant. In other words, like self-defense, you're going to have to prove, in court, after the fact, that the warrant was defective, and therefore your resistance which led to the cop's death was not unlawful. And good luck with that one.

As far as using it as an excuse for shooting the cop BEFORE you're arrested--that's not going to work. Because how did you know prior to getting the warrant, that it was defective? And if you knew it was defective, why didn't you just go with the cop and then get your lawyer to point out the defect in court. Really, kids, all this law is is to provide an out for people who happen to resist, kill the officer, and then it's discovered after the fact that the cops were not acting in good faith. And, like I said, it's an affirmative defense, so good luck with proving it.


Like blu falcon said.  Who do you think collects, handles, and catalogs evidence?  Its not the best buddy of the guy who shot the cop.  Its people just like the cop you shot.
2013-02-15 04:18:59 AM  
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isupportcopkillers: I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.


That's very nice. Good luck actually succeeding. The big hole in your cunning plan is that all those cop killers you cited somehow managed to survive being hunted down by the brother officers of those "scumbag cops" and spent many years in prison before it was determined that the warrant on which they were arrested was in fact defective and the resistance was in fact lawful.

This oft-cited case is not a blanket excuse to shoot cops because you believe their warrant to be unlawful. It is an affirmative defense, to be used AFTER you've been arrested, to show why you should not be charged with first-degree murder with special circumstances after you get arrested for homicide of a public servant. In other words, like self-defense, you're going to have to prove, in court, after the fact, that the warrant was defective, and therefore your resistance which led to the cop's death was not unlawful. And good luck with that one.

As far as using it as an excuse for shooting the cop BEFORE you're arrested--that's not going to work. Because how did you know prior to getting the warrant, that it was defective? And if you knew it was defective, why didn't you just go with the cop and then get your lawyer to point out the defect in court. Really, kids, all this law is is to provide an out for people who happen to resist, kill the officer, and then it's discovered after the fact that the cops were not acting in good faith. And, like I said, it's an affirmative defense, so good luck with proving it.
 
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