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(AZ Family)   What's dumber than harassing somebody on a bike? Calling the police who show up to investigate, 'slime.' What's dumber than that? Bringing up Christopher Dorner's name after they taser your ass   (azfamily.com) divider line 27
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2013-02-15 12:35:22 AM
...who had spent the past several hours standing on the northeast corner of Alma School and University holding a sign that read "Stop the harassment Mesa Police."

Idiot.

Officers subsequently noticed that Wiseman had his hand on the butt of a long gun that was taped to the back of his sign.

Suicidal idiot.

...was tased by two officers when he failed to comply.

Lucky suicidal idiot.
 
2013-02-15 01:28:15 AM
Was he on a bike while harassing someone, or did he harass someone who was on a bike?
 
2013-02-15 03:25:34 AM

GreenAdder: Was he on a bike while harassing someone, or did he harass someone who was on a bike?


And why were the police investigating slime?
 
2013-02-15 03:32:32 AM

Bill_Wick's_Friend: GreenAdder: Was he on a bike while harassing someone, or did he harass someone who was on a bike?

And why were the police investigating slime?


Headline Fail, must have been a mod.
 
2013-02-15 03:33:28 AM
I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.

"

"Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.

Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: "Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed."


"An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. If the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter." Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
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Disorderly "conduct" is such a blanket term and would be valid to use whatever force would be needed to stop the terrorism. Maybe instead of all these bogus wars with all the billions wasted we the US would do far more good just by bombing 50% of its PDs
 
2013-02-15 03:34:01 AM
A douchtastic bicycle shorts wearing mod.
 
2013-02-15 03:36:44 AM
Calling all cars. Calling all cars.
Cruiser 12, are you in the vicinity?
 
2013-02-15 03:36:53 AM
I also don't appreciate being called 'slime' as I am reading the page.
 
2013-02-15 03:37:17 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-15 03:38:30 AM
isupportcopkillers: [derp redacted]

A'ight,one trick pony. I've had just about enuff of this bad, blatant trolling out of you.

Better luck next alt.

*iggy*
 
2013-02-15 04:18:59 AM

isupportcopkillers: I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.


That's very nice. Good luck actually succeeding. The big hole in your cunning plan is that all those cop killers you cited somehow managed to survive being hunted down by the brother officers of those "scumbag cops" and spent many years in prison before it was determined that the warrant on which they were arrested was in fact defective and the resistance was in fact lawful.

This oft-cited case is not a blanket excuse to shoot cops because you believe their warrant to be unlawful. It is an affirmative defense, to be used AFTER you've been arrested, to show why you should not be charged with first-degree murder with special circumstances after you get arrested for homicide of a public servant. In other words, like self-defense, you're going to have to prove, in court, after the fact, that the warrant was defective, and therefore your resistance which led to the cop's death was not unlawful. And good luck with that one.

As far as using it as an excuse for shooting the cop BEFORE you're arrested--that's not going to work. Because how did you know prior to getting the warrant, that it was defective? And if you knew it was defective, why didn't you just go with the cop and then get your lawyer to point out the defect in court. Really, kids, all this law is is to provide an out for people who happen to resist, kill the officer, and then it's discovered after the fact that the cops were not acting in good faith. And, like I said, it's an affirmative defense, so good luck with proving it.
 
2013-02-15 04:33:51 AM

Gyrfalcon: isupportcopkillers: I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.

That's very nice. Good luck actually succeeding. The big hole in your cunning plan is that all those cop killers you cited somehow managed to survive being hunted down by the brother officers of those "scumbag cops" and spent many years in prison before it was determined that the warrant on which they were arrested was in fact defective and the resistance was in fact lawful.

This oft-cited case is not a blanket excuse to shoot cops because you believe their warrant to be unlawful. It is an affirmative defense, to be used AFTER you've been arrested, to show why you should not be charged with first-degree murder with special circumstances after you get arrested for homicide of a public servant. In other words, like self-defense, you're going to have to prove, in court, after the fact, that the warrant was defective, and therefore your resistance which led to the cop's death was not unlawful. And good luck with that one.

As far as using it as an excuse for shooting the cop BEFORE you're arrested--that's not going to work. Because how did you know prior to getting the warrant, that it was defective? And if you knew it was defective, why didn't you just go with the cop and then get your lawyer to point out the defect in court. Really, kids, all this law is is to provide an out for people who happen to resist, kill the officer, and then it's discovered after the fact that the cops were not acting in good faith. And, like I said, it's an affirmative defense, so good luck with proving it.


Like blu falcon said.  Who do you think collects, handles, and catalogs evidence?  Its not the best buddy of the guy who shot the cop.  Its people just like the cop you shot.
 
2013-02-15 04:48:29 AM

isupportcopkillers: I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.


What prevents big people from knowing this, or even people of average size?
 
2013-02-15 04:58:32 AM

No Catchy Nickname: isupportcopkillers: I would have shot the scumbag cops. Very little people know you have the right to resist unlawful arrest and use deadly force if needed.

What prevents big people from knowing this, or even people of average size?


Irrelevance.  How many more apples high before you reach average, little one?
 
2013-02-15 05:42:02 AM

Gyrfalcon: The big hole in your cunning plan is that all those cop killers you cited somehow managed to survive being hunted down by the brother officers of those "scumbag cops" and spent many years in prison before it was determined that the warrant on which they were arrested was in fact defective and the resistance was in fact lawful.


If you shoot someone, turn yourself in immediately.  If you shoot someone in law enforcement, turn yourself in immediately to a different branch of law enforcement (e.g. county sheriff vs. city cop).

Waiting to be "hunted down" is a good way to make sure you're seeing manslaughter charges at best, any defensive situation unambiguous enough to shoot at someone is unambiguous enough to spend a couple days in lockup while your lawyer sorts things out.

//Albeit, this is the serious answer, so I'm not sure this thread, which devolved into ridiculous ITG shiat and trolling within 5 posts, really merits the srs bzns treatment.
 
2013-02-15 05:46:26 AM
Wiseman then made reference to the Christopher Dorner case... [he] added that he would take care of "the problem" when he gets out of jail.
Subby, that's a tad worse than "bringing up" the case.
 
2013-02-15 06:27:25 AM
glad to see Jack Black took off a few pounds. good luck with the psych eval, bud.
 
2013-02-15 08:10:31 AM
I'm not an expert on police harassment but I reckon there might be better ways to avoid it than haranguing people from a corner for hours with a sign saying "stop harassing me" while armed with a shotgun.
 
2013-02-15 08:53:15 AM
The ravings of a Wiseman, are no more than the ravings of a lunatic.
 
2013-02-15 08:58:29 AM

drxym: I'm not an expert on police harassment but I reckon there might be better ways to avoid it than haranguing people from a corner for hours with a sign saying "stop harassing me" while armed with a shotgun.


I usually handle it by paying the fine and publicly wishing ass cancer upon everyone affiliated with or related to anyone in law enforcement/criminal law.  Yes that most definitely does include the preachers that come bother you in jail.
 
2013-02-15 09:40:41 AM
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Wondered what this guy was up to..
 
2013-02-15 09:49:05 AM
There's a law in Indiana that explicitly allows people to shoot cops who illegally enter their home.
 
2013-02-15 09:52:22 AM

ransack.: There's a law in Indiana that explicitly allows people to shoot cops who illegally enter their home.


link
 
2013-02-15 11:19:32 AM
Bikes appear to be a source of trouble according to the article, like pool halls.

So I'm waiting for the musical.

♫ "It's trouble with a capital 'T' and that rhymes with 'B' and that stands for 'bike'."♫
 
2013-02-15 12:59:04 PM

quatchi: ...who had spent the past several hours standing on the northeast corner of Alma School and University holding a sign that read "Stop the harassment Mesa Police."

Idiot.

Officers subsequently noticed that Wiseman had his hand on the butt of a long gun that was taped to the back of his sign.


Hmm think what is missing from that sentence is "what looked to be", obviously if he had an actual weapon the charges would have been different, he'd be deader than a door-nail too.  They probably used their subsequent noticing of the 'long gun' as cause to approach him.

The guys obviously a dipshiat but we shouldn't applaud officers for engaging/arresting people simply for 'contempt of cop'.
 
2013-02-15 01:04:41 PM
Stopped reading at "Arizona."

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2013-02-16 08:38:03 PM
farking tasers.    worst thing we've ever done.
 
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