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(Rolling Stone)   The ten messiest band breakups in history. Difficulty: The Eagles aren't at number one   (rollingstone.com) divider line 240
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2013-02-15 12:16:19 AM  
How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them) or, for the love of God, the Beatles?

I guess they wanted to try to not go for the old standby, but Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.
 
2013-02-15 12:23:16 AM  
The Beatles aren't on there? My mother cried for a week. Seriously.
 
2013-02-15 12:27:40 AM  
Nirvana's was pretty messy
 
2013-02-15 12:28:31 AM  
No Van Halen? Seems all they do is break up
 
2013-02-15 12:30:16 AM  
The breakup of the Clash gave us Big Audio Dynamite and The Pixies' failure produced the Breeders, so I'm OK with those two.
 
2013-02-15 12:31:15 AM  

jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them) or, for the love of God, the Beatles?

I guess they wanted to try to not go for the old standby, but Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.


This.  See also: Dead Kennedys
 
2013-02-15 12:31:25 AM  

jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them) or, for the love of God, the Beatles?


Well Floyd never really broke up, the bass player (and main songwriter) quit and believed he was the band, but the other two guys who were still officially part of the band said, "Hey wait a minute... we still wanna play, and we're bringing back the keyboard player you fired."  And as far as The Beatles, the farther out in time things go, it seems like they felt like a spent force together and wanted to do their own things and go out on top.  I strongly feel that had Lennon not been shot, they'd have gotten back together just to see if they could still do it.  It wouldn't have been the same as Beatlemania, though.

/now to RTFA
 
2013-02-15 12:32:51 AM  
ABBA turned down a billion (with a "B") dollars for a reunion tour in 2000.  That's true hate.
 
2013-02-15 12:40:10 AM  
Kinks (Brothers again)
Talking Heads
Pretenders (two original members go DOA)
Fleetwood Mac
Cream
 
2013-02-15 12:43:59 AM  

Snapper Carr: No Van Halen? Seems all they do is break up


Yup list fails without Van Halen
 
2013-02-15 12:44:43 AM  
No Spinal Tap?
 
2013-02-15 12:47:40 AM  
The Eagles never broke up, they just took a 14 year vacation.
 
2013-02-15 12:48:47 AM  
Nirvana?

/too soon?
 
2013-02-15 12:49:20 AM  

Fano: Nirvana's was pretty messy


I had the over/under at five posts.

I went with the over, dammit!

/tiny fist, etc...
 
2013-02-15 12:52:52 AM  

Fano: Nirvana's was pretty messy


came to say THIS, leaving... giggling
 
2013-02-15 12:54:02 AM  
Mayhem?
 
2013-02-15 12:57:40 AM  
Are we all still blaming Yoko, or have we moved on from there yet?

/yoko! that biatch!
//guess we're still blaming her then...
 
2013-02-15 12:58:04 AM  
The Clash shouldn't even be on that list. I don't recall much ill will. The band had really run it's course by Sandanista, and Combat Rock was too commercial for their original fans, the band realized it and pretty much quit after that.
 
2013-02-15 01:04:54 AM  

DigitalCoffee: Are we all still blaming Yoko, or have we moved on from there yet?

/yoko! that biatch!
//guess we're still blaming her then...


Yoko was a symptom (of John's growing boredom and dissatisfaction with the band which ultimately led to the breakup), not the cause (though bringing her into the studio certainly didn't help)
 
2013-02-15 01:07:31 AM  

farkingismybusiness: Mayhem?


*knucks*

List sucks: Brothers, brothers, LVS, LVS, who? and who?

Mayhem FTW
 
2013-02-15 01:10:35 AM  
Queensryche's breakup is the nastiest in years.

GnR's wasn't so much a breakup as one guy just took over and dumped everybody. He is the douche in the band, too.

Felder split in his limo before a fight could break out, and it was the last time the band played together for 14 years.

Felder tells that story different in his (great) book. But that's Rolling Stone for you.
 
2013-02-15 01:18:20 AM  
Did  Queensryche not watch Spinal Tap.  Did Tates wife suggest they record their next album in Dubly?
 
2013-02-15 01:18:35 AM  
I hate the farking Eagles man
 
2013-02-15 01:19:38 AM  

Fano: Nirvana's was pretty messy


Someone start the slow clap.

Fine, I'll do it.

Clap...
 
2013-02-15 01:21:32 AM  

Koalacaust: The Eagles never broke up, they just took a 14 year vacation.


I guess they stayed together in the long run.
 
2013-02-15 01:27:46 AM  
Weeze isn't on the list. Fail.
 
2013-02-15 01:30:08 AM  
Dead Kennedys
Misfits
Black Flag
 
2013-02-15 01:45:11 AM  
Pantera's was pretty bad.
 
2013-02-15 01:45:11 AM  

Harry_Seldon: Koalacaust: The Eagles never broke up, they just took a 14 year vacation.

I guess they stayed together in the long run.


They were brought down more by the band members' lyin' eyes rather than a witchy woman like the Beatles
 
2013-02-15 01:55:04 AM  

GreenAdder: Dead Kennedys
Misfits
Black Flag


Came here to say this...

/Leaving happy
//Jerry Only is a tool
///So is Kenny (Rocky), his brother
//// DOYLE rules
 
2013-02-15 01:55:22 AM  
Theres no way in Hell the guys in GnR would sign away all their rights to the band for one gig.  No one could possibly be that dumb.
 
2013-02-15 01:56:20 AM  
What about the Germs?  Aw well, I'll just hang in there a bit longer.
 
2013-02-15 02:01:08 AM  

Rivethead: What about the Germs?  Aw well, I'll just hang in there a bit longer.


pfft. you and new order. just hanging around.
 
2013-02-15 02:17:05 AM  
SRV
Big Bopper
Randy Rhoads

A bit messy there.
 
2013-02-15 02:17:44 AM  

jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them)


Fark Roger Waters. He didn't have any problem keeping the gravy train rolling after Sid left.
 
2013-02-15 02:20:14 AM  

DigitalCoffee: Are we all still blaming Yoko, or have we moved on from there yet?
www.trilobite.org
/yoko! that biatch!
//guess we're still blaming her then...

 
2013-02-15 02:24:07 AM  
Creedence comes to mind.
 
2013-02-15 02:33:57 AM  

DigitalCoffee: Are we all still blaming Yoko, or have we moved on from there yet?

/yoko! that biatch!
//guess we're still blaming her then...


John was just  pussy-whipped.
 
2013-02-15 02:37:55 AM  
Tommy Shaw and (JY) vs. Dennis DeYoung. Boy, that was a cluster fark.
 
2013-02-15 02:37:59 AM  
Yet another reason I love Rammstein. The six of them are original members and if one ever leaves the band will cease to exist. They've said its a "six-way marriage" and they all get along, their families get along, some of their children are siblings, they are friends as well as band mates. I love knowing that people I love love each other, too. And they kick ass. So best of both worlds.

Video shoot for "Haifisch" (Shark). Supposed to be angry with each other and about to fight, but Richard and Paul can't even glare at each other without laughing.
 
2013-02-15 02:38:51 AM  
Oh poo. The animated.gif was too large :(
 
2013-02-15 02:47:05 AM  
I hadn't heard that story about the Eagles threatening each other on mic during a show. Crazy.
 
2013-02-15 02:47:35 AM  
Ween
 
2013-02-15 02:58:38 AM  

djjonze: Ween


^^ Inconsolable for weeks.
 
2013-02-15 03:12:31 AM  
I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.
 
2013-02-15 03:54:08 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Snapper Carr: No Van Halen? Seems all they do is break up

Yup list fails without Van Halen


Van Halen is more of a circus act than a band.
 
2013-02-15 03:56:19 AM  
No love for the Misfits?
 
2013-02-15 04:35:38 AM  
FTA: It's a shame that the best rap-rock band of the 1990s was also the least functional. Rage Against the Machine's three albums are pretty much flawless

What are you smoking, and why aren't you sharing?

\Thrax's version of Bring the Noise easily topped everything Rage every recorded.
 
2013-02-15 04:37:01 AM  
Badlands?

Not a well-known band, but there was an incident at a show where Ray Gillen was holding up a magazine with a Jake E. Lee interview in it where Lee just trashes Gillen.

Gillen says to the crowd, "don't believe everything you read," while Lee is saying "it's all true."

Even though they hated each other at that point, they supposedly still put on an amazing show.
 
2013-02-15 04:45:23 AM  
Who are The Eagles? Are they anything like the legendary band  Eagles?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Eagles_(band)#WP:LAME:_.22Eagles_vs _the_Eagles.22
 
2013-02-15 04:46:09 AM  
I hate this new editor.
 
2013-02-15 04:59:12 AM  
The Veruca Salt breakup was pretty messy according to many accounts.
 
2013-02-15 05:04:38 AM  

Ed Grubermann: jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them)

Fark Roger Waters. He didn't have any problem keeping the gravy train rolling after Sid left.


The two situations are hardly comparable. Syd was losing his damn mind.
 
ecl
2013-02-15 05:12:08 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Who are The Eagles? Are they anything like the legendary band  Eagles?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Eagles_(band)#WP:LAME:_.22Eagles_vs _the_Eagles.22


twoheadednerd.com
 
2013-02-15 05:20:36 AM  
Badfinger.
 
2013-02-15 05:24:53 AM  

dookdookdook: ABBA turned down a billion (with a "B") dollars for a reunion tour in 2000.  That's true hate.


I don't think it's hate, it's more like "We're all doing our own thing, and we definitely don't need the money."
 
2013-02-15 05:27:10 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Ed Grubermann: jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them)

Fark Roger Waters. He didn't have any problem keeping the gravy train rolling after Sid left.

The two situations are hardly comparable. Syd was losing his damn mind.


And Waters had turned into an insufferable douche who wouldn't stop whinging on about his dad. But so what? It's not like Floyd was originally Sid's band. Oh, wait...
 
2013-02-15 05:37:43 AM  
No mention of Heart's lap band break up? One large pizza too many after the procedure and snap. Tragic indeed.
 
ecl
2013-02-15 05:38:45 AM  

sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.


i618.photobucket.com


Also, Sting is a condescending butthole.
 
2013-02-15 05:42:24 AM  

Ed Grubermann: B.L.Z. Bub: Ed Grubermann: jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them)

Fark Roger Waters. He didn't have any problem keeping the gravy train rolling after Sid left.

The two situations are hardly comparable. Syd was losing his damn mind.

And Waters had turned into an insufferable douche who wouldn't stop whinging on about his dad. But so what? It's not like Floyd was originally Sid's band. Oh, wait...


IANAL, but I would think that you lose the rights to your band when you become clinically insane.
 
2013-02-15 06:07:35 AM  

sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.


Par for the course for Billy. When Zwan broke up after just one album, he blamed EVERYTHING on the other band members and they were all big old meanies that were jealous of his talent, good looks and winning personality.
 
2013-02-15 06:10:35 AM  

ecl: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.

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Also, Sting is a condescending butthole.


Unfortunately, most successful, insanely talented people are.
 
2013-02-15 06:48:15 AM  

Fano: Nirvana's was pretty messy


Came to say this and Fark your slide show Rolling Stone.
 
2013-02-15 06:53:33 AM  
The Smiths barely got their last album produced.  Marr quit just after laying all the guitar tracks.

upload.wikimedia.org
Strange ways indeed.
 
2013-02-15 06:57:36 AM  
This one got messy for a bit but they reconciled in the end
i26.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-15 07:12:09 AM  

barneyfifesbullet: Queensryche's breakup is the nastiest in years.


To be fair, I'd be angry and ready to split too if I had released albums like American Soldier and Dedicated to Chaos.

Seriously, Queensryche has sucked for a while now and aside from Operation Mindcrime II (which was alright, but not great), they haven't released anything halfway decent since the late 90's.
 
2013-02-15 07:12:58 AM  

digistil: Representative of the unwashed masses: Snapper Carr: No Van Halen? Seems all they do is break up

Yup list fails without Van Halen

Van Halen is more of a circus act than a band.


I like the circus. And you should have seen them circa 1979. Hell of a band.
 
2013-02-15 07:29:08 AM  
Try to get through that slideshow on an ipad browser. I dare you.
 
2013-02-15 07:32:47 AM  

ghare: digistil: Representative of the unwashed masses: Snapper Carr: No Van Halen? Seems all they do is break up

Yup list fails without Van Halen

Van Halen is more of a circus act than a band.

I like the circus. And you should have seen them circa 1979. Hell of a band.


And like all good circus freaks, the guys in VH love money more than they hate each other.  They're always willing to reform for a quick buck.
 
2013-02-15 07:33:33 AM  

Onkel Buck: This one got messy for a bit but they reconciled in the end
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Heh, Love Burger.
 
2013-02-15 07:36:19 AM  
ahem.......


www.celluloidheroreviews.com
 
2013-02-15 07:36:57 AM  

WhippingBoy: No Spinal Tap?


whoops, sorry WP, posted too fast
 
2013-02-15 07:39:36 AM  
Silly article.  Queensryche didn't break up in 2012.  Queensryche broke up when DeGarmo left.
 
2013-02-15 07:45:18 AM  
Fear Factory? Fired guitar player, 5 years later took him back and fired bassist and drummer. Band now only has 2 permanent members.
 
2013-02-15 07:45:56 AM  
Nothing from the Norwegian black metal scene?  Wasn't there one band that broke up because one member ate another?
 
2013-02-15 07:55:07 AM  

hurdboy: djjonze: Ween

^^ Inconsolable for weeks.


How was Ween a messy break up?  I thought Freeman quit because he wanted to fish full time?  That band was around for a long time, they were getting old and I can't imagine he could keep singing in all those different voices much longer without starting to sound old and tired.
 
2013-02-15 08:01:37 AM  

blue_2501: Nothing from the Norwegian black metal scene?  Wasn't there one band that broke up because one member ate another?


Probably more than one, but Mayhem is the most infamous. Technically they're still around after their vocalist killed himself (And I think they never actually ate Dead, just stole some bones from the suicide scene) and their bassist killed their guitarist. Read their story, it makes GnR look like U2 in terms of bandmate stability.

/I realize details of this account may not be accurate and ergo a bounty is now on my head in parts of Norway. My apologies.
 
2013-02-15 08:01:49 AM  

blue_2501: Nothing from the Norwegian black metal scene?  Wasn't there one band that broke up because one member ate another?


farkingismybusiness: Mayhem?


Yes, this kinda tops 'em all.

'Band broke up because guitarist forced the singer to kill himself.'

Oh, but carry on with your list of slap-fights back stage and trash talking in magazines, I'm sure those were brutal.
 
2013-02-15 08:19:56 AM  

sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.


Big Al Anderson & NRBQ and Natalie Merchant & 10,000 Maniacs spring to mind

/Howard Johnson's got his mojo working
 
2013-02-15 08:25:46 AM  
Pretty sure The Carpenters weren't even able to sit at a meal together . . .
 
2013-02-15 08:29:15 AM  
I dunno, subby, the dudes I'd never heard of where one guy brained his brother with a guitar, dropped the mic, and walked off and  never talked to his brother again  until a family funeral sounds a bit more messy than some drunk guys threatening a fight, not actually getting in one, then peacefully deciding they can't work together anymore.
 
2013-02-15 08:32:54 AM  

Keywork99: barneyfifesbullet: Queensryche's breakup is the nastiest in years.

To be fair, I'd be angry and ready to split too if I had released albums like American Soldier and Dedicated to Chaos.

Seriously, Queensryche has sucked for a while now and aside from Operation Mindcrime II (which was alright, but not great), they haven't released anything halfway decent since the late 90's.


I think you give Mindcrime II too much credit.  I wasn't necessarily expecting "The Godfather Part II", but I was really disappointed when it turned out to be "Vegas Vacation".

Click Click D'oh: Silly article.  Queensryche didn't break up in 2012.  Queensryche broke up when DeGarmo left.


This.
 
2013-02-15 08:34:08 AM  
Summing up some key, missed ones. (Some were mentioned already)

Badfinger - this one might've set the bar for bad break-ups.
Pink Floyd - not a total break-up, but the post-Waters band wasn't the same band, I don't care what you say.
Styx - not a true break-up, but like Floyd, Styx sans DeYoung is just a limp oldies act.
Journey - same deal as Styx. Without Steve Perry it's a cover band called Journey.
Sweet - another one where losing an important member ruined the band's sound, and sent them spiraling into irrelevance.
Pantera - it was Phil's fault. Try and dispute that.
The Smiths - this might be one of the few, major bands left that has, and may never, attempt a reunion.
The Mars Volta - I'm amazed they lasted as long as they did.

mekkab: blue_2501: Nothing from the Norwegian black metal scene?  Wasn't there one band that broke up because one member ate another?

farkingismybusiness: Mayhem?

Yes, this kinda tops 'em all.

'Band broke up because guitarist forced the singer to kill himself.'

Oh, but carry on with your list of slap-fights back stage and trash talking in magazines, I'm sure those were brutal.


Dead was a majorly depressed dude. By all accounts I've read, he would've done the deed sooner or later without Euronymous' help.
 
2013-02-15 08:34:51 AM  
www.bundyology.com
 
2013-02-15 08:41:33 AM  
missed on the list - CCR (that was a BIG miss considering how bad the feud was between the Fogerty's), Split Enz and the Black Crowes (who have , again, started working together)
 
2013-02-15 08:44:48 AM  

pickle65: I hate the farking Eagles man

 
2013-02-15 08:47:50 AM  

pickle65: I hate the farking Eagles man


SO MUCH THIS^^^^^

/Some asshat called them the American Beatles and I was FURIOUS!
//Oh Yea......THEY SUCK!!!
 
2013-02-15 08:51:11 AM  

sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band.


This, ESPECIALLY in Queensryche's case.  A friend of mine did sound for Fates' Warning on that tour, so he was there for the entire thing.  Heard about it long before it became public knowledge.  Love, love, love that the article doesn't mention Tate knowing about it before hand and being late to the show.  Or the part about him tearing apart the drumset, or any of the other shiat he did once he got there.  Or that they not only did they still end up playing - albeit late - they had security on the stage's wings to make sure HE didn't start another onstage fight.  And that they played three more gigs (IIRC) the same way.

After the whole thing went down, I think the realization was, I've completely lost any respect I might have had for Geoff Tate.   The moral of the Queensryche story is that not all of Spinal Tap is a joke.  Don't ever have a manager who's related by blood or marriage to a member of the band.

\My moral, it's good to know people who can supply you with CSBs in this case!
 
2013-02-15 08:51:28 AM  

ColTomParker: Pretty sure The Carpenters weren't even able to sit at a meal together . . .


chortle
 
2013-02-15 08:51:53 AM  
 
2013-02-15 08:54:42 AM  

InmanRoshi: Uncle Tupelo's breakup was pretty messy.


knew there was a reason I liked Farrar better than Tweedy.

\same goes for Son Volt vs Wilco
 
2013-02-15 08:56:00 AM  

sadbad: I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha.


Look, if Iha would have just done exactly what Billy told him at all times, never raised a peep of protest when Billy blamed him for every wrong note the band ever played, and conformed to the thrice daily worship service dedicated to Billy's Godlike Aura, the Pumpkins would still be together today. But no, Iha chose to be selfish and make it all about himself.
 
2013-02-15 08:57:11 AM  

ozarkmatt: Tommy Shaw and (JY) vs. Dennis DeYoung. Boy, that was a cluster fark.


I'll say.  But DeYoung gets the golden douche award in this case.  Morphing into Barry Manilow after Babe went to #1 was bad enough.  But *forcing* them to do all the stupid stuff....the Roboto album....refusing to play in larger venues.....and then the ridiculous "play" he made them (try to) perform.  They were lucky the crowds didn't rumble at the shows.

Tommy and JY just wanted to play Rock & Roll....without all the stupid stuff.  And they're doing it now.
 
2013-02-15 09:03:32 AM  
Rolling Stone has proven absolutely incapable of making lists when they left Brian Setzer off the top 100 guitarists of all time. From the reaction towards this list in this thread, their history continues.
 
2013-02-15 09:06:24 AM  

baltimoreblonde: dookdookdook: ABBA turned down a billion (with a "B") dollars for a reunion tour in 2000.  That's true hate.

I don't think it's hate, it's more like "We're all doing our own thing, and we definitely don't need the money."


And, (not trying to be sexist here) it may have something to do with the fact that the women aren't thrilled about it since they've all aged considerably.     Y'know....why deal with the inevitable criticism about "how they don't look as good as they used to" when they're living comfortably as billionaires?

\ABBA was Sweden's largest money-making business 2nd only to Volvo.
 
2013-02-15 09:07:48 AM  

ScouserDuck: Rolling Stone has proven absolutely incapable of making lists when they left Brian Setzer off the top 100 guitarists of all time. From the reaction towards this list in this thread, their history continues.


Oh, they're perfectly capable of making lists.  They're just perfectly incapable of not letting their egos and sycophantic worship of friendships with famous musicians get in the way of good musical judgement.

\anyone who still reads RS is sadly and horribly misinformed about music
\\and overly informed about quite a few things that have NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSIC
 
2013-02-15 09:08:27 AM  

swankywanky: missed on the list - CCR (that was a BIG miss considering how bad the feud was between the Fogerty's), Split Enz and the Black Crowes (who have , again, started working together)


Do people really care if you had a messy break-up if you were a one hit wonder?

/I dont know why sometimes I get frightened
 
2013-02-15 09:09:39 AM  

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: pickle65: I hate the farking Eagles man

SO MUCH THIS^^^^^

/Some asshat called them the American Beatles and I was FURIOUS!
//Oh Yea......THEY SUCK!!!


I'm pretty sure there is a huge population who hate The Eagles purely because of The Big Lebowski. No, not everyone has to like them, but I have a feeling that it has a similar effect to what the movie Sideways did to Merlot sales.
 
2013-02-15 09:11:55 AM  

digistil: ecl: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.

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Also, Sting is a condescending butthole.

Unfortunately, most successful, insanely talented people are.


The best song Sting ever wrote in his solo career doesn't hold up to anything The Police did when they were farking warming up and tuning their guitars, sorry. He's an over-rated self important douche who was not the best part of that band.
 
2013-02-15 09:14:00 AM  

Onkel Buck: swankywanky: missed on the list - CCR (that was a BIG miss considering how bad the feud was between the Fogerty's), Split Enz and the Black Crowes (who have , again, started working together)

Do people really care if you had a messy break-up if you were a one hit wonder?

/I dont know why sometimes I get frightened


Maybe one hit in America.  They're a lot bigger in most of the world.    In Austrailia and New Zealand they're the farking Beatles.
 
2013-02-15 09:16:07 AM  
Guns and Roses:  how much money did they leave on the table? jesus.

Even worse, the bandmates were unable to agree on a future musical direction. Guitarist Mick Jones was becoming enamored with hip-hop, bassist Paul Simonon liked reggae and frontman Joe Strummer wanted a return to punk. Jones and Strummer were barely talking when they returned from a long hiatus to play the US Festival in 1983. The show didn't go very well, and the Clash felt like sellouts for playing the corporate gig. Jones left the band soon afterwards, and the less said about the Clash's 1985 swan song, Cut the Crap, the better.

there's a heartbreaking moment in the....1991-ish "Westway to the World" documentary, where Joe basically admits without admitting that kicking Mick out was catastrophically stupid.  he's refelcting on how the band ended (with a whimper) and  how they'd forced out Mick.  I haven't sen it in some time but JOe is struggling for words, he appears to be juuuuuust on the verge of crying, and he says something like, "when you have "it", you have the necessary ingredients......don't fark with it.  don't fark with The Document."  and it seems pretty clear it is a mea culpa for what happened.

and in mid 1999, there was talk of a summer 2000 reunion.  *sigh*  a lot of folks have 9/11 as their "Welcome to fark" moment....Joe's death may be mine.
 
2013-02-15 09:18:38 AM  

Madbassist1: The best song Sting ever wrote in his solo career doesn't hold up to anything The Police did when they were farking warming up and tuning their guitars, sorry. He's an over-rated self important douche who was not the best part of that band.


Just one of those rare combinations of musicians that fires on all 8 cylinders.  They caught lightening in a bottle....unfortunately one member decides he's the king and pulls the cork.  Yep....extremely unfortunate.
 
2013-02-15 09:19:33 AM  
Milli Vanilli?

/runs from thread
 
2013-02-15 09:20:56 AM  

qsblues: Milli Vanilli?

/runs from thread


Nice.

10/10
 
2013-02-15 09:22:37 AM  
The Fall had 40 or more lineup changes since they formed. They range from half the band being sacked while touring in Australia to a full-on fistfight in 1999. At least one band member comes back to reform, apart from Mark.
 
2013-02-15 09:26:08 AM  
Mostly because Mr. White is a liar.
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2013-02-15 09:28:43 AM  
should Talking Heads be on the list?

i read a bio of them and as i remember it, Byrne went off wtih Eno to make a Serious World Music album that would seal his image as a Serious Artist. left in the lurch, Tina (the inventor of "Nerd Hot") and Chris farked of to jamaica and did Tom Tom Club.

few months later, "Genius Of Love" becomes a massive, multi-genre hit and Byrne's alvum (Bush Of Ghosts?) went largely ignored.....which the author claimed, as i recall, drove a serious and ultimately fatal wedge in the band.

and i'm really hazy on this story, but i think at a party, Tina went up to David (htey hadn't spoken in years or some shiat) and said, "hi, my name's Tina.  We used to be in a band together."   illustrative of the chasm that had developed.
 
2013-02-15 09:29:56 AM  
Dammit man, the Doobie Brothers broke up! Sh*t! When did that happen?
 
2013-02-15 09:30:07 AM  
i.imgur.com

Insanely creative people can be very difficult to get along with sometimes.
 
2013-02-15 09:32:17 AM  

ScouserDuck: I'm pretty sure there is a huge population who hate The Eagles purely because of The Big Lebowski. No, not everyone has to like them, but I have a feeling that it has a similar effect to what the movie Sideways did to Merlot sales.


i've told this story before but, for decades i've hated the eagles. in music threads here, i'd say how much i hate the eagles.  because i do. i farking hate them.

so, people would say, "ok ricky, we get it, 'shut the fark up donny'", or "ok dude, we saw 'big lebowski' too, settle down" and I never got the joke, as i'd never seen TBL.

so it wasn't until about, ohhhh, 2-3 years ago i finally saw Lebowski, and then it all made sense.

bt in point of fact, i farking hate the eagles and always have.  even in high school.  one of my best friends listened to Hotel California before races and I think that's where i developed my hatred of them.  I farking hate the godamn eagles.
 
2013-02-15 09:34:07 AM  

roll_with_sobchak: Dammit man, the Doobie Brothers broke up! Sh*t! When did that happen?


I did not think I would see a Romancing the Stone reference today.  Thank you.
 
2013-02-15 09:35:52 AM  

rickythepenguin: ScouserDuck: I'm pretty sure there is a huge population who hate The Eagles purely because of The Big Lebowski. No, not everyone has to like them, but I have a feeling that it has a similar effect to what the movie Sideways did to Merlot sales.

i've told this story before but, for decades i've hated the eagles. in music threads here, i'd say how much i hate the eagles.  because i do. i farking hate them.

so, people would say, "ok ricky, we get it, 'shut the fark up donny'", or "ok dude, we saw 'big lebowski' too, settle down" and I never got the joke, as i'd never seen TBL.

so it wasn't until about, ohhhh, 2-3 years ago i finally saw Lebowski, and then it all made sense.

bt in point of fact, i farking hate the eagles and always have.  even in high school.  one of my best friends listened to Hotel California before races and I think that's where i developed my hatred of them.  I farking hate the godamn eagles.


I'm sure plenty of people can't stand them in their own opinion..that's what happens with music. I just have a feeling tons of people saw TBL and then it became cool to hate The Eagles.
 
2013-02-15 09:47:48 AM  
List fails seriously without Credence Clearwater Revival.  When the legal aftermath keeps somebody out of studio for ten years, that is saying something.
 
2013-02-15 09:53:48 AM  
I'd have to vote for the Mamas and the Papas.  After hearing that John and Michelle hadn't talked to each other in years, I wondered "what the heck could've possibly happened to make them loathe each other so?"

Then MacKenzie makes her "I had a decades-long consensual sexual relationship with my father" announcement on Oprah.

Wow.  Yep, that would do it.
 
2013-02-15 09:55:37 AM  

Another Government Employee: List fails seriously without Credence Clearwater Revival.  When the legal aftermath keeps somebody out of studio for ten years, that is saying something.


I missed it too. That was a major oversight. CCR's break-up was so bad, the band's former record company sued the chief songwriter for plagiarizing himself.
 
2013-02-15 09:59:33 AM  

DisplacedTexan: I think you give Mindcrime II too much credit.  I wasn't necessarily expecting "The Godfather Part II", but I was really disappointed when it turned out to be "Vegas Vacation".


Still better than Dedicated To Chaos.
 
2013-02-15 09:59:52 AM  

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: pickle65: I hate the farking Eagles man

SO MUCH THIS^^^^^

/Some asshat called them the American Beatles and I was FURIOUS!
//Oh Yea......THEY SUCK!!!


So did the Beatles so they could be called America's Beatles on the basis of overrated and suckness.
 
2013-02-15 10:00:30 AM  
He kept screwing up the lyrics until Phil smashed a guitar over his head and stormed out.

They write this as if it's only sort of a big deal. SMASHED a guitar over his brother's head? Couldn't that have killed him?

If this were Guns N Roses, yeah no big deal, but the Everly Brothers? I have my doubts as to whether any guitar smashing over anyone's head actually took place.
 
2013-02-15 10:02:18 AM  

ScouserDuck: rickythepenguin: ScouserDuck:

bt in point of fact, i farking hate the eagles and always have.  even in high school.  one of my best friends listened to Hotel California before races and I think that's where i developed my hatred of them.  I farking hate the godamn eagles.

I'm sure plenty of people can't stand them in their own opinion..that's what happens with music. I just have a feeling tons of people saw TBL and then it became cool to hate The Eagles.


When I was in HS I was in choir for a year, and the director made us sing Eagles songs all year.  I've successfully hated them since the mid-90s.
 
2013-02-15 10:05:02 AM  

hasty ambush: Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: pickle65: I hate the farking Eagles man

SO MUCH THIS^^^^^

/Some asshat called them the American Beatles and I was FURIOUS!
//Oh Yea......THEY SUCK!!!

So did the Beatles so they could be called America's Beatles on the basis of overrated and suckness.


I am on-board with that statement...I was not furious over the Beatles comparison, I just cannot friggin stand the Eagles!

/Was punished with their shiate music as a youngster!
//Thanks mom & dad!
 
2013-02-15 10:06:20 AM  
The James Gang

/Joe Walsh FTW
// too drunk and stoned to notice
 
2013-02-15 10:12:49 AM  

rickythepenguin: there's a heartbreaking moment in the....1991-ish "Westway to the World" documentary, where Joe basically admits without admitting that kicking Mick out was catastrophically stupid. he's refelcting on how the band ended (with a whimper) and how they'd forced out Mick. I haven't sen it in some time but JOe is struggling for words, he appears to be juuuuuust on the verge of crying, and he says something like, "when you have "it", you have the necessary ingredients......don't fark with it. don't fark with The Document." and it seems pretty clear it is a mea culpa for what happened.


I'm not sure what keeping Mick in the band would have accomplished ultimately.     He wasn't "kicked out" arbitrarily.   He had found a completely different muse.    It's just like any other relationship ... sometimes they just run their course, there's no one to blame and not really anything anyone could have done differently.
 
2013-02-15 10:14:03 AM  

Another Government Employee: List fails seriously without Credence Clearwater Revival.  When the legal aftermath keeps somebody out of studio for ten years, that is saying something.


It says you were successful enough to afford some really good lawyers.
 
2013-02-15 10:14:41 AM  

Christian Bale: He kept screwing up the lyrics until Phil smashed a guitar over his head and stormed out.

They write this as if it's only sort of a big deal. SMASHED a guitar over his brother's head? Couldn't that have killed him?

If this were Guns N Roses, yeah no big deal, but the Everly Brothers? I have my doubts as to whether any guitar smashing over anyone's head actually took place.


Yeah, most accounts have him just breaking his guitar, no mention of assaulting Don. BTW, Keith Richards always said Don was maybe the best rhythm player ever.
 
2013-02-15 10:17:12 AM  

baltimoreblonde: dookdookdook: ABBA turned down a billion (with a "B") dollars for a reunion tour in 2000.  That's true hate.

I don't think it's hate, it's more like "We're all doing our own thing, and we definitely don't need the money."


Translated from Scandanavian Passive Aggressivene  Politeness , that means "I want to cut out your heart with a rusty spoon and feed it to you".
 
2013-02-15 10:18:13 AM  
FTA: Since then, things have only gotten worse between the original crew. Axl called Slash a "cancer" and refused to even attend the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction because his ex-bandmates would be in the room.

This from someone that didn't go back on stage in Montreal claiming "throat problems"...while smoking and drinking.

Fark Axi Rose.
 
2013-02-15 10:22:21 AM  

theurge14: Insanely creative


This list includes Oasis, Rage Against the Machine, and the Police.
 
2013-02-15 10:24:49 AM  

MFAWG: The Beatles aren't on there? My mother cried for a week. Seriously.


Even though they did break up, IIRC on Ringo's "Goodnight Vienna" album John, Paul and George were part of it in some ways.
 
2013-02-15 10:26:45 AM  
bluorangefyre:  And as far as The Beatles, the farther out in time things go, it seems like they felt like a spent force together and wanted to do their own things and go out on top.  I strongly feel that had Lennon not been shot, they'd have gotten back together just to see if they could still do it.  It wouldn't have been the same as Beatlemania, though.

They would've done it as a side project or they would've gone the way of the Stones.  I think the former would've been more comfortable for them.
 
2013-02-15 10:32:21 AM  

silvervial: Yet another reason I love Rammstein. The six of them are original members and if one ever leaves the band will cease to exist. They've said its a "six-way marriage" and they all get along, their families get along, some of their children are siblings, they are friends as well as band mates. I love knowing that people I love love each other, too. And they kick ass. So best of both worlds.

Video shoot for "Haifisch" (Shark). Supposed to be angry with each other and about to fight, but Richard and Paul can't even glare at each other without laughing.


DItto.  Freaking love Rammstein.
 
2013-02-15 10:35:06 AM  

QifutuWahuta: silvervial: Yet another reason I love Rammstein. The six of them are original members and if one ever leaves the band will cease to exist. They've said its a "six-way marriage" and they all get along, their families get along, some of their children are siblings, they are friends as well as band mates. I love knowing that people I love love each other, too. And they kick ass. So best of both worlds.

Video shoot for "Haifisch" (Shark). Supposed to be angry with each other and about to fight, but Richard and Paul can't even glare at each other without laughing.

DItto.  Freaking love Rammstein.


As someone who just discovered them while posting on this epic thread, yeah, they're damn awesome.
 
2013-02-15 10:40:45 AM  

drewogatory: Christian Bale: He kept screwing up the lyrics until Phil smashed a guitar over his head and stormed out.

They write this as if it's only sort of a big deal. SMASHED a guitar over his brother's head? Couldn't that have killed him?

If this were Guns N Roses, yeah no big deal, but the Everly Brothers? I have my doubts as to whether any guitar smashing over anyone's head actually took place.

Yeah, most accounts have him just breaking his guitar, no mention of assaulting Don. BTW, Keith Richards always said Don was maybe the best rhythm player ever.



Maybe he smashed the guitar over his OWN head. Now that would be epic.
 
2013-02-15 10:43:32 AM  

Madbassist1: digistil: ecl: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.

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Also, Sting is a condescending butthole.

Unfortunately, most successful, insanely talented people are.

The best song Sting ever wrote in his solo career doesn't hold up to anything The Police did when they were farking warming up and tuning their guitars, sorry. He's an over-rated self important douche who was not the best part of that band.


I think "The Onion" nailed this one.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/you-know-i-used-to-be-kind-of-cool- on ce,10932
 
2013-02-15 10:43:32 AM  

bluorangefyre: And as far as The Beatles, the farther out in time things go, it seems like they felt like a spent force together and wanted to do their own things and go out on top. I strongly feel that had Lennon not been shot, they'd have gotten back together just to see if they could still do it.


I think they would have gotten back together before John got shot if he hadn't been such a junkie/neurotic mess for most of the 70s.    It's not like any of them had a whole heck of a lot going for them in the late 70s keeping them overly busy.    Wings had run out of steam,  Dark Horse had flopped and Ringo was well ... being Ringo with his movie biz and one off tours.   It kinda felt like they were all consciously or sub-consciously  sitting around with their calenders open waiting for John to get his shiat together and for the phone to ring.  True, George hated Yoko with a passion of a thousand suns, but it didn't seem like anything that couldn't be worked out between he and John.   After John died, it seems they all went to their backup Plan B, and unfortunately that brought about Give My Regards to Broadstreet *shudder*.
 
2013-02-15 10:45:48 AM  

jake_lex: How can you have Queensryche's or Rage Against the Machine's breakup here but not Pink Floyd (the Gilmour-led band after Roger Waters' departure had to hire lawyers in every city of their first tour to keep Roger Waters from filing injunctions against them) or, for the love of God, the Beatles?

I guess they wanted to try to not go for the old standby, but Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.


Done in one. Came to say this about PF.
 
2013-02-15 10:49:21 AM  

Another Government Employee: List fails seriously without Credence Clearwater Revival.  When the legal aftermath keeps somebody out of studio for ten years, that is saying something.


there's something about CCR's choogling sound that makes me think it is music for dumb people. like that riff in "Down On the Corner"?  It just sounds dumb.  I don't hate CCR, I just think it is music for dumb people.


InmanRoshi: I'm not sure what keeping Mick in the band would have accomplished ultimately. He wasn't "kicked out" arbitrarily. He had found a completely different muse. It's just like any other relationship ... sometimes they just run their course, there's no one to blame and not really anything anyone could have done differently.


yeah....you can hear a lof of him on Combat Rock trying out different things (or even some of Sandinista!) that clearly indicate towards what would become B.A.D.  and Mick has since copped to his own shortcomings (skipping sessions, band meetings, his perpetual tardiness) that kinda forced their hand.....it seems a fait accompli i guess. who knows.

you might want to Youtube a "Jools Holland" appearance of Mick and Paul, circa 2009 or so.  Mick looked old, older than he should.  it was  a quick interview touching on various things, and when the de rigeur, "are you two going to play together?" question arose, I think it was Simmo who shot it down.

(and then about a year later, what dynamic duo joins Gorillaz?)
 
2013-02-15 10:52:26 AM  

rickythepenguin: you might want to Youtube a "Jools Holland" appearance of Mick and Paul, circa 2009 or so. Mick looked old, older than he should. it was a quick interview touching on various things, and when the de rigeur, "are you two going to play together?" question arose, I think it was Simmo who shot it down.


huh. it was 2004, but i saw it circa 2009 / 2010 on reruns.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00593r8

Jools is joined by Robbie Williams, Elvis Costello, Mick Jones and Paul Simonon of the Clash, Estelle, punk trio Green Day and singer-songwriter Nellie McKay.
 
2013-02-15 10:53:55 AM  
 Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.
 
2013-02-15 11:02:54 AM  

drewogatory:  Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.


That and you could only get away with playing the exact same song 12 times to make an album for so long.
 
2013-02-15 11:08:11 AM  

rickythepenguin: yeah....you can hear a lof of him on Combat Rock trying out different things (or even some of Sandinista!) that clearly indicate towards what would become B.A.D. and Mick has since copped to his own shortcomings (skipping sessions, band meetings, his perpetual tardiness) that kinda forced their hand.....it seems a fait accompli i guess. who knows.


I knew a guy who had hung out with them for a while when they were on their 83 tour.    He said Mick had this  little portable  drum machine thing that he was completely infatuated with and was always bopping along on, lost in his own little world.    Paul was always smoked out to the point of being near catatonic.    Joe seemed like he was at his wits end trying to find a way to veer them back on course.
 
2013-02-15 11:08:15 AM  

ScouserDuck: I'm sure plenty of people can't stand them in their own opinion..that's what happens with music. I just have a feeling tons of people saw TBL and then it became cool to hate The Eagles.


I'm sure you're right and I even love the movie from when the meme springs. Thankfully I have lots of living witnesses that my Eagles hate stretches back to The Long Run tour when I was in Jr high when all the posers at my school were singing eagles lyrics in the hallway. Still makes me cringe thinking about it and it was over thirty years ago. They are definitely in my top 5 lamest bands.
 
2013-02-15 11:13:59 AM  

InmanRoshi: I knew a guy who had hung out with them for a while when they were on their 83 tour. He said Mick had this little portable drum machine thing that he was completely infatuated with and was always bopping along on, lost in his own little world. Paul was always smoked out to the point of being near catatonic. Joe seemed like he was at his wits end trying to find a way to veer them back on course.


wow that's cool.

i hugely regret passing on a Mescaleros show circa 1999, perhaps 2000, just about a mile away from me.  i had been golfing that day and was exhausted.  maybe one year later (obviously) Joe passed away and it wasn't until later yet, that i learned he often stuck around after the show to sign autographs and shoot the shiat.

dammit.
 
2013-02-15 11:17:54 AM  

drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.


that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.
 
2013-02-15 11:20:35 AM  

rickythepenguin: should Talking Heads be on the list?

i read a bio of them and as i remember it, Byrne went off wtih Eno to make a Serious World Music album that would seal his image as a Serious Artist. left in the lurch, Tina (the inventor of "Nerd Hot") and Chris farked of to jamaica and did Tom Tom Club.

few months later, "Genius Of Love" becomes a massive, multi-genre hit and Byrne's alvum (Bush Of Ghosts?) went largely ignored.....which the author claimed, as i recall, drove a serious and ultimately fatal wedge in the band.

and i'm really hazy on this story, but i think at a party, Tina went up to David (htey hadn't spoken in years or some shiat) and said, "hi, my name's Tina.  We used to be in a band together."   illustrative of the chasm that had developed.


Ironically, "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts" is now considered a cult classic by critics, while "Genius Of Love" is mostly known for being the song that Mariah Carey sampled in her 1995 hit "Fantasy".
 
2013-02-15 11:21:42 AM  

FuryOfFirestorm: ronically, "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts" is now considered a cult classic by critics, while "Genius Of Love" is mostly known for being the song that Mariah Carey sampled in her 1995 hit "Fantasy".


yup...you could say Byrne got his revenge...30 years late.
 
2013-02-15 11:23:26 AM  

ScouserDuck: That and you could only get away with playing the exact same song 12 times to make an album for so long.


Chili Peppers have been doing it for thirty years now.
 
2013-02-15 11:23:40 AM  

rickythepenguin: InmanRoshi: I knew a guy who had hung out with them for a while when they were on their 83 tour. He said Mick had this little portable drum machine thing that he was completely infatuated with and was always bopping along on, lost in his own little world. Paul was always smoked out to the point of being near catatonic. Joe seemed like he was at his wits end trying to find a way to veer them back on course.

wow that's cool.

i hugely regret passing on a Mescaleros show circa 1999, perhaps 2000, just about a mile away from me.  i had been golfing that day and was exhausted.  maybe one year later (obviously) Joe passed away and it wasn't until later yet, that i learned he often stuck around after the show to sign autographs and shoot the shiat.

dammit.


Yeah, a farking shame.   No small wonder a guy who carried a heart that big and open to the world would eventually have it give out on him.
 
2013-02-15 11:24:27 AM  

Rwa2play: MFAWG: The Beatles aren't on there? My mother cried for a week. Seriously.

Even though they did break up, IIRC on Ringo's "Goodnight Vienna" album John, Paul and George were part of it in some ways.


Not "Goodnight Vienna" but this one:
upload.wikimedia.org

/only John played on "Goodnight Vienna"
 
2013-02-15 11:31:14 AM  
Smiths, Dead Kennedys and Rush.  Top three.
 
2013-02-15 11:31:26 AM  

realityVSperception: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band. I love that Billy Corgan has the balls to lay the blame for the original Pumpkins lineup collapsing entirely on Iha. I'm not even a big fan of either's music (though I do think that the guitar solo on "Cherub Rock" is one of the best of the 90s - so a point to Corgan), but since 2000 Iha has collaborated with what seems like a ton of people, kept a relatively low profile, seems chill, all while Billy Corgan has constant verbal slappy-fights with Courtney Love on Twitter, a revolving door of bandmates and spends a gratuitous amount of time giving interviews trash-talking all of his ex-bandmates and exes. Oh yes, I'm sure it was all James Iha's fault, Billy.

Big Al Anderson & NRBQ and Natalie Merchant & 10,000 Maniacs spring to mind

/Howard Johnson's got his mojo working


I don't remember there being a fight when Merchant left the Maniacs. She was just ready to go solo, and the guys who formed the band wanted it to be their band again, not hers. And even if there were hard feelings - and I'm sure there were - I never saw where Merchant blamed the whole rest of the band for the demise.
 
2013-02-15 11:32:14 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.

that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.


This is pretty much why I wish Green Day would just go away. IMO they should've left the band in the nineties where it belonged, because every album since they have come back has essentially been "Hate the Republicans!" "Hate the politics!" "America , why can't you do anything right?!" While I didn't completely hate American Idiot, I was over their propaganda scheme relatively quickly.
 
2013-02-15 11:34:43 AM  

rickythepenguin: i hugely regret passing on a Mescaleros show circa 1999, perhaps 2000, just about a mile away from me.  i had been golfing that day and was exhausted.  maybe one year later (obviously) Joe passed away and it wasn't until later yet, that i learned he often stuck around after the show to sign autographs and shoot the shiat.

dammit.


wow, i hear you big time - I had just moved back to New England from Orlando (like drove back the day before) and they were playing not far from where I was staying.  between the move, the drive, my marriage at the time melting down, I said "fark it, he'll be back next year and I promise <to myself> that I'll go see him then."  what a bummer.
 
2013-02-15 11:34:57 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.

that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.


Considering that Paul Ryan bragged about being a big fan, your assessment sounds about right. At least half of RATM's fans are douche-bros that bang their heads to the music, but never actually LISTENED to the lyrics. The other half were kids that thought that wearing a Che Guevara shirt made them counter-culture revolutionaries despite not even knowing what Che Guevara actually did.
 
2013-02-15 11:38:21 AM  

silvervial: Yet another reason I love Rammstein. The six of them are original members and if one ever leaves the band will cease to exist. They've said its a "six-way marriage" and they all get along, their families get along, some of their children are siblings, they are friends as well as band mates. I love knowing that people I love love each other, too. And they kick ass. So best of both worlds.

Video shoot for "Haifisch" (Shark). Supposed to be angry with each other and about to fight, but Richard and Paul can't even glare at each other without laughing.


Don't get TOO warm and fuzzy over there. Rammstein almost qualified to top this list during the writing/ recording of and touring for the Mutter album. Things were really ugly during that time period. In fact, the "six way marriage" comments came as a result of that conflict. (Don't think Emigrate was just a cute little side project....)That Reise Reise even exists is no small miracle, but it took years to happen and there was a major lyrical and sound shift on that album as a result. It was like a 6 year gap between those 2 albums. Don't even get me started on the "some of their children are siblings" thing, because that wasn't always a good time either.

As for the Haifisch viseo... yeah, it's a video. These guys are a PR machine, you'll never accidentally see something candid, especially in a video.
 
2013-02-15 11:40:02 AM  

chrisco123: Smiths, Dead Kennedys and Rush.  Top three.


Forgive me if i'm wrong, but to the best of my knowledge Rush is still touring and making music...

/slap a dee biase mon
 
2013-02-15 11:43:19 AM  
I never made it through Rolling Stones list.  I gave up after just two bands, sick of the website popup telling me about their iPad application.

Was Talking Heads on there?
 
2013-02-15 11:47:24 AM  
List fails because it doesn't have the bands that I think they should. Sarcasm.
 
2013-02-15 11:50:04 AM  

NewbornRook: FeedTheCollapse: drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.

that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.

This is pretty much why I wish Green Day would just go away. IMO they should've left the band in the nineties where it belonged, because every album since they have come back has essentially been "Hate the Republicans!" "Hate the politics!" "America , why can't you do anything right?!" While I didn't completely hate American Idiot, I was over their propaganda scheme relatively quickly.


eh, Green Day's political songs have never quite struck me with being quite as stone-faced serious as RATM's were, though their later (American Idiot-onward) work certainly seems to garnered a lot of praise for fairly shallow reasons.
 
2013-02-15 11:51:21 AM  

Christian Bale: He kept screwing up the lyrics until Phil smashed a guitar over his head and stormed out.

They write this as if it's only sort of a big deal. SMASHED a guitar over his brother's head? Couldn't that have killed him?

If this were Guns N Roses, yeah no big deal, but the Everly Brothers? I have my doubts as to whether any guitar smashing over anyone's head actually took place.


Remember we're talking about the Everly Brothers. Acoustic guitars smash up pretty easy.
 
2013-02-15 11:51:21 AM  

GreenAdder: Dead Kennedys
Misfits
Black Flag


These, although I tend to Black Flag as a slow, epic, painful deterioration rather than a break-up.

TFA mentions the first two Pixies albums as being more-or-less masterpieces.  I'm assuming they mean Surfer Rosa and Doolittle and are skipping Come On, Pilgrim, right?
 
2013-02-15 11:52:11 AM  
VIEW.  Tend to VIEW.

/it's called preview, asshole.
 
2013-02-15 11:57:41 AM  

Champion of the Sun: ScouserDuck: That and you could only get away with playing the exact same song 12 times to make an album for so long.

Chili Peppers have been doing it for thirty years now.


Oh, come on now.  There's a palpable shift between pre- and post-Blood Sugar.They've only been doing that for slightly over 20 years/??? (and who cares) albums.

/D) Profit!
 
2013-02-15 12:00:01 PM  

Fano: Nirvana's was pretty messy


♪ If loving this post is wrong, I don't wanna be right! ♫
 
2013-02-15 12:11:24 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.

that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.


Meh.  As you can see here, they kind of wussed out by the end.
 
2013-02-15 12:14:13 PM  

Fano: Nirvana's was pretty messy


(snort)

Beatles, VH and others have been covered by you farks.  As expected.  Good jorb.
 
2013-02-15 12:43:59 PM  
Is Pantera on there? Hell, I think even after Dimebag died, the Abbott family put out standing orders that Phil Anselmo not be allowed at his funeral.
 
2013-02-15 12:54:14 PM  

NewbornRook: FeedTheCollapse: drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.

that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.

This is pretty much why I wish Green Day would just go away. IMO they should've left the band in the nineties where it belonged, because every album since they have come back has essentially been "Hate the Republicans!" "Hate the politics!" "America , why can't you do anything right?!" While I didn't completely hate American Idiot, I was over their propaganda scheme relatively quickly.


Love me some old Green Day, but do yourself a favor and check out their album Warning. It's the album "Minority" came off of, but that song isn't representative of the rest of the album. No real political BS.
 
2013-02-15 01:01:31 PM  
www.ridicularity.com
 
2013-02-15 01:05:13 PM  

deanis: chrisco123: Smiths, Dead Kennedys and Rush.  Top three.

Forgive me if i'm wrong, but to the best of my knowledge Rush is still touring and making music...

/slap a dee biase mon


Yes, but in Canadian terms, that's a biatch-slapping catfight.
 
2013-02-15 01:05:15 PM  
farm2.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-15 01:16:38 PM  

ten foiled hats: VIEW.  Tend to VIEW.

/it's called preview, asshole.


I was curious to see what you would decide to Black Flag...

/preview is helpful
//haste makes waste
///wtf am I saying?
 
2013-02-15 01:17:11 PM  
In other news, the Andrews Sisters have reunited again after a messy break up.

/runs from thread again
 
2013-02-15 01:18:31 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: FeedTheCollapse: drewogatory: Rage's breakup seems like it was just because the other members of the band weren't as serious about the Che Guevara shirts they were wearing as Zach de la Rocha was.

That band was never going to age well. They were trapped stylistically in a genre that probably already felt pretty ridiculous when you were 23, much less 30.

that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.

Considering that Paul Ryan bragged about being a big fan, your assessment sounds about right. At least half of RATM's fans are douche-bros that bang their heads to the music, but never actually LISTENED to the lyrics. The other half were kids that thought that wearing a Che Guevara shirt made them counter-culture revolutionaries despite not even knowing what Che Guevara actually did.


LOL I like Rage. I don't listen to them much anymore, but I don't turn them off when they come on the radio, either. The reason I am posting however, is that it is painfully obvious that on any given day, at any given time both of you guys feel pretty good about yourselves in general, and likely consider yourselves the smartest guys in the room more often than not.
 
2013-02-15 01:37:19 PM  
Nirvana?
 
2013-02-15 01:44:35 PM  

verbaltoxin: The Mars Volta


this one was a kick in the pants.  loved that band to dear death :(

my own 2 cents on The Police:    i'll take Copeland's writing over Sting's any day.
 
2013-02-15 01:57:25 PM  

MadMonk: hurdboy: djjonze: Ween

^^ Inconsolable for weeks.

How was Ween a messy break up?  I thought Freeman quit because he wanted to fish full time?  That band was around for a long time, they were getting old and I can't imagine he could keep singing in all those different voices much longer without starting to sound old and tired.


They never broke up anyway.

"I can only speak for myself, but as far as I'm concerned, as long as Aaron and I are both alive on this planet, Ween is [sic] still together. We've never broken up. The idea of quitting is just laughable. This isn't something you can quit. This is a life sentence."

/La la la. I can't hear you.
 
2013-02-15 01:59:03 PM  
Thinking back, the list also fails without the Allman Brothers.  Drugs, death, Cher, deceit, and unreconciled jealousies persisting to this day.  Gregg's book touches on some of it.
 
2013-02-15 02:03:31 PM  

Losac: Is Pantera on there? Hell, I think even after Dimebag died, the Abbott family put out standing orders that Phil Anselmo not be allowed at his funeral.


I'm not metal fan and had never really been exposed to Pantera until I saw them open for Black Sabbath during their reunion tour, but in the torturous half-hour or so that they played Phil Anselmo wins the award as the biggest douchebag I've ever seen in my life. Worse than Noel and Liam Gallagher, Billy Corgan, or even Morriessy.

The sad part is that the rest of the band was really good.
 
2013-02-15 02:18:50 PM  
Sorry, but this is yet another area where The Beatles set the standard.
 
2013-02-15 02:29:32 PM  
List fails without Creedence Clearwater Revival.
 
2013-02-15 02:33:47 PM  
They forgot the Rolling Stones, oh wait, The Stones are  STILL together after 50 YEARS.  That's right, all the rest of you rock bands are nothing compared to the Rolling Stones.  Nothing I say.
 
2013-02-15 02:35:17 PM  

CarnySaur: The Veruca Salt breakup was pretty messy according to many accounts.


To say the least.

Allegedly there was a love triangle between Nina Gordon, Louise Post, and Dave Grohl. When it all came apart the girls went their separate ways, Post kept the name, and uncorked Resolver, perhaps the most vengeful, hate-filled retaliation album I've ever heard. Dr. Dre could have learned a thing or two about diss records from that one.
 
2013-02-15 02:36:48 PM  
I look at these shiate heads like the Police and the Eagles and CCR and all these bands breaking up when they are still popular and making good music and making a ton of money.  I get to thinking, you know it is POSSIBLE to keep it together and be a band even if there is conflict.  Look at Aerosmith.  Joe Perry and Steven Tyler have a real love/hate thing going on.  But they still can make it work.

The problem with these bands is they become too much narcissists.  They tend to forget that a LOT of people have their livelihood wrapped around the band.
 
2013-02-15 02:37:03 PM  
   
rickythepenguin:  ScouserDuck: I'm pretty sure there is a huge population who hate The Eagles purely because of The Big Lebowski. No, not everyone has to like them, but I have a feeling that it has a similar effect to what the movie Sideways did to Merlot sales.
i've told this story before but, for decades i've hated the eagles. in music threads here, i'd say how much i hate the eagles.  because i do. i farking hate them.
so, people would say, "ok ricky, we get it, 'shut the fark up donny'", or "ok dude, we saw 'big lebowski' too, settle down" and I never got the joke, as i'd never seen TBL.
so it wasn't until about, ohhhh, 2-3 years ago i finally saw Lebowski, and then it all made sense.
bt in point of fact, i farking hate the eagles and always have.  even in high school.  one of my best friends listened to Hotel California before races and I think that's where i developed my hatred of them.  I farking hate the godamn eagles.


I never saw "The Big Lebowski" and was unaware of a Eagles reference so I have to get around to watching that one.
 
2013-02-15 02:40:02 PM  
the Byrds?
 
2013-02-15 02:50:38 PM  
If you were around for the Beatles' breakup, it was the most entertaining thing ever. The constant slagging in the press was amplified by things like Paul's "Too Many People" insulting John, and John's reply "How Do You Sleep." George weighed in with "Sue Me Sue You Blues" and only Ringo seems to have kept his cool.

Second place would be Pink Floyd, especially given the acrimony among the fans who split up into Gilmore camps and Waters camps, and hate each other to this day.
 
2013-02-15 02:51:05 PM  

Tyrosine: Losac: Is Pantera on there? Hell, I think even after Dimebag died, the Abbott family put out standing orders that Phil Anselmo not be allowed at his funeral.

I'm not metal fan and had never really been exposed to Pantera until I saw them open for Black Sabbath during their reunion tour, but in the torturous half-hour or so that they played Phil Anselmo wins the award as the biggest douchebag I've ever seen in my life. Worse than Noel and Liam Gallagher, Billy Corgan, or even Morriessy.

The sad part is that the rest of the band was really good.



Well, you had two different Phil's: the smart, sober one who liked to have a laugh and could actually speak well on a variety of worldly subjects and then you had the other Phil- the Phil who liked to get as loaded as possible on booze and pills and say things like "SMOKE HEROIN" and throw out Nazi salutes from the stage. That Phil was a hateful mess of a human being who actual stated at the end of an interview "Dimebag Darrell needs to be severely beaten". He's since attemped to explain that statement, but really- how do you justify saying something like that about a man who, based on 99.99% of accounts, was one of the sweetest, most down-to-earth human beings EVER? Answer- you don't.

It was Phil's fault.
 
2013-02-15 03:01:35 PM  

darch: Tyrosine: Losac: Is Pantera on there? Hell, I think even after Dimebag died, the Abbott family put out standing orders that Phil Anselmo not be allowed at his funeral.

I'm not metal fan and had never really been exposed to Pantera until I saw them open for Black Sabbath during their reunion tour, but in the torturous half-hour or so that they played Phil Anselmo wins the award as the biggest douchebag I've ever seen in my life. Worse than Noel and Liam Gallagher, Billy Corgan, or even Morriessy.

The sad part is that the rest of the band was really good.


Well, you had two different Phil's: the smart, sober one who liked to have a laugh and could actually speak well on a variety of worldly subjects and then you had the other Phil- the Phil who liked to get as loaded as possible on booze and pills and say things like "SMOKE HEROIN" and throw out Nazi salutes from the stage. That Phil was a hateful mess of a human being who actual stated at the end of an interview "Dimebag Darrell needs to be severely beaten". He's since attemped to explain that statement, but really- how do you justify saying something like that about a man who, based on 99.99% of accounts, was one of the sweetest, most down-to-earth human beings EVER? Answer- you don't.

It was Phil's fault.


This. Phil is a junkie and by all accounts a total asshole. Every anecdote I've ever heard of people who met Dimebag Darrell (from fans, or fellow musicians) was of him being one of the nicest and friendliest people in the business.
 
2013-02-15 03:02:32 PM  
After reading Felder's book, safe to say he'll ever be back in that band.  He had some stuff to say about the others.

I personally can't believe the DLR/VH reunion ever happened.   In Dave's book he states that after one a show, Valerie came to his hotel room looking for him in particular.  Dave says the room party was in full swing, he didnt find her attractive, and he told her to beat it, so she wandered down the hall and found Ed's room, and the rest was history.   It's one thing to talk smack about a guy's wife behind his back, it's another to put in in print.

At the Clash's US Festival show, you can tell Joe has had enough, he is just ticked off the whole time.  Supposedly after the show there was a backstage fight involving Mick and some concert security guys or something, and he just split right afterwards.  Joe and Paul conferred with Bernie Rhodes, and Bernie told them they didnt need Mick anymore, so they called him and told him he was out of the band.
 
2013-02-15 03:11:57 PM  

CrotchBeard: I'd have to vote for the Mamas and the Papas.  After hearing that John and Michelle hadn't talked to each other in years, I wondered "what the heck could've possibly happened to make them loathe each other so?"

Then MacKenzie makes her "I had a decades-long consensual sexual relationship with my father" announcement on Oprah.

Wow.  Yep, that would do it.


MacKenzie is not exactly a reliable witness. What broke that band up was John Phillips love affair with the needle
 
2013-02-15 03:13:07 PM  
Tensions flared all throughout the tour in support of 1979's The Long Run, but they got even worse at a 1980 benefit show for Senator Alan Cranston. Felder didn't want the band involved in political causes, and when the senator's wife visited the band backstage, he said, "Nice to meet you . . . I guess." Those last two words sent Glenn Frey into an uncontrollable rage, and onstage that night, the Eagles were actually threatening each other on mic. "That's three more, pal," Frey said. "Get ready." He was actually counting the number of songs remaining before he administered a backstage beatdown.

Getting violent when people don't agree with your politics? Yep, sounds like a liberal to me.
 
2013-02-15 03:27:00 PM  

Brubold: Tensions flared all throughout the tour in support of 1979's The Long Run, but they got even worse at a 1980 benefit show for Senator Alan Cranston. Felder didn't want the band involved in political causes, and when the senator's wife visited the band backstage, he said, "Nice to meet you . . . I guess." Those last two words sent Glenn Frey into an uncontrollable rage, and onstage that night, the Eagles were actually threatening each other on mic. "That's three more, pal," Frey said. "Get ready." He was actually counting the number of songs remaining before he administered a backstage beatdown.

Getting violent when people don't agree with your politics? Yep, sounds like a liberal to me.


Conservatives tend to believe liberals to be nonviolent, which causes them to say egregiously insulting shiat. It amuses me when they get the smug knocked right off their faces and don't seem to be able to do anything but cry about it.
 
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2013-02-15 03:29:21 PM  

Brubold: Tensions flared all throughout the tour in support of 1979's The Long Run, but they got even worse at a 1980 benefit show for Senator Alan Cranston. Felder didn't want the band involved in political causes, and when the senator's wife visited the band backstage, he said, "Nice to meet you . . . I guess." Those last two words sent Glenn Frey into an uncontrollable rage, and onstage that night, the Eagles were actually threatening each other on mic. "That's three more, pal," Frey said. "Get ready." He was actually counting the number of songs remaining before he administered a backstage beatdown.

Getting violent when people don't agree with your politics? Yep, sounds like a liberal to me.HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

 
2013-02-15 03:33:31 PM  
I never pass up a chance to tell this story:
We grew up in Elk Grove Village, IL, just outside of Chicago, and found out just recently that Billy Corgan went to the same elementary school as us. He was a year older than my oldest brother, so I ask him if he knew Billy.
"Not sure, I remember some kid named Billy whose ass I used to kick all the time, but I can't remember his name...you should ask Mom, I was always in trouble cuz of him."
So I ask Mom:
"Yes, I remember him, Billy Corrigan, used to beat your brother up all the time and take his lunch money."

Two things I learned:
1) Billy Corgan was a bully
2) My brother's a liar
 
2013-02-15 03:41:26 PM  

Marshmallow Jones: personally can't believe the DLR/VH reunion ever happened.   In Dave's book he states that after one a show, Valerie came to his hotel room looking for him in particular.  Dave says the room party was in full swing, he didnt find her attractive, and he told her to beat it, so she wandered down the hall and found Ed's room, and the rest was history.   It's one thing to talk smack about a guy's wife behind his back, it's another to put in in print.


I call BS on that one.

1) Roth is one of the biggest BSers of all time.

2) He turned away Valerie Bertinelli in her prime? Yeah, right

3) Valerie wanted to ride on Dave's bone machine? Double "yeah, right"
 
2013-02-15 03:47:03 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: I call BS on that one.

1) Roth is one of the biggest BSers of all time.

2) He turned away Valerie Bertinelli in her prime? Yeah, right

3) Valerie wanted to ride on Dave's bone machine? Double "yeah, right"


I'm not a big Roth fan, but the guy was one of the biggest sex symbols of the 80s...hell, he was connected with Elle MacPherson for a period of time.
And Valerie Bertinelli in her prime was cute, but not hot.
 
2013-02-15 03:49:46 PM  

Usurper4: "Not sure, I remember some kid named Billy whose ass I used to kick all the time, but I can't remember his name...you should ask Mom, I was always in trouble cuz of him."
So I ask Mom:
"Yes, I remember him, Billy Corrigan, used to beat your brother up all the time and take his lunch money."



that's farking funny!

someone else from chicago says.....i forget he specifics, whether he was in a band or knew someone in a band in the late 80s, but the story was either James or Billy really wanted several of the guy's guitars, but he refused to sell.  then one night someone breaks in, steals his guitars...

and lo and freaking behold, the nascent Smashing Pumpkins later started appearing live with those guitars.  much like you saying "my broter's a liar", the guy ended his story with "billy corgan / james iha / the smashing pumpins are thieves!"
 
2013-02-15 04:20:28 PM  

nmiguy: They forgot the Rolling Stones, oh wait, The Stones are  STILL together after 50 YEARS.

1.bp.blogspot.com


www.photographersgallery.com

This band you refer to as the "Rolling Stones", I believe you're confusing them  with "The Mick and Keefy Variety Show,  featuring Charlie Watt's Bored Faces and Ronnie Wood's Nightly Struggle to Keep From Nodding Off On Stage".
 
2013-02-15 04:20:49 PM  

LDM90: Fear Factory? Fired guitar player, 5 years later took him back and fired bassist and drummer. Band now only has 2 permanent members.


So much this.
 
2013-02-15 04:36:52 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: FeedTheCollapse: that's pretty much how I feel about RATM. I loved them when I was a teenagers, but I haven't really had an inclination to listen to them in over a decade now. I'm sure the music is still fine (though I think they broke up after reaching an obvious creative dead-end), but the lyrics strike me as a something a stereotypical college-age kid would write when they first become politically-aware. "Music as a Political Revolution" has always struck me as kind of a lame premise that, at best, only really gives you very shallow converts who wouldn't otherwise give a shiat.

Considering that Paul Ryan bragged about being a big fan, your assessment sounds about right. At least half of RATM's fans are douche-bros that bang their heads to the music, but never actually LISTENED to the lyrics. The other half were kids that thought that wearing a Che Guevara shirt made them counter-culture revolutionaries despite not even knowing what Che Guevara actually did.


I will always argue that it's possible to like a band - or consider yourself to be a fan - without necessarily agreeing with the band's message. I really like the Eagles. I'd rank them among my favorite bands without hesitation. I think Henley and Frey are top-notch songwriters, not just the music but the lyrics. Even something modern like "Long Road Out Of Eden" has a quality to it that most modern songwriters (who are constrained to a poppy verse-chorus-verse format) can't match. They're also quite adept at making the voice of the song match the frontman/vocalist; when Joe Walsh is at the helm, you know it's a Joe Walsh song. When Timothy B. Schmit is singing, the tone is markedly different. And in a live show, they're note-perfect.

I don't agree with their political stance. But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate their music on its own merits.

I sort of feel the same way about Rage. Their political ideals aren't aligned with my own, and I'm no counterculture warrior. I rarely wear t-shirts, never mind Che t-shirts. But occasionally, after a long day at work, there's no feeling like blasting "Renegades Of Funk" on the ride home.
 
2013-02-15 04:37:51 PM  
I hear Summer's Eve is coming out with a new product called "Billy Corgan"
 
2013-02-15 04:44:00 PM  
Like Fleetwood Mac, and their love triangle. Although it was more of a love rectangle. However they did make some of their best music.
 
2013-02-15 04:59:46 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Ironically, "My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts" is now considered a cult classic by critics, while "Genius Of Love" is mostly known for being the song that Mariah Carey sampled in her 1995 hit "Fantasy".


However I do recall Tina saying David Byrne was always threatening to quit.  And then Genius of Love hit it big and it made more money than all the Talking Heads material combined.  That gave them a bit of clout dealing with Byrne's threats.
 
2013-02-15 05:00:49 PM  

Crewmannumber6: Like Fleetwood Mac, and their love triangle. Although it was more of a love rectangle. However they did make some of their best music.



a fairly prolific TFette let me crash at her house one time, a bungalow in the hollywood hills (just off the 101).  she told me when they bought it, one 'Mick Fleetwood" was on the title search.

i could only wonder how much coke had been ingested there.
 
2013-02-15 05:03:00 PM  

InmanRoshi: nmiguy: They forgot the Rolling Stones, oh wait, The Stones are  STILL together after 50 YEARS.

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This band you refer to as the "Rolling Stones", I believe you're confusing them  with "The Mick and Keefy Variety Show,  featuring Charlie Watt's Bored Faces and Ronnie Wood's Nightly Struggle to Keep From Nodding Off On Stage".


One of my favorite party games is asking people to name a "classic" Rolling Stone song and then telling them that, 90% of the time, it was either a Brian Jones composition or a Mick Taylor guitar lick that makes it so. People are always a bit surprised to learn that the coda to "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" was an impromptu jam by Taylor, and it's the best thing on that whole album.

At least Mick is still alive.
 
2013-02-15 05:04:19 PM  

pwn3d781: I sort of feel the same way about Rage. Their political ideals aren't aligned with my own, and I'm no counterculture warrior. I rarely wear t-shirts, never mind Che t-shirts. But occasionally, after a long day at work, there's no feeling like blasting "Renegades Of Funk" on the ride home.


Meh, I think the "stance" of RATM was always pretty overrated, both during and in hindsight.   There wasn't really anything ground breaking about them.  They made music to stomp around angrily to.    As such, you need that complimented the need to angrily stomp around.   There are about three time tested standard subject categories in Rock n Roll history.   a)  Woman did me wrong  b)  Parents/society just don't understand me  c)  Da Man.   No one should feel guilty about angrily stomping around to their music simply because they choose time tested formula of Option C.
 
2013-02-15 05:07:55 PM  
No Black Sabbath?

Lame list.
 
2013-02-15 05:14:39 PM  
I'd have to add Dinosaur Jr to the list... from what I remember reading in Our Band Could Be Your Life, it got crazy acrimonious between all of those guys at the very end.

I'm glad they wound up reuniting... I missed them the first time around, but they were one of the best shows I've ever seen.
 
2013-02-15 05:19:18 PM  

threefiveohonetwofivego: Our Band Could Be Your Life


farking PHENOMENAL rock book.
 
2013-02-15 05:31:06 PM  
While not technically a breakup, the way Mike Portnoy was ejected from Dream Theater was pretty messy.
 
2013-02-15 05:49:53 PM  

sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band.


For some reason, this makes me think of how Pearl Jam has had basically the same lineup since 1991 (except for drums and their current guy has been with them for 15 years).  For however pretentious we like to think Eddie Vedder can be, he and his bandmates must be doing something right.

(See also: Weird Al and his crew, who go back to about 1980, but we all know Al's a cool dude.)
 
2013-02-15 05:51:09 PM  
I liked the Eagles, more so with Joe Walsh. Now after reading some of these farkin comments, I'm feeling like I'm from loserville. Guess that's why I like farkin around.

Carry on.
 
2013-02-15 06:29:34 PM  

OldManDownDRoad: only Ringo seems to have kept his cool.


Oh, no, no, no, I don't smoke it no mo'.
I'm tired of waking up on the floor...
 
2013-02-15 06:47:10 PM  

JosephFinn: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band.

For some reason, this makes me think of how Pearl Jam has had basically the same lineup since 1991 (except for drums and their current guy has been with them for 15 years).  For however pretentious we like to think Eddie Vedder can be, he and his bandmates must be doing something right.

(See also: Weird Al and his crew, who go back to about 1980, but we all know Al's a cool dude.)


Eddy is a cool dude. Sat behind him in the bleachers at an M's game last year. Knows his baseball, and likes to talk about it. I didn't realize who he was at first.
 
2013-02-15 06:47:59 PM  
...

pwn3d781: there's no feeling like blasting "Renegades Of Funk" on the ride home.


"Renegades?"  I always thought it was "Redneck Case."

/With a redneck case of funk!
 
2013-02-15 06:50:15 PM  

rickythepenguin: threefiveohonetwofivego: Our Band Could Be Your Life

farking PHENOMENAL rock book.


ABSOLUTELY.  See also: American Hardcore, by Steven Blush, I believe.  (Also movie doc. fr.: book.)
 
2013-02-15 07:14:16 PM  

ten foiled hats: ...pwn3d781: there's no feeling like blasting "Renegades Of Funk" on the ride home.

"Renegades?"  I always thought it was "Redneck Case."

/With a redneck case of funk!


No, it was always "Renegades."

/trying too hard
 
2013-02-15 07:17:15 PM  
How many different combinations of Crosby, and/or Stills, and/or Nash, and/or Young did we get over the years?
 
2013-02-15 07:25:27 PM  

DigitalCoffee: How many different combinations of Crosby, and/or Stills, and/or Nash, and/or Young did we get over the years?


Now it's Crosby Stills & Mayer. They sing back up on John's new song Born & Raised

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLW6aMj45Hc
 
2013-02-15 07:26:52 PM  
Sorry. Crosby & Nash. Not Stills
 
2013-02-15 08:40:14 PM  

LDM90: Fear Factory? Fired guitar player, 5 years later took him back and fired bassist and drummer. Band now only has 2 permanent members.


Suffer
 
2013-02-15 09:13:27 PM  

pwn3d781: I sort of feel the same way about Rage. Their political ideals aren't aligned with my own, and I'm no counterculture warrior. I rarely wear t-shirts, never mind Che t-shirts. But occasionally, after a long day at work, there's no feeling like blasting "Renegades Of Funk" on the ride home.



eh, I understand what you mean, though i would say RATM's politics are more than just some unseen/unheard personal politics of the bandmembers; it's right there in the lyrics.
Otherwise, I think my politics are generally aligned with theirs, I just don't really agree with the songwriting style, I guess.  It feels very immature and I find that those who really like the band are hardcore into the lyrics to the point where I kind of think less about the fans. It just comes off as shallow pseudo-intellectualism. As an adult I just find it way overly serious.
 
2013-02-15 09:18:52 PM  

ristst: Madbassist1: The best song Sting ever wrote in his solo career doesn't hold up to anything The Police did when they were farking warming up and tuning their guitars, sorry. He's an over-rated self important douche who was not the best part of that band.

Just one of those rare combinations of musicians that fires on all 8 cylinders.  They caught lightening in a bottle....unfortunately one member decides he's the king and pulls the cork.  Yep....extremely unfortunate.


Tragic, really.  When they did their reunion tour a few years ago, I went to the Seattle show, and it was so awesome and tight it was unbelievable.  The musicianship on display, across the board, was simply elite.  I couldn't believe this band hadn't played together for the previous 20 years or so.  As it stands, they accomplished so much in so little time, it almost hurts to imagine what they might have accomplished if egos hadn't gotten in the way and they'd put another 10-20 years under their belts.
 
2013-02-15 09:22:20 PM  
the Split of the 1973/74 version of King Crimson was pretty messy.....

From what I've read, touring took a toll on them.... David Cross was feeling edged-out sound-wise by the other members on stage (his violin work was being drowned out by Wetton's massive bass sound and Fripp's wankery).. Wetton supposedly had a nasty drug habit. They had to pound unappreciative audiences into the ground with loud, lengthy improvs. The decision was made to eject Cross out of the band, so that by the time "Red" rolled around they were a three-piece, albeit with supporting studio musicians. (Oddly enough, original member Ian McDonald was to become part of the band again, but that was not to be).
The band was very tentative about ejecting Cross however, as Cross would "jump out a window" (quote from Fripp on the Buffamondo show, 1979) if he heard the news, supposedly suffering from depression at the time. But the call was made, and he was fired, and in the interview Fripp seems to regret the way it went down. (ie. a phone call instead of in person). Further tensions arose during the recording of "Red", when Fripp, Bruford and Wetton would creep into the studio and raise their respective levels of audio on the albums tracks, one-upping each other. In the end Fripp came to the conclusion that the end of the world was nigh (citing a huge economic collapse by the end of the decade), and retired from music for 3 years to attend some sort of teachings of a Mr. Bennett.
He supposedly offered for Wetton and Bruford along with the King Crimson name to continue on without him, to tour, but they declined. (They would later work together again in the band UK). Later on in the papers, Fripp cited that King Crimson was "Over. Forever and Ever".
 
2013-02-15 10:13:13 PM  
Hrm, I didn't know there was a bad breakup for Rage Against the Machine. I DO remember the Rolling Stone interview with the lead singer that was all about how hard it was to get him to agree to be interviewed but that's only because I think the band's politics are so ridiculously laughable that I loved reading about the group because the members could always be counted on to be total weekend class warriors.
 
2013-02-15 10:34:22 PM  

JosephFinn: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band.

For some reason, this makes me think of how Pearl Jam has had basically the same lineup since 1991 (except for drums and their current guy has been with them for 15 years).  For however pretentious we like to think Eddie Vedder can be, he and his bandmates must be doing something right.

(See also: Weird Al and his crew, who go back to about 1980, but we all know Al's a cool dude.)


I know they're, like, FARK most hated band, but U2 has been the same 4 guys since '77, though, from what I've heard, they almost called it quits a couple of times during their tenure.
 
2013-02-15 11:51:45 PM  

Usurper4: And Valerie Bertinelli in her prime was cute, but not hot.


I remember at one point she grew a big ol' butt....
 
2013-02-16 12:09:19 AM  

pjlawrence81: JosephFinn: sadbad: I love that the article sources most of its quotations from the lead singers. If there's one common thread in all band breakups it's that the ego of the vocalist starts to cannibalize the band.

For some reason, this makes me think of how Pearl Jam has had basically the same lineup since 1991 (except for drums and their current guy has been with them for 15 years).  For however pretentious we like to think Eddie Vedder can be, he and his bandmates must be doing something right.

(See also: Weird Al and his crew, who go back to about 1980, but we all know Al's a cool dude.)

I know they're, like, FARK most hated band, but U2 has been the same 4 guys since '77, though, from what I've heard, they almost called it quits a couple of times during their tenure.


shiat, that is a good call.  Rush is probably a little more at 1974.
 
2013-02-16 12:29:59 AM  
The Nightwish/Tarja split comes to mind. Considering Anette just called it quits after just two albums, I can guess the common denominator, and it starts with T and ends with s.

/Naming the main character in Imaginaerium Tom?
//Seriously?
 
2013-02-16 01:23:22 AM  
Who was at #1? I didn't see numbers .
 
2013-02-16 01:57:00 AM  
someone here just wrote the stupidest thing i have ever read about the rolling stones.
seeing as how it's late i'm going to bed.


/wtf
 
2013-02-16 01:30:11 PM  

Katya Bolsov: Rammstein


I know things got very tense during "Mutter," mostly because of Richard, but Emigrate specifically saved the band, according to Richard. He was having issues and getting to do Emigrate solved them. He also promised the guys that nothing he did with Emigrate would affect them and Rammstein would always come first with him (he did found Rammstein, after all) and he's proven his commitment to Rammstein ever since. It's been so long since the first Emigrate album because he's focused on Rammstein. The new Emigrate album should be out this year and I can hardly wait.

As for Richard's and Till's oldest daughters being sisters...yeah, it's probably not a good idea to take up with your band mate's former wife and have a kid with her, but I think they've handled that whole thing remarkably well.

The fact that they are all East Germans and have the same cultural background and they felt like aliens when they emerged to the West and so clung to each other helped a lot in keeping them together all these years.

No, things have not always been sunshine and puppies, but that's true in any relationship. The fact that they are still together and are still so close that they spend a lot of time together even when they aren't "forced" together like on tours says a lot.
 
2013-02-16 01:32:59 PM  
No mention of the Sex Pistols self-immolating on their US tour? Seriously?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a71_91srz0I (The infamous San Francisco gig. "Ever felt like you've been cheated?)

A burned-out and miserable looking Rotten, Paul and Glen absolutely furious at John's egomania and Sid completely smacked out of his mind. Sid would end up dead later that year.

This is seriously painful to watch.
 
2013-02-16 03:05:14 PM  
L.A. Guns
 
2013-02-16 03:38:02 PM  
List fails without Van Halen and Soundgarden.
 
2013-02-16 09:08:36 PM  
dookdookdook: ABBA turned down a billion (with a "B") dollars for a reunion tour in 2000.  That's true hate.

shiat for a billion dollars I'd whore myself out to singing ABBA music. I don't care if I have to sell my immortal soul to Lucifer to do it.
 
2013-02-17 01:05:41 PM  

Third_Uncle_Eno: the Split of the 1973/74 version of King Crimson was pretty messy.....

From what I've read, touring took a toll on them.... David Cross was feeling edged-out sound-wise by the other members on stage (his violin work was being drowned out by Wetton's massive bass sound and Fripp's wankery).. Wetton supposedly had a nasty drug habit. They had to pound unappreciative audiences into the ground with loud, lengthy improvs. The decision was made to eject Cross out of the band, so that by the time "Red" rolled around they were a three-piece, albeit with supporting studio musicians. (Oddly enough, original member Ian McDonald was to become part of the band again, but that was not to be).
The band was very tentative about ejecting Cross however, as Cross would "jump out a window" (quote from Fripp on the Buffamondo show, 1979) if he heard the news, supposedly suffering from depression at the time. But the call was made, and he was fired, and in the interview Fripp seems to regret the way it went down. (ie. a phone call instead of in person). Further tensions arose during the recording of "Red", when Fripp, Bruford and Wetton would creep into the studio and raise their respective levels of audio on the albums tracks, one-upping each other. In the end Fripp came to the conclusion that the end of the world was nigh (citing a huge economic collapse by the end of the decade), and retired from music for 3 years to attend some sort of teachings of a Mr. Bennett.
He supposedly offered for Wetton and Bruford along with the King Crimson name to continue on without him, to tour, but they declined. (They would later work together again in the band UK). Later on in the papers, Fripp cited that King Crimson was "Over. Forever and Ever".


Meh, I wouldn't necessarily call the various and still to this day ongoing King Crimson soap operas "breakups".  They've had so many incarnations of that band that it was more or less personality confilcts that arose at that particular point in time.  They're STILL trying to put a touring band together as far as I know, and the only person who has DEFINITELY called it quits is Bill Bruford, because he's retired from music, period.  Fripp  will always try to squeeze at least one last nut off in the name of King Crimson as long as he's alive, because his ego  won't let him do otherwise.

Adrian Belew and Tony Levin will play with anyone, anytime for any reason and make the best of it.  They've survived Frank Zappa and Peter Gabriel, respectively.  I can't think of two more massive egos than theirs; even Bono could take lessons from these guys.  The other remaining "members" of King Crimson will ride that wave as long as they possibly can, since practically nobody heard of them prior to getting that call from Fripp.

As long as Fripp is on this side of the dirt, there will always be a King Crimson in some way, shape or form.  He might even go the "KISS" route and hire somebody to play his parts and dress up like him.
 
2013-02-18 05:33:21 AM  
The Beatles, by far.

Ringo is having them killed off one by one.
 
2013-02-18 07:15:24 AM  

JohnnyRebel88: LDM90: Fear Factory? Fired guitar player, 5 years later took him back and fired bassist and drummer. Band now only has 2 permanent members.

Suffer


I used to crank Body Hammer from Demanufacture when I was banging my ex gf. She hated FF so it made for some angry sex! Now that was a messy break-up
 
2013-02-18 12:17:06 PM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: List fails without Van Halen and Soundgarden.


Soundgarden broke up? Damn.
 
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