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2013-02-14 04:39:15 PM  
Does the Corvette even carry a spare tire?
 
2013-02-14 04:41:23 PM  
Birth by fire!  The only way to learn.
 
2013-02-14 05:11:42 PM  
Ah so this story has a happy ending after all.

I hope that Big Mac was worth the felony attempted car jacking charge, genius.  Let the fond memory of that hamburger warm your heart as you get repeatedly raped in prison in the coming years.
 
2013-02-14 05:30:27 PM  
If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't try to carjack a Corvette
 
2013-02-14 05:51:10 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
Weak minds....criminal minds...
 
2013-02-14 05:51:37 PM  
I read this story like a month ago. I swear, same state and same situation but not a repeat story.
 
2013-02-14 05:52:40 PM  
Or try to hijack a boat?
 
2013-02-14 05:53:07 PM  
Man, Florida impresses me daily, thanks to Fark
 
2013-02-14 05:53:39 PM  

Rufus Lee King: What? Again? This seems to happen alla time.


Because nobody these days knows how to drive a stick.

I mean a stick shift. Like a car.
 
2013-02-14 05:54:05 PM  
Umm, most corvettes are autos.
 
2013-02-14 05:55:01 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Does the Corvette even carry a spare tire?


Not anymore, they have the run-flat tires installed.

/also, they produce Corvettes that have automatics
 
2013-02-14 05:55:36 PM  
Because there aren't a ridiculous amount of automatic Corvettes out there?
 
2013-02-14 05:55:51 PM  
The failed jack and theft / credit card fraud occurred on Jan 28th; and the phone was tracked to the alleged's residence on the same day.  So why then, did the police wait over a week before making the arrest?  By that time the phone and other stolen goods could have been long since sold; and if the victim was like most people, he probably had his SS card and other info in his wallet so even if he canceled the credit cards almost immediately, he could still be fighting against identity theft for some time.
 
2013-02-14 05:56:27 PM  

peewinkle: Because People in power are Stupid: Does the Corvette even carry a spare tire?

Not anymore, they have the run-flat tires installed.

/also, they produce Corvettes that have automatics


Was wondering the same>
 
2013-02-14 05:56:32 PM  

Deathray187: Umm, most corvettes are autos.


About one-third produced are auto. I think the new ones have paddle shifters, I didn't get a good look at the one at the Detroit Auto Show this year.
 
2013-02-14 05:57:37 PM  
If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't try to carjack a Corvettebe on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.
 
2013-02-14 05:58:46 PM  

supersonicshoelace: Or try to hijack a boat?


No, that's a bad idea too.

Buddy of mine in the coast guard on the west coast of Vancouver Island had to rescue three guys who had stolen a 40 foot sailboat from a habour in Vancouver.  No problem in the straights out of the city but once they were around Puget Sound and in the real ocean they were farked since none of them had any boating experience.

The hasty paint job over the name of the vessel and the "ummmm.....no...this boat is named....um...."Smith".  Yeah.  That's it. We're totally not the stolen boat you're looking for" radio call wasn't too convincing.  RCMP asked coast guard to do a slow slow tow back to port so that they could be waiting when they arrived.

/maritime story, bro
/yarrrrrr
 
2013-02-14 05:59:03 PM  

wild9: I read this story like a month ago. I swear, same state and same situation but not a repeat story.


FTA: Orlando police said the 20-year-old tried to carjack a man inside a Corvette near Orlando Regional Medical Center late last month, but couldn't steal the car because he didn't know how to use the clutch or stick-shift.

Yeah, it's a duplicate.
 
2013-02-14 05:59:26 PM  

JohnnyRebel88: peewinkle: Because People in power are Stupid: Does the Corvette even carry a spare tire?

Not anymore, they have the run-flat tires installed.

/also, they produce Corvettes that have automatics

Was wondering the same>


The run-flats I've heard about are pretty useless unless you are three blocks from a tire store when one goes out.
 
2013-02-14 06:04:02 PM  
Headline implies that all Corvettes are stick shifts.
 
2013-02-14 06:08:34 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Headline implies that all Corvettes are stick shifts.


I'm implying that subbys mom likes to drive stick.
 
2013-02-14 06:09:14 PM  
lolsheaven.com
 
2013-02-14 06:09:35 PM  
Automatics are the AOL of the automotive world.
 
2013-02-14 06:09:43 PM  
Come on subby, the Corellian Corvette is a space ship, it doesn't have a transmission.

Do you believe this guy?
 
2013-02-14 06:15:40 PM  
I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.
 
2013-02-14 06:18:51 PM  

peewinkle: Deathray187: Umm, most corvettes are autos.

About one-third produced are auto. I think the new ones have paddle shifters, I didn't get a good look at the one at the Detroit Auto Show this year.


cdn.slashgear.com
 
2013-02-14 06:19:35 PM  
I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.
 
2013-02-14 06:21:16 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


My minivan has a stick shift and steering wheel radio controls.
 
2013-02-14 06:23:29 PM  
From what I've seen, all the Corvettes around here (central VA) are driven by elderly retirees who take about 4 minutes to lower their poor hips to the driver seat.  And yes, they are all automatics.

CSB mode ON:

Was at paddling practice (outrigger canoes, you sick farks) in HS when a red w/ silver racing stripes Viper pulls into the parking lot.  Dude that got out must've been in his late 60's.  He exits the vehicle, stares at the car's FOB, and manages to set the alarm off.  He stands there looking confused as fark whilst me and my crew mates stared agog.  Eventually, another guy and I approach the guy and help him turn off the alarm.  He had no recollection of buying the car, or of driving it to Magic Island (the beach park in question).

I remember thinking "Man, I hope when I'm that old I have enough F-U money to not even recall making a purchase of that magnitude."

We got him back into the car, which he proceeded to curb smash so badly I was surprised he didn't blow his front tire.

CSB mode OFF
 
2013-02-14 06:24:49 PM  

wild9: I read this story like a month ago. I swear, same state and same situation but not a repeat story.


Same exact car too.
 
2013-02-14 06:24:54 PM  
They have run-flats, but since they such a large diameter mixed with such a thin sidewall, even that isn't useful for more than a few miles.
 
2013-02-14 06:29:58 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


If you're doing it right, it takes all of 2-3 seconds to shift a gear in a good vehicle. It's not a big deal to drive stick. I learned to drive manual in an 18-Wheeler, never wanted to go back to automatics, even in my regular car after that.
 
2013-02-14 06:31:55 PM  
Which is why I feel perfectly comfortable leaving my S4 parked in the hood at any sporting event I attend. We used to call the shifter the "n*gger button" in my younger days in Detroit. Not once did anyone attempt to abscond with my rides (all manuals).

/Enough anecdotes equal evidence.
 
2013-02-14 06:32:48 PM  
That's why I always buy a stick, and take my wallet and phone with me. Pro tip: Leave nothing in the car, they won't take nothing.

/as the 'good uncle', I've taught generations to drive sticks.
//Ain't hard...once it's moving, it's done.
///Learn hills, everything else is a piece of cake.
 
2013-02-14 06:33:43 PM  
My previous car had the perfect anti-theft device:  a manual transmission.

/when I dump my SUV in the next few months - I'm going back to one
 
2013-02-14 06:36:17 PM  

Mutiny32: They have run-flats, but since they such a large diameter mixed with such a thin sidewall, even that isn't useful for more than a few miles.


Actually, run-flats have extra-thick sidewalks that can support the car's weight during a flat tire situation.   They can go for about 50 miles Neil they get sketchy and should be replaced.
 
2013-02-14 06:36:52 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


I can shift and change the channel at the same time. I mean, like, is that some kind of special talent or what? What I don't do is text are snarf down a burger or slurp on big gulp.

Driving is my special time, where I like to get pissed off at the other people on the road. Don't fark with that, man!
 
2013-02-14 06:39:56 PM  
The sidewalls are much thicker from interior or to exterior.  I didn't mean the actual sidewall height.
 
2013-02-14 06:41:11 PM  

LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.


Same for me. I actually enjoy driving a manual.
 
2013-02-14 06:41:22 PM  
in the 1950's motorheads were installing cleverly placed fuel line cut-out switches in case of theft. the car would only go a few blocks and whoomph there it is. i'm guessing a lot of corvette guys don't get under the hood these days.

-- we all know most hoodlums aren't the brightest bunch but one might think by know that people would be aware they are most probably on camera these days. daylight crime without masking your identity is a tad foolish.
 
2013-02-14 06:41:26 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


If you havent tried it, how do you know you dont like it?

/ wont drive a slushbox
 
2013-02-14 06:44:46 PM  
A life of crime is probably also ill-advised if you're too stupid to know about surveillance cameras, credit card tracking, or the fact that cell phones can be located. But then, if you're stupid, you probably don't know what you don't know.
 
2013-02-14 06:47:16 PM  

Kraftwerk Orange: peewinkle: Deathray187: Umm, most corvettes are autos.

About one-third produced are auto. I think the new ones have paddle shifters, I didn't get a good look at the one at the Detroit Auto Show this year.

[cdn.slashgear.com image 850x566]


Damn that is ugly. I realize the car is built primarily for the driver and not the passenger, but it looks like the designers forgot they were making a two seater and just tacked the second seat on.
 
2013-02-14 06:50:17 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


Can you walk and chew gum at the same time? I can drive a stick with a cup of coffee in my hand.
 
2013-02-14 06:50:21 PM  
Heh.  I got lucky.  I grew up on a dairy farm.  I was driving (non-synchromesh manual) farm tractors from the time I was six.  That was a blast.

(You want to see something *really* freaky, see if you can find the shift pattern for a John Deere 620.  Not no sissy 'H' pattern, looked like a drunken snail track.  But WTF, it had a hand-operated clutch.)

First new car I bought was my first stick in a *CAR* as opposed to a tractor.  And the first thing I had to do with it was pull out of the dealer and make a left across a 4-lane, no median.  With my Dad behind me in his car.

/good times, man.
 
2013-02-14 06:50:46 PM  
I can drive and enjoy driving a manual, but they are going the way of the dinosaurs...so I hope that you stick only folks love used cars.
 
2013-02-14 06:52:26 PM  
Learned to drive on a stick. Never bought anything else. Well, at least until I got paralyzed. Kinda hard unless I could do some motorcycle controls.

/never had  more fun than dumping the clutch in a supercharged 302 and leaving about $30 worth of rubber on the street
 
2013-02-14 06:53:18 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: I can drive a stick with a cup of coffee in my hand.


You're one of those people that eats a bowl of cereal while driving, aren't you?
 
2013-02-14 06:53:28 PM  
If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't try to carjack a Corvette KILL YOURSELF.

/never drove a stick, but i know the tenor of these threads
 
2013-02-14 06:53:29 PM  

TheYeti: I can drive and enjoy driving a manual, but they are going the way of the dinosaurs...so I hope that you stick only folks love used cars.


Performance cars will always have a manual transmission.
 
2013-02-14 06:55:06 PM  

TheYeti: I can drive and enjoy driving a manual, but they are going the way of the dinosaurs...so I hope that you stick only folks love used cars.


What's wrong with a used car?

/kid at work just bought a new car and a manual never even entered the equation. Just makes me sad.
 
2013-02-14 06:56:28 PM  

LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.


Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....
 
2013-02-14 06:58:52 PM  

ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....


6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.
 
2013-02-14 07:00:37 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: I can drive a stick with a cup of coffee in my hand.

You're one of those people that eats a bowl of cereal while driving, aren't you?


No. I'm just saying that I can. It's not very hard to drive a manual. I'm sorry you're handicapped by not being able too. It's a limitation that I'm glad I don't have. I can drive anything and you can't. Not to be snarky but it's the truth.
 
2013-02-14 07:01:51 PM  

Deathray187: Umm, most corvettes are autos.


All cars are autos.
 
2013-02-14 07:04:25 PM  

LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.


Me too. I taught my wife how to drive a manual and now neither of us want anything else. I have a love-hate relationship with rental cars. I love being able to drive a newer model but I hate that I can't rent a manual.
 
2013-02-14 07:05:26 PM  

loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.


If you never drive over 50 I guess. I love my 6 speed Jetta GLI and the difference is quite noticeable. Cuts the RPM's considerably at higher speeds.
 
2013-02-14 07:06:23 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: It's not very hard to drive a manual.


While true, I fear one day breaking my leg and not being able to drive to work. I have driven with my arm in a sling before and it was a lot of work.
 
2013-02-14 07:08:46 PM  

loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.


Well, the new 'Vette is a 7-speed.  So there's that.
 
2013-02-14 07:10:44 PM  

toby34a: loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.

Well, the new 'Vette is a 7-speed.  So there's that.


Clearly for no reason.
 
2013-02-14 07:11:39 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.

If you never drive over 50 I guess. I love my 6 speed Jetta GLI and the difference is quite noticeable. Cuts the RPM's considerably at higher speeds.


First -  if you're not rocking a TDI, you're doing it [owning a VW] wrong.
Second - I may drive an Outback (no diesel option here in the US), that doesn't mean you should assume I drive slow.

/ about the wagon - I was interested in the Forester XT, but the turbo-charged engine option is automatic only.
 
2013-02-14 07:12:43 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: It's not very hard to drive a manual.

While true, I fear one day breaking my leg and not being able to drive to work. I have driven with my arm in a sling before and it was a lot of work.


Well... You don't "need" a clutch. Its really really really nice to have one but you can power shift without it. Starting from a dead stop kind of sucks, but it's doable.  I drove 300 miles in my old beetle with no clutch - she wasn't very happy with me after though. I battled through it, but it wasn't pretty. 
I know a guy that never used it and he could just slip it into gear no problem. He just "felt" it somehow.
 
2013-02-14 07:14:15 PM  
purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: I can drive a stick with a cup of coffee in my hand.

Not well I'd wager.  When you're driving, focus on driving.

/Cue the espresso sippin' autobahnners
 
2013-02-14 07:16:34 PM  

URAPNIS: toby34a:

Well, the new 'Vette is a 7-speed.  So there's that.

Clearly for no reason.

If Group B Rally cars from the 80's (putting out 600+ hp) were happily confined to 5 gears, I have to imagine today's 6 and 7 speed transmissions are largely for marketing purposes.

 
2013-02-14 07:17:06 PM  

loaba: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.

If you never drive over 50 I guess. I love my 6 speed Jetta GLI and the difference is quite noticeable. Cuts the RPM's considerably at higher speeds.

First -  if you're not rocking a TDI, you're doing it [owning a VW] wrong.
Second - I may drive an Outback (no diesel option here in the US), that doesn't mean you should assume I drive slow.

/ about the wagon - I was interested in the Forester XT, but the turbo-charged engine option is automatic only.


I've had it over 10 years and love it today as much as when I got it. The TDI back then wasn't even as nice as today's and I wasn't as "green" then either. I would seriously consider one if I was to buy new. They are really pretty sweet now.
 
2013-02-14 07:21:58 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


So you just dance around it and opt-out when it's your turn? I work with a guy like you.
 
2013-02-14 07:22:16 PM  

rustypouch: If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't be on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.


So, exactly how is one supposed to learn?  I've asked about 20 people (basically everyone I've ever known with a manual car since I was 16).  It always goes the same way.  First, they look at you like you asked if their sister would do outcalls.  Then, usually, they feel a little bad about it, but stammer for a minute and say "mutter mutter, my clutch is umm..., mutter". Okay, there is also the jerk who makes fun of you endlessly for not knowing how, but also refuses to let you try on his ride.

Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet  touched a clutch pedal.  This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.
 
2013-02-14 07:22:24 PM  
I went to the university hospital once, and there was construction so I left my five-speed Civic with the valet. When I came out two hours later, it was sitting where I'd left it, because none of the kids working at the valet station knew how to drive a stick. I still had to pay to get my keys back, but I did not tip.
 
2013-02-14 07:23:24 PM  
I know a guy with a Maserati.  With an automatic transmission.

/makes me weep every time I see it
//still fun as hell to drive
 
2013-02-14 07:24:47 PM  

Lawnchair: So, exactly how is one supposed to learn?



Your parents [who are/should be responsible for all things automotive] hated you, clearly. It's a sad commentary, really.
 
2013-02-14 07:26:05 PM  

Need a Dispenser Here: Kraftwerk Orange: peewinkle: Deathray187: Umm, most corvettes are autos.

About one-third produced are auto. I think the new ones have paddle shifters, I didn't get a good look at the one at the Detroit Auto Show this year.

[cdn.slashgear.com image 850x566]

Damn that is ugly. I realize the car is built primarily for the driver and not the passenger, but it looks like the designers forgot they were making a two seater and just tacked the second seat on.


Why would the passenger in a Corvette care what the seat looks like? Her head is supposed to be in the driver's lap.
 
2013-02-14 07:26:07 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Well... You don't "need" a clutch. Its really really really nice to have one but you can power shift without it. Starting from a dead stop kind of sucks, but it's doable.  I drove 300 miles in my old beetle with no clutch - she wasn't very happy with me after though. I battled through it, but it wasn't pretty.
I know a guy that never used it and he could just slip it into gear no problem. He just "felt" it somehow.


I have experienced this in the past. The thrall bearing in my geo metro went out when I was in Milwaukee. I had to drive it home from deep in the city with no way to disengage the clutch. Total trip was nearly 200 miles. This is another nice thing about manuals, if something breaks you can usually still get around. My SUV lost 3rd and 4th and I was still able to limp it around.
 
2013-02-14 07:31:22 PM  

loaba: URAPNIS: toby34a:

Well, the new 'Vette is a 7-speed.  So there's that.

Clearly for no reason.

If Group B Rally cars from the 80's (putting out 600+ hp) were happily confined to 5 gears, I have to imagine today's 6 and 7 speed transmissions are largely for marketing purposes.


Gas mileage
 
2013-02-14 07:40:11 PM  
All trannys have sticks.
 
2013-02-14 07:43:29 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.


I used to drive manuals in HS/early college (VW Bug, Honda Civic), and then years later I drove a creaky U-Haul truck that was manual*
Can't say I miss it, although if I had a decent, well-powered vehicle, I might hold a different opinion...

* that was 22 years ago, I doubt if U-Haul has anything manual in their fleet anymore...

/ manuals are OK for driving in the countryside
// they suck a** if you have to drive in a hilly, heavily urbanized area, IMHO.
 
2013-02-14 07:46:00 PM  

Lawnchair: rustypouch: If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't be on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.

So, exactly how is one supposed to learn?  I've asked about 20 people (basically everyone I've ever known with a manual car since I was 16).  It always goes the same way.  First, they look at you like you asked if their sister would do outcalls.  Then, usually, they feel a little bad about it, but stammer for a minute and say "mutter mutter, my clutch is umm..., mutter".  Okay, there is also the jerk who makes fun of you endlessly for not knowing how, but also refuses to let you try on his ride.

Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet  touched a clutch pedal.  This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.


Like everyone else. You buy a car with a manual. Have a buddy get you and it somewhere safe. You grind the hell out of your own clutch for a while. You learn to love it.
 
2013-02-14 07:46:13 PM  

URAPNIS: toby34a: loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.

Well, the new 'Vette is a 7-speed.  So there's that.

Clearly for no reason.


The new BMW 3 series has an 8 speed.  But it's an automatic, so don't buy one.
 
2013-02-14 07:46:37 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: Popcorn Johnny: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: I can drive a stick with a cup of coffee in my hand.

You're one of those people that eats a bowl of cereal while driving, aren't you?

No. I'm just saying that I can. It's not very hard to drive a manual. I'm sorry you're handicapped by not being able too. It's a limitation that I'm glad I don't have. I can drive anything and you can't. Not to be snarky but it's the truth.


Well if I was a car thief or on the run from the mob, your useless talent might come in handy. As it stands, I get around just fine without being as skilled as you.
 
2013-02-14 07:50:43 PM  
Soon after the failed carjacking, the victim's credit card was used at a McDonald's

You probably could have at least sprung for Chipotle.  It's not your money either way.
 
2013-02-14 07:54:01 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Soon after the failed carjacking, the victim's credit card was used at a McDonald's

You probably could have at least sprung for Chipotle.  It's not your money either way.


FTA: Surveillance video inside the restaurant showed Sayles at the register, placing an order at about 12:15 a.m. Jan. 28.

Only thing open, I guess.
 
2013-02-14 07:58:11 PM  
I'm amazed by the people who are somehow proud of their ignorance and incompetence.

/I know, I know, Welcome to Fark.
 
2013-02-14 08:01:33 PM  
Bought the brat a Sonoma 5-spd before he turned 16. 2-seater, so limited room for friends; stick shift to drastically limit friends who would drive it. In a sophomore class of 300 he was one of the few with a manual.

And, years from now, I hope to spoil my granddaughter with something similar.
 
2013-02-14 08:04:01 PM  
I had an old Mustang with a four-speed. I was driving down 405 late one night and thing made a loud noise and the shifter flew forward. I was able to get it into third, but couldn't actuate the clutch. Limped back and next day, found the pilot bearing was gone, pilot shaft shifted and the case was cracked.

The thing didn't have a neutral or clutch safety switch, so I turned it off at redlights when I hit the surface streets and used the starter to get it going. It wouldn't go into neutral either. Good times, made it back even if barely.

I had a car with an automatic that failed. There was no driving it until I replaced that transmission.
 
2013-02-14 08:23:24 PM  

Lawnchair: rustypouch: If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't be on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.

So, exactly how is one supposed to learn?  I've asked about 20 people (basically everyone I've ever known with a manual car since I was 16).  It always goes the same way.  First, they look at you like you asked if their sister would do outcalls.  Then, usually, they feel a little bad about it, but stammer for a minute and say "mutter mutter, my clutch is umm..., mutter".  Okay, there is also the jerk who makes fun of you endlessly for not knowing how, but also refuses to let you try on his ride.

Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet  touched a clutch pedal.  This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.


That's unfortunate.  I have no problem teaching my cousin and my nephew on my car, and my younger brother was fortunate enough to be learning to drive when a local driving school offered the option of doing your initial driver training on a manual (would have been.. around 2000?)

Your best bet, if you are interested, is to pick up a cheapass second hand car.  It doesn't need to be any good, just functional for long enough that you don't have to think about the motions anymore while you're driving.  I would also recommend learning about how the clutch and transmission actually function, so you have a better idea of what's physically happening when you work the controls.
 
2013-02-14 08:24:29 PM  

bingethinker: I'm amazed by the people who are somehow proud of their ignorance and incompetence.


I'm amazed at people bragging about useless skills.
 
2013-02-14 08:25:14 PM  
I heard a longer story on the radio where the owner was forced, several times, to explain to them how to start and drive the stick, and they failed several times and then finally gave up.
 
2013-02-14 08:27:53 PM  

rustypouch: If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't try to carjack a Corvettebe on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.


if it's an automatic you're not driving, you're just steering
 
2013-02-14 08:31:44 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: bingethinker: I'm amazed by the people who are somehow proud of their ignorance and incompetence.

I'm amazed at people bragging about useless skills.


Heel-Toeing is not a useless skill.
 
2013-02-14 08:33:29 PM  

ski9600: URAPNIS: toby34a: loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.

Well, the new 'Vette is a 7-speed.  So there's that.

Clearly for no reason.

The new BMW 3 series has an 8 speed.  But it's an automatic, so don't buy one.


Porsche 911 has a 7-speed manual with an actual shifter
 
2013-02-14 08:39:04 PM  

DerficusRex: I would also recommend learning about how the clutch and transmission actually function, so you have a better idea of what's physically happening when you work the controls.


The 'learning about' part is easy.  "How to drive a stick" is the first Youtube video everyone posts, and there are hundreds of them with diagrams and cutaway real transmissions and whatnot.  Sadly, the sub-$2000 beater also seems to largely be a thing of the past, at least in my neck of the woods.  People want $1500 for non-moving heaps.
 
2013-02-14 08:43:38 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: bingethinker: I'm amazed by the people who are somehow proud of their ignorance and incompetence.

I'm amazed at people bragging about useless skills.


I wouldn't call it useless. Some jobs (eg. valet parking), require it.
 
2013-02-14 08:46:57 PM  
Kid's these days!
 
2013-02-14 08:49:07 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Soon after the failed carjacking, the victim's credit card was used at a McDonald's

You probably could have at least sprung for Chipotle.  It's not your money either way.


Driving the Corvette to Chipotle was plan A. Walking to McDonald's when the stick shift issue came up was plan B.
 
2013-02-14 08:50:49 PM  
I drive a race car... a big fast one, with a six speed box, ignition shift interrupt, and slipper clutch.  On the track, yeah, a manual is a hoot and I wouldn't have anything else.  There is nothing like being 110% hard on the brakes diving into a corner while pinging down through the gearbox with flawless revmatching and clutchwork.

On the street... Nearly every car/truck I've owned has been auto.  Driving on public roads is just getting from point A to B, it's boring, and I dislike it.  I'd rather do it with as little effort required from me as possible.

Hell, once I get in my pickup my left foot never moves... And I'm just fine with that.
 
2013-02-14 08:55:01 PM  

kelmeister: I went to the university hospital once, and there was construction so I left my five-speed Civic with the valet. When I came out two hours later, it was sitting where I'd left it, because none of the kids working at the valet station knew how to drive a stick. I still had to pay to get my keys back, but I did not tip.


If you really want to confuse a valet - try giving them a column-shift manual
 
2013-02-14 08:58:42 PM  
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2013-02-14 09:16:58 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: I wouldn't call it useless. Some jobs (eg. valet parking), require it.


Well there goes my dream. Driving a stick is useless for people who have no intention of driving a stick. I buy cars with autos and if I ever had a use for a loaner or rental, it would be an auto. Unless I ever find myself in a situation where I need to steal a car, being able to drive a stick is a useless skill for me. Besides, I'm pretty sure I could figure it out in about 10 minutes.
 
2013-02-14 09:19:06 PM  
Fond memories of teaching my children to drive a stick.

/like riding a bike, only without the douchiness
 
2013-02-14 09:22:37 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Well there goes my dream.


legacy-cdn.smosh.com

^^^Not Popcorn Johnny

 
2013-02-14 09:30:44 PM  
One of my regrets is not taking a friend up on his offer to teach me to drive a stickshift in his '69 'vette when I was a teen. I was afraid (stupid). I later learned to destroy a clutch in a Ford Fiesta from my sister instead :( I can drive one now.

Another regret is not somehow finding the cash to buy that cherry '70 Challenger convertible from the same guy for $3500. I mourn that to this day.
 
2013-02-14 09:33:09 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: loaba: ggecko: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

Then I guess you wouldn't drive a Vette since it is a 6 speed.....

6-spd transformer is a joke. 5 was fine. No, really, it was.

/my Outback is a 6 and I just don't even get it. The difference between 5th and 6th isminuscule.

If you never drive over 50 I guess. I love my 6 speed Jetta GLI and the difference is quite noticeable. Cuts the RPM's considerably at higher speeds.


You do realize that RPM is an acronym, the first word of which is "revolutions"? Hence, RPM is already plural. And for chrissakes find out what an apostrophe actually does.

/hope you are under 25
///dammit, car guys should know what the hell RPM means
 
2013-02-14 09:40:20 PM  

Lawnchair: Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet  touched a clutch pedal.  This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.


Buy a $500 used up manual shift car, learn.
 
2013-02-14 09:49:01 PM  

LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.


What if it's a six speed?
 
2013-02-14 10:10:12 PM  

parahaps: Lawnchair: rustypouch: If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't be on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.

So, exactly how is one supposed to learn?  I've asked about 20 people (basically everyone I've ever known with a manual car since I was 16).  It always goes the same way.  First, they look at you like you asked if their sister would do outcalls.  Then, usually, they feel a little bad about it, but stammer for a minute and say "mutter mutter, my clutch is umm..., mutter".  Okay, there is also the jerk who makes fun of you endlessly for not knowing how, but also refuses to let you try on his ride.

Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet  touched a clutch pedal.  This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.

Like everyone else. You buy a car with a manual. Have a buddy get you and it somewhere safe. You grind the hell out of your own clutch for a while. You learn to love it.


That's a good idea. Or what I did which was steal borrow my brother's car when I was a kid and taught myself.

Of course the final step is posting on the internet that you're so damn special being able to do something a 12 year old girl can do. These threads are always hilarious.
 
2013-02-14 10:18:05 PM  
Yes, a followup to the story a week or so back.

Yes, they make Corvettes in automatics, but they don't make the Corvette Z06 (which this is) in auto, only manual.
 
2013-02-14 10:26:13 PM  
transmissions rated from best performance to worst performance:
double-clutch
electronically shifted manual
sequential shift manual
h-pattern manual
automatic

transmissions rated from most fun to least fun
h-pattern manual
sequential shift manual
double-clutch
electronically shifted manual
automatic

performance is governed by the speed at which the shifts are accomplished and the efficiency of the power transfer (clutches are better than torque converters)

fun is governed by the degree of driver involvement first, and performance second.
 
2013-02-14 10:42:47 PM  
I've got a Superstock Dodge that when the pedal's to the floor, hear the dual quads drink...

/   (in real life the Dodge smokes the fuelie)
 
2013-02-14 10:47:15 PM  

Lawnchair: Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet touched a clutch pedal. This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.


You don't TELL the farking car salesman you can't drive stick! You watch a few youtube videos so you understand the concept and won't gnash dogteeth, then you just go to a lot, test drive a manual car and stall your way around the block until you get it.

/That salesman was not to thrilled with me.
//I did end up buying the car though, so it was worth the whiplash he got I suppose.
 
2013-02-14 10:47:37 PM  

theMagni: Popcorn Johnny: I'm 44 and have never driven a stick, that includes spending 8 years in the military when a good portion of their vehicles were manuals. I like switching radio stations when I drive, not gears.

My minivan has a stick shift and steering wheel radio controls.


I'm 44 and am still serving after nearly 24 years. The only sticks I remember were the deuce-and-a-halfs -- CUCV, HMMWV, 5-ton were all auto.
 
2013-02-14 10:52:07 PM  
In 'merica, it's hard to get any good car with a manual transmission. Not so in Europe, where it is quite the opposite.

I would venture to say there are few people on fark (if any at all) that can say they have driven a 6-speed BMW at over 140 mph on a German autobahn. It's quite fun.
 
2013-02-14 11:14:47 PM  

prekrasno: In 'merica, it's hard to get any good car with a manual transmission. Not so in Europe, where it is quite the opposite.

I would venture to say there are few people on fark (if any at all) that can say they have driven a 6-speed BMW at over 140 mph on a German autobahn. It's quite fun.


No but I've done 130 on an American Highway.

/Drag limited
//Top speed IS fun!
 
2013-02-14 11:18:25 PM  
Girion47: Automatics are the AOL of the automotive world.

That's beautiful... *sniff, sob*

/I would like to buy that bumper sticker very much.
 
2013-02-14 11:25:16 PM  

fluffy2097: prekrasno: In 'merica, it's hard to get any good car with a manual transmission. Not so in Europe, where it is quite the opposite.

I would venture to say there are few people on fark (if any at all) that can say they have driven a 6-speed BMW at over 140 mph on a German autobahn. It's quite fun.

No but I've done 130 on an American Highway.

/Drag limited
//Top speed IS fun!


It's funner when you know you're not in danger of being arrested, people get out of your way on purpose, and even at that speed, you get passed by a local in a Porsche. True story: I once was driving on a Sunday morning from Frankfurt to Bavaria in a rented BMW at 245 kph and got passed by a Porsche. Almost made me cry.
 
2013-02-14 11:27:14 PM  

The_Original_Roxtar: transmissions rated from best performance to worst performance:
double-clutch
electronically shifted manual
sequential shift manual
h-pattern manual
automatic

transmissions rated from most fun to least fun
h-pattern manual
sequential shift manual
double-clutch
electronically shifted manual
automatic

performance is governed by the speed at which the shifts are accomplished and the efficiency of the power transfer (clutches are better than torque converters)

fun is governed by the degree of driver involvement first, and performance second.



Clear, succinct, and as good an explanation as I've seen as to why all my cars have had clutch pedals.  Cheers.
 
2013-02-14 11:28:06 PM  
prekrasno:

It's funner when you know you're not in danger of being arrested, people get out of your way on purpose, and even at that speed, you get passed by a local in a Porsche. True story: I once was driving on a Sunday morning from Frankfurt to Bavaria in a rented BMW at 245 kph and got passed by a Porsche. Almost made me cry.

Heheheheheheh.  I must go to Germany sometime.
 
2013-02-14 11:31:33 PM  

prekrasno: It's funner when you know you're not in danger of being arrested, people get out of your way on purpose, and even at that speed, you get passed by a local in a Porsche. True story: I once was driving on a Sunday morning from Frankfurt to Bavaria in a rented BMW at 245 kph and got passed by a Porsche. Almost made me cry.


Well there pretty much wasn't anyone in sight all the way to the horizon in either way. People don't care when you speed in the middle of the Nevada Desert.

Wouldn't mind driving the autobahn though. Don't get me wrong.

/Drivers around here terrify me.
 
2013-02-14 11:38:13 PM  

prekrasno: In 'merica, it's hard to get any good car with a manual transmission. Not so in Europe, where it is quite the opposite.

I would venture to say there are few people on fark (if any at all) that can say they have driven a 6-speed BMW at over 140 mph on a German autobahn. It's quite fun.


when I was in Germany my rental car was a 5-speed. no problem for me since my everyday car is a 5-speed
/wife can't drive a stick so she can't "borrow" it
 
2013-02-14 11:40:56 PM  
It takes about 30 min to teach a 14 year old girl how to operate a vehicle with a standard transmission (sync or not)  If you cant drive one and have a drivers license that claims that you are male, you need to pack up your skinny jeans, hair gel, hot topic accessories and move your useless ass to Europe where you can be transported to the techno club of your choice without ever having to get behind the wheel of an automobile.
 
2013-02-14 11:44:54 PM  

WordyGrrl: Girion47: Automatics are the AOL of the automotive world.

That's beautiful... *sniff, sob*

/I would like to buy that bumper sticker very much.


If by that you mean that manual transmissions (i.e. sticks) are antiquated and relatively slow and inefficient, then yes, you are correct.

/*ducks*
//loved my '76 280Z and '92 MX-3 V6 manuals
///but come on, standard shift is old tech nowadays...though it is more fun
 
2013-02-14 11:49:56 PM  

prekrasno: I'm 44 and am still serving after nearly 24 years. The only sticks I remember were the deuce-and-a-halfs


Back in 1986 when I went in, all we had were deuce-and-a-halfs. The 5 tons weren't in wide use until the early 90's. Even then there were still plenty of deuces left.
 
2013-02-14 11:54:10 PM  

thisisarepeat: It takes about 30 min to teach a 14 year old girl how to operate a vehicle with a standard transmission (sync or not)  If you cant drive one and have a drivers license that claims that you are male, you need to pack up your skinny jeans, hair gel, hot topic accessories and move your useless ass to Europe where you can be transported to the techno club of your choice without ever having to get behind the wheel of an automobile.


I don't know a male who can't drive a manual, only know a few women who can
/1 is German so she doesn't count ;-)
//she has a sweet 928S 5-speed
 
2013-02-14 11:58:12 PM  

thisisarepeat: It takes about 30 min to teach a 14 year old girl how to operate a vehicle with a standard transmission (sync or not)  If you cant drive one and have a drivers license that claims that you are male, you need to pack up your skinny jeans, hair gel, hot topic accessories and move your useless ass to Europe where you can be transported to the techno club of your choice without ever having to get behind the wheel of an automobile.


Most 14 year old guys can't take the 90 minutes away from their games to learn how to drive a manual. And, by the way, while Europe does have better public transport than we do, it also has a fark of a lot more manual transmissions than we do. Try to rent an auto there.  I had fun bashing a little 5-speed through the mountains of Crete not too long ago. When I brought it back to town, parked, and called the rental company to arrange a meeting to return it...I was told to just leave it parked on the street and they'd come pick it up. Awesome. But I seem to be diverting you from Fox News, so I'll stop now.
 
2013-02-15 12:07:12 AM  

Lawnchair: rustypouch: If you don't know how to drive a stick shift, you probably shouldn't be on the road.

If you can't drive a manual, your driving ability is suspect, at best.

So, exactly how is one supposed to learn?  I've asked about 20 people (basically everyone I've ever known with a manual car since I was 16).  It always goes the same way.  First, they look at you like you asked if their sister would do outcalls.  Then, usually, they feel a little bad about it, but stammer for a minute and say "mutter mutter, my clutch is umm..., mutter".  Okay, there is also the jerk who makes fun of you endlessly for not knowing how, but also refuses to let you try on his ride.

Needless to say, I'm in my 30s, and have not yet  touched a clutch pedal.  This is with asking 20 different people, looking for a manual rental (don't exist), checking driving schools (out of 10, one could offer stick lessons... if I provide the car), asking at used car lots, etc.


fark.....seriously, come to Louisville KY, you can stay with me, I'll teach you how to drive stick, in my baby, my WRX.  I'll teach you how to accelerate quickly, how to downshift, all of that shiat.  You've asked on every single manual vs auto thread for 4 years now, I'm tired of seeing you not knowing how, I want to teach you.
 
2013-02-15 12:13:59 AM  
Seriously Lawnchair EIP, I'll teach you how to drive stick.
 
2013-02-15 03:02:49 AM  
The concept is simple enough.  You have an engine turning a shaft, and you have wheels that turn when torque is applied to them,  between them is a transmission .  In the transmission there are two discs being held together (face to face) by spring pressure, when you push the clutch pedal in, it separates the discs allowing the engine side disc to spin freely, when you release the clutch pedal the two discs mash together causing both discs to spin together as one.  Thus completing the circuit between your engine and your tires.  The rate at which you release the clutch determines how rapidly the torque is applied to your tires.

Apply this at a car dealership.  You aren't likely to do much more damage than a broken engine mount, but it doesn't matter, because you arent liable for cars that break down during a test drive.  Don't warn them, you don't have to, no state that I know of certifies ones ability to operate a manual transmission, just fark em.  After all, it is a car dealer, he would fine with your children starving as long as he can fark over enough rubes to be able to afford to snort meth out of a whores asshole once or twice before his next shift.
 
2013-02-15 03:20:23 AM  

LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.


I drive a manual,but an auto for the office commute would honestly be much better
 
2013-02-15 04:03:56 AM  

zombat: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

I drive a manual,but an auto for the office commute would honestly be much better


zombat: LeroyBourne: I learned how to drive a manual from the start, and haven't owned anything other than that, it's a deal breaker if it's not a 5 spd.

I drive a manual,but an auto for the office commute would honestly be much better


There isn't much left to recommend them in a practical personal vehicle anymore.  That said, a go cart like an old Datsun 280Z wouldn't be as much fun with an automatic.
 
2013-02-15 09:08:47 AM  
It's thread is making me lol.

The new Corvette is an 8 speed, not a 7 speed.  Reverse is a gear.
They made that many for a reason, not just to sell a car to gadget freaks.  Comparing anything new to rally cars from 30 years ago is stupid.  It's called evolution.

If you never learned to drive a stick, you're missing out on one of the greatest experiences that you can have second only to riding a motorcycle.  You really should jump on the opportunity before New York tries to ban scary assault manual transmissions.
The only reasons anyone has ever given me to not at least know how to drive a stick are either you have a physical limitation, or spend a lot of time stacked up in traffic.  If neither of those apply, you're really missing out on what driving is all about.  Our mom taught us to drive stick before our legs were long enough to reach the clutch.
 
2013-02-15 09:12:22 AM  

computerguyUT: It's thread is making me lol.

The new Corvette is an 8 speed, not a 7 speed.  Reverse is a gear.
They made that many for a reason, not just to sell a car to gadget freaks.  Comparing anything new to rally cars from 30 years ago is stupid.  It's called evolution.

If you never learned to drive a stick, you're missing out on one of the greatest experiences that you can have second only to riding a motorcycle.  You really should jump on the opportunity before New York tries to ban scary assault manual transmissions.
The only reasons anyone has ever given me to not at least know how to drive a stick are either you have a physical limitation, or spend a lot of time stacked up in traffic.  If neither of those apply, you're really missing out on what driving is all about.  Our mom taught us to drive stick before our legs were long enough to reach the clutch.


I'd rather have my turbo charged stick in traffic than a NA manual any day.  Allows me to take advantage of gaps.
 
2013-02-15 09:55:06 AM  

Girion47: computerguyUT: It's thread is making me lol.

The new Corvette is an 8 speed, not a 7 speed.  Reverse is a gear.
They made that many for a reason, not just to sell a car to gadget freaks.  Comparing anything new to rally cars from 30 years ago is stupid.  It's called evolution.

If you never learned to drive a stick, you're missing out on one of the greatest experiences that you can have second only to riding a motorcycle.  You really should jump on the opportunity before New York tries to ban scary assault manual transmissions.
The only reasons anyone has ever given me to not at least know how to drive a stick are either you have a physical limitation, or spend a lot of time stacked up in traffic.  If neither of those apply, you're really missing out on what driving is all about.  Our mom taught us to drive stick before our legs were long enough to reach the clutch.

I'd rather have my turbo charged stick in traffic than a NA manual any day.  Allows me to take advantage of gaps.



I agree, both of my vehicles now are stick, but I don't get hung up in Kali, or turnpike traffic....
I loves me the manual transformer's you just feel so much more connected to the vehicle.
I put in a short throw shifter in the Camaro over Thanksgiving and even the wife thinks it's awesome (wife drives a mean stick too  :-)  )...changes the feel of driving completely.
I have owned autos and dislike them.  I had a 2010 Jetta TDI sportwagen with the DSG (dual shift gearbox) transformer, most advanced transmission in the world, and it was boring as hell.
Manuals are extremely durable, easier and cheaper to work on, give you more control when you know how to use them, and just plain more fun to drive.
I also have a Jeep Wrangler that we go 4 wheeling in.  Same argument, COMPLETELY different application.  Everyone claims that auto is so much better for wheeling.
With the right gearing, it's a completely moot point.

The Man pedal....how does it work??

/still haven't taught my current batch of teenagers to drive stick, based on my experience with my oldest daughter, I don't want the little bastards taking the camaro for a joyride when I'm not home...
 
2013-02-15 10:18:51 AM  

DerficusRex: Clear, succinct, and as good an explanation as I've seen as to why all my cars have had clutch pedals.  Cheers.


Thanks for the month of total fark. You are a gentleman and a scholar.
 
2013-02-15 10:35:15 AM  

computerguyUT: Girion47: computerguyUT: It's thread is making me lol.

The new Corvette is an 8 speed, not a 7 speed.  Reverse is a gear.
They made that many for a reason, not just to sell a car to gadget freaks.  Comparing anything new to rally cars from 30 years ago is stupid.  It's called evolution.

If you never learned to drive a stick, you're missing out on one of the greatest experiences that you can have second only to riding a motorcycle.  You really should jump on the opportunity before New York tries to ban scary assault manual transmissions.
The only reasons anyone has ever given me to not at least know how to drive a stick are either you have a physical limitation, or spend a lot of time stacked up in traffic.  If neither of those apply, you're really missing out on what driving is all about.  Our mom taught us to drive stick before our legs were long enough to reach the clutch.

I'd rather have my turbo charged stick in traffic than a NA manual any day.  Allows me to take advantage of gaps.


I agree, both of my vehicles now are stick, but I don't get hung up in Kali, or turnpike traffic....
I loves me the manual transformer's you just feel so much more connected to the vehicle.
I put in a short throw shifter in the Camaro over Thanksgiving and even the wife thinks it's awesome (wife drives a mean stick too  :-)  )...changes the feel of driving completely.
I have owned autos and dislike them.  I had a 2010 Jetta TDI sportwagen with the DSG (dual shift gearbox) transformer, most advanced transmission in the world, and it was boring as hell.
Manuals are extremely durable, easier and cheaper to work on, give you more control when you know how to use them, and just plain more fun to drive.
I also have a Jeep Wrangler that we go 4 wheeling in.  Same argument, COMPLETELY different application.  Everyone claims that auto is so much better for wheeling.
With the right gearing, it's a completely moot point.

The Man pedal....how does it work??

/still haven't taught my current batch of ...


I have a STS in my WRX right now, as soon as I can get some free time on a weekend I'm installing kartboy STS bushings as well.    We're getting another WRX in April and I already have a full Kartboy STS kit waiting to go in along with all the other stuff the wife wanted on her car.
 
2013-02-15 11:10:34 AM  

seelorq: WordyGrrl: Girion47: Automatics are the AOL of the automotive world.

That's beautiful... *sniff, sob*

/I would like to buy that bumper sticker very much.

If by that you mean that manual transmissions (i.e. sticks) are antiquated and relatively slow and inefficient, then yes, you are correct.

/*ducks*
//loved my '76 280Z and '92 MX-3 V6 manuals
///but come on, standard shift is old tech nowadays...though it is more fun


Slow? You mean slow like, "when I want to pass someone on the highway, I downshift and get a sudden burst of horsepower and speed that allows me to pass -- instead of pressing on the automatic's gas pedal and waiting for the car to respond." And inefficient like "manual transmissions get slightly better gas mileage than automatics."  Yeah, yeah. I understand the appeal of not having to do much besides steer with an automatic, but I genuinely enjoy driving and that includes operating the controls. When self-driving cars come out, I will still prefer piloting my own vehicle, driving a stick.
 
2013-02-15 11:15:43 AM  

WordyGrrl: seelorq: WordyGrrl: Girion47: Automatics are the AOL of the automotive world.

That's beautiful... *sniff, sob*

/I would like to buy that bumper sticker very much.

If by that you mean that manual transmissions (i.e. sticks) are antiquated and relatively slow and inefficient, then yes, you are correct.

/*ducks*
//loved my '76 280Z and '92 MX-3 V6 manuals
///but come on, standard shift is old tech nowadays...though it is more fun

Slow? You mean slow like, "when I want to pass someone on the highway, I downshift and get a sudden burst of horsepower and speed that allows me to pass -- instead of pressing on the automatic's gas pedal and waiting for the car to respond." And inefficient like "manual transmissions get slightly better gas mileage than automatics."  Yeah, yeah. I understand the appeal of not having to do much besides steer with an automatic, but I genuinely enjoy driving and that includes operating the controls. When self-driving cars come out, I will still prefer piloting my own vehicle, driving a stick.


I less than 3 you.


And your boobies are fantastic.
 
2013-02-15 12:43:52 PM  
Way late to the thread, but at the tender age of 43 I learned to drive stick... last fall.  Just never needed to before that and tended to kill them at every stop sign the few times I tried prior.  It isn't magic.

/'86 Spider.  Whee!
 
2013-02-15 01:02:30 PM  

WordyGrrl: seelorq: WordyGrrl: Girion47: Automatics are the AOL of the automotive world.

That's beautiful... *sniff, sob*

/I would like to buy that bumper sticker very much.

If by that you mean that manual transmissions (i.e. sticks) are antiquated and relatively slow and inefficient, then yes, you are correct.

/*ducks*
//loved my '76 280Z and '92 MX-3 V6 manuals
///but come on, standard shift is old tech nowadays...though it is more fun

Slow? You mean slow like, "when I want to pass someone on the highway, I downshift and get a sudden burst of horsepower and speed that allows me to pass -- instead of pressing on the automatic's gas pedal and waiting for the car to respond." And inefficient like "manual transmissions get slightly better gas mileage than automatics."  Yeah, yeah. I understand the appeal of not having to do much besides steer with an automatic, but I genuinely enjoy driving and that includes operating the controls. When self-driving cars come out, I will still prefer piloting my own vehicle, driving a stick.


"Nowadays" is the word I used that you seem to have overlooked. There are reasons why Ferraris and F1 cars don't have sticks anymore.
 
2013-02-15 02:29:06 PM  

seelorq: Ferraris


Yes and no.
All ferrari's come in a 6 speed manual, or a paddle shifter(semi-automatic). Few Ferrari's are automatic: Ferrari 400i(built back in the 70's-80's which has a 3 speed auto box) and the other was the ferrari 456 GTA in 1997.

Lamborghini's also come in 6 speed manuals, or paddle shifter (e-gear).

Kobe Bryant's wife Vanessa is the only person in the world to own a automatic Murciélago.
 
2013-02-15 02:32:21 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: seelorq: Ferraris

Yes and no.
All ferrari's come in a 6 speed manual, or a paddle shifter(semi-automatic). Few Ferrari's are automatic: Ferrari 400i(built back in the 70's-80's which has a 3 speed auto box) and the other was the ferrari 456 GTA in 1997.

Lamborghini's also come in 6 speed manuals, or paddle shifter (e-gear).

Kobe Bryant's wife Vanessa is the only person in the world to own a automatic Murciélago.


NO that is old. Sorry I'm wrong. I guess Ferrari's have changed. They don't offer one at all I guess. (No shiat??)
 
2013-02-15 03:06:07 PM  

purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: purple kool-aid and a jigger of formaldehyde: seelorq: Ferraris

Yes and no.
All ferrari's come in a 6 speed manual, or a paddle shifter(semi-automatic). Few Ferrari's are automatic: Ferrari 400i(built back in the 70's-80's which has a 3 speed auto box) and the other was the ferrari 456 GTA in 1997.

Lamborghini's also come in 6 speed manuals, or paddle shifter (e-gear).

Kobe Bryant's wife Vanessa is the only person in the world to own a automatic Murciélago.

NO that is old. Sorry I'm wrong. I guess Ferrari's have changed. They don't offer one at all I guess. (No shiat??)


I merely said they didn't have sticks. Many in this thread would consider everything without a clutch pedal/stick to be equally automatic and therefore equally lame. Despite the fact that modern sequential 'boxes kick the shiat out of stick-type manuals, performance-wise. Think someone can manually shift faster than a computer does it?  Standard shifting may be more "fun" and "involved"--and I prefer driving that way-- but it's becoming something like...nostalgia. It's outdated technology now, and when the current generation of finger-twiddly gamers comes of age to buy new cars, sticks will become irrelevant, at least in the new car market. The collector market, however, will always exist. Wish I had enough cash for an Alfa Montreal...
 
2013-02-15 09:43:19 PM  
If you don't know how to drive a stick shift you should turn in your man card.  You also probably shouldn't even be on the road.
 
2013-02-15 10:01:10 PM  
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