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(Fox 4 KC)   We called in the location of wanted killer Christopher Dorner, now how about that reward money? Yeah, about that reward money   (fox4kc.com) divider line 66
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2013-02-14 11:03:57 AM  
7 votes:
Wow.  You know...I'm starting to really appreciate the Dorner sympathizers.  I can't condone what he did, but damn, the LAPD really seems to be just a large, corrupt, gang.
2013-02-14 11:01:45 AM  
6 votes:
What absolute sacks of shiat. Can you guys figure out why people are so reluctant to help you, and frequently root against you? No?
2013-02-14 11:04:05 AM  
5 votes:
So, a decision to take no prisoners saves the city $1 million?  Do you think the LAPD brass knew this and conveyed it to the field?  Or, after having a number of officers gunned down, were the police there just too hot to ever expect him to be brought in alive, so putting "capture and conviction" made an award extremely unlikely.
2013-02-14 11:12:00 AM  
4 votes:
The LAPD makes what Dorner did look more and more justifiable every minute of the day.
2013-02-14 10:24:56 AM  
4 votes:
Oh yeah, no one saw that coming
2013-02-14 05:07:23 PM  
3 votes:
The police never had any intention to capture Dorner.  They were intent on a revenge killing.
2013-02-14 12:28:57 PM  
3 votes:

Krieghund: I don't know why I'm bothering, but here goes:

LAPD didn't burn the cabin down. Big Bear isn't even in Los Angeles County. If you have a problem with how the standoff at the cabin was resolved, talk to the San Bernadino Sheriff's Department.

Dorner killed no LAPD officers. Zero. He assassinated two civilians, killed a cop from a different city, and killed a game warden.

If you hate LAPD, whatever. But get your facts right.


There is this long process called due process before you can say that.
Get your facts right.
He has not/will not be convicted of killing any of them.
2013-02-14 11:05:11 AM  
3 votes:
I think the people trying to collect the reward could use the 2 situations where the cops shot at 2 vehicles without trying to confrim they were Dorners vehicle or that Dorner was even in them as proof that the police did not intend on capturing Dorner and convicting him.
2013-02-14 10:59:55 AM  
3 votes:
Lying weasels right to the end.
2013-02-14 10:52:22 AM  
3 votes:
" . . . since he was presumably killed in Tuesday night's fire it would be nearly impossible to convict him."

So you're saying there's a chance.
2013-02-14 06:03:37 PM  
2 votes:

Lexx: Wow. You know...I'm starting to really appreciate the Dorner sympathizers. I can't condone what he did, but damn, the LAPD really seems to be just a large, corrupt, gang.


There are four gangs operating in LA The Bloods. The Crips. LAPD and the LA Sheriff's Department.
2013-02-14 02:05:41 PM  
2 votes:
It's not just the LAPD.  A few years ago a cop was shot dead in Paterson, NJ after he interrupted an armed robbery at a fried chicken place.   Cops offered a $10K reward for info about the shooter.  Shooter's homeboy immediately dropped a dime on him.  Cops picked up the shooter soon after.   The snitch......helpful citizen showed up at police HQ looking for his $10K.  Cops ran the informant's DL and found he had warrants for unpaid traffic fines and through him in jail.
2013-02-14 01:15:44 PM  
2 votes:
Your loyalty and devotion to the empire are your rewards, citizen.
2013-02-14 12:48:56 PM  
2 votes:

Xai: I hope this teaches people a lesson: The LAPD cannot be trusted.


This is what I find so awkward.

People are accusing Dorner of being a murderer based on accusations made largely by the LAPD (among others).
2013-02-14 12:31:45 PM  
2 votes:
Never pays to be a snich.
2013-02-14 12:31:13 PM  
2 votes:

Krieghund: The other point everyone is forgetting is it isn't LAPD's money. It's donations.

I don't know how it works, but I bet the donors had lawyers make sure the money goes back to them if the reward isn't claimed.
So LAPD has zero incentive to stiff anyone.


You seriously believe that there were "donations"? There was never any reward money because they never intended to pay it out in the first place.
2013-02-14 12:10:43 PM  
2 votes:
so now it will look like crime will pay

1,000,000 reward for turning someone in or
20 bucks cash from the quilty not to
now i know which one will pay
2013-02-14 12:07:38 PM  
2 votes:
And yet they wonder why no one trusts politicians.....
2013-02-14 12:06:45 PM  
2 votes:

heavymetal: He did accomplish one goal though, he did expose the LAPD and the regional law enforcement as a whole in that area as I will just say not the most professional of operations.


Oh, I'm pretty sure we knew long before this happened.
2013-02-14 12:04:18 PM  
2 votes:

Pick: I wonder who is going to pay for the house the cops burned down, but didn't set fire to, so they didn't really burn it down, but it burned down any way. I am sure the owners insurance company will find a reason not to pay.


Property insurance excludes police action as a standard limitation.
2013-02-14 11:56:04 AM  
2 votes:
So the message here is don't help the LAPD?
2013-02-14 11:55:38 AM  
2 votes:
Good luck catching the next cop killer when everyone knows your group is just a bunch of rampaging psychos AND the reward is BS.
2013-02-14 11:48:07 AM  
2 votes:
When my wife worked in a probation office for a year, she knew the guy who was in charge of handling reward money.  He thought they gave away some money "twice a year", and never the full amount.

Sometimes the money doesn't technically exist--it's like the prize money for a hole-in-one at a golf tournament.  You're putting up an insurance policy, in short.
2013-02-14 11:42:33 AM  
2 votes:

Odd Bird: GORDON: LAPD just keeps improving their image.

Now they are murderers, liars, AND they don't honor their promises.

FTA:  LA's mayor offered the hefty sum for the "capture and conviction" of Dorner.
FTA:  The city council also offered money - $100,000, but also for his capture and conviction.

Neither are the LAPD, so pinning this specific issue directly on the PD would be a bit misguided.


The LADP is just one piece of the problem. And multiple jurisdictions were happy with the Kool Aid. You cannot consistantly provide this kind of "Police and Protect" over decades, after repeated investigations and purges w/o missing the head of the beast in the first place.
2013-02-14 11:39:18 AM  
2 votes:
Next up a suit for breach of contract with triple punitive damages. Good luck finding 12 or even 1 citizen that is going to side with the LAPD. How do they even walk after shooting themselves in the foot so many DAMN times?
2013-02-14 11:32:23 AM  
2 votes:
Weren't they claiming the reward was from "private groups", after people started asking questions about it?
How would *the city* have even been "on the hook" in the first place?
Why would it care to weasel out of the payout one way or the other?

Uunless, you know, they were lying about the reward every single time they talked about it.
2013-02-14 11:31:22 AM  
2 votes:
This is why people hate cops. Well, one of the many reasons.
2013-02-14 11:24:28 AM  
2 votes:
Yo dawg! We heard you liked cop hate.


So we figured out a way to put cop hate in your cop hate.
2013-02-14 11:10:29 AM  
2 votes:
Whitman, Price, and Haddad are basking in the Maui sun as we speak
2013-02-14 11:06:34 AM  
2 votes:
Water is wet.  More at 11.
2013-02-14 11:05:12 AM  
2 votes:
I don't know what to add.  We all saw this coming.
2013-02-14 11:03:00 AM  
2 votes:
Wasn't it always far more likely that he would be killed instead of captured? Should have saved the dime.
2013-02-14 11:01:27 AM  
2 votes:
yeah, that wasn't predicted here at all.
2013-02-14 11:00:39 AM  
2 votes:
LAPD just keeps improving their image.

Now they are murderers, liars, AND they don't honor their promises.
2013-02-14 07:40:14 PM  
1 votes:
NO ONE ever gets reward money.  It's a scam.  They always have loopholes.  I helped catch and convict a 3-striker that should have brought me two rewards.  I couldn't get either reward due to such loopholes and cons.  They strung me along 3 years while waiting for the trial and conviction.

/ scam
2013-02-14 07:09:47 PM  
1 votes:

firefly212: Good luck catching the next cop killer when everyone knows your group is just a bunch of rampaging psychos AND the reward is BS.


Quite frankly, anyone with 1/2 a brain cell who happened to be keeping up with this situation had already assumed that nobody would ever collect the money.  There's no way the police ever planned to pay out and no way they planned to capture or convict Dorner.

Most likely, the folks trying to claim it now knew that as well, but are trying to play this thing out just in case.  I mean it doesn't hurt to try, does it?
2013-02-14 04:29:31 PM  
1 votes:

GORDON: LAPD just keeps improving their image.

Now they are murderers, liars, AND they don't honor their promises.


Now?
2013-02-14 03:48:32 PM  
1 votes:

Snarfangel: GORDON: LAPD just keeps improving their image.

If the two maids are lucky white, the LAPD will give them a new truck.

If they are unlucky brown in any way, it will be after they fill their old truck with bullet holes.


/FTFE
2013-02-14 02:54:21 PM  
1 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: That's just a reporter speculating.  Any statements from the LAPD or City that supports this?Thing is, if they do this "too often," they'll have trouble getting cooperation in the future.


Wait, you meant statements supporting the cops aren't going to pay:

Neiman said it was not clear who, if anyone, might claim the reward if the body is confirmed to be that of Dorner.

But the money shot has been this quote, reported widely raising the question can an Officer be an official source of information regarding the division of the reward, or is it better to wait for the lawyers to parse the doubletalk of spokespersons?

- Officials are still considering how, and if, to distribute the reward. So far, it's looking unlikely.  "There was no capture and no conviction. It's kind of a no-brainer," LAPD Officer Alex Martinez  told CBS News.

And from the CBS news site:

-  Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa's spokesman, Peter Sanders, said Wednesday it's too early in the investigation to determine whether anyone would deserve the award. LAPD Officer Alex Martinez says it's unlikely anyone can claim it because the reward referred to Dorner's capture and conviction.
2013-02-14 02:37:16 PM  
1 votes:
So the moral of the story is "Don't help the LAPD catch cop killers."?
2013-02-14 02:21:22 PM  
1 votes:

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Giltric: I think the people trying to collect the reward could use the 2 situations where the cops shot at 2 vehicles without trying to confrim they were Dorners vehicle or that Dorner was even in them as proof that the police did not intend on capturing Dorner and convicting him.

They don't deserve a dime, because they were greedy.  The LAPD's terms and conditions were right there on the reward offer.If you channel your inner Jane Fonder or Pole-During-Hitler-Invasion and drop a dime on someone being pursued by stormtroopers, don't pitch a biatch when the stormtroopers' antics turn on you.

/it would be a sad commentary if this was the watershed that made the pro-cop crowd turn against the LAPD
//very sad commentary



Citizen: Okay, I turned him in, do I get my reward?
Cop: Don't vurry. You vill get everyting that'z coming to you.
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Cop: You vill get ze reward a traitor deserves.
2013-02-14 01:27:54 PM  
1 votes:
Those cops have NO shame.
2013-02-14 01:03:09 PM  
1 votes:

OscarTamerz: Next up a suit for breach of contract with triple punitive damages. Good luck finding 12 or even 1 citizen that is going to side with the LAPD. How do they even walk after shooting themselves in the foot so many DAMN times?


What breach of contract?  The cops said from the very beginning the tip had to lead to a conviction.

I wonder if someone could set up a graph or a chart of something, to determine what people's break points were in this fiasco:
- the information about the LAPD finding evidence of a beatdown but determining it wasn't enough of a beatdown
- the two old ladies
- the white surfer dude
- the dentist office
- the number of cops treating all 40 cops on the hit list and their immediate families as if they were the First Family and they were the Secret Service
- the twitter reports about the antics at the checkpoints
- the announcement of drones
- the scanner recordings
- the report someone tried to surrender and was pushed back into the house
- the fire all by itself

- MONEY

"I didn't get my 40 pieces of silver, NOW the cops suck"

Man, fk people.
2013-02-14 12:56:32 PM  
1 votes:

BigNumber12: What absolute sacks of shiat. Can you guys figure out why people are so reluctant to help you, and frequently root against you? No?


Oh noes... i was expecting a big payout for helping Massa catch those runaway slaves, why didn't Massa give me an extra handful of acorns?
2013-02-14 12:54:48 PM  
1 votes:
meh, he's dead, LAPD is still a corrupt, lying, bigoted asshat organization.  If you don't think the cops are out to get you for every possible dime they can take from fines and seizures, you're living in a dream world.  The million will be lost to red tape and end up lining someone's pocket, making a very nice retirement, even if they are getting a pension, because as you know, more money is always better than less money.  The guiding principle for the jurisdictions has been thus ever since the drug war turned into a for-profit venture, with the local counties getting to keep half of everything they take.  If you think all the drugs are being burned, I'd love to come visit, because those must be some killer shrooms you are on.
2013-02-14 12:54:41 PM  
1 votes:

Giltric: I think the people trying to collect the reward could use the 2 situations where the cops shot at 2 vehicles without trying to confrim they were Dorners vehicle or that Dorner was even in them as proof that the police did not intend on capturing Dorner and convicting him.


They don't deserve a dime, because they were greedy.  The LAPD's terms and conditions were right there on the reward offer.If you channel your inner Jane Fonder or Pole-During-Hitler-Invasion and drop a dime on someone being pursued by stormtroopers, don't pitch a biatch when the stormtroopers' antics turn on you.

/it would be a sad commentary if this was the watershed that made the pro-cop crowd turn against the LAPD
//very sad commentary
Xai
2013-02-14 12:19:02 PM  
1 votes:
I hope this teaches people a lesson: The LAPD cannot be trusted.
2013-02-14 12:15:14 PM  
1 votes:
I don't know why I'm bothering, but here goes:

LAPD didn't burn the cabin down. Big Bear isn't even in Los Angeles County. If you have a problem with how the standoff at the cabin was resolved, talk to the San Bernadino Sheriff's Department.

Dorner killed no LAPD officers. Zero. He assassinated two civilians, killed a cop from a different city, and killed a game warden.

If you hate LAPD, whatever. But get your facts right.
2013-02-14 12:14:54 PM  
1 votes:
Isn't "capture and conviction" standard language in a reward? Never really paid attention before, just seems logical to prevent multiple claims.

And aren't there still hearings and legal proceedings that are done to apply a conviction or assign a guilt status, in the event of a suspects death? Would that be able to apply?
2013-02-14 11:57:49 AM  
1 votes:

firefly212: Good luck catching the next cop killer when everyone knows your group is just a bunch of rampaging psychos AND the reward is BS.


Rewards are one of the very few effective tools utilized in real criminal apprehension.
And they threw that right out the window in a blind blood lust for Dorner.
Pathetic!
2013-02-14 11:53:12 AM  
1 votes:

Odd Bird: GORDON: LAPD just keeps improving their image.

Now they are murderers, liars, AND they don't honor their promises.

FTA:  LA's mayor offered the hefty sum for the "capture and conviction" of Dorner.
FTA:  The city council also offered money - $100,000, but also for his capture and conviction.

Neither are the LAPD, so pinning this specific issue directly on the PD would be a bit misguided.


Ok, I retract my statement.  The LAPD are merely liars and murderers.
2013-02-14 11:51:52 AM  
1 votes:
Oh, they'll be allowed to collect that money. Just don't ask too many questions when they DIAF the next day...

/and their bank accounts are mysteriously emptied
2013-02-14 11:50:53 AM  
1 votes:
Excellent use of the Obvious tag. The cops just can't help but be lying dickbags - even after a former cop went postal for them being lying dickbags!

/PR, how does it work?
2013-02-14 11:48:29 AM  
1 votes:
48, 49, 50, 50.5... Sorry. We didn't recover 51% of the carcass. No money for you.

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2013-02-14 11:42:18 AM  
1 votes:

NallTWD: F**K.  I want to like this guy like some murdering Robin Hood, but killing cops is still killing cops... But the LAPD are such utter scumbags... I'm torn.


There are no hero's in this story.  Everyone involved are epic douchebags.
2013-02-14 11:39:22 AM  
1 votes:

DubyaHater: Odd Bird: GORDON: LAPD just keeps improving their image.

Now they are murderers, liars, AND they don't honor their promises.

FTA:  LA's mayor offered the hefty sum for the "capture and conviction" of Dorner.
FTA:  The city council also offered money - $100,000, but also for his capture and conviction.

Neither are the LAPD, so pinning this specific issue directly on the PD would be a bit misguided.

Every article mentioning Dorner becomes an inevitable cop-hating thread.  Let them throw feces at each other for a while and get it out of their systems.


This

Last week they said the reward was a bounty for his head .. Now that's its not hit-money they can claim the conspiracy is now to save the reward money ..
2013-02-14 11:37:41 AM  
1 votes:

CheekyMonkey: snocone: Reward?
What reward?
You expect a reward for helping execute an "Enemy of the State"?
Whas wrong wit yous?

Um, the reward that was offered?


And you believed it?
Learn something, here, we did.
2013-02-14 11:30:28 AM  
1 votes:
The LAPD had no intention of capturing Dorner.  So technically, there never WAS a reward.  It was a revenge killing and they made it as painful as possible.
2013-02-14 11:29:53 AM  
1 votes:
I said in another thread that the cops couldn't kill Dorner without martyring him. Looks like I was right.
2013-02-14 11:24:24 AM  
1 votes:

Odd Bird: GORDON: LAPD just keeps improving their image.

Now they are murderers, liars, AND they don't honor their promises.

FTA:  LA's mayor offered the hefty sum for the "capture and conviction" of Dorner.
FTA:  The city council also offered money - $100,000, but also for his capture and conviction.

Neither are the LAPD, so pinning this specific issue directly on the PD would be a bit misguided.


Every article mentioning Dorner becomes an inevitable cop-hating thread.  Let them throw feces at each other for a while and get it out of their systems.
2013-02-14 11:17:39 AM  
1 votes:
I wonder who is going to pay for the house the cops burned down, but didn't set fire to, so they didn't really burn it down, but it burned down any way. I am sure the owners insurance company will find a reason not to pay.
2013-02-14 11:15:12 AM  
1 votes:
The cops are the ones that botched the capture and convict part, not the tipsters.  Give 'em the damned reward money already.
2013-02-14 11:06:57 AM  
1 votes:
Fear not, Citizens!  Don't forget those two ladies who got shot up by the LAPD are getting a nice new pickup truck for their troubles so not is all bleak at the precinct HQ.
2013-02-14 11:03:07 AM  
1 votes:
where you find conspiracy you find scam you find corruption...

this whole thing has smelled fishy from the beginning and through-out...and will continue to rot until the skeletons emerge.
2013-02-14 11:00:12 AM  
1 votes:
Hey it costs money to settle wrongful death lawsuits, suckers.
2013-02-14 10:59:01 AM  
1 votes:
Reward?
What reward?
You expect a reward for helping execute an "Enemy of the State"?
Whas wrong wit yous?
 
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