JohnAnnArbor: Here's a guy by that name in Chattanooga:http://www.linkedin.com/pub/eric-kiesche/25/7b5/441Huh.
He was fined $50 and ordered to pay court costs on charges of not having a driver's license or proof of insurance and $25 and court costs on a light law violation.
Famous Thamas: Woah, weapons grade derp there: "The flags displayed in State courts and courts of the United States have gold or yellow fringes. That is your WARNING that you are entering into a foreign enclave, the same as if you are stepping into a foreign embassy and you will be under the jurisdiction of that flag.The flag with the gold or yellow fringe has no constitution, no laws, and no rules of court, and is not recognized by any nation on the earth, and is foreign to you and the United States of America."
Citrate1007: Has a sovereign citizen ever won a case?
doubled99: Yeah!!! Authority rules!!!
clancifer: "...Kiesche, who was the speaker for a meeting of the Catoosa County Tea Party in 2011..."That's just like the Liberal Media: Always lumping in the crazy with the stupid.
SpdrJay: I think when you call yourself "sovereign" it's like asking the government to "come at me bro!"
danvon: FTFA: "His mother, who had come out to the car, asked if it was illegal to carry a gun in a car. "I always carry one," she said."What's up with these Sovereign Citizens always having mommy around?
jaybeezey: These sovereign citizen guys are usually just racist meth dealers trying to avoid paying any taxes. I'm not aware of it ever working.
over_and_done: red5ish: This guy reminds me of someone who feels invulnerable because he is in a crosswalk.So, all cyclists everywhere, then?/sorry for the offtopic snark//15mph cyclist out coasting down the middle of the single-lane road this morning///traffic backed up for miles behind him////and yet, if we improved road safety by turning the arrogant fark into a hood ornament, we'd be the ones to go to jailVstill grumpyV/this is how roman slashy numbers work, right?
CheatCommando: MugzyBrown: If the US Colonies could do it with the British, why can't NJ do it with the US, or Newark with NJ, or the whatever neighborhood with Newark, etcUS Grant called. He'd like a word or two about events since 1776.
m00: Mid_mo_mad_man: Unless he's claiming police brutality the camera not working is not a big deal. You don't need video tape to prove no liscence and lack of insuranceWell you need it to prove proper procedure was followed. Depends on when it was turned off. Fruit of the poisoned tree, and all.
MugzyBrown: If the US Colonies could do it with the British, why can't NJ do it with the US, or Newark with NJ, or the whatever neighborhood with Newark, etc
Famous Thamas: rufus-t-firefly: Did the courtroom have a FRINGED FLAG?!?!?http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flag.htmThe flags displayed in State courts and courts of the United States have gold or yellow fringes. That is your WARNING that you are entering into a foreign enclave, the same as if you are stepping into a foreign embassy and you will be under the jurisdiction of that flag.The flag with the gold or yellow fringe has no constitution, no laws, and no rules of court, and is not recognized by any nation on the earth, and is foreign to you and the United States of America.Woah, weapons grade derp there.
m00: Not very impressed with the police>>The officer said the driver "challenged me with different codes and stuff at first."Oh no, the driver probably has an obnoxious level of case law memorized for just this event. Well guess what, it's an officer's job to know the laws too.>>A tape was shown of the incident, though Kiesche claimed it had been altered and that parts were missing. The officer said initially a camera was not working. He said under the new video setup that officers have no way to alter video.Okay, now this is BS. The camera "wasn't working properly" and parts of the stop were missing? Judge should throw out the case based on this alone.
Circusdog320: guess it's okay to use roads funded by taxes....
cubic_spleen: He likely won't have the money to pay the fines until he steals grandma's social security check.
ZAZ: A $50 fine (plus possibly unlimited "court costs") is the maximum punishment by a city court judge in Tennessee. You have a right to a real trial if the fine is greater.
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