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(PBS)   Networking to find a job. You're (probably) doing it wrong   (pbs.org) divider line 17
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2013-02-14 08:36:53 AM
Trying to find a job while not being an ex-astronaut rocket scientist brain-surgeon with 5 PhDs, 20 years of experience and a purple heart?  You're doing it wrong.
 
2013-02-14 08:45:43 AM
Stopped reading. The article is common sense stuff about getting promoted. The type of networking most people are intersted in is about getting on will a new and/or better company.
 
2013-02-14 09:12:42 AM

StrangeQ: Trying to find a job while not being an ex-astronaut rocket scientist brain-surgeon with 5 PhDs, 20 years of experience and a purple heart?  You're doing it wrong.


Plus you need to be currently employed.  Why would they want someone who isn't currently working?  You must have done something wrong if you are unemployed They don't want to hire any slackers who've had extended time off since they've gotten used to not having their lives revolve around work.
 
2013-02-14 09:39:22 AM
People think networking is about building "inside" friendships and schmoozing with the CEO. The truth is, networking is only about being remembered: the ability to get whoever is filtering through the resumes and applications to look at your name or a picture and say "Oh, yeah; them."
 
2013-02-14 09:51:16 AM

Millennium: People think networking is about building "inside" friendships and schmoozing with the CEO. The truth is, networking is only about being remembered: the ability to get whoever is filtering through the resumes and applications to look at your name or a picture and say "Oh, yeah; them."


True, but it's also important to be remembered for positive things. Example:

Good: "Oh, this guy presented on the main stage at the convention last year. Let's bring him in."

Bad: "Oh, this guy presented his penis on the main stage at the convention last year. Hope the authorities bring him in."
 
2013-02-14 09:51:56 AM
As someone in management, I can tell you it is very very apparent when someone is networking with you trying to use a "trick" or "strategy".

Just be real "hey just checking in, did you see this article, thought you'd like it", much better than "If you recall, the last time we spoke I was intending to learn about Options, well here is an excerpt from a book I'm 'reading'".
 
2013-02-14 09:54:53 AM

YodaBlues: Millennium: People think networking is about building "inside" friendships and schmoozing with the CEO. The truth is, networking is only about being remembered: the ability to get whoever is filtering through the resumes and applications to look at your name or a picture and say "Oh, yeah; them."

True, but it's also important to be remembered for positive things. Example:

Good: "Oh, this guy presented on the main stage at the convention last year. Let's bring him in."

Bad: "Oh, this guy presented his penis on the main stage at the convention last year. Hope the authorities bring him in."


I sort of figured this was self-evident, but you've got a point.
 
2013-02-14 10:02:20 AM
As someone who will be laid off from his current job in 45 days...FML.
 
2013-02-14 10:29:54 AM
Ask The Headhunter

Stop right there. The HeadHunter is always going to say "hire a head hunter" as the way to find a new job
 
2013-02-14 12:18:16 PM

StrangeQ: Trying to find a job while not being an ex-astronaut rocket scientist brain-surgeon with 5 PhDs, 20 years of experience and a purple heart?  You're doing it wrong.


Ooh sorry, you're overqualified.
 
2013-02-14 12:18:51 PM
As a former recruiter and a current sales manager, there was one decent piece of advice in TFA:  Don't go through the company's job board if you want to change departments.  This works even if you're not currently employed w/that company.  Find one of the hiring managers (and it's not that hard to do w/LinkedIn and a few phone calls) and get your resume in front of that person.

If you truly think you're a good fit for the posted job, then the hiring manager will be able to recognize that MUCH faster than the idiot kid in HR scanning resumes.  Once you've introduced yourself to the hiring manager, they'll usually help speed you through the process.  They want good people and HR usually sends garbage.  When I'm looking to hire someone, I can usually find 2 or 3 good candidates within a couple of hours where it takes HR 2 or 3 days.  I don't have time to wait and neither do most other hiring managers.
 
2013-02-14 08:32:03 PM

roc6783: As someone who will be laid off from his current job in 45 days...FML.


While I'm sure the news is a pretty bad shock to your system, at least you were notified 45 days (or more) in advance. That is a huge advantage compared to people who show up to work to find a cardboard box on their desks and an email in their inbox to see their supervisor ASAP. So, give yourself a week to get over the FML stage and start working your personal and professional networks. The clock is ticking and the faster you get to work finding your next gig, the smaller the gap in your resume--and between paychecks--will be.
 
2013-02-14 09:19:56 PM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: roc6783: As someone who will be laid off from his current job in 45 days...FML.

While I'm sure the news is a pretty bad shock to your system, at least you were notified 45 days (or more) in advance. That is a huge advantage compared to people who show up to work to find a cardboard box on their desks and an email in their inbox to see their supervisor ASAP. So, give yourself a week to get over the FML stage and start working your personal and professional networks. The clock is ticking and the faster you get to work finding your next gig, the smaller the gap in your resume--and between paychecks--will be.


I definitely appreciate the encouragement.  The FML is because I have spent over a year trying to find a new job, but to be fair, my search was quite casual.  Now it's on like Donkey Kong.

//The only reason I got the notice was because there is a counterpart who is employed by our client and is getting let go from the client, but be hired by us to do 50% of the same duties.  100% of my job is then being split between this person and another team member.  It sucks, but will be better for me in the long run as I now have no choice but to go elsewhere.
 
2013-02-14 11:03:19 PM

brigid_fitch: As a former recruiter and a current sales manager, there was one decent piece of advice in TFA:  Don't go through the company's job board if you want to change departments.  This works even if you're not currently employed w/that company.  Find one of the hiring managers (and it's not that hard to do w/LinkedIn and a few phone calls) and get your resume in front of that person.

If you truly think you're a good fit for the posted job, then the hiring manager will be able to recognize that MUCH faster than the idiot kid in HR scanning resumes.  Once you've introduced yourself to the hiring manager, they'll usually help speed you through the process.  They want good people and HR usually sends garbage.  When I'm looking to hire someone, I can usually find 2 or 3 good candidates within a couple of hours where it takes HR 2 or 3 days.  I don't have time to wait and neither do most other hiring managers.


This.  As a bonus, you get to send personalized introduction email to a real person instead of just submitting an anonymous resume to a black hole.
 
2013-02-14 11:07:57 PM

roc6783: It sucks, but will be better for me in the long run as I now have no choice but to go elsewhere.


That's the spirit! Also, as anyone will tell you, it's easier to find a job when you have a job...probably because you don't reek of desperation and daytime television. :-)
 
2013-02-15 10:54:59 AM

Mitch Taylor's Bro: roc6783: It sucks, but will be better for me in the long run as I now have no choice but to go elsewhere.

That's the spirit! Also, as anyone will tell you, it's easier to find a job when you have a job...probably because you don't reek of desperation and daytime television. :-)


I'm a Farker, I already reek of desperation, Cheetos, and my mom's basement.
 
2013-02-15 05:48:30 PM

brigid_fitch: As a former recruiter and a current sales manager, there was one decent piece of advice in TFA:  Don't go through the company's job board if you want to change departments.  This works even if you're not currently employed w/that company.  Find one of the hiring managers (and it's not that hard to do w/LinkedIn and a few phone calls) and get your resume in front of that person.

If you truly think you're a good fit for the posted job, then the hiring manager will be able to recognize that MUCH faster than the idiot kid in HR scanning resumes.  Once you've introduced yourself to the hiring manager, they'll usually help speed you through the process.  They want good people and HR usually sends garbage.  When I'm looking to hire someone, I can usually find 2 or 3 good candidates within a couple of hours where it takes HR 2 or 3 days.  I don't have time to wait and neither do most other hiring managers.


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