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(AL.com)   CEO of Carnival Cruise lines, who is also managing partner of Miami Heat, was spotted watching a Heat game. Apparently this is frowned upon by some people who apparently expect him to be directing a tow boat operations of distressed cruise ship   (blog.al.com) divider line 31
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6587 clicks; posted to Business » on 13 Feb 2013 at 6:44 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-02-13 06:46:45 PM  
3 votes:
He just wants his life back, is all.
2013-02-13 05:23:22 PM  
3 votes:
He should have swam out to it and towed it back in himself. That selfish bastard.
2013-02-13 07:18:31 PM  
2 votes:

robohobo: Every President we've had has vacationed in the middle of one shiatstorm or another. No difference.


If there was a crippled aircraft carrier floating around the Pacific, you wouldn't see Obama or any other president going to a sporting event. Not that they're capable of doing anything to resolve the situation, but it's still bad juju to be out like that during a crisis.
2013-02-13 07:14:53 PM  
2 votes:

basemetal: Meh, those cruises just don't look like a great get away in the first place.  Crammed all into a boat with thousands of people just does not appeal to me.

/and then there are things like this


SOOOOO this. I wanted to get away for awhile, thought about flying to some city in some country I'd never been to to hang out for a few days (my typical vacation). My cruise enthusiast friends/family (read: evil people who hate me) talked me into taking a cruise.
"it's AMAZING! And you get to go to a lot of countries instead of just one!"

Almost flew home in the third port. There's just SO MANY PEOPLE and you're stuck around them all the time. And the ports suck donkeyballs, too. Oh, look, another Margaritaville, Harley Shop, Hard Rock, and dozens of jewelry shops! Belize is so incredible!!!

Screw cruises and the dipshiat "travelers" aboard them.

/yes, even you. You who is reading this confused, saying "but WE got away from the touristy stuff and took a Cruise sponsored trip to the REAL part of (insert country dependent on US tourism dollars) ." Go back to your stateroom and STFU.
//soapbox, on it.
///not sure what goes on this line here.
2013-02-13 07:12:21 PM  
2 votes:
For a PR aspect you should be lying low, or ideally down at Alabama to personally ensure the passengers are taken care of when you land.  Of course in reality the drones will do the work and you'll just sit in the nicest hotel suite and booze.
2013-02-13 07:08:59 PM  
2 votes:
CEO's are business people.  You expect them to handle operations?

Do you want the CEO of Delta flying your plane?
2013-02-13 07:03:50 PM  
2 votes:

Gilligann: So i'm reading the comments and one in particular stood out.

If things are so bad aboard ship why hasn't the President sent the Coast Guard to evacuate the passangers. Oh!! wait since Obama sold the Coast guard to BP for a $100,000.00 it is now the responsibility of BPs CO to take care of that.

Huh?

Did I miss something or is this just the usual crazy we've come to expect from the right?


A persual of the usual conspiracy sites didn't find that exact brand of crazy.  But I did find an article where the Coast Guard was allegedly working hand-in-hand with BP to keep journalists away from Deepwater Horizon, so maybe at was an attempt at clever shorthand that sounded more like a fat pile of stupid.
2013-02-13 07:02:42 PM  
2 votes:
While I don't think there is anything he could personally do at the exact moment to help, you would think that a company with that many cruise ships would have a better plan of action for situations like this.
2013-02-14 01:39:30 AM  
1 votes:

acefox1: Is it just my imagination or do these Carnival Cruise ships become disabled from engine problems and fires on a fairly regular basis?

/Just learned that Costa Concordia was owned & operated by a Carnival subsidiary.


They alternate it with norovirus outbreaks so that people forget.

/ Glad I don't work in the ER anymore, that realization when the first patient checks in with that and says they are from the cruise ship that just docked sucks like you wouldn't believe, especially when your 12 hour shift has just begun!
2013-02-14 01:01:09 AM  
1 votes:
Carnival has some serious PR problems and the ceo doesn't give a shiat?

I am not surprised. I don't care how inexpensive carnival cruises are, I would NEVER take one.
2013-02-13 10:03:28 PM  
1 votes:
We've been on Carnival cruises exactly three times in the mid 80's.

Food and presentation of same was excellent.  Food 24 hours a day, all of it excellent.  That's the best I can say about a cruise, food is outstanding.

Stage shows and other entertainment was only so-so.

The main thing they push you to do is sit in the main theater and play bingo.  Everything is very controlled with your options specifically limited to make sure you pay Carnival the max amount of money they can milk out of you.

Drinks are horrendously expensive on the boat.

Side trips are nothing more than guided shopping trips to "preferred" stores.  You are very specifically scared into not doing anything not supervised by agents of Carnival.

Any purchase you make off ship is billed to your cabin and "taken back to the boat and stored for you convenience".  That means if you buy something on one of the side trips you don't see it again until you get back to dock side in the US.  My guess is that they don't actually sell any product at all on the side trips, they just take your order and then fulfill the order out of a warehouse where your boat docks at the end of your trip.

If you try to buy booze off ship to circumvent the high prices on the ship they've got you there too.  You can't get any mixer or ice on the ship.  You can buy a bottle of booze and SNEAK it back to your stateroom.  But be prepared to drink it straight from the bottle and without ice.  Good luck finding a glass.

Carnival was not a good experience for us and we didn't have any engine room fires.  I can't imagine how much that sucks.
2013-02-13 09:20:40 PM  
1 votes:

heavymetal: While I don't think there is anything he could personally do at the exact moment to help, you would think that a company with that many cruise ships would have a better plan of action for situations like this.


It still looks bad. Granted the situation was more of a big deal, but I remember when some nut poisoned some Tylenol in the 1980's. The CEO of whoever makes Tylenol did not sleep for four days while every bottle was pulled off the shelves. Every time you saw him on TV he looked more frazzled. It's called giving a damn. If cruise guy was smart he'd fly out to the damn boat and get on it untill it reached shore.
2013-02-13 09:08:46 PM  
1 votes:
I'm guessing this whole Charlie Foxtrot is indicative of a lack of redundancy or separation of redundant systems in the design of cruise ships.
2013-02-13 09:06:19 PM  
1 votes:

DarkSoulNoHope: It makes me wonder if Carnival is going to allow the "Goth Cruise" again due to lost passenger revenue from this incident.


There's still the Royal Caribbean version:   http://gothcruise.com/  (which is the one a FOAF ended up telling me about, and is the one thing that would tempt me onto a cruise ship, ever.)
2013-02-13 08:41:40 PM  
1 votes:
A better CEO would have found a way to drop Bengal Tigers onto the ship and charge each passenger's credit card an extra $1,000 for the "'Life of Pi' Experience"
2013-02-13 08:41:24 PM  
1 votes:
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Shanna, they bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let 'em poop in bags.
2013-02-13 08:39:05 PM  
1 votes:

fusillade762: The headline from the Daily Mail article:

Boss of Carnival cruise ship adds insult to misery by going to basketball game as 4,000 suffer aboard 'stinking stricken ship' with urine-soaked carpets and sewage in cabins

Since when did the Mail start bagging on rich people? I thought they reserved their outrage for welfare queens and the Nanny State?


The Mail is a gutter press tabloid. Its staple is outrage and reactionary stories, just like any other tabloid. It's just aimed at a slightly higher class than the likes of the Sun.

The Mail Online is also one of the most-visited online "news" sites in the world. So, great jerb Drew for passing all that traffic to it.

/I was inspired to watch this, again, however. Graham Linehan (Father Ted, IT Crowd, Big Train et al.) ranting about the Daily Heil, their sidebar of shame, and their keywords of "all grown up" to indicate that a hot loli is legal.
//Go to the Fail's website, and search for "all grown up", you'll see exactly what he means.
2013-02-13 08:32:21 PM  
1 votes:
can't help but feel sorry for that crew that had poop duty... aka 'poop doody'

/went on a cruise that ended in NYC - that was a great view.
//yes, even had a functioning toilet
2013-02-13 07:35:06 PM  
1 votes:
We should have air dropped a research team of sociologists there so we would have a record of the carnage.
2013-02-13 07:31:24 PM  
1 votes:

TinyFist: basemetal: Meh, those cruises just don't look like a great get away in the first place.  Crammed all into a boat with thousands of people just does not appeal to me.

/and then there are things like this

SOOOOO this. I wanted to get away for awhile, thought about flying to some city in some country I'd never been to to hang out for a few days (my typical vacation). My cruise enthusiast friends/family (read: evil people who hate me) talked me into taking a cruise.
"it's AMAZING! And you get to go to a lot of countries instead of just one!"

Almost flew home in the third port. There's just SO MANY PEOPLE and you're stuck around them all the time. And the ports suck donkeyballs, too. Oh, look, another Margaritaville, Harley Shop, Hard Rock, and dozens of jewelry shops! Belize is so incredible!!!

Screw cruises and the dipshiat "travelers" aboard them.

/yes, even you. You who is reading this confused, saying "but WE got away from the touristy stuff and took a Cruise sponsored trip to the REAL part of (insert country dependent on US tourism dollars) ." Go back to your stateroom and STFU.
//soapbox, on it.
///not sure what goes on this line here.


I swear that the only people who keep telling me that cruises are great are people who are trying to convince themselves that they didn't waste thousands of dollars to be locked in a floating mall for a week.
2013-02-13 07:21:50 PM  
1 votes:
3000+ people leaving bags of poop outside their room. That is totally unacceptable.  How is possible that's their Plan F, much less Plan B?

So yeah, I think he should go ahead and miss a game or two until these customers can at least poop in a toilet.   Then he can have his life back.1.bp.blogspot.com
/link is hotter than that bag
2013-02-13 07:16:30 PM  
1 votes:
The headline from the Daily Mail article:

Boss of Carnival cruise ship adds insult to misery by going to basketball game as 4,000 suffer aboard 'stinking stricken ship' with urine-soaked carpets and sewage in cabins

Since when did the Mail start bagging on rich people? I thought they reserved their outrage for welfare queens and the Nanny State?
2013-02-13 07:13:04 PM  
1 votes:

BSABSVR: Ooh, Ned Stark and bel4sucks are here now, too .   Massive E-peens are gonna be pissing all over this thread!


Uh who are you supposed to be?
2013-02-13 07:11:59 PM  
1 votes:
and in my opinion, going on a cruise as a vacation is the equivalent of calling eating at applebee's "fine dining."

you get what you pay for.
2013-02-13 07:08:41 PM  
1 votes:
They should have nuclear power engines.
2013-02-13 07:08:40 PM  
1 votes:
as if his responsibility as CEO would go beyond a media-friendly soundbyte and potentially ordering a refund.

that's akin to expecting the CEO of say, johnson & johnson to personally handle shipping logistics during a product recall.

i'm sure he'd get a phone call at the game if the boat sank.
2013-02-13 07:05:47 PM  
1 votes:
Ooh, Ned Stark and bel4sucks are here now, too .   Massive E-peens are gonna be pissing all over this thread!
2013-02-13 07:02:58 PM  
1 votes:
Amazingly, the facebook comments for that ship aren't being trolled... that, or they're vigilantly deleting them.

http://www.carnival.com/cruise-ships/carnival-triumph.aspx
2013-02-13 07:00:57 PM  
1 votes:
getting agitated about this is entirely illogical.

its also entirely predictable. shoulda kept yer head down till it was back in port dude. missing 1 game wont kill ya.
2013-02-13 06:58:11 PM  
1 votes:

rengav: I read somewhere that Carnival is refunding the passengers' money and giving them a free cruise in the future.  Like anyone is going to claim that free cruise after this fiasco...

I sincerely hope that the passengers sue Carnival for damages, suffering, etc. and win.  And I wish I was a lawyer so I could be on the team and cash in as well.


It makes me wonder if Carnival is going to allow the "Goth Cruise" again due to lost passenger revenue from this incident.
2013-02-13 06:24:12 PM  
1 votes:

davidphogan: He should have swam out to it and towed it back in himself. That selfish bastard.


The CEO of Carnival is Jack Lalane?
 
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