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(Huffington Post)   William Shatner on JJ Abrams: "He's being a pig. He's collecting the two franchises and holding them close to his vest. He's gone too far this time." KIRK HAS SPOKEN   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 27
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2013-02-13 01:31:19 PM  
3 votes:
You know... I think JJ Abrams is better suited to Star Wars then Star Trek.

Don't get me wrong here, I enjoyed the new Star Trek movie quite a lot and am looking forward to the sequel. It was fun, well paced and they totally nailed the characters. But the plot was a mess of holes and incongruities, and they didn't even remotely try to give an inkling of a fark about any of the science they ran roughshod over - even moreso then the previous movies and TV shows usually did - and the villain was a well-acted cardboard cutout who made no sense at all. (SPOILER: seriously, you're pissed off because Spock didn't save your planet in time with the gunk, so you go back in time WITH the goddamn gunk and don't bother to just give it to your planet and say "Hey, in about 50 years you guys are REALLY going to need this for some inexplicable reason. So hold on to this, and reverse-engineer my more advanced ship from the future ship in the meantime to give our empire a distinct technological advantage." No, instead you try to kill all the people who were trying to help, and forget all about Romulus... WTF? And that's just for starters...)

But Star Wars isn't about high-minded ideas, social commentary and speculative fiction on the nature of the effects technolgical advancement and contact with alien races might have on our species... Star Wars is a fantasy adventure. You can say "FARK YOU" to the science so long as the story is fun and the archetypes well executed. I think that would have played to JJ's strengths much better. For Star Trek the details are more important than with Star Wars. In Star Wars you throw a couple deus ex machinas in there and no one bats an eye. They even have a thing just for that! The force! Perfect for Abrahms.
2013-02-13 01:17:53 PM  
3 votes:
No matter how much we biatch and moan in this thread, we're all going to be lined up on opening day, demanding that they take our money.
2013-02-13 02:40:52 PM  
2 votes:

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


You have no Earthly idea of what you are speaking. Abrams made the engine room of the Enterprise look like a desalinization plant, blew up the very civilization that shepherded humanity into the stars, and still managed to trip over his miniscule dick in doing it. The gaping flaws in logic he created in the story line of Star Trek (In Name Only) are obvious to even a casual viewer.
2013-02-13 01:52:16 PM  
2 votes:
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2013-02-13 01:03:41 PM  
2 votes:
Star Wars was low quality pap to begin with. It started out as cheesy action sequences and weak dialogues wrapped up in lame plot twists, it'll end up that way in Abrams' hand. That's all Star Wars is. You can't ruin something by making it stupid and puerile if that's what made it entertaining tin the first place.

And, let's face it. His version of Star Trek isn't exactly the first entry in the franchise that failed to hit it out of the park and devolved into goofy sci-fi action, unlikeable characters and painfully implausible plot lines.
/ complaining that J.J. Abrams is going to ruin the spirit of Star Wars is like complaining because they handed the keys to the Transformers to Michael Bay....
2013-02-14 12:20:22 AM  
1 votes:
Just give us more of this:

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2013-02-13 09:18:22 PM  
1 votes:

trapped-in-CH: Abrams should merge the two franchises and then everyone'll be happy!  Trek Wars!


Cool. Maybe we'll get this "Enterprise vs Star Destroyer" thing settled once and for all.
2013-02-13 04:32:43 PM  
1 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: Bslim: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

No. You are wrong.

Well, season 3 was pretty crappy.


The TOS films were infinity better than the TNG films and JJ's Star Trek film was Star Wars only not as intellectually deep.
2013-02-13 04:03:03 PM  
1 votes:
2013-02-13 02:49:51 PM  
1 votes:
Abrams seems to have a decent name in Hollywood, and I could never figure out why.  I never fully looked at the films Abrams was responsible for until just now, and now I'm baffled.  The films he was a part of are complete dreck.
2013-02-13 02:31:26 PM  
1 votes:

PainInTheASP: Jeez Shat, don't be such a dick.  Oh wait--too late.


I think you dont understand Shatners method of extremely dry humor.
2013-02-13 02:07:55 PM  
1 votes:
The best Star Trek movie was the one with the whales and the old lady regrowing a kidney.
2013-02-13 02:07:45 PM  
1 votes:

anfrind: t's quite possible he would not have lived long to be there to prevent the destruction of Romulus in that timeline.


So he farking tells them that he's a time-traveler and he's trying to help them. And they make sure they have people in place through the generations who can help the situation. It's like the Fifth Element almost.
2013-02-13 01:55:17 PM  
1 votes:

Kurmudgeon: I'll see the next new Trek movie, but I consider the current movie series as a parody. They'll stumble along for awhile, then reboot Star Trek yet again eventually.
/and your little Star Wars TOO.


Your user name. Appropriate it is.
2013-02-13 01:40:42 PM  
1 votes:

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


I think you have that backward.  TOS is the one Trek to rule them all.
2013-02-13 01:40:13 PM  
1 votes:

jayhawk88: for better or worse, has always been Lucas


From what I've heard repeatedly over the past couple of decades, the very best things in Empire Strikes Back did not come from Lucas.  Supposedly, members of the production team fought hard for the much darker themes in the film.
2013-02-13 01:30:28 PM  
1 votes:

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


So does your Mom.

Desquamation: I never could get into TOS


Unlike me who got into your Mom
2013-02-13 01:24:17 PM  
1 votes:
there....that settles it.
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2013-02-13 01:19:51 PM  
1 votes:
You have to hand it to Abrams, it takes guts to step into this. Star Trek movies have always been a mixed bag, based on a number of directors, to the point where we have the even/odd joke. Plus the series have always given fans multiple different points of reference. But Star Wars (at least the movies), for better or worse, has always been Lucas, and despite the fact that Star Wars has been a bit bumpy as of late....the minute we get a Star Wars movie that isn't Lucas, it's going to ruffle feathers. I think that's why  you say Del Toro, Spielberg, Bird, and Abrams himself at one point all turn it down.
2013-02-13 01:18:02 PM  
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: complaining that J.J. Abrams is going to ruin the spirit of Star Wars is like complaining because they handed the keys to the Transformers to Michael Bay....


I don't think Michael Bay is capable of making a great movie.  I think Abrams is.

As for ruining the spirit of Star Wars, I hope he does.  I hope he ruins the spirit of "merchandising first" that embodied every SW film after Episode IV.  I hope he takes the SW universe and ideas, which are endlessly rife with possibilities, and develops a film that is not some stupid thing for the kiddies.  Star Wars could have been farking great in the hands of good writers and directors--and casting agents.  Hopefully now we will have those.  Lucas was terrible at all three.
2013-02-13 01:13:14 PM  
1 votes:
I can't wait for JJ's Star Wars hype train. "Is that tall, woolly person in the trailer actually Chewbacca? Or is it really new character "John Harrison" like they keep telling us?"
2013-02-13 01:13:09 PM  
1 votes:

ristst: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

I would say good bit of trolling, but nah.....way too obvious.


Not trolling... I enjoy almost every other part of the Star Trek universe but despite numerous chances I never could get into TOS.
2013-02-13 01:09:23 PM  
1 votes:

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


I would say good bit of trolling, but nah.....way too obvious.
2013-02-13 01:08:56 PM  
1 votes:

Dear Bill,


The last time we let you have any say in Star Trek land you gave us this:


www.startrek.com


So your opinion on how any franchise should be run is invalid. Shutup and stop whining that Abrams didn't ham-fist you into ST09 like he did Nemoy.

With utmost respect,

Jim from Saint Paul
2013-02-13 01:05:34 PM  
1 votes:

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


No. You are wrong.
2013-02-13 12:57:15 PM  
1 votes:
Just keep Lindelof or whatever the f*ck his name is away
2013-02-13 12:48:58 PM  
1 votes:
Abrams offered Captain Butthurt a cameo in the first ST movie and he refused, wanting a bigger scene.
 
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