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2013-02-13 05:38:17 PM
Not to defend the Abrams trek movie, but say Spock did slingshot around the sun and go back to stop Nero from destroying Vulcan. How exactly was he supposed to do that? The Federation fleet was still outgunned. What plan can you come up with that would overpower the Narada and prevent the destruction?

All I can think of all of ships targeting the drill immediately upon exiting warp, but even then they get destroyed by the Narada. Still, no drill saves Vulcan. Unless Nero decides to detonate red matter on the surface... However, if he never captured Spock to begin with, then Nero has no red matter.
 
2013-02-13 05:44:46 PM

theurge14: mongbiohazard: anfrind: it's ludicrous that he (and his crew) would do anything other than make a b-line straight for the homeworld to deliver them the key to their salvation AND the technological jump-start they'd need to challenge the Federations hegemony.

I'm pretty sure the movie made it clear the Narada by itself outclassed and outgunned the entire Federation flotilla sent to aid Vulcan, having previously taken out a large group of Klingon birds of prey days before.  I'm also pretty sure Kirk in the movie made his point rather clear that it didn't matter where the Federation ships rallied up at, Nero would mow them all down like grass.  No need to visit Romulus.



It sure couldn't hurt to coordinate with the Romulan Empire though, and considering that in the relatively near future - especially for a spacefaring race - the planet was going to be destroyed when their sun inexplicably went nova. And they had the one thing that could stop that from happening in the hold of their ship.... and they didn't even drop it off at the Romulan science academy or something.

And tactically speaking, even if their one inexplicable heavily armed mining ship was a match for the entire Federation fleet, it never hurts to have a damn wingman - let alone if that wingman is the entire Romulan fleet or a good number of their best warships. The enterprise wouldn't have escaped if they so much as had ONE ship accompanying them, and the combined might would have made conquering the rest of explored space much easier.

Hell, a couple of fighter escorts and maybe Spock couldn't have even crashed his little future science vessel into the Romulan ship before being destroyed. Either way, striking it out alone and hiding from everyone, including your own people, while destorying planets on your own would be almost the dumbest single course of action they could have possibly decided on. Pretty damn close to it, anyway...

Hell, they went back in farking time, and their navigational computers could have told them in about 0.1 seconds to what year, so they'd know they had allllll the time in the world to get their rampage on - but with a little planning they could have done it unstoppably.
 
2013-02-13 05:59:42 PM
Have FUN with it!
 
2013-02-13 06:02:09 PM
Anybody click through the "Who should play a young Han Solo" thing at the bottom. I kinda like the idea of Zachary Levi doing it. If they pick someone like Zac Efron, though, I WILL take hostages.
 
2013-02-13 06:10:17 PM

ThatBillmanGuy: Not to defend the Abrams trek movie, but say Spock did slingshot around the sun and go back to stop Nero from destroying Vulcan. How exactly was he supposed to do that? The Federation fleet was still outgunned. What plan can you come up with that would overpower the Narada and prevent the destruction?

All I can think of all of ships targeting the drill immediately upon exiting warp, but even then they get destroyed by the Narada. Still, no drill saves Vulcan. Unless Nero decides to detonate red matter on the surface... However, if he never captured Spock to begin with, then Nero has no red matter.



That's the thing... The more you examine the plot the more it just crumbles apart. Almost none of it made any sense at all, and the bad guys were pretty much completely nonsensical.

I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL, the science made no sense at all (how the hell was future Spock going to see Vulcan destroyed from a moon in another system without a serious telescope and years to wait for the light to reach him?) - but JJ had a LOT of baggage to shed while reintroducing the old characters to a new audience, so I gave him a mulligan on the plot. He got the characters right, and made them interesting, and made someone new to the series understand WHAT was interesting about them, and that was all very important.

Now for this next Star Trek, I'm hoping that now that the introductions have been made the plot will be a lot tighter. If it isn't I'll be pissed, and it's just going to be just plain sloppy on JJ's part.

But Star Wars are adventure stories... Plot holes and Republican science aren't as big deals to those movies.
 
2013-02-13 06:10:54 PM
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I always feel there's an eerie resemblance...
 
2013-02-13 06:12:51 PM

Droog8912: Abrams seems to have a decent name in Hollywood, and I could never figure out why.  I never fully looked at the films Abrams was responsible for until just now, and now I'm baffled.  The films he was a part of are complete dreck.


Essentially, if you want to consider the summertime blockbuster movie as a legitimate type of cinema, it is the pallet fro which he paints to borrow a cliche. And many regard him as a master of the craft. Very much in the same way that people used to regard lucas and spielburg.
Spielberg is now making serious films, lucus? Hes strong on the tech development, abrams and the other guy are the new popcorn film guys that our children are going to grow up to remembering fondly as the movie guys who shaped them.

You'll get over it
 
2013-02-13 06:14:35 PM

mongbiohazard: I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL


It was full of plot holes and ridiculous coincidences. And don't tell me "this is just a sci-fi movie". These people get paid a shiatload of money to write this shiat.
 
2013-02-13 06:27:35 PM
Shut the fu(k up Bill.  Your time in the sun as far as Star Trek is concerned has come to an end.  For once have some decency in your life and move on Mr. Ego.
 
2013-02-13 06:40:29 PM

mongbiohazard: I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL, the science made no sense at all (how the hell was future Spock going to see Vulcan destroyed from a moon in another system without a serious telescope and years to wait for the light to reach him?) - but JJ had a LOT of baggage to shed while reintroducing the old characters to a new audience, so I gave him a mulligan on the plot. He got the characters right, and made them interesting, and made someone new to the series understand WHAT was interesting about them, and that was all very important.


I was 100% with you, right up to here.  I think Abrams used the history of the characters as a crutch to drive the plot contrivances.  Why was the guy who flunked out of Space School, snuck on board the ship, and was just marooned from the ship put in command?  Oh, because he knew about the bad guy's plan because he knew the old guy from the future.  Let's forget for a second that the Federation is well aware that alternate universes exist where a Spock with a goatee is the most evil sonofabiatch in the Empire; I'm sure there are no razors in the future.  But I'm sure his word was good enough.

My point is, take out the names "Spock" and "Kirk", along with the rest of the backbone of the Federation setting, and the movie loses any illusionary vestiges of credibility.
 
2013-02-13 06:43:28 PM

born_yesterday: mongbiohazard: I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL, the science made no sense at all (how the hell was future Spock going to see Vulcan destroyed from a moon in another system without a serious telescope and years to wait for the light to reach him?) - but JJ had a LOT of baggage to shed while reintroducing the old characters to a new audience, so I gave him a mulligan on the plot. He got the characters right, and made them interesting, and made someone new to the series understand WHAT was interesting about them, and that was all very important.

I was 100% with you, right up to here.  I think Abrams used the history of the characters as a crutch to drive the plot contrivances.  Why was the guy who flunked out of Space School, snuck on board the ship, and was just marooned from the ship put in command?  Oh, because he knew about the bad guy's plan because he knew the old guy from the future.  Let's forget for a second that the Federation is well aware that alternate universes exist where a Spock with a goatee is the most evil sonofabiatch in the Empire; I'm sure there are no razors in the future.  But I'm sure his word was good enough.

My point is, take out the names "Spock" and "Kirk", along with the rest of the backbone of the Federation setting, and the movie loses any illusionary vestiges of credibility.


Actually:  I retract that; the Federation had no reason at all to listen to Spock, they had absolutely no farking clue who he really was or where/when the hell he was from.
 
2013-02-13 06:51:43 PM

mongbiohazard: ThatBillmanGuy: Not to defend the Abrams trek movie, but say Spock did slingshot around the sun and go back to stop Nero from destroying Vulcan. How exactly was he supposed to do that? The Federation fleet was still outgunned. What plan can you come up with that would overpower the Narada and prevent the destruction?

All I can think of all of ships targeting the drill immediately upon exiting warp, but even then they get destroyed by the Narada. Still, no drill saves Vulcan. Unless Nero decides to detonate red matter on the surface... However, if he never captured Spock to begin with, then Nero has no red matter.


That's the thing... The more you examine the plot the more it just crumbles apart. Almost none of it made any sense at all, and the bad guys were pretty much completely nonsensical.

I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL, the science made no sense at all (how the hell was future Spock going to see Vulcan destroyed from a moon in another system without a serious telescope and years to wait for the light to reach him?) - but JJ had a LOT of baggage to shed while reintroducing the old characters to a new audience, so I gave him a mulligan on the plot. He got the characters right, and made them interesting, and made someone new to the series understand WHAT was interesting about them, and that was all very important.

Now for this next Star Trek, I'm hoping that now that the introductions have been made the plot will be a lot tighter. If it isn't I'll be pissed, and it's just going to be just plain sloppy on JJ's part.

But Star Wars are adventure stories... Plot holes and Republican science aren't as big deals to those movies.


I agree completely.  The plot of Star Trek just pulled me out of the movie.  Perhaps because I have a little background in the military, the whole promotion thing was where I literally exclaimed 'WTF is this shiat?'
 
2013-02-13 06:56:14 PM

born_yesterday: born_yesterday: mongbiohazard: I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL, the science made no sense at all (how the hell was future Spock going to see Vulcan destroyed from a moon in another system without a serious telescope and years to wait for the light to reach him?) - but JJ had a LOT of baggage to shed while reintroducing the old characters to a new audience, so I gave him a mulligan on the plot. He got the characters right, and made them interesting, and made someone new to the series understand WHAT was interesting about them, and that was all very important.

I was 100% with you, right up to here.  I think Abrams used the history of the characters as a crutch to drive the plot contrivances.  Why was the guy who flunked out of Space School, snuck on board the ship, and was just marooned from the ship put in command?  Oh, because he knew about the bad guy's plan because he knew the old guy from the future.  Let's forget for a second that the Federation is well aware that alternate universes exist where a Spock with a goatee is the most evil sonofabiatch in the Empire; I'm sure there are no razors in the future.  But I'm sure his word was good enough.

My point is, take out the names "Spock" and "Kirk", along with the rest of the backbone of the Federation setting, and the movie loses any illusionary vestiges of credibility.

Actually:  I retract that; the Federation had no reason at all to listen to Spock, they had absolutely no farking clue who he really was or where/when the hell he was from.


However he would have known how to pull strings and politics.  All it would take is an audience with the right person and Future Spock could say:  "You are developing this weapon on this planet, this plan is currently in progress, if you point a sensor in this direction, you will discover a planet you never knew existed, Oh, and here are some physics discoveries that you won't discover for 80 years.  Now, with that out of the way, let me tell you something really important..."

He could have gone to Vulcan, those guys tend to take logic pretty seriously.
 
2013-02-13 07:08:12 PM

kim jong-un: However he would have known how to pull strings and politics. All it would take is an audience with the right person and Future Spock could say: "You are developing this weapon on this planet, this plan is currently in progress, if you point a sensor in this direction, you will discover a planet you never knew existed, Oh, and here are some physics discoveries that you won't discover for 80 years. Now, with that out of the way, let me tell you something really important..."

He could have gone to Vulcan, those guys tend to take logic pretty seriously.


Then it could very well have been bearded Spock, escaping from the Empire to wreak havoc on this timeline for his own nefarious ends?  Maybe the first part of what we saw was a lie, or misrepresented, and Evil Spock actually did destroy Romulus on behalf of the Empire, and escaped to an alternate timeline to bide his time.  Now that would have been an actual plot twist; Nero was actually telling the truth, and evil Spock was the liar.  In any case, I thought the movie and Abrams were both really overrated; YMMV.  I'm sure he cares what I think; I'm surfing the net in my underwear.

I will agree with this, though:

Mugato: mongbiohazard: I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL

It was full of plot holes and ridiculous coincidences. And don't tell me "this is just a sci-fi movie". These people get paid a shiatload of money to write this shiat.

 
2013-02-13 07:34:48 PM
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If he does good, JJ Abrams will see the cowboy one more time. He'll see the cowboy two more times if he does bad.
 
2013-02-13 08:14:46 PM

Ennuipoet: [static.tvguide.com image 210x305]
"Soon I will have Babylon 5 AND Stargate...and I will be the Supreme Power in the UNIVERSE!"
/Diabolical Laughter


YOU STAY AWAY FROM STARGATE
 
2013-02-13 08:20:18 PM
Plinkett explains why Abrams' rebooting of Star Trek was actually the right move, and not a bad movie:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/

Seriously... If you guys are going to jump on RedLetterMedia/Plinkett reviews as the de facto reasoning behind the Star Wars prequels sucking, then you need to at least respect his review of Star Trek which ultimately explains that it's what was needed, and it was a decent movie despite some flaws.
 
2013-02-13 08:39:16 PM
Abrams should merge the two franchises and then everyone'll be happy!  Trek Wars!
 
2013-02-13 08:58:27 PM

HMS_Blinkin: I'm mostly worried about that "young Han Solo" slide show at the bottom of TFA.  PLEASE tell me that the next SW movie isn't going to contain classic characters with new actors!

JJ Abrams, if you're reading this, go play KOTOR and KOTOR II and learn about how easy (and awesome!) it is to make up fresh stories at different points in galactic history.


This, dammit. Telling more backstory about the characters we've known for decades only cheapens them.
 
2013-02-13 09:18:22 PM

trapped-in-CH: Abrams should merge the two franchises and then everyone'll be happy!  Trek Wars!


Cool. Maybe we'll get this "Enterprise vs Star Destroyer" thing settled once and for all.
 
2013-02-13 09:30:26 PM

Mugato: mongbiohazard: I'm sure it sounds by now like I hated the movie but I really didn't - I really liked it quite a bit. The plot was sloppy as HELL

It was full of plot holes and ridiculous coincidences. And don't tell me "this is just a sci-fi movie". These people get paid a shiatload of money to write this shiat.



I totally agree, which is why I'll be holding the plot of the sequel to a much higher standard.

But for this reboot he had a tough job to do... Shed the baggage of decades of TV shows and introduce the characters to new generations of fans who weren't even alive when TOS was aired (hell some of their PARENTS weren't even alive then - /cry), make them understand why those characters are interesting and introduce the universe. And he only had 2 hours to do it, not a season of episodes. I think he did it well, and so for me the gaping numerous plot holes were secondary.

But if he pulls that shiat again I'm not going to be so understanding the second time around. Now everyone knows who is who and what is what. Now he's got to tell a good story, and plot holes the size of Romulus aren't going to cut it.

And yeah, "it's just scifi" is a ridiculous pantload. I expect MORE from scifi, not less. It has farking science in the name.
 
2013-02-13 09:31:53 PM
Honestly... talented and capable directors able to take well known sci-fi franchises like Star Trek and turn it into something on the big screen that is, not only financially successful, but halfway decent, is a rare thing.

I am halfway curious what another trilogy might bring if a bit of thought was put into it.  And for fark's sake, keep Lucas out of the damned writing.  There will be no one to stop us this time.
 
2013-02-13 09:52:53 PM

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/hot like a flare

 
2013-02-13 09:59:23 PM
The Clones Wars cartoon is more Star Warsy than Star Wars ever was.
 
2013-02-13 10:11:57 PM

kim jong-un: Perhaps because I have a little background in the military, the whole promotion thing was where I literally exclaimed 'WTF is this shiat?'


Perhaps it was because Kirk's scores were exemplary in the Academy (we don't know) and that Pike had a serious hero hard-on for Kirks dad (that part we do know) ... So, on a ship full of cadets.. why not go with your gut?
 
2013-02-13 10:13:22 PM
Shatner, like Little Richard, has become a caricature of himself. Why should I give a crap what he thinks?
 
2013-02-13 10:19:28 PM

trapped-in-CH: Abrams should merge the two franchises and then everyone'll be happy!  Trek Wars!


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2013-02-13 10:24:22 PM

fusillade762: trapped-in-CH: Abrams should merge the two franchises and then everyone'll be happy!  Trek Wars!

Cool. Maybe we'll get this "Enterprise vs Star Destroyer" thing settled once and for all.


I thought it was settled. A Star Destroyer, that does indeed have shields, that doesn't just fire "lasers," with a squadron of tie-fighters screaming out the bay doors would easily defeat the Enterprise.
 
2013-02-13 11:05:31 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Shatty's just mad because Nimoy got to star in the reboot and he didn't. When Shatner starred in Generations, you didn't hear Nimoy whining about it, did you? (Nimoy was probably happy to have dodged that bullet, but I digress...)


In Generations, Scotty is saying Spock's lines and Chekov is saying McCoy's. They barely changed the script after Nimoy and Kelley turned it down.

A scene was written for Star Trek (2009) that had Nimoy's Spock watch a fairly long holographic message from Shatner's Kirk, but Shatner was never offered it. It's widely repeated that Shatner and Nimoy have contracts guaranteeing equal compensation if they both participate in a Star Trek production. It was obvious this scene for Shatner wasn't equally valuable as Nimoy's significant role in the movie.

If Shatner wanted to keep playing Kirk he shouldn't have agreed to kill Kirk. It took a whole movie to resurrect Spock after Nimoy killed him, and nobody wants to do a sequel to the Nexus space heaven thing in Generations to explain how Kirk would come back.  If you're not sure about dying, make sure you die in something good enough to have a sequel.
 
2013-02-13 11:44:15 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Essentially, if you want to consider the summertime blockbuster movie as a legitimate type of cinema, it is the pallet fro which he paints to borrow a cliche. And many regard him as a master of the craft. Very much in the same way that people used to regard lucas and spielburg.
Spielberg is now making serious films, lucus? Hes strong on the tech development, abrams and the other guy are the new popcorn film guys that our children are going to grow up to remembering fondly as the movie guys who shaped them.

You'll get over it


I only looked at wiki, and his credits there are: absolutely terrible writing credits in the 90s, mediocre producing/directing of action films in the 00s, and then Star Trek.  As someone who isn't a fan of Star Trek (not that I dislike I, I just never got into it), I thought his version was a decent scifi film but not amazing.  I have nothing to "get over"; I'm not upset by any stretch, simply unimpressed by him and don't think he's worthy of so much attention.  But, hey, at least he isn't Brett Ratner.
 
2013-02-14 12:20:22 AM
Just give us more of this:

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2013-02-14 12:36:02 AM
s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com
s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com
/pvponline.com
//very dead on sometimes
 
2013-02-14 08:21:42 AM

Nem Wan: If Shatner wanted to keep playing Kirk he shouldn't have agreed to kill Kirk. It took a whole movie to resurrect Spock after Nimoy killed him, and nobody wants to do a sequel to the Nexus space heaven thing in Generations to explain how Kirk would come back. If you're not sure about dying, make sure you die in something good enough to have a sequel.


In JJ's convoluted universe, this is a different timeline, one where Kirk 2.0 might not die in the Generations movie scenario. Therefore, Shatner could come back as Kirk 2.0 from the future. It would be farking stupid but it wouldn't violate canon.
 
2013-02-14 08:28:55 AM

mongbiohazard: Hell, they went back in farking time, and their navigational computers could have told them in about 0.1 seconds to what year, so they'd know they had allllll the time in the world to get their rampage on - but with a little planning they could have done it unstoppably.


More likely is that the computers told them they were at Ceti Alpha VI. It's the equivalent of the BSOD in Trekverse, right?
 
2013-02-14 08:50:12 AM
ZeroCorpse

Plinkett explains why Abrams' rebooting of Star Trek was actually the right move, and not a bad movie:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/

Seriously... If you guys are going to jump on RedLetterMedia/Plinkett reviews as the de facto reasoning behind the Star Wars prequels sucking
After their Indiana Jones review stated Shilabuff is a great natural actor, didn't they loose all credibility?
 
2013-02-14 09:41:39 AM

Mugato: Madbassist1: Mugato: was Star Wars only not as intellectually deep.

is that a joke?

Yes, that was a joke. Meaning that it was even dumber than the worst Star Wars movie. Christ, what concept doesn't need to be explicitly explained to everyone?


Wow, asshole. With all the farking star wars nerds running around here it was a farking legit question. And I had you favorited. Revoked!

*sniffle*
 
2013-02-14 10:09:00 AM

OnlyM3: ZeroCorpse

Plinkett explains why Abrams' rebooting of Star Trek was actually the right move, and not a bad movie:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/

Seriously... If you guys are going to jump on RedLetterMedia/Plinkett reviews as the de facto reasoning behind the Star Wars prequels suckingAfter their Indiana Jones review stated Shilabuff is a great natural actor, didn't they loose all credibility?


Citation needed.
 
2013-02-14 10:27:46 AM

Jim from Saint Paul: OnlyM3: ZeroCorpse

Plinkett explains why Abrams' rebooting of Star Trek was actually the right move, and not a bad movie:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/

Seriously... If you guys are going to jump on RedLetterMedia/Plinkett reviews as the de facto reasoning behind the Star Wars prequels suckingAfter their Indiana Jones review stated Shilabuff is a great natural actor, didn't they loose all credibility?

Citation needed.


That Plinket guy really gets sucked off a lot around here. And he is funny and does have some insight but it's nothing most geeks don't already know, he just put it alongside some laborious editing.

Yes, unfortunately despite how vast the Star Trek universe is, going back to the Kirk/Spock well was a wise move because of name recognition. And making it look more like a Star Wars movie (each of which still made a shiatton more money than any Trek movie, no matter how the internet community hates the prequels)  was also the right call. All of that is obvious.

It just sucks that the TNG movies were all so terrible. If they didn't completely drop the ball on the TNG movies they could have had their own Wrath of Khan and wouldn't have to go back to Kirk/Spock. Which they took a few stabs at but failed miserably
 
2013-02-14 11:08:16 AM

Mugato: Jim from Saint Paul: OnlyM3: ZeroCorpse

Plinkett explains why Abrams' rebooting of Star Trek was actually the right move, and not a bad movie:
http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-trek/star-trek-09/

Seriously... If you guys are going to jump on RedLetterMedia/Plinkett reviews as the de facto reasoning behind the Star Wars prequels suckingAfter their Indiana Jones review stated Shilabuff is a great natural actor, didn't they loose all credibility?

Citation needed.

That Plinket guy really gets sucked off a lot around here. And he is funny and does have some insight but it's nothing most geeks don't already know, he just put it alongside some laborious editing.

Yes, unfortunately despite how vast the Star Trek universe is, going back to the Kirk/Spock well was a wise move because of name recognition. And making it look more like a Star Wars movie (each of which still made a shiatton more money than any Trek movie, no matter how the internet community hates the prequels)  was also the right call. All of that is obvious.

It just sucks that the TNG movies were all so terrible. If they didn't completely drop the ball on the TNG movies they could have had their own Wrath of Khan and wouldn't have to go back to Kirk/Spock. Which they took a few stabs at but failed miserably


Well there are a couple of writers that come up with the ideas and then one of them do the voiceover.

I gladly suck their dick, GLADLY I SAY, when it comes to their TNG reviews and the Episode 1 review. Their 90 minute review was more entertaining then that movie was.

I 100% enjoyed this:

ecx.images-amazon.com

better then Generations, Insurection and Nemesis. It's on par with First Contact.

Yes, William shattner ghost writing his own masturabtory fantasies is more entertaing then Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis.

To be clear I enjoyed the last Indiana Jones so I respectfully disagree with them on that and the ST09 review was nothing special really.

 I just 98% agree with everything "he" says in the reviews I mentioned.

/Movie Picard, we'll call him "Larry"
 
2013-02-14 11:10:28 AM

TV's Vinnie: [i4.ytimg.com image 320x180]

JJ Abrams' MY Little Pony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STZfXF1f66M


This.   Is.    Abookmark.
 
2013-02-14 12:14:28 PM
OnlyM3:Seriously... If you guys are going to jump on RedLetterMedia/Plinkett reviews as the de facto reasoning behind the Star Wars prequels sucking After their Indiana Jones review stated Shilabuff is a great natural actor, didn't they loose all credibility?

God dammit! L-O-S-E. Lose. Opposite of gain. WTF is so hard about spelling that word these days????

/MSNBC spelled it wrong too, Idiocracy is already here
 
2013-02-14 12:16:34 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: I 100% enjoyed this:

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

better then Generations, Insurection and Nemesis. It's on par with First Contact.

Yes, William shattner ghost writing his own masturabtory fantasies is more entertaing then Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis.


If you think he wrote ANYTHING of that novel I have an actual starship to sell you, cheap.

/not on par with ST:FC
 
2013-02-14 12:47:56 PM

peterthx: Jim from Saint Paul: I 100% enjoyed this:

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

better then Generations, Insurection and Nemesis. It's on par with First Contact.

Yes, William shattner ghost writing his own masturabtory fantasies is more entertaing then Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis.

If you think he wrote ANYTHING of that novel I have an actual starship to sell you, cheap.

/not on par with ST:FC


That's why i said "ghost writing".
 
2013-02-14 12:51:11 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: That's why i said "ghost writing".


Shatner's name on the novel really bugs the shiat out of me, since he said he never watched an episode of TNG yet the book is almost entirely within the TNG universe. Pocket should be ashamed of themselves.
 
2013-02-14 12:55:45 PM

peterthx: Shatner's name on the novel really bugs the shiat out of me, since he said he never watched an episode of TNG yet the book is almost entirely within the TNG universe. Pocket should be ashamed of themselves.


He "wrote" a book where Kirk was resurrected by the Borg. If you had a gun to his head you wouldn't get Shatner to tell you WTF a "Borg" is.
 
2013-02-14 01:08:51 PM

Mugato: peterthx: Shatner's name on the novel really bugs the shiat out of me, since he said he never watched an episode of TNG yet the book is almost entirely within the TNG universe. Pocket should be ashamed of themselves.

He "wrote" a book where Kirk was resurrected by the Borg. If you had a gun to his head you wouldn't get Shatner to tell you WTF a "Borg" is.


Pssst.

I don;t CARE who wrote it guys. It was entertaining.
 
2013-02-14 09:58:58 PM
As someone who became a Trekker in 1968, I have to place TOS on a pedestal. (DS9 is my favorite spinoff). That said, I feel the original pilot (the complete version, with Jeffery Hunter), stands up quite well for being some 50 years old.

/get off my lawn
//I'll give you $5 to cut it first.....
 
2013-02-14 10:05:13 PM

Lee451: As someone who became a Trekker in 1968, I have to place TOS on a pedestal. (DS9 is my favorite spinoff). That said, I feel the original pilot (the complete version, with Jeffery Hunter), stands up quite well for being some 50 years old.


Wasn't Spock kind of a spaz in that episode?
 
2013-02-14 10:06:42 PM
Headline is             missing           several out-of-place             pauses.
 
2013-02-15 02:04:10 AM

Lee451: As someone who became a Trekker in 1968, I have to place TOS on a pedestal.


I love that f;ans think using this term somehow legitimizes it more than "trekkies."
 
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