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(Huffington Post)   William Shatner on JJ Abrams: "He's being a pig. He's collecting the two franchises and holding them close to his vest. He's gone too far this time." KIRK HAS SPOKEN   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 156
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2013-02-13 12:05:26 PM
static.tvguide.com
"Soon I will have Babylon 5 AND Stargate...and I will be the Supreme Power in the UNIVERSE!"
/Diabolical Laughter
 
2013-02-13 12:09:25 PM
They should let him do Indiana Jones too.
 
2013-02-13 12:21:42 PM
Or a TJ Hooker remake.
 
2013-02-13 12:48:58 PM
Abrams offered Captain Butthurt a cameo in the first ST movie and he refused, wanting a bigger scene.
 
2013-02-13 12:53:58 PM
I! AM! KIROK!

/*cough*cough*
 
2013-02-13 12:54:09 PM
Jeez Shat, don't be such a dick.  Oh wait--too late.
 
2013-02-13 12:57:15 PM
Just keep Lindelof or whatever the f*ck his name is away
 
2013-02-13 12:59:26 PM
Hero tag is right. fark that lensflaring hack.
 
2013-02-13 01:01:54 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Abrams offered Captain Butthurt a cameo in the first ST movie and he refused, wanting a bigger scene.


images.betterworldbooks.com
Bought it for a buck. In it it details Shat's obsession with 'line counting' in that in every episode of ToS, he had to say the most line. So him being pissed the Nimoy got so much screen-time would explain for his refusal for a cameo.
Not getting an invitation to the new one would explain him trying to piss all over JJ
/lensflares
 
2013-02-13 01:02:55 PM
JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.
 
2013-02-13 01:03:41 PM
Star Wars was low quality pap to begin with. It started out as cheesy action sequences and weak dialogues wrapped up in lame plot twists, it'll end up that way in Abrams' hand. That's all Star Wars is. You can't ruin something by making it stupid and puerile if that's what made it entertaining tin the first place.

And, let's face it. His version of Star Trek isn't exactly the first entry in the franchise that failed to hit it out of the park and devolved into goofy sci-fi action, unlikeable characters and painfully implausible plot lines.
/ complaining that J.J. Abrams is going to ruin the spirit of Star Wars is like complaining because they handed the keys to the Transformers to Michael Bay....
 
2013-02-13 01:04:51 PM
Bill is just saying what everyone is thinking.
 
2013-02-13 01:05:34 PM

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


No. You are wrong.
 
2013-02-13 01:07:03 PM
FTA:  "I think of him as a buddy of mine. I've taken him out for sushi. I think it's time for J.J. and I to have another sushi and let me put him straight about two of the largest franchises," Shatner said to Movie Fanatic, before joking, "not employing me in either one of them is just foolhardy."

You owe me a keyboard, Bill.
 
2013-02-13 01:07:31 PM
Bill: get a life.
 
2013-02-13 01:07:45 PM
AAABBBRRRAAAMMMSSS!!!
 
2013-02-13 01:08:56 PM

Dear Bill,


The last time we let you have any say in Star Trek land you gave us this:


www.startrek.com


So your opinion on how any franchise should be run is invalid. Shutup and stop whining that Abrams didn't ham-fist you into ST09 like he did Nemoy.

With utmost respect,

Jim from Saint Paul
 
2013-02-13 01:09:23 PM

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


I would say good bit of trolling, but nah.....way too obvious.
 
2013-02-13 01:10:31 PM

Bslim: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

No. You are wrong.


No. YOU are wrong.

[/argument]
 
2013-02-13 01:13:09 PM

ristst: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

I would say good bit of trolling, but nah.....way too obvious.


Not trolling... I enjoy almost every other part of the Star Trek universe but despite numerous chances I never could get into TOS.
 
2013-02-13 01:13:14 PM
I can't wait for JJ's Star Wars hype train. "Is that tall, woolly person in the trailer actually Chewbacca? Or is it really new character "John Harrison" like they keep telling us?"
 
2013-02-13 01:16:33 PM

Desquamation: ristst: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

I would say good bit of trolling, but nah.....way too obvious.

Not trolling... I enjoy almost every other part of the Star Trek universe but despite numerous chances I never could get into TOS.


60's SciFi is an...acquired taste.
 
2013-02-13 01:17:53 PM
No matter how much we biatch and moan in this thread, we're all going to be lined up on opening day, demanding that they take our money.
 
2013-02-13 01:18:02 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: complaining that J.J. Abrams is going to ruin the spirit of Star Wars is like complaining because they handed the keys to the Transformers to Michael Bay....


I don't think Michael Bay is capable of making a great movie.  I think Abrams is.

As for ruining the spirit of Star Wars, I hope he does.  I hope he ruins the spirit of "merchandising first" that embodied every SW film after Episode IV.  I hope he takes the SW universe and ideas, which are endlessly rife with possibilities, and develops a film that is not some stupid thing for the kiddies.  Star Wars could have been farking great in the hands of good writers and directors--and casting agents.  Hopefully now we will have those.  Lucas was terrible at all three.
 
2013-02-13 01:19:51 PM
You have to hand it to Abrams, it takes guts to step into this. Star Trek movies have always been a mixed bag, based on a number of directors, to the point where we have the even/odd joke. Plus the series have always given fans multiple different points of reference. But Star Wars (at least the movies), for better or worse, has always been Lucas, and despite the fact that Star Wars has been a bit bumpy as of late....the minute we get a Star Wars movie that isn't Lucas, it's going to ruffle feathers. I think that's why  you say Del Toro, Spielberg, Bird, and Abrams himself at one point all turn it down.
 
2013-02-13 01:24:17 PM
there....that settles it.
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2013-02-13 01:30:28 PM

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


So does your Mom.

Desquamation: I never could get into TOS


Unlike me who got into your Mom
 
2013-02-13 01:31:19 PM
You know... I think JJ Abrams is better suited to Star Wars then Star Trek.

Don't get me wrong here, I enjoyed the new Star Trek movie quite a lot and am looking forward to the sequel. It was fun, well paced and they totally nailed the characters. But the plot was a mess of holes and incongruities, and they didn't even remotely try to give an inkling of a fark about any of the science they ran roughshod over - even moreso then the previous movies and TV shows usually did - and the villain was a well-acted cardboard cutout who made no sense at all. (SPOILER: seriously, you're pissed off because Spock didn't save your planet in time with the gunk, so you go back in time WITH the goddamn gunk and don't bother to just give it to your planet and say "Hey, in about 50 years you guys are REALLY going to need this for some inexplicable reason. So hold on to this, and reverse-engineer my more advanced ship from the future ship in the meantime to give our empire a distinct technological advantage." No, instead you try to kill all the people who were trying to help, and forget all about Romulus... WTF? And that's just for starters...)

But Star Wars isn't about high-minded ideas, social commentary and speculative fiction on the nature of the effects technolgical advancement and contact with alien races might have on our species... Star Wars is a fantasy adventure. You can say "FARK YOU" to the science so long as the story is fun and the archetypes well executed. I think that would have played to JJ's strengths much better. For Star Trek the details are more important than with Star Wars. In Star Wars you throw a couple deus ex machinas in there and no one bats an eye. They even have a thing just for that! The force! Perfect for Abrahms.
 
2013-02-13 01:31:37 PM
Shatty's just mad because Nimoy got to star in the reboot and he didn't. When Shatner starred in Generations, you didn't hear Nimoy whining about it, did you? (Nimoy was probably happy to have dodged that bullet, but I digress...)
 
2013-02-13 01:35:54 PM
Give him the Harry Potter license and then we can finally do the best three-way crossover trilogy that fanfic writers can churn out.
 
2013-02-13 01:35:55 PM
 
2013-02-13 01:40:13 PM

jayhawk88: for better or worse, has always been Lucas


From what I've heard repeatedly over the past couple of decades, the very best things in Empire Strikes Back did not come from Lucas.  Supposedly, members of the production team fought hard for the much darker themes in the film.
 
2013-02-13 01:40:42 PM

Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.


I think you have that backward.  TOS is the one Trek to rule them all.
 
2013-02-13 01:41:41 PM

Strolpol: Give him the Harry Potter license and then we can finally do the best three-way crossover trilogy that fanfic writers can churn out.


Hmmm...I'm not sure Yoda, Dobby, and a mess of tribbles would make it past the censors.
 
2013-02-13 01:46:09 PM
He should offer shat some significant screen time in the new Star Wars, as some bald headed alien then edit it down into some throw away gag.

/there will be hell toupee
 
2013-02-13 01:46:34 PM

LoneWolf343: 60's SciFi is an...acquired taste


Oh c'mon....who wouldn't love that classic 23rd century stuff (designed in the 60s of course)?  Black leather casing....silver highlights....
 
2013-02-13 01:49:43 PM
I'll see the next new Trek movie, but I consider the current movie series as a parody. They'll stumble along for awhile, then reboot Star Trek yet again eventually.
/and your little Star Wars TOO.
 
2013-02-13 01:49:53 PM

StrikitRich: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

I think you have that backward.  TOS is the one Trek to rule them all.


Well if we are going to make references to "rings":

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2013-02-13 01:50:28 PM
Man, being called a pig by the biggest ham in the acting world must sting a little!
 
2013-02-13 01:50:36 PM

Bathia_Mapes: Abrams offered Captain Butthurt a cameo in the first ST movie and he refused, wanting a bigger scene.


At this point, Shat might make an excellent Harry Mudd.
 
2013-02-13 01:51:39 PM

Red Shirt Blues: Desquamation: JJ's Star Trek is better than TOS.

/TOS sucked.

So does your Mom.

Desquamation: I never could get into TOS

Unlike me who got into your Mom


I hear she calls you her "Big Mugatu."
 
2013-02-13 01:51:46 PM

ristst: jayhawk88: for better or worse, has always been Lucas

From what I've heard repeatedly over the past couple of decades, the very best things in Empire Strikes Back did not come from Lucas.  Supposedly, members of the production team fought hard for the much darker themes in the film.


True, Kershner was probably the driving force on that movie, but it was still Lucas' story.
 
2013-02-13 01:52:16 PM
keithroysdon.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-13 01:52:46 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Dear Bill,
The last time we let you have any say in Star Trek land you gave us this:
[www.startrek.com image 320x320]
So your opinion on how any franchise should be run is invalid. Shutup and stop whining that Abrams didn't ham-fist you into ST09 like he did Nemoy.

With utmost respect,

Jim from Saint Paul


You, sir, should shut up for you are not even worthy to carry Shatner's tired, old wrinkled testicles.
 
2013-02-13 01:53:29 PM
I'm not that big of a fan of Abram's Trek, though I don't hate them. That said, with him in doing both series, I hope he doesn't start homogenizing things. Lens flare and shaky cam are almost a given, so let's hope he doesn't start using the same type of character development and other tropes across both movies.
 
2013-02-13 01:55:17 PM

Kurmudgeon: I'll see the next new Trek movie, but I consider the current movie series as a parody. They'll stumble along for awhile, then reboot Star Trek yet again eventually.
/and your little Star Wars TOO.


Your user name. Appropriate it is.
 
2013-02-13 01:56:41 PM

Ennuipoet: [static.tvguide.com image 210x305]
"Soon I will have Babylon 5 AND Stargate...and I will be the Supreme Power in the UNIVERSE!"
/Diabolical Laughter


Well, if it reignites those two franchises...
 
2013-02-13 01:59:09 PM
Pic of JJ in article screams for a "WFT is this shiat" caption.
 
2013-02-13 02:01:26 PM

mongbiohazard: (SPOILER: seriously, you're pissed off because Spock didn't save your planet in time with the gunk, so you go back in time WITH the goddamn gunk and don't bother to just give it to your planet and say "Hey, in about 50 years you guys are REALLY going to need this for some inexplicable reason. So hold on to this, and reverse-engineer my more advanced ship from the future ship in the meantime to give our empire a distinct technological advantage." No, instead you try to kill all the people who were trying to help, and forget all about Romulus... WTF? And that's just for starters...)


Nero and Spock Prime got sent back a lot more than 50 years--I think it was more like 100 years, and they had no way to control the time warp.  I don't think the movie ever revealed Nero's age, but even with Romulans living as long as Vulcans, it's quite possible he would not have lived long to be there to prevent the destruction of Romulus in that timeline.

Also, I suppose that seeing his planet destroyed could have also destroyed his sanity, basically turning him into the "Star Trek" equivalent of a reaver.
 
2013-02-13 02:02:50 PM
How the fark is William Shatner 81 years old?  He looks 65, tops.  That man must have the best plastic surgeon in the world.
 
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