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(Yahoo)   Dear Abby: My two daughters are sharing one husband when it comes to sex. My husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts, but I think it's horrendous. Should I continue to protest or let it go?   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 332
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2013-02-13 09:26:43 AM
Abby's response to this should have simply been "Stop lying".
 
2013-02-13 09:32:47 AM
Dear Heart-Broken Mom:

Your daughters are whores. Well done.
 
2013-02-13 09:35:54 AM
I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.
 
2013-02-13 09:45:29 AM
Well, you know, two chicks at one time are the fantasy.

Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.
 
2013-02-13 09:56:52 AM

Secret Agent X23: Well, you know, two chicks at one time are the fantasy.

Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.


You need a /DNRTFA.

And why would it not be happening? I've come across some wild/open relationships.

My last gf wanted me and her ex at the same time. That's what is known as "not happening". And helluva lot less likely than one sister letting the other have sex with her husband.
 
2013-02-13 10:06:18 AM
Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years
 
2013-02-13 10:09:34 AM

PreMortem: And why would it not be happening? I've come across some wild/open relationships.


Actually, it could happen, and maybe it's happening here, but "Melanie's argument is that Sam is less likely to cheat given this situation" doesn't quite ring true. If she doesn't want him to cheat... then... wut???
 
2013-02-13 10:10:47 AM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.
 
2013-02-13 10:12:24 AM

The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.


Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.
 
2013-02-13 10:19:02 AM

the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.


Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.
 
2013-02-13 10:41:27 AM

The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.


Also, possibly Canadian.
 
2013-02-13 10:50:29 AM

Elandriel: The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.

Also, possibly Canadian.


And then she died of cancer.
 
2013-02-13 11:13:46 AM
It's great until one of the crazy broads stabs you.
 
2013-02-13 11:21:12 AM
Are they Mormon?
 
2013-02-13 11:24:41 AM
I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.

To each their own. Off to the bar for my midday drunk and butt dialing.
 
2013-02-13 11:31:55 AM
So, assuming both women get pregnant their children would be both siblings and cousins.

The father would also be both an uncle and a father to both.

Truly a foundation for a solid, well adjusted family.
 
2013-02-13 11:33:09 AM

Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.


I'm picturing two really fat broads, and a skinny little white guy in a wifebeater, so they probably look like how I think they look.
 
2013-02-13 11:38:16 AM

Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.


Jerry Springer with lots of back cleavage is what I'm imagining.
 
2013-02-13 11:38:50 AM
Oh, yeah, this is totally legit.
 
2013-02-13 11:41:25 AM
Problem?
 
2013-02-13 11:47:43 AM

PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.

To each their own. Off to the bar for my midday drunk and butt dialing.


Yeah, women always want their husbands to diddle their little sisters.
 
2013-02-13 12:13:44 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


Sorry you don't believe me but it did happen.
 
2013-02-13 12:16:25 PM
I want a shirtless picture of "Sam" before I'll believe this.

Also, lol, you're not supposed to let mom find out.
 
2013-02-13 12:22:43 PM
pics?
 
2013-02-13 12:23:06 PM

SphericalTime: I want a shirtless picture of "Sam" before I'll believe this.

Also, lol, you're not supposed to let mom find out.


Uhh, I'd prefer we start with fully clothed pictures, for safety's sake.
 
2013-02-13 12:23:43 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Elandriel: The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.

Also, possibly Canadian.

And then she died of cancer.


Cancer of the Butterface.
 
2013-02-13 12:24:56 PM
I would bet serious money that in real life this only happens in trailer parks.
 
2013-02-13 12:25:11 PM
Dear Penthouse,
I never thought it would happen to me...
 
2013-02-13 12:25:11 PM
Sounds like mom is jealous that she was cut out of the act.
 
2013-02-13 12:25:32 PM

Secret Agent X23: Well, you know, two chicks at one time are the fantasy.

Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.



I actually have two female friends who are sharing a boyfriend.   I don't understand it, but they've been doing it for years, and they both seem happy.

Haven't heard any complaints from the guy, either.

*shrugs* Whatever works.
 
2013-02-13 12:25:51 PM
FTFA: She says Alicia won't sleep around now and, maybe, one day she'll marry a handsome man like Sam who will "return the favor"!

I lol'd.
 
2013-02-13 12:26:05 PM
Dear  Heartbroken Mom in Florida :

Let your adult daughters and the adult male in this make their own adult decisions. If everyone is fine with this setup, and is mature enough to not let jealousy get in the way(And plenty of people can and do handle this just fine), then back off and let them live their own lives... Butt out.
 
2013-02-13 12:26:10 PM
Dear PenthouseAbby: I never thought it would happen to me, but...
 
2013-02-13 12:26:15 PM
Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought this would happen to me, but......

Also, did anyone else notice the mom describing her SIL as "attractive and successful?"
 
2013-02-13 12:27:48 PM
Dear Abby: My two daughters are sharing one husband when it comes to sex.

//Hugh Hefner?
 
2013-02-13 12:28:22 PM

The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.


Baby Batter Butterface
Baby Batter Butterface
Baby Batter Butterface
 
2013-02-13 12:28:26 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years



i.chzbgr.com
 
2013-02-13 12:28:29 PM
For those in the "this can't be real camp": I keep an extensive family genealogy.  One of my aunts, way back in the 1930s, married brother A and then proceeded to have all of her kids with brother B.  Of course it never sat well with the Brother family -- group photos always have her excluded.  For me, there's only the problem of "what do you tell the grandchildren and great grandchildren"?
 
2013-02-13 12:28:43 PM
img208.imageshack.us

Finally got his million dollars.
 
2013-02-13 12:28:45 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.


Except 'Dear Abby' of course.
 
2013-02-13 12:28:58 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought this would happen to me, but......

Also, did anyone else notice the mom describing her SIL as "attractive and successful?"


Oh, you bad.
 
2013-02-13 12:29:04 PM

Mikey1969: Dear  Heartbroken Mom in Florida :

Let your adult daughters and the adult male in this make their own adult decisions. If everyone is fine with this setup, and is mature enough to not let jealousy get in the way(And plenty of people can and do handle this just fine), then back off and let them live their own lives... Butt out.


I had a lengthy post typed out for the helicopter parenting thread, clicked this link by mistake, deleted it, and realized it would have been equally appropriate in this thread.
 
2013-02-13 12:29:19 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought this would happen to me, but......

Also, did anyone else notice the mom describing her SIL as "attractive and successful?"


Sounds like the mom wants in.
 
2013-02-13 12:29:46 PM
If my wife needs me to console either her older or younger sisters when their relationships collapse I'm totally ready to go.
 
2013-02-13 12:30:02 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


Well put statement made me chuckle.
 
2013-02-13 12:30:06 PM
Are these the sisters?

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2013-02-13 12:30:15 PM

OtherLittleGuy: TheDumbBlonde: Elandriel: The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.

Also, possibly Canadian.

And then she died of cancer.

Cancer of the Butterface.


It was CanuCancer of the Butterface.
 
2013-02-13 12:30:26 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


...wut?
 
2013-02-13 12:31:17 PM

Car_Ramrod: ...wut?


vasectomy?
 
2013-02-13 12:31:21 PM

dericwater: Are these the sisters?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x581]


Heh.
 
2013-02-13 12:31:51 PM
Was there not a Dear Abby posted here a couple months ago with a somewhat similar set-up, but after the sister got pregnant the husband dumped the wife to marry the sister?
 
2013-02-13 12:31:51 PM

PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.


I for one don't assume it because it's different from a monogamous relationship.

I assume it because we're told that the wife thinks that letting the husband do her sister is somehow going to reduce the chances that he'll "cheat." If this scenario is true and an idea like that is part of it, it would most likely be the husband's idea. It's exactly the sort of argument a guy would get the wife to agree to if he wants to sleep with her sister without sneaking around and which she would agree to if she has self-esteem issues.

If it's actually an open marriage of some sort, that doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that there are circumstances that would be considered cheating, but the whole basis for this goes off in another direction.
 
2013-02-13 12:31:53 PM

The Italian Farker: She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


HAS ANYONE CALLED B.S. ON THIS YET?


miss diminutive: The father would also be both an uncle and a father to both.


surely you know of how STones bassist Bill Wyman divorced his wife, then his son married the dovorced lady, but then Wyman I think married her daughter....so bill wyman's biological son was his father in law, and his new wife's biological mom was also her stepmom and my eyes just went crikey
 
2013-02-13 12:31:54 PM
The best part of that story was the sister's marriage failed because of extra-marital sex.

Open marriages are great, knock yourselves out. But things have a high risk of getting really messy if you're farking a family member, whether biological or in-law.
 
2013-02-13 12:31:56 PM
HEARTBROKEN MOM IN FLORIDA

of course, you are in florida.
 
2013-02-13 12:32:10 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


Best quote of the day...
Love the response.
And yes, he's a great big liar...a lying liar who lies all the time.
 
2013-02-13 12:32:19 PM
Fake but harmless even if real. Many people, myself included, do not see sex in the same way that our parents do. Deceit is evil, casual sex is not. I've always been surprised how needlessly simplistic people can be.

Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity. Evil exists when people exert control over situations and people that they have no authority or consent to exert. They do it through manipulation and deception. Absent these two things, sex is as innocent as a back massage or a tennis match.
 
2013-02-13 12:32:22 PM
I guess the Florida tag is busy farking him too.
 
2013-02-13 12:33:09 PM

Car_Ramrod: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

...wut?


Wut, wut, in the butt.
 
2013-02-13 12:33:32 PM

miss diminutive: So, assuming both women get pregnant their children would be both siblings and cousins.


Many, many years ago, when I was twenty-three
I got married to a widow as pretty as could be
This widow had a grown up daughter, with flowing hair of red,
My father fell in love with her and soon the two were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life.
Now my stepdaughter was my mother, for she was my father's wife.

To complicate the matters more, although it brought me joy,
I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother-in-law to dad,
And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad.
For if he was my uncle, then that also made him brother
To the widow's grown up daughter, who of course was my step-mother.

Father's wife then had a son, who kept them on the run.
And he became my grandson, for he was my daughter's son.
My wife is now my mother's mother and it makes me blue.
Because although she is my wife, she's now my grandma too.
If my wife is my grandmother, then I am her grandchild.
And every time I think of it, It simply drives me wild.

For now I have become The strangest case you ever saw,
As the husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa!
 
2013-02-13 12:33:36 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.


Holy crap, Pocket Ninja's in this thread already!

*runs off to make popcorn*
 
2013-02-13 12:33:56 PM
HEARTBROKEN MOM IN FLORIDA
end of story
 
2013-02-13 12:34:02 PM
I say get an awesome animal sidekick and take that into bed too.

16 of them, in fact.
 
2013-02-13 12:34:13 PM

Secret Agent X23: Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.


A high school friend became a manager at a strip club. A year later he quit and voluntarily committed himself.
 
2013-02-13 12:34:19 PM
Good. One less jerkwad to cook for on holidays. One less birthday to remember.

The only thing better than your kids farking the same person is if they fark each other.
 
2013-02-13 12:35:25 PM
Once upon a time an opportunity arose in my music industry profession to indulge in that fantasy, two on one.  The experience was ... awkward. Everyone willing, but not experienced where to put all the extra arms. And in contrast to pron.
 
2013-02-13 12:35:33 PM
Wait a minute! People tell lies on the internet?
I'm despondent.
 
2013-02-13 12:35:51 PM
Harems are all fun and games, until they all start PMSing at the same time.

/to the Man Cave!!
 
2013-02-13 12:36:18 PM
I have a friend (a real friend, not a Canadian one!) that has an open relationship with her boyfriend...  who has also slept with her identical twin sister, at least one time while my friend was in the same room.

/I had a crush on one of the twins when I was in high school
//I always felt like I missed out by not asking her out.
///Then I found out (15 years afterwards) that she had a kid, and decided that I dodged a bullet.  My teen self would've felt the need to provide for the kid.
 
2013-02-13 12:36:25 PM

oldfarthenry: Wait a minute! People tell lies on the internet?
I'm despondent.


I doubt that very much.
 
2013-02-13 12:36:30 PM
When I was 22 I had sex with a 16yo neighbor and her hot cousin. It wasn't very good.

/legal age is 14 here
/fark you
 
2013-02-13 12:37:05 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-02-13 12:37:09 PM
i1164.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-13 12:37:36 PM

Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.


A pair of daughters, in an open relationship, sharing one man. Spending most nights with one woman, while occasionally spending a night out with her sister. Maybe even leaving work early some days to sneak one in. Maybe he brings up the possibility of a threesome. Imagine, all three of them in bed, sweating, rubbing in a pleasurefest....

aka-img-2.h-img.com

Now imagine their fat.
 
2013-02-13 12:37:49 PM

corronchilejano: When I was 22 I had sex with a 16yo neighbor and her hot cousin. It wasn't very good.

/legal age is 14 here
/fark you


In Florida it would have been legal until you turned 23, then you would have to wait until the 16 year old turned 18.
 
2013-02-13 12:37:53 PM
Fark headline: My husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts

Article text: My current husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts

No dad would be that cool about somebody schtupping both of his daughters.
 
2013-02-13 12:38:18 PM
I say anyone dumbF**k enough to do sh*t like this deserves the inevitable implosion that comes from it, and I hope the double homicide/suicide makes fark in the future with a link back to this thread.
 
2013-02-13 12:38:35 PM
Okay, which one of you fakers sent this in so you could calibrate our BS detectors?
 
2013-02-13 12:38:52 PM

fawlty: FTFA: She says Alicia won't sleep around now and, maybe, one day she'll marry a handsome man like Sam who will "return the favor"!

I lol'd.


Pretending that this is real, how much do you want to bet that that's the point at which Sam is no longer happy with the arrangement?
 
2013-02-13 12:38:53 PM
Open marriage is fine, actually pretty well within established western norms.  The tradition goes back basically forever, though in the early US and contemporary western Europe the second woman would be called a mistress the first wife not being particularly disturbed is not terribly unusual.

What  is  terrifying, unnatural, and against all just laws of god and man, is talking to your parents or step-parents about your sex life after you're married.  Their opportunities and ability to give you any kind of meaningful advice ended long, long ago when you were a teenager.

//Albeit, they could also be lying to her.  That actually sounds like the kind of silly running gag I'd play on a meddling relative if I could get a girlfriend to go along with it.
 
2013-02-13 12:39:01 PM

PreMortem: Secret Agent X23: Well, you know, two chicks at one time are the fantasy.

Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.

You need a /DNRTFA.

And why would it not be happening? I've come across some wild/open relationships.

My last gf wanted me and her ex at the same time. That's what is known as "not happening". And helluva lot less likely than one sister letting the other have sex with her husband.


Not sure if stupid or stupid.

Nothing that is written in the "dear abbey" columns is real. People submit troll stories.
 
2013-02-13 12:39:20 PM

Wendy's Chili: Fark headline: My husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts

Article text: My current husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts

No dad would be that cool about somebody schtupping both of his daughters.


He was speaking the truth, whether or not he was happy about it.
 
2013-02-13 12:39:29 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


- Checks profile
- Notices picture of a Mustang
- ...

Alright, I'll give you the benefit of doubt.  Go on...
 
2013-02-13 12:39:34 PM

miss diminutive: So, assuming both women get pregnant their children would be both siblings and cousins.

The father would also be both an uncle and a father to both.

Truly a foundation for a solid, well adjusted family.


I'm my own grandpa?  (Great song, by the way)

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


Greatest comment of the thread.

Elandriel: The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.

Also, possibly Canadian.


Then this comment happened, which almost caused me to ruin a keyboard.

TheDumbBlonde: Elandriel: The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.

Also, possibly Canadian.

And then she died of cancer.


Then someone topped what I felt was untoppable.


Well played, folks.  Well played.
 
2013-02-13 12:39:35 PM
While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

The mother indicates that the family is otherwise successful in life, so I'm skeptical of this letter.
 
2013-02-13 12:39:49 PM

Publikwerks: Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.

A pair of daughters, in an open relationship, sharing one man. Spending most nights with one woman, while occasionally spending a night out with her sister. Maybe even leaving work early some days to sneak one in. Maybe he brings up the possibility of a threesome. Imagine, all three of them in bed, sweating, rubbing in a pleasurefest....

[aka-img-2.h-img.com image 342x357]

Now imagine theirthey're fat.


Yes, I know
 
2013-02-13 12:40:06 PM

miss diminutive: So, assuming both women get pregnant their children would be both siblings and cousins.

The father would also be both an uncle and a father to both.

Truly a foundation for a solid, well adjusted family.


As opposed to a brother being forced to marry and impregnate his dead brother's widow, which of course is God's Will as set out in The Bible.
 
2013-02-13 12:40:19 PM

Publikwerks: Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.

A pair of daughters, in an open relationship, sharing one man. Spending most nights with one woman, while occasionally spending a night out with her sister. Maybe even leaving work early some days to sneak one in. Maybe he brings up the possibility of a threesome. Imagine, all three of them in bed, sweating, rubbing in a pleasurefest....

[aka-img-2.h-img.com image 342x357]

Now imagine their fat.


lulz
 
2013-02-13 12:40:49 PM

Car_Ramrod: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

...wut?


Must be shooting blanks.
 
m00
2013-02-13 12:40:56 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


Dear Penthouse...
 
2013-02-13 12:41:11 PM
I imagine the father is the most sane man in this particular scenario. Maybe hitting the bottle a little more than usual, but certainly saner than the hubby.

I had a brother with a similar situation, except instead of sisters they were coworkers (and nobody was married except the girl he was having an affair with already). Mom freaked out a bit when she found out. I gotta note, that both girls were sharing drinks at social events because "he said they had to" for some time already.

"Nub, did you know this was happening?"

"Sort of, they aren't hiding it too well."

"Are you gonna say something?"

"Like what, a high-five?"

And somehow she had no problem with one of the girls having an affair already.
 
2013-02-13 12:41:15 PM

ChaoticLimbs: Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity.


You're wrong. Fat girls taste way better.
 
2013-02-13 12:42:22 PM
Plausible.  Consider that the wife would have the husband not bothering her for sex so much, after all, it has only been a month.   The sister, conceivable could be trying out for the team as soon as the manager lets the current QB go.
 
2013-02-13 12:42:29 PM
Teo'd

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The Italian Farker: GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.

Sorry you don't believe me but it did happen.

 
2013-02-13 12:42:38 PM
Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),
 
2013-02-13 12:42:49 PM
It's a big country with a lotta f'd up shiat... This could happen.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:06 PM

Gosling: I say get an awesome animal sidekick and take that into bed too.

16 of them, in fact.


The Aristocrats!
 
2013-02-13 12:43:09 PM

Car_Ramrod: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

...wut?


Hermaphrodite.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:17 PM

PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.

To each their own. Off to the bar for my midday drunk and butt dialing.


For more information see: Dan Savage's Column
 
2013-02-13 12:43:55 PM

jfarkinB: miss diminutive: So, assuming both women get pregnant their children would be both siblings and cousins.

The father would also be both an uncle and a father to both.

Truly a foundation for a solid, well adjusted family.

As opposed to a brother being forced to marry and impregnate his dead brother's widow, which of course is God's Will as set out in The Bible.


I bet you're a blast at parties.
 
2013-02-13 12:45:05 PM

Publikwerks: Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.

A pair of daughters, in an open relationship, sharing one man. Spending most nights with one woman, while occasionally spending a night out with her sister. Maybe even leaving work early some days to sneak one in. Maybe he brings up the possibility of a threesome. Imagine, all three of them in bed, sweating, rubbing in a pleasurefest....

[aka-img-2.h-img.com image 342x357]

Now imagine their fat.


Bravo.
 
2013-02-13 12:45:19 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.

I'm picturing two really fat broads, and a skinny little white guy in a wifebeater, so they probably look like how I think they look.



I'm not getting the whole picture here.I see two fat women glued together with just a skinny white foot sticking out.Maybe my screen is to small.
 
2013-02-13 12:46:06 PM

CheatCommando: A high school friend became a manager at a strip club. A year later he quit and voluntarily committed himself.


No conclusion can be drawn from a single data point.  However, can you imagine being around that many chicks PMSing at the same time?
 
2013-02-13 12:46:08 PM
I can see this happening, I dated a chick who had a younger sister. When I'd go over to their place to party at the end of the night the younger sister would try to get us to just all snuggle up in her big bed. The g/f just had a single bed, and I don't mind spooning. Whenever the younger sister tried this I just kept my mouth shut to see how my gf felt about this and to see how it would play out. It never went down.
 
2013-02-13 12:46:19 PM

Rapmaster2000: It's great until one of the crazy broads stabs you.


/This
 
2013-02-13 12:46:50 PM
I had sex with two sisters at the same time once, but our Mom walked in on us. Awkward!
 
2013-02-13 12:47:33 PM

TheDumbBlonde: jfarkinB: As opposed to a brother being forced to marry and impregnate his dead brother's widow, which of course is God's Will as set out in The Bible.

I bet you're a blast at parties.


If I'm ever invited to one, we'll see.
 
2013-02-13 12:47:33 PM
Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.
 
2013-02-13 12:47:36 PM
Jim_Callahan: Open marriage is fine, actually pretty well within established western norms.  The tradition goes back basically forever, though in the early US and contemporary western Europe the second woman would be called a mistress the first wife not being particularly disturbed is not terribly unusual.

Except that's not an open marriage.  That's a time when women were also without a great deal of their current civil rights and were handed from father/brother to husband.  (Couldn't vote, couldn't hold serious outside employment, couldn't run their own finances, etc.)  Want the litmus test?  Switch the roles and have the wife stepping out on her husband and setting up a her lover in a townhouse a few blocks over and see if everyone is still cool with it.
 
2013-02-13 12:48:12 PM

Publikwerks: Now imagine their fat.


their fat what???  wait...no, don't bother

/yes, I know you already auto-corrected, sorry, but had to
//very funny, BTW!
 
2013-02-13 12:48:15 PM

Publikwerks: Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.

A pair of daughters, in an open relationship, sharing one man. Spending most nights with one woman, while occasionally spending a night out with her sister. Maybe even leaving work early some days to sneak one in. Maybe he brings up the possibility of a threesome. Imagine, all three of them in bed, sweating, rubbing in a pleasurefest....

[aka-img-2.h-img.com image 342x357]

Now imagine their fat.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-13 12:48:21 PM

the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.


Perhaps not as unusual as you think. I'm familiar with several similar situations among people I know. One ended in disaster, with the sisters not speaking to each other, but others continue along fine or ended without major drama.
 
2013-02-13 12:48:54 PM

HMS_Blinkin: Dear Penthouse Forum,

I never thought this would happen to me, but......

Also, did anyone else notice the mom describing her SIL as "attractive and successful?"



Ah, Mom tips her hand and reveals her true issue with this arrangement...
 
2013-02-13 12:49:06 PM

Omnivorous: For those in the "this can't be real camp": I keep an extensive family genealogy.  One of my aunts, way back in the 1930s, married brother A and then proceeded to have all of her kids with brother B.  Of course it never sat well with the Brother family -- group photos always have her excluded.  For me, there's only the problem of "what do you tell the grandchildren and great grandchildren"?


Was brother A a 'man's man' by any chance? (nudge, nudge, NTTAWWT) That was a not uncommon solution in many upper-crust society families, much like teen girls being sent 'abroad' for about 10 months given a certain circumstance.
 
2013-02-13 12:49:25 PM

cgraves67: While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

The mother indicates that the family is otherwise successful in life, so I'm skeptical of this letter.


The mother refers to her "current" husband, but makes no reference to this being other than her daughter's first marriage.

The kid's relationship is more stable than the mother's.

//Also, open marriages aren't all that uncommon.  I know several couples that roll that way and I live in goddamned Texas where even the cows vote Republican and attend church twice a week.  It's really not some unheard-of arrangement.
 
2013-02-13 12:49:31 PM

cgraves67: The mother indicates that the family is otherwise successful in life, so I'm skeptical of this letter.


Depends on what her standard of success is.  Could be just holding down a 20-hr job at the local strip club.
 
2013-02-13 12:49:39 PM
FTA: Melanie is naive to think that encouraging Sam to have a sexual relationship with her sister will discourage him from seeking other partners. Far from it. And as for her wanting to start a family, has she considered what will happen if her husband impregnates Alicia at the same time -- or first?

And? So what?

It sounds more like her daughters are polyamorous but just don't have a word for it. It also sounds like "Dear Abby" hasn't got a clue. Poly is (at least most of the time) ethical non-monogamy. Why "cheat" if you can say to your wife or GF "You know Thatgirl? I kind of like her, would you mind if I took her on a date?" You set ground rules, you talk a lot, you all have happy lives. Actually, one married poly couple I know, the woman got pregnant and they're not entirely sure if it was her husband or her BF who got her pregnant. And, really, they don't care. She's preggers, she's happy, she loves her men, they love her. What's the big deal?
 
2013-02-13 12:50:12 PM
Dear mom,

STFU.

- Your son-in-law twice over
 
2013-02-13 12:50:14 PM
Dear Heart-Broken Mom:

Join in or STFU.
 
2013-02-13 12:51:28 PM

Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.


And did I mention one twin was a dark-eyed brunette, the other was a blue-eyed blonde, and the third was a green-eyed redhead?
 
2013-02-13 12:51:29 PM

Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-13 12:51:44 PM

fawlty: FTFA: She says Alicia won't sleep around now and, maybe, one day she'll marry a handsome man like Sam who will "return the favor"!

I lol'd.


Me too. That is what made me know it was a troll. It is called over-playing one's hand.

Not that this would stop Abby from running with it to get page views.
 
2013-02-13 12:51:56 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Cancer of the Butterface


In the event that I somehow gain musical ability and the motivation to start a band, this will be the name of it.
 
2013-02-13 12:52:04 PM

Bell's Boy: I had sex with two sisters at the same time once, but our Mom walked in on us. Awkward!


Bed not big enough for four?
 
m00
2013-02-13 12:52:49 PM

El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),


Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.
 
2013-02-13 12:53:05 PM

jfarkinB: TheDumbBlonde: jfarkinB: As opposed to a brother being forced to marry and impregnate his dead brother's widow, which of course is God's Will as set out in The Bible.

I bet you're a blast at parties.

If I'm ever invited to one, we'll see.


Not forced.  She can refuse him.  Sorry, your knowledge is less than perfect.
 
2013-02-13 12:53:12 PM
Someone should remind Abby that she died last month.
 
2013-02-13 12:53:13 PM
Trolling Dear Abby or just practicing a story for Dear Penthouse?
 
2013-02-13 12:53:36 PM
Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!
 
2013-02-13 12:54:11 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


Monte Te'o?  You know phone sex doesn't count right?
 
2013-02-13 12:54:28 PM

unchellmatt: It sounds more like her daughters are polyamorous but just don't have a word for it. It also sounds like "Dear Abby" hasn't got a clue.


Maybe, but if the one sister's rationale for agreeing to this is to remove hubby's incentive to cheat, I have to think she's not going into it for any of the right reasons.
 
2013-02-13 12:54:53 PM
cgraves67: While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

Perhaps there are simply more people than you know who don't feel that possession is a necessary or positive part of a romantic relationship.
 
2013-02-13 12:55:35 PM

m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.


ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.
 
2013-02-13 12:56:51 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


We know you aren't telling the truth because on your profile you have a picture of a Mustang, yet you claim youa re Italian.  As we all know, you would have a Trans Am if this were really the case..
 
2013-02-13 12:57:34 PM
Dear Heartbroken Mom in Florida: *coughs into hand*  Where in Florida is this daughter?
 
2013-02-13 12:57:48 PM

Zasteva: cgraves67: While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

Perhaps there are simply more people than you know who don't feel that possession is a necessary or positive part of a romantic relationship.


Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.
 
2013-02-13 12:59:00 PM
Back in high school I worked at a pizza place that had decent looking milf twins as waitresses. I had chance to go out with one of them, but bailed after I found out they already had 3 kids each. I wasn't gonna get hung out to dry at 18.

One of the pervy older guys (think Olaf from 2 Broke Girls) was constantly giving them crap about having a 3-way together. Finally they decided to call his bluff and he chickened out.
 
2013-02-13 12:59:12 PM

oldfarthenry: Wait a minute! People tell lies on the internet?
I'm despondent.


How do we know you aren't lying?
 
2013-02-13 12:59:45 PM
The wife:
thestreetsarecalling.files.wordpress.com

The sister:
images.sodahead.com

The Husband:
t1.gstatic.com

The Mother:
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-13 01:01:01 PM
They can't put anything on the Internet that isn't true. I heard it on the Internet.

/open marriage with extra partner? Believable, probably not as uncommon as people think.
//live in sex buddy who is also your wife's sister? Yeah...no. That's almost as unbelievable as your wife wanting you to have sex with her just turned 18 sister so she can enjoy it without getting pregnant...because contraceptives don't exist apparently so the only way to enjoy sex without getting pregnant is banging your sister's husband.
 
2013-02-13 01:01:03 PM
What's wrong with it as long as its consenting adults, remember?

 
Man+Man

Women+Women

Father+Daughter

Mother+Son

Father+Son

Sisters

Brothers
 
2013-02-13 01:01:03 PM

Unemployedingreenland: Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.

And did I mention one twin was a dark-eyed brunette, the other was a blue-eyed blonde, and the third was a green-eyed redhead?


Gourmet cooks at 18?  Impressive.  Also, sounds like you lived with some skanks.
 
2013-02-13 01:01:26 PM
My sense of boundaries would keep me from being able to do that.
If they were best friends, maybe.  But not sisters.  Just too much room for trouble and I could not get comfortable with it.
 
2013-02-13 01:01:42 PM
When I was 22, I met a girl who was 20, and her sister was 18.  I started dating the 20-year-old shortly thereafter, but we waited a while before we started sleeping together, so that that wouldn't be the driving factor in the relationship.  We made it maybe 3 months.  Anyway, both lived with their mom at the time, and as a result I'd constantly see the 18-year-old around the apartment.  Both of the girls fought constantly, and I tried to stay out of it... and they'd always run to their mom (or call their dad) for support.  But it wasn't long before they started prying me for my input.  Of course, when my g/f decided to rub her sex life in her sister's face, the sister decided she was going to start competing for me, too.  I would walk into the apartment and find her sitting in just a t-shirt, making no move to cover herself up, or catch her coming out of the bathroom and dropping her towel, that sort of thing.  One day, I went over, and naturally she was the only one home... and... well... I am only a man...

of course, the 18-year-old bragged about it, and the 20-year-old broke up with me.  So... I started seeing the younger sister.  Soon, the older one started vying for me again, and it became a contest to see who was banging me on a given night.  It got to the point where they started broadcasting their sexual escapades with me to each other, and they could only get off when they knew the other knew.

Then the 18-year-old decided to do it in front of her sister... and... soon after the two of them were making out... and I was on the outside just watching.  Intently, of course.

Today, they live a life of complete incest - they're lesbians together, without outside people.  It's creepy.  But don't feel bad for me, because their cousin the beautiful swimsuit-model-turned-rockstar found out about it and decided I must be pretty good in bed... And lemme tell ya, even female rock stars have amazing girl groupies...
 
2013-02-13 01:02:12 PM
Meanwhile ...

Dear Penthouse Forum,

My husband doesn't say "good morning" to me every morning like he used to. Is he having an affair?
 
2013-02-13 01:02:46 PM
Heart-Broken, Heart-Broken
You have no complaint
they are what they are
and they ain't what they ain't
so listen up buster, and listen up good
stop wishing for bad luck and climb on that wood
 
2013-02-13 01:02:54 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


Never been to West Virginia, I assume?
 
2013-02-13 01:03:02 PM
F*ck you, Abby. You start out ok, acknowledging that these sisters have different views on relationships. Then you go into judgmental mode, telling mom that she's the only one who hasn't lost her sanity.

THERE IS NOTHING THAT HAPPENS BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS THAT IS WRONG. It's their goddamn business, and they are not immoral for doing whatever the hell they want as long as they aren't lying to or hurting anyone.
 
2013-02-13 01:03:12 PM

Lucidz: Unemployedingreenland: Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.

And did I mention one twin was a dark-eyed brunette, the other was a blue-eyed blonde, and the third was a green-eyed redhead?

Gourmet cooks at 18?  Impressive.  Also, sounds like you lived with some skanks.


They were amazing; they would take the beefaroni out of the can before heating it in the microwave!
 
2013-02-13 01:03:27 PM

noitsnot: We know you aren't telling the truth because on your profile you have a picture of a Mustang, yet you claim youa re Italian. As we all know, you would have a Trans Am if this were really the case..


we also would have accepted:

*members only jacket
*wifebeater as formal wear
*orange skin
*duck face
*shiatty gold figaro chains
*living with Mama
 
2013-02-13 01:03:32 PM
Polyamorous, polygamist, primary/secondary relationships...

What ever happened to the good old days when we just publicly identified such people...

t3.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-13 01:04:06 PM
I've seen (and done) some things man, things that would make Penthouse blush. However, I do believe that this is just another Dear Abby troll letter. I do like the old man's attitude, even if fake.
 
2013-02-13 01:04:33 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.


Human biology is entirely predicated on the assumption that both males and females of our species would have multiple partners.  Certain major elements of male biology are based on the assumption that females will have had another partner within hours or minutes of their current one.

Biology doesn't back monogamy at all, which is what I think you're implying if I'm interpreting the chain of quotes correctly.
 
2013-02-13 01:04:40 PM

reillan: Today, they live a life of complete incest - they're lesbians together, without outside people. It's creepy. But don't feel bad for me, because their cousin the beautiful swimsuit-model-turned-rockstar found out about it and decided I must be pretty good in bed... And lemme tell ya, even female rock stars have amazing girl groupies...


You should expand this to a short story and post it somewhere.
 
2013-02-13 01:05:44 PM
To all of you who are incredulous about this story, and about those who claim to have similar stories.

Estimated rate of open marriages: 1% to 6% of marriages  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_marriage_incidence
Estimated rate of sibling/sibling consensual incest: 2% to 5% of adult population  http://www.mpicc.de/ww/en/pub/forschung/forschungsarbeit/gemeinsame_p r ojekte/inzest/inzest_krim.htm

Assuming no entanglement effects, that puts the estimated number of people who have both open marriages and consensual incest at somewhere between 1 in 5000 and 1 in 333.    There are approximately 58,500,000 married couples in the US.  http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0059.pdf.  That suggests that a conservative estimate of the number of married couples who have engaged in some form of consensual sex with siblings in the US is 11,700.

Keep in mind that for cultural reasons incidents of incest, especially consensual incest, are under reported. Actual incidence rates may be quite higher.

Those numbers suggest that you probably don't personally know anyone in that kind of relationship, but given the population of people who write Dear Abby and the population of people who post on Fark, the odds that at least one person is or has been involved in such a relationship are pretty good.
 
2013-02-13 01:06:21 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


Yea, this totally happened to me too...

My wife, er, Morgan Fairchild, demanded that I deflower her younger sister, er...Heidi Klum, yea, that's what happened.

I protested greatly, but then my wife...Morgan Fairchild invoked the whole "in sickness, in health, in sister relations" clause in our marriage clause...what choice did I have?

Yea, that's the ticket.  And it's true too...or my name isn't Tommy Flanagan.
 
2013-02-13 01:06:25 PM
Lucky farkers POV:

i280.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-13 01:07:23 PM
Dad is in favor of it because hes the one hiding in the closet fapping.
 
2013-02-13 01:07:48 PM

swankywanky: Publikwerks: Now imagine their fat.


No thanks, I would much rather imagine their tits.
 
2013-02-13 01:07:56 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Once upon a time an opportunity arose in my music industry profession to indulge in that fantasy, two on one.  The experience was ... awkward. Everyone willing, but not experienced where to put all the extra arms. And in contrast to pron.


If it was two girls you have them handle each other while you take car of them in a serial fashion.

If it was a guy and a girl, you are to put your hand on the trigger and shoot yourself if you did anything other than the high five to make an A.
 
2013-02-13 01:08:19 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Zasteva: cgraves67: While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

Perhaps there are simply more people than you know who don't feel that possession is a necessary or positive part of a romantic relationship.

Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.


What the story reeks of is childhood sexual abuse and consequent damaged social development.
 
2013-02-13 01:08:20 PM
is story is factual than 'Sam' has the luck that is equivalent to winning the powerball every year.
 
2013-02-13 01:08:56 PM
Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.


That depends... Do you want them to look like Dear Abby's editor?
 
2013-02-13 01:09:11 PM
all I know is this kinda stuff never happens to me.
 
2013-02-13 01:09:20 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


so...you're saying anal right?
 
2013-02-13 01:09:35 PM

Lucidz: Unemployedingreenland: Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.

And did I mention one twin was a dark-eyed brunette, the other was a blue-eyed blonde, and the third was a green-eyed redhead?

Gourmet cooks at 18?  Impressive.  Also, sounds like you lived with some skanks.


Hey, that's my wife you're talking about (well, ex-wife actually - she was too much of a skank in the end).
 
2013-02-13 01:09:51 PM

reillan: When I was 22, I met a girl who was 20, and her sister was 18.  I started dating the 20-year-old shortly thereafter, but we waited a while before we started sleeping together, so that that wouldn't be the driving factor in the relationship.  We made it maybe 3 months.  Anyway, both lived with their mom at the time, and as a result I'd constantly see the 18-year-old around the apartment.  Both of the girls fought constantly, and I tried to stay out of it... and they'd always run to their mom (or call their dad) for support.  But it wasn't long before they started prying me for my input.  Of course, when my g/f decided to rub her sex life in her sister's face, the sister decided she was going to start competing for me, too.  I would walk into the apartment and find her sitting in just a t-shirt, making no move to cover herself up, or catch her coming out of the bathroom and dropping her towel, that sort of thing.  One day, I went over, and naturally she was the only one home... and... well... I am only a man...

of course, the 18-year-old bragged about it, and the 20-year-old broke up with me.  So... I started seeing the younger sister.  Soon, the older one started vying for me again, and it became a contest to see who was banging me on a given night.  It got to the point where they started broadcasting their sexual escapades with me to each other, and they could only get off when they knew the other knew.

Then the 18-year-old decided to do it in front of her sister... and... soon after the two of them were making out... and I was on the outside just watching.  Intently, of course.

Today, they live a life of complete incest - they're lesbians together, without outside people.  It's creepy.  But don't feel bad for me, because their cousin the beautiful swimsuit-model-turned-rockstar found out about it and decided I must be pretty good in bed... And lemme tell ya, even female rock stars have amazing girl groupies...


You left out that you're a billionaire with a 12 inch dick and that you now view supermodel rockstars as beneath you. You won't bed anyone in a one night stand who isn't on Forbes.  Your corrections to ancient texts caused the pope to retire and you achieve Bodhisattva daily while in the back of your stretch limousine just to pass the time.

You are rad.  You. Are. Rad.

www.achewood.com
 
2013-02-13 01:11:03 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Lucidz: Unemployedingreenland: Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.

And did I mention one twin was a dark-eyed brunette, the other was a blue-eyed blonde, and the third was a green-eyed redhead?

Gourmet cooks at 18?  Impressive.  Also, sounds like you lived with some skanks.

They were amazing; they would take the beefaroni out of the can before heating it in the microwave!


Don't forget adding dried parsley for garnish! (Its more about presentation than consistency.)
 
2013-02-13 01:11:18 PM

Secret Agent X23: PreMortem: And why would it not be happening? I've come across some wild/open relationships.

Actually, it could happen, and maybe it's happening here, but "Melanie's argument is that Sam is less likely to cheat given this situation" doesn't quite ring true. If she doesn't want him to cheat... then... wut???


It's not cheating if the players agree to break the rules.  Ask Congress.
 
2013-02-13 01:11:25 PM

Jim_Callahan: Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.

Human biology is entirely predicated on the assumption that both males and females of our species would have multiple partners.  Certain major elements of male biology are based on the assumption that females will have had another partner within hours or minutes of their current one.



You want to show some references on that?  For humans, not some monkey species you read about.
 
2013-02-13 01:12:27 PM

spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.


A green vagina?  Eeewww!
 
2013-02-13 01:12:56 PM
I have seen a few examples of open marriages / relationships and they all ended badly.

I had a friend in college who was dating a woman for a few years and she started to have an affair behind his back. He found out and after a brief fight, he agreed to let her bang this other guy while still dating him. Then one time all three were hanging out together and ended up in the threesome which created a lot of awkwardness and ended everything.

Another friend of mine got divorced, started a dating a woman who was also divorced and previously into the swinging scene. They ended up getting married and meeting other couples for sex fairly frequently. Usually it was the same two couples that they knew were safe and into the same things they were. After a while jealousy broke out between them all and they could no longer be friends and everything stopped.

The third experience was with another married couple who simply said they tried it for a short while, but the husband always felt like he was getting the bad deal in the exchange (fat, ugly wives of other people in exchange for his wife).

Anyway, as out-of-the-norm as it is, I don't think it is abnormal. I just don't think it works in a lot of cases and things get messy.
 
2013-02-13 01:12:57 PM

ChaoticLimbs: Fake but harmless even if real. Many people, myself included, do not see sex in the same way that our parents do. Deceit is evil, casual sex is not. I've always been surprised how needlessly simplistic people can be.

Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity. Evil exists when people exert control over situations and people that they have no authority or consent to exert. They do it through manipulation and deception. Absent these two things, sex is as innocent as a back massage or a tennis match.


I'm currently reading "The righteous mind : why good people are divided by politics and religion" by Jonathan Haidt.  He argues that moral systems are based on six foundations (care, Fairness, liberty, loyalty, respect, and sanctity), and that will all morality systems are based on these six foundations, different morality systems stress some foundations more than others.  One of the big ideas in his book is that liberal Westeral morality puts great emphasis on the care/harm foundation but almost no emphasis on all on sanctity.

I'm pretty sure he would say that your argument was a good example of putting lots of emphasis on the care/harm foundation and none at all on the concept of sanctity.

Anyway, you might want to give it a read if you have the time.
 
2013-02-13 01:13:19 PM
I came close to this sort of "perfect fantasy."

I was still young, and there was this kinda hot in a crazy bad way girl named Jennifer. Like most of the other girls of the Cola Wars era. Plenty of Jennifer class girls running around causing no end of trouble.

So, we were dating for a while, and the whole sex issue came up. Jennifer said she'd let me bone her, but to do that, I had to bone her sister first. Being a horny and really very stupid teenage punk, I thought this was a great idea. A fantastic idea. A twoferone deal is what every teenage boy dreams of, right? RIGHT? The price of admission into a Jennifer receptacle seemed easy enough. Living the dream. It was almost like a soft drink commercial. Nothing could go wrong...

WRONG!!!

Enter Christina. Another common nameplate for the Cola Wars era model of teenage girl.

Christina was a mongoloid with a mustache bigger and bushier than my own, and black brillo pad like hair going from fingertip to shoulder. And probably farther. **Shudder**

At that moment, I created an entirely new dating rule and that  is that I do not date or screw around with women that have a neck larger than mine own. I flew out of the house at pert near the speed of sound, snagging my elbow on the metal latch for the screen door, tearing the skin away, and needing about a baker's dozen worth of stitches. I threw a leg over my motorbike, reached down and whammy jammied the screw driver jammed into where the shifter lever used to be, brought the bike to life with a roar that was like a dump truck full of industrial scrap metal was being poured into a woodchipper, and vacated the premises so quickly that everything went all red shifty all around me.

Jennifer dumped me for being an insensitive dick, but that was OK. I met a red haired punk gal named Colbi, a girl that taught me the hard way that girls can be the aggressors in sexual congress. It was the first and last time that I have ever been branded. I miss you Colbi.
 
2013-02-13 01:14:06 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


LMFAO
 
2013-02-13 01:14:31 PM

Trivia Jockey: Abby's response to this should have simply been "Stop lying".


Why would Abby out herself?
 
2013-02-13 01:15:13 PM
i'm ok you're ok
 
2013-02-13 01:17:14 PM

Jim_Callahan: Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.

Human biology is entirely predicated on the assumption that both males and females of our species would have multiple partners.  Certain major elements of male biology are based on the assumption that females will have had another partner within hours or minutes of their current one.

Biology doesn't back monogamy at all, which is what I think you're implying if I'm interpreting the chain of quotes correctly.


What a load of manure and an excuse for bad behavior   As civilization expands, the needs and rules of the old ways diminish. Cavemen used to club women over the head and rape them.  Romans used slaves as sex toys or modes of vicious entertainment.  The concept of a biological need for procreation is based solely on the need to perpetuate the species and preservation of human kind.  So unless you're bare backing every ho-bag you roofy into getting horizontal, you're still denying the so called base desires of your innate "biology".  

Besides which, with overpopulation, increased diversity among races, etc, there is no need for a biological multi-partner sexual drive.  My assumption is that every time you have a "base instinct" to stone a man to death for being a douchenozzle does not cause you to do so, as society, ya know, frowns on it...

So take your stupid weak ass argument and go justify it somewhere else.  You want to be a slut, do so.  Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code is driving you to spread your man-seed to the interior of inexpensive truck stop condoms.
 
2013-02-13 01:17:30 PM
Damn, some people have really open relationships with their parents, huh? Who talks about this shiat with their mom??
 
2013-02-13 01:17:36 PM
My boyfriend keeps telling me to get a girlfriend.

/what?
 
2013-02-13 01:18:05 PM

Unemployedingreenland: Lucidz: Unemployedingreenland: Unemployedingreenland: Well, when I was newly married for the first time, my then wife's younger twin sisters moved in for a short stay.  They were 18 years old, and both were bikini model former gymnasts with a peculiar form of OCD that made them want to keep our house spotless.  They were also gourmet cooks, and they practically couldn't live without (ahem) something in their mouths at all times, which kept them blissfully quiet.  They were extremely competitive about everything too, so it was always "BJ contest this, and BJ contest that" around the house.  Best part was the wifey insisted I deflower both of them.  Boy those were the days.

And did I mention one twin was a dark-eyed brunette, the other was a blue-eyed blonde, and the third was a green-eyed redhead?

Gourmet cooks at 18?  Impressive.  Also, sounds like you lived with some skanks.

Hey, that's my wife you're talking about (well, ex-wife actually - she was too much of a skank in the end).


I hope you found someone cool enough that you can mark down the past experiences as experiences, and just enjoy a stable relationship. (I mean that!)
 
2013-02-13 01:18:30 PM
My neighbors are four women in a group relationship. One is a blatant butch, but the others look like any other woman you see living in a suburban house. They have three children between them. I haven't asked how the sleeping arrangements work, but have definitely wondered.
 
2013-02-13 01:18:42 PM
Abby's comments, The Mom's concern, The Butt hurt 'that never happened' crowd..

All taking their own relationship frustrations out on people that have what they
only dream of, but keep themselves from ever really experiencing.

Too see so many people selling themselves short of what Love is capable of....
Instead focusing on jealousy, and insisting that everyone be as miserable as them
holding up some silly notion of morality when it comes to Sex and Sexuality.

It's Sad... It really is.

Love yourself, Be open with yourself, on then can you really love others.

If you can do this ....You'll be surprised what can happen.
 
2013-02-13 01:19:54 PM

The Italian Farker: GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.

Sorry you don't believe me but it did happen.


Same thing happened to me, but then I woke up.
 
2013-02-13 01:21:51 PM

The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.


Butterface is right:

l2.yimg.com
 
2013-02-13 01:23:11 PM

macadamnut: ChaoticLimbs: Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity.

You're wrong. Fat girls taste way better.



dig in...
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-02-13 01:23:22 PM
Many years ago, my cousin insisted I fist him and his sister.

What could I do?

I killed them both and ate the bodies.
 
2013-02-13 01:24:03 PM
My girlfriend has only brothers, so I has a sad.

\she does have a couple of 20-something daughters, though...
 
2013-02-13 01:24:44 PM

ChaoticLimbs: Fake but harmless even if real. Many people, myself included, do not see sex in the same way that our parents do. Deceit is evil, casual sex is not. I've always been surprised how needlessly simplistic people can be.

Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity. Evil exists when people exert control over situations and people that they have no authority or consent to exert. They do it through manipulation and deception. Absent these two things, sex is as innocent as a back massage or a tennis match.


Sex is evil when two people commit to each other, and then one steps out on the other.

*The "act of sex" is not evil in itself
 
2013-02-13 01:25:30 PM
cgraves67: While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

Zasteva:Perhaps there are simply more people than you know who don't feel that possession is a necessary or positive part of a romantic relationship.


Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.

No, I agree with his first sentence. This is a diversion from the norm. My problem is with him defining that a dysfunctional, which in my experience simply isn't true.

Dysfunction happens primarily when people aren't true to their own natures. Most people aren't able to override their jealousy and fear of losing someone. But some people are. That's a sign of civilized (or enlightened if you prefer) behavior, overcoming one's fear with reason and compassion.

For those who aren't able to overcome jealousy and fear, a monogamous relationship might work better. But only if the male can override his biological drive to procreate with multiple partners; or in the rare cases where he doesn't really have that drive.

But for those who can override that, a monogamous relationship may actually be more challenging, since it may require both people to sublimate healthy sexual urges toward other people they love while not providing any actually benefit to the partnership.

Also, what makes you think that procreation and success of offspring are challenged by this circumstance? Biologically speaking, doesn't it maximize both the male and female outcome for reproduction and success of offspring?
 
2013-02-13 01:25:36 PM
the only reason I think it's fake is it is on Dear Abby, not that it doesn't happen.
 
2013-02-13 01:25:39 PM

Mikey1969: Dear  Heartbroken Mom in Florida :

Let your adult daughters and the adult male in this make their own adult decisions. If everyone is fine with this setup, and is mature enough to not let jealousy get in the way(And plenty of people can and do handle this just fine), then back off and let them live their own lives... Butt out.


Have you learned nothing from Fark? This will end up in a courtroom and/or Dr. Phil Show.
 
2013-02-13 01:25:55 PM
GAT_00:
The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


I dunno man, he's Italian.  They do some shiat over there.
 
2013-02-13 01:26:23 PM

reillan: When I was 22, I met a girl who was 20, and her sister was 18.  I started dating the 20-year-old shortly thereafter, but we waited a while before we started sleeping together, so that that wouldn't be the driving factor in the relationship.  We made it maybe 3 months.  Anyway, both lived with their mom at the time, and as a result I'd constantly see the 18-year-old around the apartment.  Both of the girls fought constantly, and I tried to stay out of it... and they'd always run to their mom (or call their dad) for support.  But it wasn't long before they started prying me for my input.  Of course, when my g/f decided to rub her sex life in her sister's face, the sister decided she was going to start competing for me, too.  I would walk into the apartment and find her sitting in just a t-shirt, making no move to cover herself up, or catch her coming out of the bathroom and dropping her towel, that sort of thing.  One day, I went over, and naturally she was the only one home... and... well... I am only a man...

of course, the 18-year-old bragged about it, and the 20-year-old broke up with me.  So... I started seeing the younger sister.  Soon, the older one started vying for me again, and it became a contest to see who was banging me on a given night.  It got to the point where they started broadcasting their sexual escapades with me to each other, and they could only get off when they knew the other knew.

Then the 18-year-old decided to do it in front of her sister... and... soon after the two of them were making out... and I was on the outside just watching.  Intently, of course.

Today, they live a life of complete incest - they're lesbians together, without outside people.  It's creepy.  But don't feel bad for me, because their cousin the beautiful swimsuit-model-turned-rockstar found out about it and decided I must be pretty good in bed... And lemme tell ya, even female rock stars have amazing girl groupies...


Excellent post.
 
2013-02-13 01:27:14 PM
After some extensive investigation, the true identity of the sisters has been revealed:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-13 01:27:52 PM
My wife has dreams I'm cheating on her and she gets mad at me in real life.

So I usually say, "well if you're already mad at me I should just cheat!"
 
2013-02-13 01:28:11 PM

Wendy's Chili: Fark headline: My husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts

Article text: My current husband says any man who would refuse this "set-up" would be nuts

No dad would be that cool about somebody schtupping both of his daughters.


could be a step dad.
 
2013-02-13 01:29:30 PM
Real story:

I had a very physical relationship with girlfriend (23) in college who also had a very hot younger sister (21). On a few drunken occasions the younger sis had given me all the signs that all I had to do was ask. I, being an honest man, told my girlfriend what was going on and in no uncertain termss was told:

You sleep with my sister and I'll cut your d*ck off.

Cue me running for the horizon. I knew they were crazy and should have knowwn better.
 
2013-02-13 01:29:52 PM

Drakuun: Abby's comments, The Mom's concern, The Butt hurt 'that never happened' crowd..

All taking their own relationship frustrations out on people that have what they
only dream of, but keep themselves from ever really experiencing.

Too see so many people selling themselves short of what Love is capable of....
Instead focusing on jealousy, and insisting that everyone be as miserable as them
holding up some silly notion of morality when it comes to Sex and Sexuality.

It's Sad... It really is.

Love yourself, Be open with yourself, on then can you really love others.

If you can do this ....You'll be surprised what can happen.


The problem is, if you stick around fark long enough... You get these people who come and go, sometimes TF'ers, who claim to have these "insane experiences".  They have a great marriage, they swing, they have sex with beautiful 20 year olds, etc.  They are living the dream.  Of course they never have any pictures of themselves, or of their "conquests" because "they like their privacy".  (That doesn't stop them from constantly postbombing penthouse forum ready stories.)

Eventually some determined person will track down who these people are and post pictures.  Without fail they are hideous wildebeasts who wouldn't get into any club where the doorman wasn't blind.  Also without fail, as soon as the pics are posted and the reality comes out, someone gets banned and the fatty swingers with the exotic lifestyle just... Dissappear.

Or someone gets beaten up and post pics and the husband buys them a laptop to shut them up... (Went old school there)
 
2013-02-13 01:30:27 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.


Paul Bernardo?
 
2013-02-13 01:32:12 PM

swankywanky: Publikwerks: Now imagine their fat.

their fat what???  wait...no, don't bother

/yes, I know you already auto-corrected, sorry, but had to
//very funny, BTW!


In fact, it works either way.

/Both should come with complimentary bleach, however.
 
2013-02-13 01:33:35 PM

PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.



It's probably not that people doubt that these different types of relationships exist, it's that a parent of someone in one of those relationships would write a Dear Abby letter about it.


Also:
"Mydaughters are attractive young women, both doing well in their professional careers. "Melanie," who is 27, is married to "Sam," an extremely attractive and successful man. "

So, the writer is a Fark filter.
 
2013-02-13 01:34:11 PM
Wonder what the girls and dad would say if she asked to join in.
 
2013-02-13 01:35:07 PM
Really no one posted this yet?

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-02-13 01:35:09 PM

Lucidz: Jim_Callahan: Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.

Human biology is entirely predicated on the assumption that both males and females of our species would have multiple partners.  Certain major elements of male biology are based on the assumption that females will have had another partner within hours or minutes of their current one.

Biology doesn't back monogamy at all, which is what I think you're implying if I'm interpreting the chain of quotes correctly.

What a load of manure and an excuse for bad behavior   As civilization expands, the needs and rules of the old ways diminish. Cavemen used to club women over the head and rape them.  Romans used slaves as sex toys or modes of vicious entertainment.  The concept of a biological need for procreation is based solely on the need to perpetuate the species and preservation of human kind.  So unless you're bare backing every ho-bag you roofy into getting horizontal, you're still denying the so called base desires of your innate "biology".  

Besides which, with overpopulation, increased diversity among races, etc, there is no need for a biological multi-partner sexual drive.  My assumption is that every time you have a "base instinct" to stone a man to death for being a douchenozzle does not cause you to do so, as society, ya know, frowns on it...

So take your stupid weak ass argument and go justify it somewhere else.  You want to be a slut, do so.  Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code is driving you to spread your man-seed to the interior of inexpensive truck stop condoms.


It doesn't even have to go that far since "Biology" backs monogamy in a tribal setting a lot more rationally than it does promiscuity. I'm sure some dimwit will bark some nonsense about genetic diversity. Yeah those 6 guys in the tribe are diverse, and when she constantly farks them all their sperm suit up and do battle over her egg, and in order for her to give birth that sperm has to fight a constant defensive battle against all comers.

Haha I said all comers.

Anyway, no, the biology thing is reserved for people who don't understand biology, society or just want to fark around on their SO's.
 
2013-02-13 01:35:27 PM

PreMortem: To each their own. Off to the bar for my midday drunk and butt dialing.


The term "butt dialing" always has me envisioning a woman who's fetish involves having her butt "dialed" like a rotary phone...and then I realize how old she would have to be to know what a rotary phone is. Then I sadly put away the Kleenex box and the hand lotion and try to cheer myself up by yelling at the kids on my lawn.
 
2013-02-13 01:35:41 PM

Crapinoleum: spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.

A green vagina?  Eeewww!


You've never had the special on St. Patrick's Day?
 
2013-02-13 01:36:57 PM

Zasteva: Also, what makes you think that procreation and success of offspring are challenged by this circumstance? Biologically speaking, doesn't it maximize both the male and female outcome for reproduction and success of offspring?


The females have to compete for the benefit/protection of the male, limiting the chance of success for their offspring.
 
2013-02-13 01:37:45 PM
so many stories that screams "Pictures needed" in here.

But alas, thread disappoints.
 
2013-02-13 01:38:28 PM

spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.


Read Asimov (somewhere in the "Foundation" trilogy) about " . . .the difference between the slippery friction of two mucous membranes".

/No, not a pretty image, is it?
 
2013-02-13 01:38:38 PM

relcec: the only reason I think it's fake is it is on Dear Abby, not that it doesn't happen.


Quoted for truth.
 
2013-02-13 01:41:12 PM

Crapinoleum: spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.

A green vagina?  Eeewww!


I know, right? Who'd ever want any of that?:

encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-13 01:41:16 PM

Lucidz: The wife:
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The sister:
[images.sodahead.com image 350x262]

The Husband:
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The Mother:
[t1.gstatic.com image 280x180]


You are not a nice person.
 
2013-02-13 01:41:23 PM

Trivia Jockey: Abby's response to this should have simply been "Stop lying".


Abby's response to this should have been: "Why are you asking me?  I'm dead and trying to get some shuteye here.  Please close the crypt door on the way out."
 
2013-02-13 01:43:37 PM
Ok...my advice on the assumption it's actually a legit story.

I think perhaps the sisters' father fooled around...a lot and over a period of years.  Probably a lot more than mom knew, and the daughters became aware of it at some point.  He was likely a good guy, loved his daughters and treated them well.  The marriage was very rocky, lots of fights for obvious reasons.   "My current husband" implies that mom eventually divorced their dad too, perhaps because she finally caught him cheating, and she later remarried.  New husband is an ok guy, but probably spent too much time staring at the daughters while they were in the pool.

That explains the "current" husband's remarks (he's all but saying "I'd like to hit it too" though he probably wouldn't), the daughters' casual attitude toward sex, why the divorced daughter had problems staying faithful in her marriage, and why the daughter that is married seems oddly ok with her husband banging her sister (convinced herself it was ok, better he get it from someone she knows to be disease free, he's a good provider otherwise, etc., etc.).  As for the guy banging both sisters...he's no saint.  How he manages to justify what he's doing as ok is anyone's guess, but truth be told the married daughter picked one that was like dear old dad.

This will absolutely not end well.  I have serious doubts that divorced daughter will ever find a guy to settle down with and she'll be back time and again long term for some brother-in-law action.  Married daughter will get jealous once she has kids and I can foresee a time the two daughters aren't on speaking terms.  Life isn't a Robert Heinlein novel and Lazarus Long doesn't live here or in the future.  Time for divorced daughter to move on and get her own place...say three states over.
 
2013-02-13 01:44:29 PM

Dragonflew: Someone should remind Abby that she died last month.


Dear Abby, I have a secret, I write letters to dead people.
 
2013-02-13 01:44:54 PM

Ned Stark: Good. One less jerkwad to cook for on holidays. One less birthday to remember.

The only thing better than your kids farking the same person is if they fark each other.


Heh. "Ned Stark"
 
2013-02-13 01:45:05 PM

traylor: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

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Seconded.  I've known (in both senses) loads of swingers/"open marriage" folks in my time.  I check up on folks every couple of years, and every one of them is divorced within 5 years of being involved.

Every.
One.
Of.
Them.

/That's not to say there aren't very persuasive arguments for the benefits of non-monogamous relationships
//Very persuasive, but for the fact they don't work.
 
2013-02-13 01:45:31 PM
I can see it happening. Mrs cmraman and I have been married for 30 years and swinging for the past 10. The closest I came to this was getting dragged off the dance floor one night by a woman who introduced me to her sister. We chatted for a while and I took the sister off to a room for a wild time. The next time I saw the first woman again, I asked her to play and she declined saying that she doesn't play with people who have played with her sister. My first threesome with two women was with a friend's wife and girlfriend so maybe that's closer. I used to think all the crap in Penthouse Forum was crap but after 70 different partners in 10 years I think I could write an entire edition.

/Thank God Amazon sells condoms by the ton...
//Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?
 
2013-02-13 01:47:05 PM

Lucidz: Drakuun: Abby's comments, The Mom's concern, The Butt hurt 'that never happened' crowd..

All taking their own relationship frustrations out on people that have what they
only dream of, but keep themselves from ever really experiencing.

Too see so many people selling themselves short of what Love is capable of....
Instead focusing on jealousy, and insisting that everyone be as miserable as them
holding up some silly notion of morality when it comes to Sex and Sexuality.

It's Sad... It really is.

Love yourself, Be open with yourself, on then can you really love others.

If you can do this ....You'll be surprised what can happen.

The problem is, if you stick around fark long enough... You get these people who come and go, sometimes TF'ers, who claim to have these "insane experiences".  They have a great marriage, they swing, they have sex with beautiful 20 year olds, etc.  They are living the dream.  Of course they never have any pictures of themselves, or of their "conquests" because "they like their privacy".  (That doesn't stop them from constantly postbombing penthouse forum ready stories.)

Eventually some determined person will track down who these people are and post pictures.  Without fail they are hideous wildebeasts who wouldn't get into any club where the doorman wasn't blind.  Also without fail, as soon as the pics are posted and the reality comes out, someone gets banned and the fatty swingers with the exotic lifestyle just... Dissappear.

Or someone gets beaten up and post pics and the husband buys them a laptop to shut them up... (Went old school there)


My advice for the Wildebeests of Fark.

I learned this in my late teenaged years.

See, I was ugly. And I do mean ugly. Oogly. Make a statue cry, stop a clock, make water curdle, the sort of ugly that could make a sea hag vomit.

It is very important that you get a motorcycle. (Which will probably make you uglier in the long run) Get a motorcycle and become the silent type. SAY NOTHING! If you say nothing around a girl, the vacuum of sound will cause all of the usual girly insanity to take place in between their ears. Girls have to be talked to in order for them to validate their own existence. If you say nothing, nothing at all, girls will begin to imagine all sorts of conversations between you and them. If they talk to you, give a non-committal grunt. Eventually, they will construct elaborate fantasy conversations of all of the things they would wish for you to say, have arguments with you, and romantic gushing apologies, all of which never actually happen, but because of the silence, they'll just babble on inside their own skull with all of the things they think they need to hear.

Motorcycles and girls are awesome. There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, quite like feeling two perky points of pressure stabbing into your back and two arms clinched tight around you as you goose the gas.

If by some odd chance you feel three perky points of pressure poking into you, two in the back and one in the backside, IT'S A TRAP! Dump your passenger now and consume copious amounts of alcohol to kill any recently formed braincells that might contain the memory.

After a few hours of riding with you on said motorcycle, the girl already knows you in a biblical sense, and, as an extra added bonus, are properly vibrated and ready to go. Score! After all of the things she thinks she heard you say, and the hours of stimulation to her girly bits, it doesn't matter if you are ugly like a constipated honey badger... You are gettin' some. And how. Bow chicka bow.
 
2013-02-13 01:47:45 PM

cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?


Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.
 
2013-02-13 01:48:21 PM
Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.

Jim_Callahan:Human biology is entirely predicated on the assumption that both males and females of our species would have multiple partners.  Certain major elements of male biology are based on the assumption that females will have had another partner within hours or minutes of their current one.

Biology doesn't back monogamy at all, which is what I think you're implying if I'm interpreting the chain of quotes correctly.


Lucidz: What a load of manure and an excuse for bad behavior   As civilization expands, the needs and rules of the old ways diminish. Cavemen used to club women over the head and rape them.  Romans used slaves as sex toys or modes of vicious entertainment.  The concept of a biological need for procreation is based solely on the need to perpetuate the species and preservation of human kind.  So unless you're bare backing every ho-bag you roofy into getting horizontal, you're still denying the so called base desires of your innate "biology".

I think you misunderstood the argument. Galloping was saying that biological urges drive people to monogamy. Jim was saying that actually biological urges drive people to against monogamy. He wasn't arguing for or against their behavior.

That said, why is the behavior of the sisters and husband in the story "bad"? Or uncivilized, for that matter?

Because I would agree with you about the changes in human behavior due to civilization, but I'd point out that those examples lead generally toward greater freedom, especially for women.

How does "2 sisters having sex with one of their husbands is bad" equate to greater freedom? How does it reflect a more civilized point of view?

Lucidz:Besides which, with overpopulation, increased diversity among races, etc, there is no need for a biological multi-partner sexual drive.  My assumption is that every time you have a "base instinct" to stone a man to death for being a douchenozzle does not cause you to do so, as society, ya know, frowns on it...

Are you trying to draw connect stoning people to death to his point about biological urges as a way to show that both are uncivilized?

I'm pretty sure stoning as a punishment was a creation of earlier civilization, not a biological drive. And yes, I think most of us will agree that civilization has moved past that. In your case, as far as non-violent condemnation of people who are having sex outside of their marriage, rather than actually stoning them. But some of us would like to move even further; all the way to "who cares it's their business best of luck to them".

So take your stupid weak ass argument and go justify it somewhere else.  You want to be a slut, do so.  Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code is driving you to spread your man-seed to the interior of inexpensive truck stop condoms.

Hmm... rants and personal insults really are the epitome of civilized behavior, aren't they?
 
2013-02-13 01:49:18 PM
Back in my early 20's I dated a girl that I worked with.  Pretty hot, nice ass, the whole 9.  Oh, and she had TONS of daddy issues (what can I say?  Don't judge me!).

Anyways, we were driving home from work one day (we worked the pre-load shift at UPS) and she asks out of the blue "Ever seen two sisters fark around?", to which I nearly ran off the exit ramp into the grass.  I said no, and she responded "Well... do you want to?" to which I responded "Does a bear shiat in the woods?"

Anyways, flash forward 3 weeks, I haven't heard anything more about it and had accepted that it would never happen (since that's not really a tree you bark up if you want to maintain a relationship, even if she is as farked up as she was).  We start drinking Bud Ice at her house because we're classy as Hell when her sister walks in.  She asks her sister if she wants to drink and so she joins us.  After five minutes, she goes "to the bathroom" and comes back out wearing only a plaid skirt and tank top with no bra and proceeds to pour her beer on her foobies and asks her sister to lick them clean.

Long story short, after 2 contests to see who had the... ahem... deepest throat... along with other ... games... I asked her in the middle of the throes of "love" if her sister could wear the pearl necklace I was about to buy.  Apparently  THIS was the straw that broke the camels back, because she spent the next 30 minutes sobbing hysterically.  So after trying to figure out what was going on, I finished my job, pulled her off and bought her the necklace and then rolled over and went to bed with a smile on my face.

We broke up 5 days later.

/would do it again in a heartbeat
 
2013-02-13 01:50:09 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


Ok, maybe she didn't SAY she wanted me to bang her sister, but you could totally see it in the way she cooked scrambled eggs at for breakfast that that's what she was saying.
 
2013-02-13 01:50:38 PM

Veteran of the Cola Wars: SAY NOTHING! If you say nothing around a girl, the vacuum of sound will cause all of the usual girly insanity to take place in between their ears. Girls have to be talked to in order for them to validate their own existence. If you say nothing, nothing at all, girls will begin to imagine all sorts of conversations between you and them. If they talk to you, give a non-committal grunt. Eventually, they will construct elaborate fantasy conversations of all of the things they would wish for you to say, have arguments with you, and romantic gushing apologies, all of which never actually happen, but because of the silence, they'll just babble on inside their own skull with all of the things they think they need to hear.


Sad, but so very true.
 
2013-02-13 01:52:07 PM

FuryOfFirestorm: Crapinoleum: spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.

A green vagina?  Eeewww!

I know, right? Who'd ever want any of that?:


Regardless, its still pink in the middle
 
2013-02-13 01:52:07 PM

Omnivorous: For those in the "this can't be real camp": I keep an extensive family genealogy.  One of my aunts, way back in the 1930s, married brother A and then proceeded to have all of her kids with brother B.  Of course it never sat well with the Brother family -- group photos always have her excluded.  For me, there's only the problem of "what do you tell the grandchildren and great grandchildren"?


Was Brother A gay or infertile? It would take careful planning to make sure that if she was banging both brothers that all her kids were only Brother B's kids.

/I'm assuming no access to condoms circa 1930.
 
2013-02-13 01:52:33 PM

traylor: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 250x250]


You're absolutely right; those fambly valyers are all BS (NSFW)
 
2013-02-13 01:52:51 PM

miss diminutive: So, assuming both women get pregnant their children would be both siblings and cousins.

The father would also be both an uncle and a father to both.

Truly a foundation for a solid, well adjusted family.


hey, a lot of kids have an Uncle Daddy.
 
2013-02-13 01:53:25 PM

bismark189: Back in my early 20's I dated a girl that I worked with.  Pretty hot, nice ass, the whole 9.  Oh, and she had TONS of daddy issues (what can I say?  Don't judge me!).

Anyways, we were driving home from work one day (we worked the pre-load shift at UPS) and she asks out of the blue "Ever seen two sisters fark around?", to which I nearly ran off the exit ramp into the grass.  I said no, and she responded "Well... do you want to?" to which I responded "Does a bear shiat in the woods?"

Anyways, flash forward 3 weeks, I haven't heard anything more about it and had accepted that it would never happen (since that's not really a tree you bark up if you want to maintain a relationship, even if she is as farked up as she was).  We start drinking Bud Ice at her house because we're classy as Hell when her sister walks in.  She asks her sister if she wants to drink and so she joins us.  After five minutes, she goes "to the bathroom" and comes back out wearing only a plaid skirt and tank top with no bra and proceeds to pour her beer on her foobies and asks her sister to lick them clean.

Long story short, after 2 contests to see who had the... ahem... deepest throat... along with other ... games... I asked her in the middle of the throes of "love" if her sister could wear the pearl necklace I was about to buy.  Apparently  THIS was the straw that broke the camels back, because she spent the next 30 minutes sobbing hysterically.  So after trying to figure out what was going on, I finished my job, pulled her off and bought her the necklace and then rolled over and went to bed with a smile on my face.

We broke up 5 days later.

/would do it again in a heartbeat


Now THIS is a completely plausible scenario.
 
2013-02-13 01:53:44 PM
"Melanie," who is 27, is married to "Sam," an extremelyattractive and successful man. "

We get it, he's black!
 
2013-02-13 01:55:36 PM

noitsnot: Jim_Callahan: Human biology is entirely predicated on the assumption that both males and females of our species would have multiple partners.  Certain major elements of male biology are based on the assumption that females will have had another partner within hours or minutes of their current one.


You want to show some references on that?  For humans, not some monkey species you read about.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/OnCall/story?id=1469078

Open marriage here, been going 12 years strong and never happier.  Have to set the rules before the game starts, and everybody has to follow them.  Ours are simple.  No lying.  Partner has veto power, always.  Real life and fun life 100% separate - ie if you want to be friends with a buddy then the buddying stops, and you can't buddy up with a friend.  Related to the study above - both of my kids were conceived a couple of hours after (protected) fun outside the home.

As for this Dear Abby, total BS.  NO WAY anyone I know in this lifestyle would do family, at any time.  It's possible that a guy is doing both sisters and they know about it, but someone is getting shafted in the deal and doesn't really want it.
 
2013-02-13 01:58:01 PM
As a happily married man who is part of a poly quad (my girlfriend and her husband live with me and my wife), I'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

/yes, this stuff really does happen
//all under 30, good looking, and nobody is fat
 
2013-02-13 01:59:30 PM
goochmeister42: all under 30, good looking, and nobody is fat

And that's why you don't know it's doomed.
 
2013-02-13 01:59:42 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Zasteva: Also, what makes you think that procreation and success of offspring are challenged by this circumstance? Biologically speaking, doesn't it maximize both the male and female outcome for reproduction and success of offspring?

The females have to compete for the benefit/protection of the male, limiting the chance of success for their offspring.


If the females of our species were unable to work or protect themselves then that would be correct. Fortunately, that's simply not true in our society:

- the male role of "protector" and "provider" are not exclusively male roles anymore, and women have nearly equal ability to take those roles in our society.
- 3 providers have more wage earning potential than 2
- 3 protectors are better able to divide up child care than 2

/some farkettes may want a word with you
 
2013-02-13 02:00:22 PM

StaleCoffee: "Biology" backs monogamy in a tribal setting a lot more rationally than it does promiscuity.


How so? If you're living as a group, as primitive humans did, what advantage does paternity certainty confer?
 
2013-02-13 02:01:22 PM

Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.


She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

www.geekconsulting.net
 
2013-02-13 02:01:24 PM

Jim_Callahan: Open marriage is fine, actually pretty well within established western norms.  The tradition goes back basically forever, though in the early US and contemporary western Europe the second woman would be called a mistress the first wife not being particularly disturbed is not terribly unusual.

What  is  terrifying, unnatural, and against all just laws of god and man, is talking to your parents or step-parents about your sex life after you're married.  Their opportunities and ability to give you any kind of meaningful advice ended long, long ago when you were a teenager.

//Albeit, they could also be lying to her.  That actually sounds like the kind of silly running gag I'd play on a meddling relative if I could get a girlfriend to go along with it.


It sounds to me like Mom is a snoop and found out, and the daughter was like "oh holy fark, now how the hell do I explain this to someone who can't even use the internet...okay, say it's less likely to make him cheat, old people think that's still a big concern, right?".

/If I were in a poly relationship, that would probably be about my level of grace there.
//But then, social awkwardness is why, were I in a poly relationship, I'd ask the others for advice\a ridiculous and hilarious cover story.
 
2013-02-13 02:02:15 PM

cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]


Well that didn't work...
 
2013-02-13 02:03:22 PM

Veteran of the Cola Wars: Lucidz: Drakuun: Abby's comments, The Mom's concern, The Butt hurt 'that never happened' crowd..

All taking their own relationship frustrations out on people that have what they
only dream of, but keep themselves from ever really experiencing.

Too see so many people selling themselves short of what Love is capable of....
Instead focusing on jealousy, and insisting that everyone be as miserable as them
holding up some silly notion of morality when it comes to Sex and Sexuality.

It's Sad... It really is.

Love yourself, Be open with yourself, on then can you really love others.

If you can do this ....You'll be surprised what can happen.

The problem is, if you stick around fark long enough... You get these people who come and go, sometimes TF'ers, who claim to have these "insane experiences".  They have a great marriage, they swing, they have sex with beautiful 20 year olds, etc.  They are living the dream.  Of course they never have any pictures of themselves, or of their "conquests" because "they like their privacy".  (That doesn't stop them from constantly postbombing penthouse forum ready stories.)

Eventually some determined person will track down who these people are and post pictures.  Without fail they are hideous wildebeasts who wouldn't get into any club where the doorman wasn't blind.  Also without fail, as soon as the pics are posted and the reality comes out, someone gets banned and the fatty swingers with the exotic lifestyle just... Dissappear.

Or someone gets beaten up and post pics and the husband buys them a laptop to shut them up... (Went old school there)

My advice for the Wildebeests of Fark.

I learned this in my late teenaged years.

See, I was ugly. And I do mean ugly. Oogly. Make a statue cry, stop a clock, make water curdle, the sort of ugly that could make a sea hag vomit.

It is very important that you get a motorcycle. (Which will probably make you uglier in the long run) Get a motorcycle and become the silent type. SAY NOTHING! If y ...


He speaks the truth.  Buying a motorcycle was worth every penny.
 
2013-02-13 02:07:14 PM

cmraman: She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...


Whose shoulder is she sitting on?
 
2013-02-13 02:07:18 PM

ciberido: ChaoticLimbs: Fake but harmless even if real. Many people, myself included, do not see sex in the same way that our parents do. Deceit is evil, casual sex is not. I've always been surprised how needlessly simplistic people can be.

Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity. Evil exists when people exert control over situations and people that they have no authority or consent to exert. They do it through manipulation and deception. Absent these two things, sex is as innocent as a back massage or a tennis match.

I'm currently reading "The righteous mind : why good people are divided by politics and religion" by Jonathan Haidt.  He argues that moral systems are based on six foundations (care, Fairness, liberty, loyalty, respect, and sanctity), and that will all morality systems are based on these six foundations, different morality systems stress some foundations more than others.  One of the big ideas in his book is that liberal Westeral morality puts great emphasis on the care/harm foundation but almost no emphasis on all on sanctity.

I'm pretty sure he would say that your argument was a good example of putting lots of emphasis on the care/harm foundation and none at all on the concept of sanctity.

Anyway, you might want to give it a read if you have the time.


I'll read it, but I'm already aware that Haidt seems to believe that old ideas persisted because they were good. I personally believe that certain ideas persist because people tend to be small, tend to make easy choices instead of difficult ones, and tend to see their world through a lens of selfishness.
What if you love someone so much that if they were going to be happier without you that you would assist them in moving beyond you? What if you could do emotional self-harm to further the happiness of the one you love, if that was what was required? These are contemplations that most adults are incapable of but are not so difficult for someone who really cares about another person above themself. I have met several people who are capable of this kind of caring, but most people I've met are ignorant, self-serving savages who cannot have a thing if others may also have it, for somehow in their minds they lose ownership of anything that's still available. They think thoughts like "how can I get her to sleep with me" instead of "how can I be the person others want to sleep with?"

A friend once asked me how he could get his wife to swing. I told him that you can't. Life is not, should not be, about getting people to do anything. It happens or it doesn't happen, and we can't exert force to move situations or people closer to what we want, because that which we want shouldn't be a what, at all. My wife and I aren't swinging at the moment, primarily because we're into each other right now and simply aren't interested in expansion. But I don't see that as a question of morality. I won't lie to my wife, won't omit information she needs to make her informed decisions. She has the right to know the character of our relationship at all times and if that character changes, she should be the first to know.

People can write whatever apologetics they like for the exclusivity based relationship, but a thinking person ought to be able to discern what works for them without referring to 1st century savages who slavishly feed their various sensory inputs without stopping to consider what a relationship could be if they had the strength to risk their heart by not pressuring others to serve them. Sex is such a tiny part of an intimate partnership, and there's nothing a partnership can accomplish that a committee cannot. I will acknowledge that the average person is not capable of it.  But tradition? Slavery is traditional. Xenophobia is traditional. Women as chattel is traditional. Our ancestors were stupid, bumbling, simple brutes not much different from the rest of the great apes.
 
2013-02-13 02:09:16 PM

noitsnot: Veteran of the Cola Wars: Lucidz: Drakuun: Abby's comments, The Mom's concern, The Butt hurt 'that never happened' crowd..

All taking their own relationship frustrations out on people that have what they
only dream of, but keep themselves from ever really experiencing.

Too see so many people selling themselves short of what Love is capable of....
Instead focusing on jealousy, and insisting that everyone be as miserable as them
holding up some silly notion of morality when it comes to Sex and Sexuality.

It's Sad... It really is.

Love yourself, Be open with yourself, on then can you really love others.

If you can do this ....You'll be surprised what can happen.

The problem is, if you stick around fark long enough... You get these people who come and go, sometimes TF'ers, who claim to have these "insane experiences".  They have a great marriage, they swing, they have sex with beautiful 20 year olds, etc.  They are living the dream.  Of course they never have any pictures of themselves, or of their "conquests" because "they like their privacy".  (That doesn't stop them from constantly postbombing penthouse forum ready stories.)

Eventually some determined person will track down who these people are and post pictures.  Without fail they are hideous wildebeasts who wouldn't get into any club where the doorman wasn't blind.  Also without fail, as soon as the pics are posted and the reality comes out, someone gets banned and the fatty swingers with the exotic lifestyle just... Dissappear.

Or someone gets beaten up and post pics and the husband buys them a laptop to shut them up... (Went old school there)

My advice for the Wildebeests of Fark.

I learned this in my late teenaged years.

See, I was ugly. And I do mean ugly. Oogly. Make a statue cry, stop a clock, make water curdle, the sort of ugly that could make a sea hag vomit.

It is very important that you get a motorcycle. (Which will probably make you uglier in the long run) Get a motorcycle and become the sile ...


I suppose I attempted the same thing by buying a corvette in the south...
 
2013-02-13 02:09:17 PM

cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]


Who's that holding her?
 
2013-02-13 02:11:32 PM

ciberido: Secret Agent X23: Well, you know, two chicks at one time are the fantasy.

Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.


I actually have two female friends who are sharing a boyfriend.   I don't understand it, but they've been doing it for years, and they both seem happy.

Haven't heard any complaints from the guy, either.

*shrugs* Whatever works.


I personallyy know tons of people in open relationships, married and otherwise, in fact, far more than I know in exclusive ones, but I have to say in not a single one of those multiple dozens of realtionships, no matter how kinky or otherwise non-conventional it may be (and I know a couple who both got sex changes at the same time because they wanted to "switch") I know of exactly zero where one of the particpants shared a sexual partner with a blood relative.  That's a taboo most people just will not go near, no matter how open-minded they think they are
 
2013-02-13 02:12:20 PM
Maybe I am jaded about open relationships and sex outside of a relationship. After being cheated on by the same whoresack twice, and seeing decent marriages crumble because of waning interest (really the only reason to get involved in poly-anything) I suppose I can only see the horrific ending that awaits most of those endeavors.
 
2013-02-13 02:12:24 PM

StaleCoffee: It doesn't even have to go that far since "Biology" backs monogamy in a tribal setting a lot more rationally than it does promiscuity. I'm sure some dimwit will bark some nonsense about genetic diversity. Yeah those 6 guys in the tribe are diverse, and when she constantly farks them all their sperm suit up and do battle over her egg, and in order for her to give birth that sperm has to fight a constant defensive battle against all comers.

Haha I said all comers.

Anyway, no, the biology thing is reserved for people who don't understand biology, society or just want to fark around on their SO's.


Your argument erroneously assumes there isn't an equal instinctive compulsion to make sure those other 6 guys in the tribe never get any sex at all.   Well, unless they're bottoming for another male. It also ignores the reality that women are more inclined to share a manthan men are inclined to share a woman.  Historically speaking polygamous societies always had polygyny (multi-woman) but almost NEVER had polyandry (multi-men).

Women on the other hand, trend monogamous, but there is an interesting hypothesis regarding the "bad boy" phenomenon.  Two things are generally accepted as fact: Women seek long-term relationships so with men so that those men will provide for their children.  Additionally, women sleep with bad boys, because he's got a motorcycle or plays guitar or is "suave" (that's code for "lies constantly").  They do it before they "settle down" with a "nice man" or they do it on the sly because they "have needs" and they do it a lot.  These two things seem at odds since the easy-lay tomcat won't be a provider, and the provider won't keep an unfaithful woman.

The hypothesis is this: Women seek to "cheat" either before or during a monogamous relationship because any children they have by the "tomcat" will be predisposed to tomcat around as well, (and in so doing carry her genes far and wide as well), and the provider is parasitized nest, a chump to be usedand to provide for someone else's genetic material.  Worse still?  Studies have shown when a woman is actively cheating, her sexual habits decrease the chances of conceiving with her regular partner and increase the chances of conceiving with the partner.

Now the MORAL equation is a different one entirely.  Men shouldn't be dogs, women shouldn't be biatches.  Men shouldn't except to fark on the first date (or expect such a woman to be faithful) and women shouldn't chase men who are raging dickbags because they're "confident".  People shouldn't be assholes, and no one should read Dear Abby.
 
2013-02-13 02:12:43 PM

cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]


Not bad. Who's the cute redhead holding her?
 
2013-02-13 02:14:46 PM

MrBallou: cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]

Not bad. Who's the cute redhead holding her?


Sorry, RickN99. 3 minutes - I are shamed.
 
2013-02-13 02:15:09 PM

Magorn: ciberido: Secret Agent X23: Well, you know, two chicks at one time are the fantasy.

Living with it as an ongoing setup would be hell on earth, especially if they're sisters. Assuming, of course, that it's really happening, which it isn't.


I actually have two female friends who are sharing a boyfriend.   I don't understand it, but they've been doing it for years, and they both seem happy.

Haven't heard any complaints from the guy, either.

*shrugs* Whatever works.

I personallyy know tons of people in open relationships, married and otherwise, in fact, far more than I know in exclusive ones, but I have to say in not a single one of those multiple dozens of realtionships, no matter how kinky or otherwise non-conventional it may be (and I know a couple who both got sex changes at the same time because they wanted to "switch") I know of exactly zero where one of the particpants shared a sexual partner with a blood relative.  That's a taboo most people just will not go near, no matter how open-minded they think they are


I think someone above said it best when it reeks of familial abuse and psychological damage as children, probably even physical violation by a family member.  Its just REALLY not right.  And personally, I find myself just as revolted by the sicko dudes who fantasize about participating in that incest with two sisters.  Just GROSS.
 
2013-02-13 02:15:13 PM
Double the Pussy, Double the Whipped. Awesome
 
2013-02-13 02:15:46 PM

The Muthaship: goochmeister42: all under 30, good looking, and nobody is fat

And that's why you don't know it's doomed.


HA!  It's not all roses and lube, but the first six months were pretty wild and fun filled.  Just with any committed relationship, you fall into the trap of becoming lazy or not communicating enough to make sure everyone's needs are met.

Relationships can be hard enough between two people, but when you double that again of course there are going to be some hiccups along the way.  It's been incredibly rewarding though - we're all happier than we've been before and care about eachother deeply.  Just have to concentrate on very open communication and make sure that your primary partner doesn't feel neglected.
 
2013-02-13 02:17:31 PM

ChaoticLimbs: A friend once asked me how he could get his wife to swing. I told him that you can't. Life is not, should not be, about getting people to do anything. It happens or it doesn't happen, and we can't exert force to move situations or people closer to what we want, because that which we want shouldn't be a what, at all. My wife and I aren't swinging at the moment, primarily because we're into each other right now and simply aren't interested in expansion. But I don't see that as a question of morality. I won't lie to my wife, won't omit information she needs to make her informed decisions. She has the right to know the character of our relationship at all times and if that character changes, she should be the first to know.


Yes! This is absolutely the foundation for healthy human relationships of all sorts!

ChaoticLimbs: People can write whatever apologetics they like for the exclusivity based relationship, but a thinking person ought to be able to discern what works for them without referring to 1st century savages who slavishly feed their various sensory inputs without stopping to consider what a relationship could be if they had the strength to risk their heart by not pressuring others to serve them. Sex is such a tiny part of an intimate partnership, and there's nothing a partnership can accomplish that a committee cannot. I will acknowledge that the average person is not capable of it.  But tradition? Slavery is traditional. Xenophobia is traditional. Women as chattel is traditional. Our ancestors were stupid, bumbling, simple brutes not much different from the rest of the great apes.

Civilization seems like it's largely the process of getting rid of outdated traditions and establishing new ways of doing things that are better for more people.

/hat's off to you!
 
2013-02-13 02:18:13 PM
As someone whose wife has a hot sister, I'm getting a FAP out of this.
 
2013-02-13 02:18:30 PM

goochmeister42: The Muthaship: goochmeister42: all under 30, good looking, and nobody is fat

And that's why you don't know it's doomed.

HA!  It's not all roses and lube, but the first six months were pretty wild and fun filled.  Just with any committed relationship, you fall into the trap of becoming lazy or not communicating enough to make sure everyone's needs are met.

Relationships can be hard enough between two people, but when you double that again of course there are going to be some hiccups along the way.  It's been incredibly rewarding though - we're all happier than we've been before and care about eachother deeply.  Just have to concentrate on very open communication and make sure that your primary partner doesn't feel neglected.


I would view it as, I can barely stand one room mate, let alone 3.  God forbid children get involved.  shiat is the stuff of nightmares.
 
2013-02-13 02:19:36 PM

MrBallou: MrBallou: cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]

Not bad. Who's the cute redhead holding her?

Sorry, RickN99. 3 minutes - I are shamed.


And I was 2 minutes behind fawity.  I, too, are shamed.
 
2013-02-13 02:23:45 PM

fawlty: cmraman:
Whose shoulder is she sitting on?

RickN99: cmraman:
Who's that holding her?

MrBallou: cmraman:
Not bad. Who's the cute redhead holding her?

The weird part isn't the snark, I expected that. What's weird is that the preview worked but I can't see the picture in the thread. Apparently everyone else can so it's all good.

/it was the only SFW pic I could find.
//If I wasn't at work, I would have blocked out the lizards' eyes since I didn't get a release from them...
 
2013-02-13 02:25:00 PM
About the closest I have ever been to this situation was when I was around 9-10 years old, with the 2 neighbor girls down the street. We spent lots of time together because there were no other kids around. Occasionally when we were playing out in the woods we'd find skin mags in trailers, or in some of the abandoned shacks, or hidden in parent's garages (this is deep in Pennsyltucky). We "played" together and learned about sex based on what we saw in the magazines. No penetration or anything, but we did play with some of the other stuff - as far as 9-10 year old kids could.

That lasted for about a year and a half til we started hitting puberty and that all went away when we really realized what we were doing. Tried stirring things up with the older sister a few years down the road because she had a killer body, but got smacked down for being a perv. The younger sister put on a ton of weight and became a pretty nasty biatch around middle school so we stopped talking.

I don't know if this counts or not since it was less sex and more child self-discovery.

/Younger sister now happily married and actually pretty cool again
//Hot older sister now a very not-hot butch lesbian, but still pretty cool
 
2013-02-13 02:26:54 PM

Lucidz:

Yes, I'm aware that people tell tall tales on the internet...and on FARK in particular.
I get the Snark aspect of it all.. I've been here plenty long enough to know better. =)
I just have an exceptionally rare, and loving relationship is all, that is my bias.

So many people I see unhappy, or who cannot maintain relationships, do a fair share
of self sabotage to keep it that way... was the point I was really making.


Veteran of the Cola Wars: Motorcycles and girls are awesome. There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, quite like feeling two perky points of pressure stabbing into your back and two arms clinched tight around you as you goose the gas.


I would say anything with any measurable power, and which makes it seem to them as if,
without you piloting it, they are sure to die at any second. Mine is dirt and snow covered rural roads in my Impreza....they lose their minds (and panties) when you're barreling through the backwoods rally style.

rofl
 
2013-02-13 02:27:17 PM
"Clearly, they do not view marriage and relationships the same way you do. "

blog.ctnews.com
 
2013-02-13 02:32:21 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: StaleCoffee: "Biology" backs monogamy in a tribal setting a lot more rationally than it does promiscuity.

How so? If you're living as a group, as primitive humans did, what advantage does paternity certainty confer?


you mean besides stable human relationships?
we aren't jealous creatures because society dictates it.
pair bonding has been for millions of years the most efficient way to care for babies, and pair bonding dictates jealousy as humans that didn't jealousy guard the relationship were less likely to pass on their genes. less jealous women, had babies that were more likely to die. for men, they were more likely to become cuckold and care for other men's babies produced by their women.
if you are not jealous, you are a bit of a mutant.
not that their anything wrong with that.
 
2013-02-13 02:33:37 PM
cdn.stripersonline.com
 
2013-02-13 02:35:54 PM

TheDumbBlonde: Elandriel: The Italian Farker: the_rev: The Italian Farker: on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Your wife... *wanted* you to fcuck her 18-year-old sister?

That is...unusual.

Yes it was unusual but well who am I to refuse, I was 24 at the time. I should note that she was a Butterface.

Also, possibly Canadian.

And then she died of cancer.


Hey, there's no reason te'o speculate..
 
2013-02-13 02:39:49 PM

SphericalTime: I want a shirtless picture of "Sam" before I'll believe this.

Also, lol, you're not supposed to let mom find out.


This is actually the least believable part of this letter.  Any sane person with this kind of arrangement would not be telling mom and dad.  Parents need to know who you're in a relationship with, not everyone you're sleeping with.
 
2013-02-13 02:40:01 PM

Publikwerks: Pocket Ninja: I'll bet lots of internet dollars that not a single person in this story looks like we want them to look. Assuming, of course, that it's not total bullshiat, which it is.

A pair of daughters, in an open relationship, sharing one man. Spending most nights with one woman, while occasionally spending a night out with her sister. Maybe even leaving work early some days to sneak one in. Maybe he brings up the possibility of a threesome. Imagine, all three of them in bed, sweating, rubbing in a pleasurefest....

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Now imagine their fat.


Dial me in here, whassis? Some kinda some reference to a film or Made-for-TV special starring the Matthew McConnaghey? Please to explain for me.
 
2013-02-13 02:40:44 PM

Secret Agent X23: unchellmatt: It sounds more like her daughters are polyamorous but just don't have a word for it. It also sounds like "Dear Abby" hasn't got a clue.

Maybe, but if the one sister's rationale for agreeing to this is to remove hubby's incentive to cheat, I have to think she's not going into it for any of the right reasons.


We're not hearing from the daughter directly, we're hearing from the edited letter of the mother.

It's quite possible, for example, that after her mother started making Lecture #417 on the subject, the daughter might well have in desperation said, "Well, unlike you in your first marriage, at least I know who my husband's sleeping with!  And maybe Sis will return the favor after she's married!"

So Mom takes that and tells Dear Abby those are her daughter's "reasons" (instead of her daughter's frustrated attempt to shock her mother into shutting up), in hopes of getting support for continuing a campaign of sticking her unwanted nose in her daughters' sex lives.  And now Dear Abby has gone and given Mom permission to continue to wreck the mother-daughters relationship.
 
2013-02-13 02:43:44 PM

Tanukis_Parachute: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

so...you're saying anal right?


It's the smart choice for your future.
 
2013-02-13 02:46:18 PM

Drakuun: Lucidz:

Yes, I'm aware that people tell tall tales on the internet...and on FARK in particular.
I get the Snark aspect of it all.. I've been here plenty long enough to know better. =)
I just have an exceptionally rare, and loving relationship is all, that is my bias.

So many people I see unhappy, or who cannot maintain relationships, do a fair share
of self sabotage to keep it that way... was the point I was really making.


Veteran of the Cola Wars: Motorcycles and girls are awesome. There is nothing, and I do mean nothing, quite like feeling two perky points of pressure stabbing into your back and two arms clinched tight around you as you goose the gas.

I would say anything with any measurable power, and which makes it seem to them as if,
without you piloting it, they are sure to die at any second. Mine is dirt and snow covered rural roads in my Impreza....they lose their minds (and panties) when you're barreling through the backwoods rally style.

rofl


WRX or STI?
 
2013-02-13 02:47:23 PM

Veteran of the Cola Wars: I came close to this sort of "perfect fantasy."

I was still young, and there was this kinda hot in a crazy bad way girl named Jennifer. Like most of the other girls of the Cola Wars era. Plenty of Jennifer class girls running around causing no end of trouble.

So, we were dating for a while, and the whole sex issue came up. Jennifer said she'd let me bone her, but to do that, I had to bone her sister first. Being a horny and really very stupid teenage punk, I thought this was a great idea. A fantastic idea. A twoferone deal is what every teenage boy dreams of, right? RIGHT? The price of admission into a Jennifer receptacle seemed easy enough. Living the dream. It was almost like a soft drink commercial. Nothing could go wrong...

WRONG!!!

Enter Christina. Another common nameplate for the Cola Wars era model of teenage girl.

Christina was a mongoloid with a mustache bigger and bushier than my own, and black brillo pad like hair going from fingertip to shoulder. And probably farther. **Shudder**

At that moment, I created an entirely new dating rule and that  is that I do not date or screw around with women that have a neck larger than mine own. I flew out of the house at pert near the speed of sound, snagging my elbow on the metal latch for the screen door, tearing the skin away, and needing about a baker's dozen worth of stitches. I threw a leg over my motorbike, reached down and whammy jammied the screw driver jammed into where the shifter lever used to be, brought the bike to life with a roar that was like a dump truck full of industrial scrap metal was being poured into a woodchipper, and vacated the premises so quickly that everything went all red shifty all around me.

Jennifer dumped me for being an insensitive dick, but that was OK. I met a red haired punk gal named Colbi, a girl that taught me the hard way that girls can be the aggressors in sexual congress. It was the first and last time that I have ever been branded. I miss you Colbi.


Yes, but were you  young enough to look at, and far too old to see all the scars are on the inside?
 
2013-02-13 02:57:53 PM

Lucidz: Maybe I am jaded about open relationships and sex outside of a relationship. After being cheated on by the same whoresack twice, and seeing decent marriages crumble because of waning interest (really the only reason to get involved in poly-anything) I suppose I can only see the horrific ending that awaits most of those endeavors.


Sampling bias.

With the exception of TMI people, the only times you hear about sex outside other people's relationships is when the relationship fails.  If your friends are in an open relationship and happy about it, chances are they're not broadcasting it.
 
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2013-02-13 03:05:36 PM

cmraman: She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...


her elbows are a bit knobby.
 
2013-02-13 03:07:49 PM
This exact thing happened to me once.  Then I woke up.
 
2013-02-13 03:10:28 PM

Zasteva: exclusively male roles anymore, and women have nearly equal ability to take those roles in our society.


No matter what current society says, you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of years of instinct.  You can't do away with that in 100 years.  I stand by my statements.
 
2013-02-13 03:12:24 PM

cmraman: /But since you asked nicely...


Which one is she?

/I keed, I keed.
 
2013-02-13 03:13:55 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


Hehehe precisely.
 
2013-02-13 03:14:38 PM

ChaoticLimbs: Our ancestors were stupid, bumbling, simple brutes not much different from the rest of the great apes.


Yet they managed to produce you.  Well, we should forgive them for their big sins as well as their small ones.
 
2013-02-13 03:16:35 PM

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Lucidz: Maybe I am jaded about open relationships and sex outside of a relationship. After being cheated on by the same whoresack twice, and seeing decent marriages crumble because of waning interest (really the only reason to get involved in poly-anything) I suppose I can only see the horrific ending that awaits most of those endeavors.

Sampling bias.

With the exception of TMI people, the only times you hear about sex outside other people's relationships is when the relationship fails.  If your friends are in an open relationship and happy about it, chances are they're not broadcasting it.


Maybe I've been unlucky enough to hang out with people open about their.... open-ness...  Most people I've met seem to want to flaunt it, like a new car. Of course these are people in their late 20s and thirties, so they haven't really reached the "i'm fine with where I'm at" stage of any part of their lives.
 
2013-02-13 03:17:19 PM
I'm pretty sure old testament Gawd thought multiple wives was A-OK, who am I to Disagree?
 
2013-02-13 03:38:16 PM

Galloping Galoshes: Zasteva: exclusively male roles anymore, and women have nearly equal ability to take those roles in our society.

No matter what current society says, you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of years of instinct.  You can't do away with that in 100 years.  I stand by my statements.


Fair enough. Now how does that apply to the situation at hand?
 
2013-02-13 03:38:37 PM
Interesting. Would life be better if we farked like bonobos instead of fighting like chimps?
 
2013-02-13 03:40:48 PM

Trivia Jockey: Abby's response to this should have simply been "Stop lying".


No, her response would be "BBBBBRRRAAAAAAAIIIIINNNNNSSSSS!!!!!"

/Bet the frigid old harpie who wrote this letter hasn't had any since 1961
 
2013-02-13 03:41:36 PM

PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.

To each their own. Off to the bar for my midday drunk and butt dialing.


I know (casually) a large number of polyamorous persons who are also happily married. Their poly associations also include unmarried people. I don't know if any of these groups include brothers or sisters, but it wouldn't surprise me.

It's not as though this is something entirely uncommon.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are reading this thread. I know there are Farkers among them.
 
2013-02-13 03:45:43 PM

relcec: Gaseous Anomaly: StaleCoffee: "Biology" backs monogamy in a tribal setting a lot more rationally than it does promiscuity.

How so? If you're living as a group, as primitive humans did, what advantage does paternity certainty confer?

you mean besides stable human relationships?
we aren't jealous creatures because society dictates it.
pair bonding has been for millions of years the most efficient way to care for babies, and pair bonding dictates jealousy as humans that didn't jealousy guard the relationship were less likely to pass on their genes. less jealous women, had babies that were more likely to die. for men, they were more likely to become cuckold and care for other men's babies produced by their women.
if you are not jealous, you are a bit of a mutant.
not that their anything wrong with that.


Are you assuming individual living? The point is that in a group-living situation, being cuckolded doesn't matter. People didn't hoard their meat and veggies to themselves when they lived in small tribes; social pressure is a powerful force in groups that small, and it would tend to make them share or face exile. There's also some evidence (from modern primitives and related animals) that "free love" was a good way to cement these social bonds. (Some modern subcultures do that, e.g. lots of WWII-era fighter pilots and their wives were swingers).

With agriculture and civilization came individual living, which brought things more in line with the model you're talking about. But that's a blip in human history; we haven't been experiencing those selection pressures for that many generations so it's unlikely to have evolutionarily shaped us.

/I get this all from "Sex At Dawn" if you're interested
 
2013-02-13 03:50:26 PM

The Irresponsible Captain: Interesting. Would life be better if we farked like bonobos instead of fighting like chimps?


That's "Sex At Dawn"'s thesis: that was what we indeed did until civilization came along. It fits various pieces of evidence and does a good job explaining various bits of our sexual responses.

Recommended reading for anyone wanting to throw around ev-bio explanations of sexual relationships. No need to take it as gospel; I'm sure there are many holes to be poked in their work, and that Farkers are about to enlighten me about them.
 
2013-02-13 03:51:20 PM

Zasteva: Galloping Galoshes: Zasteva: exclusively male roles anymore, and women have nearly equal ability to take those roles in our society.

No matter what current society says, you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of years of instinct.  You can't do away with that in 100 years.  I stand by my statements.

Fair enough. Now how does that apply to the situation at hand?


Neither of these women will tolerate long "their" man sleeping with the other.  They'll push him to choose. Things will get ugly.  This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
 
2013-02-13 03:54:49 PM

cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]


Dude.
 
2013-02-13 03:54:55 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


Are you sure it wasn't your birthday, because that would be one heck of a birthday present.

Also, I wish my wife would let me nail her sister.  In all seriousness though I wouldn't be able to do it.  I can see it now...

Wife:  Go ahead honey you can sleep with my sister.
Me:  Really?
Wife:  Yeah sure I think she would like it and I wouldn't have to do it with you tonight.
Me:  Ok.
Wife:  You're a dead man for agreeing to that.
 
2013-02-13 04:02:26 PM

Crapinoleum: spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.

A green vagina?  Eeewww!


mydisguises.com

"Eww?" I'd hit it!
 
2013-02-13 04:03:18 PM

ideclare: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Are you sure it wasn't your birthday, because that would be one heck of a birthday present.

Also, I wish my wife would let me nail her sister.  In all seriousness though I wouldn't be able to do it.  I can see it now...

Wife:  Go ahead honey you can sleep with my sister.
Me:  Really?
Wife:  Yeah sure I think she would like it and I wouldn't have to do it with you tonight.
Me:  Ok.
Wife:  You're a dead man for agreeing to that.


HAHAHA, I can see my fiance doing the same thing. So far whenever discussion of multiple partners has come up her simple response is, "I do not share well with others." Otherwise we are of the "look all you want but don't touch" school of thought.
 
2013-02-13 04:11:32 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could <b>enjoy it without getting pregnant</b>. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


....how. Wat. Are you sterile?
 
2013-02-13 04:16:38 PM
Zasteva: exclusively male roles anymore, and women have nearly equal ability to take those roles in our society.

Galloping Galoshes:No matter what current society says, you're dealing with hundreds of thousands of years of instinct.  You can't do away with that in 100 years.  I stand by my statements.

Zasteva:Fair enough. Now how does that apply to the situation at hand?


Galloping Galoshes: Neither of these women will tolerate long "their" man sleeping with the other.  They'll push him to choose. Things will get ugly.  This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

That's certainly possible. I've seen jealousy crop up in open relationships before. I've also seen open relationships go on for a long time after those issues are resolved. Long term relationships are difficult, whether they are monogamous or not. A relationship with multiple partners offers more challenges than most, but it also offers more benefits than most.

And your prediction could turn out to be false you know. It could go very well for them, never get ugly or out of control, and they'll be luck to have lived it. I agree that the odds are not in their favor, statistically speaking. But you could pretty much say that about marriages, too. Should we heap disapproval on people who get married?
 
2013-02-13 04:17:54 PM

ideclare: Also, I wish my wife would let me nail her sister.  In all seriousness though I wouldn't be able to do it.  I can see it now...


You know, there are lots and lots of phrases I can never picture my wife uttering

"Honey, the I upgraded the video card on the computer since it wasn't fast enough for Skyrim"
"Honey, I'm taking up BASE jumping"
"Honey, I just won $600 million in the lottery"

Of all the phrases I can't picture her uttering, "Honey, I want you to sleep with my sister" is the one I can't picture the most.
 
2013-02-13 04:33:05 PM

macadamnut: ChaoticLimbs: Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity.

You're wrong. Fat girls taste way better.


Yeah, fat girls are self-basting!
 
2013-02-13 04:35:55 PM

RedT: PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.

To each their own. Off to the bar for my midday drunk and butt dialing.

For more information see: Dan Savage's Column


Thanks for the NSFW warning.
 
2013-02-13 04:36:36 PM

robertus: Heart-Broken, Heart-Broken
You have no complaint
they are what they are
and they ain't what they ain't
so listen up buster, and listen up good
stop wishing for bad luck and climb on that wood


...leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-13 04:39:31 PM

GAT_00: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years

Of all the things that never happened, this never happened the most.


farking golden, well played!
 
2013-02-13 04:47:50 PM

cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-13 05:04:10 PM
"Are you right to protest? You certainly are. That's what mothers are for -- to inject a dose of sanity when everyone around her is losing theirs. "

Worst advice I've ever seen from Abby.
 
2013-02-13 05:16:19 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Once upon a time an opportunity arose in my music industry profession to indulge in that fantasy, two on one.  The experience was ... awkward. Everyone willing, but not experienced where to put all the extra arms. And in contrast to pron.


I bet your first attempt at music was awkward, too.  Practice makes perfect.
 
2013-02-13 05:24:02 PM
I  diddled two Ukrainian sisters for a while.  They lived together.  One liked it in the morning and the other at night, which worked out well. Neither minded me farking the other but they wouldn't get into bed together... at least, not when I was around.
 
2013-02-13 05:25:15 PM

Nutsac_Jim: Clemkadidlefark: Once upon a time an opportunity arose in my music industry profession to indulge in that fantasy, two on one.  The experience was ... awkward. Everyone willing, but not experienced where to put all the extra arms. And in contrast to pron.

If it was two girls you have them handle each other while you take car of them in a serial fashion.

If it was a guy and a girl, you are to put your hand on the trigger and shoot yourself if you did anything other than the high five to make an A.


LOL over here

No further comment except it was two young ladies of the "I'm so effing drunk" and "Don't dare me, you know I'll do it" persuasion".
 
2013-02-13 05:26:36 PM

LeroyBourne: I can see this happening, I dated a chick who had a younger sister. When I'd go over to their place to party at the end of the night the younger sister would try to get us to just all snuggle up in her big bed. The g/f just had a single bed, and I don't mind spooning. Whenever the younger sister tried this I just kept my mouth shut to see how my gf felt about this and to see how it would play out. It never went down.


You're supposed to see a doc if it lasts more than four hours.
 
2013-02-13 05:31:58 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: cmraman: Galloping Galoshes: cmraman: //Yeah, I'm a slut. What about it?

Don't need your stories.  Put your wife on.

She's not Fark fantasy material. She's 50, and she's not a supermodel. Oh, and unlike the girls most Farkers date, she's real...

/But since you asked nicely...

[www.geekconsulting.net image 850x566]
[i.imgur.com image 580x822]


Oh that's mean.  I laughed.
 
2013-02-13 05:33:13 PM
Lucidz:

What a load of manure and an excuse for bad behavior   As civilization expands, the needs and rules of the old ways diminish.

OK, but isn't monogamy a pretty old rule then?


Besides which, with overpopulation, increased diversity among races, etc, there is no need for a biological multi-partner sexual drive.

There is no need for a LOT of the things that drive our behavior today, what's your point?  You still get to enjoy eating a giant steak even though there's no need for that.  Why?  Because it doesn't hurt anyone else if you enjoy a giant steak.

My assumption is that every time you have a "base instinct" to stone a man to death for being a douchenozzle does not cause you to do so, as society, ya know, frowns on it...

So the only reason not to do something is if society frowns on it?  That's not a very strong moral code.  Some societies would celebrate stoning a man to death for any number of reasons.  In fact, I would argue that the only reason society has that much power in our decision making is... wait for it... because biologically we are pack animals!

So you have to different biological urges here:

Urge to have sex with lots of different people
Urge to remain a member of your social group

Now I ask, throughout history which biological urge has caused more harm to people?  Probably _not_ the urge to fark everything in site.


So take your stupid weak ass argument and go justify it somewhere else.  You want to be a slut, do so.  Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code is driving you to spread your man-seed to the interior of inexpensive truck stop condoms.

Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code isn't driving you to fit into the crowd.
 
2013-02-13 05:48:50 PM

Igor Jakovsky: A green vagina? Eeewww!

I know, right? Who'd ever want any of that?:

Regardless, its still pink in the middle


So, why not fark a watermelon and skip all the drama?
 
2013-02-13 05:51:51 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Igor Jakovsky: A green vagina? Eeewww!

I know, right? Who'd ever want any of that?:

Regardless, its still pink in the middle

So, why not fark a watermelon and skip all the drama?


Too cold.
 
2013-02-13 05:54:59 PM

elev8meL8r: BarkingUnicorn: Igor Jakovsky: A green vagina? Eeewww!

I know, right? Who'd ever want any of that?:

Regardless, its still pink in the middle

So, why not fark a watermelon and skip all the drama?

Too cold.


Not if it's still on the vine, out in the sun.
 
2013-02-13 05:57:23 PM

Gaseous Anomaly: relcec: Gaseous Anomaly: StaleCoffee: "Biology" backs monogamy in a tribal setting a lot more rationally than it does promiscuity.

How so? If you're living as a group, as primitive humans did, what advantage does paternity certainty confer?

you mean besides stable human relationships?
we aren't jealous creatures because society dictates it.
pair bonding has been for millions of years the most efficient way to care for babies, and pair bonding dictates jealousy as humans that didn't jealousy guard the relationship were less likely to pass on their genes. less jealous women, had babies that were more likely to die. for men, they were more likely to become cuckold and care for other men's babies produced by their women.
if you are not jealous, you are a bit of a mutant.
not that their anything wrong with that.

Are you assuming individual living? The point is that in a group-living situation, being cuckolded doesn't matter. People didn't hoard their meat and veggies to themselves when they lived in small tribes; social pressure is a powerful force in groups that small, and it would tend to make them share or face exile. There's also some evidence (from modern primitives and related animals) that "free love" was a good way to cement these social bonds. (Some modern subcultures do that, e.g. lots of WWII-era fighter pilots and their wives were swingers).

With agriculture and civilization came individual living, which brought things more in line with the model you're talking about. But that's a blip in human history; we haven't been experiencing those selection pressures for that many generations so it's unlikely to have evolutionarily shaped us.

/I get this all from "Sex At Dawn" if you're interested


being susceptible to cuckolding does matter, it means your genes are much less likely to survive, than people who jealously guard their mates. that's why it isn't a common trait.

well scientists disagree but some theories postulate pairbonding and monogamy developed a very very long time ago when we  still hunted and gathered, not 16,000 years ago when civilization first developed. these posit that development of monogamy is interrelated with the evolutionary pressure of males needing to find a way to ensure their genes survive and humans a way to efficiently care for babies with huge brains that need a dozen years of parental care along with the the sexual division of labor that developed to care for these helpless human beings for so damn long. our lazy incompetent children didn't evolve over night when the first crops were planted in the Indus valley or Mesopotamia, but rather a very long time. we aren't chimps, and haven't been for a while.

read chapter 3 of this:
The Oxford Handbook of Evolutionary Family Psychologyhttp://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=sj2Tk2k49ZcC&oi= fnd&pg=PA33 &dq=pair+bonding+paleolithic&ots=6hl9SrE7Mj&sig=efcHA5ngi98tYyoolW3zt8 20Kd8#v=onepage&q=pair%20bonding%20paleolithic&f=false
 
2013-02-13 06:24:11 PM

endmile: The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant.

Paul Bernardo?


That was my first thought.
 
2013-02-13 06:26:03 PM

dericwater: Are these the sisters?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x581]


I have so many questions about what it would be like to do these two... er one...er two... er... what ever.
 
2013-02-13 06:52:02 PM
Mom: trolled.
 
2013-02-13 06:54:01 PM

bim1154: dericwater: Are these the sisters?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x581]

I have so many questions about what it would be like to do these two... er one...er two... er... what ever.


Oh yeah. They're pretty hawt. Their heads are just at the right places for some serious action.
 
2013-02-13 07:16:45 PM

btraz70: macadamnut: ChaoticLimbs: Sex is not evil, it's ambivalent to morality, in the way that flavor is not related to obesity.

You're wrong. Fat girls taste way better.


dig in...
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 265x300]


I think he meant teevee fat, not fat fat.

/Teevee fat: Christina Hendricks.
//Fat fat: Melissa McCarthy.
 
2013-02-13 07:19:40 PM

The Italian Farker: Why is it BS? My wife's sister moved in with us when their parents died. She was 17 at the time but on her 18th birthday my wife wanted me to have sex with her so she could enjoy it without getting pregnant. Went on for about 2 years until she met someone responsible. Both couples are still together after 20+ years


forgot to add "CSB"
 
2013-02-13 07:27:11 PM

dericwater: bim1154: dericwater: Are these the sisters?

[i.dailymail.co.uk image 634x581]

I have so many questions about what it would be like to do these two... er one...er two... er... what ever.

Oh yeah. They're pretty hawt. Their heads are just at the right places for some serious action.


I should get me a couple of those blow up dolls, take the head off of one and put on the other, get drunk as shiat and test this theory.
 
2013-02-13 07:32:12 PM

peterthx: Crapinoleum: spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.

A green vagina?  Eeewww!



"Eww?" I'd hit it!


i.imgur.com

ORLY?
 
2013-02-13 07:35:06 PM
Dear Abby,

Are you aware you are dead?  Also, someone has hijacked your column and is answering fake messages about open marriages and sisters having sex with the same dude.  Your advice was lame.  Thought you should know.

- Bugcrusher
 
2013-02-13 07:35:33 PM

Igor Jakovsky: peterthx: Crapinoleum: spiderpaz: m00: El Pachuco: Yeah, no.  While there are a near-infinite number of women in the world and in theory anything's possible, I've so far only seen women be both extremely protective of, and extremely competitive with, their female siblings.  This is about as likely as having a three-way with twin sisters, vs a three-way with two unrelated lady types.

Also, this (NSFW),

Actually my college room-mate was dating this girl, and cheating on her with her identical twin. I was like... "what's the point" but he swore there was a difference.

ROFL!!  omg, that's too damn funny.  The grass is always greener never applied to vagina so well.

A green vagina?  Eeewww!

"Eww?" I'd hit it!

[i.imgur.com image 300x437]

ORLY?


That looks like Chyna... I saw her get it up the poop shoot in some video... wasn't very erotic at all.
 
2013-02-13 07:39:36 PM

Secret Agent X23: PreMortem: I find it interesting that most think that anything different from a monogamous relationship must be a fabrication. It's almost as if they are shut-ins who never meet people with different perspectives on life and sexuality.

I for one don't assume it because it's different from a monogamous relationship.

I assume it because we're told that the wife thinks that letting the husband do her sister is somehow going to reduce the chances that he'll "cheat." If this scenario is true and an idea like that is part of it, it would most likely be the husband's idea. It's exactly the sort of argument a guy would get the wife to agree to if he wants to sleep with her sister without sneaking around and which she would agree to if she has self-esteem issues.

If it's actually an open marriage of some sort, that doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that there are circumstances that would be considered cheating, but the whole basis for this goes off in another direction.


Actually, I can see it being the wife's idea.  She's too busy to take care of his needs in the bedroom so she provided an acceptable alternative.

Crapinoleum: A green vagina? Eeewww!


What's that, something a pedophile wants?

Or are we talking an Orion slave girl?
 
2013-02-13 08:12:09 PM
DEAR MOM: Maybe he's a damned good fark, why not go find out?
 
2013-02-13 08:20:45 PM
They're all adults, Mom needs to butt the fark out.
 
2013-02-13 08:27:33 PM
I am told most sisters play on the bed from time to time if their ages are close; "twincest" among twins is very common also.

But the functional rule here is, once a cheat, always a cheat.  If she cheats on him with you, she will cheat on you with someone else.

\\\ Been there, done that.

\\\ had that done to me too.
 
2013-02-13 08:36:23 PM

Publikwerks: Now imagine their fat.


Even though you misspelled "they're", you win the farking thread, that was great!
 
2013-02-13 08:40:24 PM
(comes back and reads thread)


i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-13 08:42:20 PM
Hubby & I have participated in swinging but when a guy has found out that I have a sister & has started asking me creepy questions or sexual innuendos about me & my sister, that's an automatic "Ohhhhkkkey you're too sick for me" thought.
 
2013-02-13 08:57:51 PM
3 thoughts:

1. This seems perilously close to a 4chan wincest thread. Fark, you're better than that.
2. Thank GOD the wife's sister is ugly and not my type at ALL.
3. I once dated a girl with a HOT sister who was two years younger. They said enough things while drunk I think I probably could have swung things that way if I had wanted. Glad I didn't though, in retrospect.
 
2013-02-13 10:02:23 PM

Telos: Lucidz:

What a load of manure and an excuse for bad behavior   As civilization expands, the needs and rules of the old ways diminish.

OK, but isn't monogamy a pretty old rule then?


Besides which, with overpopulation, increased diversity among races, etc, there is no need for a biological multi-partner sexual drive.

There is no need for a LOT of the things that drive our behavior today, what's your point?  You still get to enjoy eating a giant steak even though there's no need for that.  Why?  Because it doesn't hurt anyone else if you enjoy a giant steak.

My assumption is that every time you have a "base instinct" to stone a man to death for being a douchenozzle does not cause you to do so, as society, ya know, frowns on it...

So the only reason not to do something is if society frowns on it?  That's not a very strong moral code.  Some societies would celebrate stoning a man to death for any number of reasons.  In fact, I would argue that the only reason society has that much power in our decision making is... wait for it... because biologically we are pack animals!

So you have to different biological urges here:

Urge to have sex with lots of different people
Urge to remain a member of your social group

Now I ask, throughout history which biological urge has caused more harm to people?  Probably _not_ the urge to fark everything in site.


So take your stupid weak ass argument and go justify it somewhere else.  You want to be a slut, do so.  Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code is driving you to spread your man-seed to the interior of inexpensive truck stop condoms.

Don't pretend something deep in your genetic code isn't driving you to fit into the crowd.


I am not saying you "can't be polyamorous".  I don't care what someone does.  I'm saying, don't try to justify something with shaky biology.

Your analogy of eating steak is a poor one.  A more accurate analogy would be eating a whole pie.  There are no laws against eating a whole pie.  There are no laws against eating a whole pie every day.  Will you get fat?  Most likely.  Might you stay thin?  Sure, but that would be very lucky.  Its probably the same odds as a poly-amorous couple surviving any long term relationship.

That said, don't eat a whole pie and then justify it by saying biologically, our bodies are made to consume as much as possible to make up for the lean times.  If you sit down and eat a whole pie, you are a glutton.  Plain and simple.  Eat all the pies you want, just own what you are is all I'm saying.
 
2013-02-14 12:05:16 AM

zerkalo: Double the Pussy, Double the Whipped. Awesome


Clearly you don't like women.  Stay away from them and do everybody a favor.
 
2013-02-14 12:18:47 AM

olddinosaur: I am told most sisters play on the bed from time to time if their ages are close; "twincest" among twins is very common also.


Dude. Identical twins screwing around isn't incest. It's masturbation.

Honestly, the only thing wrong with incest is the power differential. If I had a twin sister, I'd bone her. If I had an older sister, I might. Probably not, but I might. A younger sister would be right the f*ck out, though. It would be dirty and wrong. Consent is the real issue here. Screw who you want to, just don't hurt anyone.

OK, there's the genetics issue if you reproduce. I understand it's not as bad as we're led to believe if it's a once in a few generations thing, but there's still a risk.
 
2013-02-14 12:49:20 AM
At least the dude doesn't have to deal with 2 mother in laws
 
2013-02-14 01:36:07 AM

Zasteva: cgraves67: While I can believe that this can happen and does happen, such diversion from the norm indicates that the persons involved are themselves socially abnormal. They probably would leave a trail of questionable decisions and brutally stupid mistakes. The story reeks of broken marriages all over the place, which may be the source of the dysfunctionality, although I wouldn't settle on that without more history.

Zasteva:Perhaps there are simply more people than you know who don't feel that possession is a necessary or positive part of a romantic relationship.

Galloping Galoshes: Perhaps cgraves67 has a better handle on what drives people than you.  Romance is a modern concept.  Procreation and ensuring the success of offspring are instinctive.  I'd bet on the more ingrained behavior.

No, I agree with his first sentence. This is a diversion from the norm. My problem is with him defining that a dysfunctional, which in my experience simply isn't true.

Dysfunction happens primarily when people aren't true to their own natures. Most people aren't able to override their jealousy and fear of losing someone. But some people are. That's a sign of civilized (or enlightened if you prefer) behavior, overcoming one's fear with reason and compassion.

For those who aren't able to overcome jealousy and fear, a monogamous relationship might work better. But only if the male can override his biological drive to procreate with multiple partners ...


and only if the woman can override her biological drive to procreate with the best available genes when she's ovulating

just saying

that's a lot of overcoming

humm...overcoming
 
2013-02-14 11:24:20 AM
Lucidz: I am not saying you "can't be polyamorous".  I don't care what someone does.  I'm saying, don't try to justify something with shaky biology.

It's not exactly shaky biology... and really, you can include a lot of other "soft" sciences with evidence for polyamory.  Anthropology and psychology for instance.  Hell, one of the first things couples therapists recommend for couples bored with their sex life is to roleplay as other people.  Why pretend to be other people if there isn't a strong urge to have variety?

Your analogy of eating steak is a poor one.  A more accurate analogy would be eating a whole pie.  There are no laws against eating a whole pie.  There are no laws against eating a whole pie every day.  Will you get fat?  Most likely.  Might you stay thin?  Sure, but that would be very lucky.  Its probably the same odds as a poly-amorous couple surviving any long term relationship.

I guess pie is better, although I was thinking of one of those giant "manage to eat the whole thing and it's free" steaks.  But I like pie, so fine... it doesn't actually change anything.

But you know what?  You can pick a sensible path and enjoy steak, pie, extramarital sex, alcohol or just about anything that isn't instantly debillitating.  It depends on doing it in an intelligent way and on moderation.

Pie?  Eat a slice of pie each day, or only eat pie on the days you have really intense workouts to make up for it.
Extramarital sex?  Make sure everything is up front, above-board and you treat everyone with respect and make time for the people you care about.

There's a difference between enjoying pie and being a glutton.
There's a difference between banging everything that breathes and loving more than one person.

But at the core, both are motivated by basic biology.

That said, don't eat a whole pie and then justify it by saying biologically, our bodies are made to consume as much as possible to make up for the lean times.  If you sit down and eat a whole pie, you are a glutton.  Plain and simple.  Eat all the pies you want, just own what you are is all I'm saying.

Well, our bodies are inclined to do exactly that as part of our survival strategy.  We've learned that in many ways we are better off not doing so, mostly because there is so much food available that it's harmful.  That doesn't mean biology isn't driving the desire to order desert after eating a huge dinner at a nice restaurant.  It just means we can be smart enough to set limits and moderate our biological urges.

Biology drives our behavior to a very large extent.  Our rationality sits on top of our biology and instincts and attempts to moderate things.  But biology/instinct still underlies pretty much everything.
 
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