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2013-02-13 09:04:00 AM  
fta: Thirty-odd Democrats had invited the families of gun violence victims to sit for the speech

And the GOP brought Nugent.

Basically they brought a rubber chicken to a gun fight.
 
2013-02-13 09:07:53 AM  
The one FB comment I saw this morning had to do with the President insisting "every American give their fair share", and taking it to mean they were going to have to give more to the lazy browned poors.

I'm curious how they feel about the need for reform in the Pentagon's procurement process, or Medicare reform.

Nah, clearly the greatest financial waste our nation faces is the poors.
 
2013-02-13 09:35:58 AM  
the GOP was going to be angry with Obama no matter what the man said in his speech.
 
2013-02-13 09:44:32 AM  
Yeah, Obama.  The election is over, so stop talking about things that appeal to a majority and just do what the Republicans want!

OH, the arrogance of that man!!
 
2013-02-13 10:14:42 AM  
I do kind of like the idea that Obama has realized nothing is ever going to get through Congress anyway, so he might as well talk about being as liberal as he concieveably is willing to be and push as many policies as possible. Can't hurt.
 
2013-02-13 10:19:36 AM  

quatchi: fta: Thirty-odd Democrats had invited the families of gun violence victims to sit for the speech

And the GOP brought Nugent.

Basically they brought a rubber chicken to a gun fight.


The Democrats brought the faces of people who deserves a better life in a country that cared what happened to them.

The Republicans brought a man who blames the kids for getting shot.

This is the fundamental difference between the right and left: when society fails to protect those who deserve it, Democrats try to fix society so needless deaths don't happen.  Republicans blame the victims for their deaths for not knowing better.
 
2013-02-13 10:21:54 AM  
GAT_00:
This is the fundamental difference between the right and left: when society fails to protect those who deserve it, Democrats try to fix society so needless deaths don't happen.  Republicans blame the victims for their deaths for not knowing better.

i'd really like to find a way to disagree with this statement...but I think that recent history certainly seems to bear it out.
 
2013-02-13 10:56:50 AM  

Weaver95: the GOP was going to be angry with Obama no matter what the man said in his speech.


"Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"

"THIS IS AN ASSAULT ON VANILLA ECLAIRS AND MONDAYS."
 
2013-02-13 11:04:44 AM  

quatchi: And the GOP brought Nugent.

Basically they brought a rubber chicken to a gun fight.


I think you won the internets today.

How anyone can vote Republican anymore is beyond me. But I meet them all the time.
 
2013-02-13 11:05:55 AM  

GAT_00: quatchi: fta: Thirty-odd Democrats had invited the families of gun violence victims to sit for the speech

And the GOP brought Nugent.

Basically they brought a rubber chicken to a gun fight.

The Democrats brought the faces of people who deserves a better life in a country that cared what happened to them.

The Republicans brought a man who blames the kids for getting shot.

This is the fundamental difference between the right and left: when society fails to protect those who deserve it, Democrats try to fix society so needless deaths don't happen.  Republicans blame the victims for their deaths for not knowing better.


Sometimes I hate you when you're right.
 
2013-02-13 11:06:14 AM  
Let's see what people here think.

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(click on image to vote)
 
2013-02-13 11:06:23 AM  
Why can't the President compromise by proposing the Paul Ryan budget with more welfare cuts and deeper tax cuts for the Job Creators?
 
2013-02-13 11:07:40 AM  

Weaver95: GAT_00:
This is the fundamental difference between the right and left: when society fails to protect those who deserve it, Democrats try to fix society so needless deaths don't happen.  Republicans blame the victims for their deaths for not knowing better.

i'd really like to find a way to disagree with this statement...but I think that recent history certainly seems to bear it out.


Recent? This conservative mindset has been around since at least Carnegie and Rockefeller. I mean, all you need is a pair of bootstraps and you too can pull yourself out of the gutter!
 
2013-02-13 11:08:32 AM  

Weaver95: the GOP was going to be angry with Obama no matter what the man said in his speech.


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2013-02-13 11:08:36 AM  
"There are more people killed with baseball bats and hammers than are killed with guns," said Rep. Paul Broun, a Georgia conservative who's leaving an ultra-safe seat to run for the Senate. "

Is there any chance at all that's remotely close to true?
 
2013-02-13 11:08:56 AM  

DamnYankees: I do kind of like the idea that Obama has realized nothing is ever going to get through Congress anyway, so he might as well talk about being as liberal as he concieveably is willing to be and push as many policies as possible. Can't hurt.


In all fairness, he's not, really.  He's still running pretty centrist, he's just realized that the GOP loudmouths have nothing to actually contribute and has started going straight to the reasonable ones interested in favor=trading or compromise directly without paying the normal respect to the party as an organization.

I mean "background checks on gun purchases" as your primary mention of gun-control isn't exactly controversial, it polls at 85%+ approval in  Fox News Polls.

//I cannot say I disapprove of his general "I'm done with your shiat" tone, though, it's kinda satisfying after two years of treating Tea Partiers like actual human adults.
 
2013-02-13 11:09:14 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Why can't the President compromise by proposing the Paul Ryan budget with more welfare cuts and deeper tax cuts for the Job Creators?


If he did you know they would just filibuster the shiat out it.
 
2013-02-13 11:10:28 AM  

Cletus C.: "There are more people killed with baseball bats and hammers than are killed with guns," said Rep. Paul Broun, a Georgia conservative who's leaving an ultra-safe seat to run for the Senate. "

Is there any chance at all that's remotely close to true?


Not according to this one site I could find:

http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/333_murder_victims_circumstance s_ and_weapons_used.html

Deaths by guns, worldwide, are 11 times more common than deaths by all blunt objects combined, which included bats and hammer. And the US obviously has more gun deaths than the world average.
 
2013-02-13 11:10:35 AM  
At this point if you're Obama, you have to be playing for 2014.  The Republican Congress already suffered over the tax cut debate (the polls showing most people blamed them for the problems).  Now you just want them to do the same for the sequestration and debt ceiling issue.
 
2013-02-13 11:11:22 AM  

Jim_Callahan: In all fairness, he's not, really.  He's still running pretty centrist, he's just realized that the GOP loudmouths have nothing to actually contribute and has started going straight to the reasonable ones interested in favor=trading or compromise directly without paying the normal respect to the party as an organization.

I mean "background checks on gun purchases" as your primary mention of gun-control isn't exactly controversial, it polls at 85%+ approval in  Fox News Polls.

//I cannot say I disapprove of his general "I'm done with your shiat" tone, though, it's kinda satisfying after two years of treating Tea Partiers like actual human adults.


I don't disagree. That's why I said "as liberal as he concieveably is willing to be", as opposed to just liberal.
 
2013-02-13 11:12:02 AM  
I will agree with republicans that it is the fault of the working class for all the woes they have suffered recently.  Though, that is where our agreement ends.  I believe the working class has lost its way and the working class needs to be much more militant and more forceful in dealing with managers and owners.
 
2013-02-13 11:12:55 AM  
FTFA quoting Ted Nugent "every military guy, every cop, has an Uncle Ted story..."

You mean the one where you quit bathing and shiat yourself for a week to get out of being drafted? That one?
 
2013-02-13 11:14:16 AM  

DamnYankees: Cletus C.: "There are more people killed with baseball bats and hammers than are killed with guns," said Rep. Paul Broun, a Georgia conservative who's leaving an ultra-safe seat to run for the Senate. "

Is there any chance at all that's remotely close to true?

Not according to this one site I could find:

http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/333_murder_victims_circumstance s_ and_weapons_used.html

Deaths by guns, worldwide, are 11 times more common than deaths by all blunt objects combined, which included bats and hammer. And the US obviously has more gun deaths than the world average.


I think Paul Broun needs to have that shiat thrown in his face his entire Senate campaign. Farking liar.
 
2013-02-13 11:15:30 AM  
Surely the problem the Republicans have is they are letting the Democrats own the terminology of the debate - in the same way that people that murder doctors are "pro-life", they need to get the media to relabel gun massacres to "freedom incidents" or something, so anyone campaigning against gun massacres can be branded anti-freedom.
 
2013-02-13 11:18:29 AM  
Wait, Republicans don't like what the democrats are selling the American people voted for in November?
 
2013-02-13 11:20:59 AM  

DamnYankees: I do kind of like the idea that Obama has realized nothing is ever going to get through Congress anyway, so he might as well talk about being as liberal as he concieveably is willing to be and push as many policies as possible. Can't hurt.


You think that was liberal? Half of it was ideas pushed by Republicans in the 70's and 80's.

Public/Private partnerships in:
- state directed job training programs
- state directed pre-k education
- state and federal directed road/bridge repair
- cyber-defense
- scientific R&D (read 'grants and tax breaks to big companies')
Also:
- Social Security and Medicare using income caps.
- Closing tax loop-holes but not rate increases.
- increased and faster coal, natural gas, and oil permits

Increasing the minimum wage, equal pay for women, easier voting, tax breaks for green power, and asking for an 'up-or-down vote' on background checks for private gun sales is about it for 'liberal' stuff. And even conservatives have supported tax breaks for big industries and a background check in the past even if get didn't push it themselves.

That was not a liberal firebrand speech.
 
2013-02-13 11:21:36 AM  
Republicans very disappointed that Democratic President insists on pushing highly popular Democratic ideology

More accurate. Dems pretty much have a monopoly on popular public policy.
 
2013-02-13 11:21:49 AM  
FTFA: "If you walk the halls with me," he told a National Review writer, "every military guy, every cop, has an Uncle Ted story. See the smile on my face? These are my buddies here. I'm surrounded by working hard, playing hard Americans."

Nugent was shepherded over to a standing MSNBC camera. Two police officers looked on, confused by the mobile media herd.
"Who's that?" asked one cop.
"It's Ted Nugent," said the other cop. "He's a rock star, he talks about guns."
 "Really? Never heard of him."


This rocks.
 
2013-02-13 11:25:34 AM  
"If you walk the halls with me," he told a National Review writer, "every military guy, every cop, has an Uncle Ted story. See the smile on my face? These are my buddies here. I'm surrounded by working hard, playing hard Americans."

WTF does that mean?

"Universal background checks is actually a policy that's been put in place, historically, to lead to confiscation of guns.

Bullshiat. No one is taking your guns. NO ONE. How would they even do this? The infrastructure needed to take guns from people would be immense, and not politically practical in any way, shape, or form. Hell, we were barely able to get Congress to approve of road and rail infrastructure for the stimulus.

It's the most dangerous attack on freedom I've seen since I've been in Congress."

HA! Has he not read the Patriot Act?

"How do you enforce the law of a background check between everyday buyers and sellers?"

Umm... maybe regulate who is able to sell guns? If a criminal is found with a gun registered to you, and you didn't run a background check, your license is revoked, and you're punished. Seems pretty simple.

A cynic might have looked at Nugent then, attracting swarms of reporters below statues of Bob LaFollette and Huey Long, and asked why the media went so astray. It's a good question.

No, it's a great question, not limited to cynics. Stop giving Nugent the attention he so craves. He has nothing of substance to add about anything. Stop quoting him. Stop writing articles about him. Stop writing articles about other reporters writing about him. Just don't look.
 
2013-02-13 11:28:20 AM  

mahuika: "Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"


To be fair, as a parent of young children who enjoys sleeping when possible, I would not be in favor of distributing chocolate eclairs to babies.
 
2013-02-13 11:30:02 AM  

DamnYankees: Cletus C.: "There are more people killed with baseball bats and hammers than are killed with guns," said Rep. Paul Broun, a Georgia conservative who's leaving an ultra-safe seat to run for the Senate. "

Is there any chance at all that's remotely close to true?

Not according to this one site I could find:

http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/333_murder_victims_circumstance s_ and_weapons_used.html

Deaths by guns, worldwide, are 11 times more common than deaths by all blunt objects combined, which included bats and hammer. And the US obviously has more gun deaths than the world average.


Well, it wasn't intended to be a factual statement.
 
2013-02-13 11:30:02 AM  
Mandate. Sounds like what homos do. -GOP

i.qkme.me
 
2013-02-13 11:30:29 AM  

Somacandra: mahuika: "Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"

To be fair, as a parent of young children who enjoys sleeping when possible, I would not be in favor of distributing chocolate eclairs to babies.


As an American with no kids, I wanna know why Obama is screwing me out of a chocolate eclair!

OK, I demand Monday off as well.
 
2013-02-13 11:41:05 AM  

Cletus C.: "There are more people killed with baseball bats and hammers than are killed with guns," said Rep. Paul Broun, a Georgia conservative who's leaving an ultra-safe seat to run for the Senate. "

Is there any chance at all that's remotely close to true?


No. There are more killings with bats and hammers then there are with "assault weapons" however, and that is occasionally a talking point. He either choked while regurgitating it or is trying some dishonest one upsmanship.
 
2013-02-13 11:42:05 AM  

danvon: FTFA quoting Ted Nugent "every military guy, every cop, has an Uncle Ted story..."

You mean the one where you quit bathing and shiat yourself for a week to get out of being drafted? That one?


No, that's the one where he told a stoned reporter for High Times that story in 1977, and the reporter bought it.

Now, it may or may not be true, *BUT*, given Ted's expansive, erm, personality, and the fact that the reporter was from a magazine that really wasn't part of the cutting edge of journalistic veritas back then, you really have to wonder about the story.

Certainly, I wouldn't take it as gospel.
 
2013-02-13 11:45:29 AM  

Somacandra: mahuika: "Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"

To be fair, as a parent of young children who enjoys sleeping when possible, I would not be in favor of distributing chocolate eclairs to babies.


Well if you are concerned about sleeping then give that baby an eclair.  I would be more concerned with it being a choking hazard than a sugar/caffeine thing.
 
2013-02-13 11:45:40 AM  
Not that anything I think matters....   but here goes.   That speech could have been given by Reagan, Clinton, Bush.   There was very little substance, which is the norm.   Rubio's response was just as repetitive.   I could have written both of those speeches.
 
2013-02-13 11:45:52 AM  

Teufelaffe: GAT_00: quatchi: fta: Thirty-odd Democrats had invited the families of gun violence victims to sit for the speech

And the GOP brought Nugent.

Basically they brought a rubber chicken to a gun fight.

The Democrats brought the faces of people who deserves a better life in a country that cared what happened to them.

The Republicans brought a man who blames the kids for getting shot.

This is the fundamental difference between the right and left: when society fails to protect those who deserve it, Democrats try to fix society so needless deaths don't happen.  Republicans blame the victims for their deaths for not knowing better.

Sometimes I hate you when you're right.


I like hearing stuff like that.  It's a good sign when people don't like what you said but can't argue with it.
 
2013-02-13 11:46:05 AM  
I'm torn.

On the one hand, Ted Nugent hasn't had a musically relevant moment since the 70's (NO! Damn Yankees does not count! Hang your head in shame!), and we shouldn't care about anything he thinks besides his opinion these damn kids and their techno rap.

On the other hand, yes, please keep him around GOP, because eventually he's going to do or say something so incredibly stupid that not even your uncle in Omaha who spends every weekend sniping prairie dogs will be able to defend him.
 
2013-02-13 11:51:08 AM  

jayhawk88: (NO! Damn Yankees does not count! Hang your head in shame!)


Now I feel bad.
 
2013-02-13 11:53:25 AM  
mahuika: "Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"


Edicts of former Spanish Monarchs lack any force in the United States.
 
2013-02-13 11:53:58 AM  

Car_Ramrod: "If you walk the halls with me," he told a National Review writer, "every military guy, every cop, has an Uncle Ted story. See the smile on my face? These are my buddies here. I'm surrounded by working hard, playing hard Americans."

WTF does that mean?


It means he, like many before him, hearing the adulation heaped upon him by some members of the military, assumes ALL servicemembers vociferously support him and his insane philosophies.

Of course, any servicemember who bothered reading Nugent's shameful explanation of why he couldn't go to Vietnam would immediately volunteer him to be tank armor, but that's another story.

// hearing my brother talk about his comrades' reactions to learning that Nuge was a literal pants-pisser was a good time
// apparently, 3 months of basic turns these kids into swear-machines
// like 50 drunken fark rants (and the accordant made-up pejoratives, like "douchecanoe" or "cockmonkey") condensed into 6 withering words
 
2013-02-13 11:54:14 AM  
Not sure if the Republicans have thought about it, but maybe putting some ideas forward and selling it to the American people, and doing something positive for people might get more people not to laugh at you and your ideas.

The "whatever the blah person is for, we are against" is getting tiresome.
 
2013-02-13 12:02:18 PM  

DamnYankees: jayhawk88: (NO! Damn Yankees does not count! Hang your head in shame!)

Now I feel bad.


OK that made me laugh.
 
2013-02-13 12:03:37 PM  
Obama's presidency has been eerily similar to the plot of The West Wing.
 
2013-02-13 12:04:30 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Obama's presidency has been eerily similar to the plot of The West Wing.


How? Obama is vastly more successful a President than Bartlett - and much more liberal.
 
2013-02-13 12:09:20 PM  

dittybopper: danvon: FTFA quoting Ted Nugent "every military guy, every cop, has an Uncle Ted story..."

You mean the one where you quit bathing and shiat yourself for a week to get out of being drafted? That one?

No, that's the one where he told a stoned reporter for High Times that story in 1977, and the reporter bought it.

Now, it may or may not be true, *BUT*, given Ted's expansive, erm, personality, and the fact that the reporter was from a magazine that really wasn't part of the cutting edge of journalistic veritas back then, you really have to wonder about the story.

Certainly, I wouldn't take it as gospel.


So Ted was just an ordinary draft dodger then.
 
2013-02-13 12:10:12 PM  

jayhawk88: On the one hand, Ted Nugent hasn't had a musically relevant moment since the 70's (NO! Damn Yankees does not count! Hang your head in shame!), and we shouldn't care about anything he thinks besides his opinion these damn kids and their techno rap.


Their first album was good for the time period.
 
2013-02-13 12:13:50 PM  

Riothamus: mahuika: "Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"


Edicts of former Spanish Monarchs lack any force in the United States.


You push for laws like that, you deserve to work for the Pizza Pizza.
 
2013-02-13 12:17:34 PM  

BunkoSquad: Riothamus: mahuika: "Let's make Friday part of the weekend, and give every new baby a chocolate eclair!"


Edicts of former Spanish Monarchs lack any force in the United States.

You push for laws like that, you deserve to work for the Pizza Pizza.


Or to vacuum the turf at skydome
 
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