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(WCPO Cincinnati)   In a decision that is sure to have the district's lawyer beating his head against the table, Jackson, OH school board votes 4-0 to keep up the picture of Jesus that's hanging in the high school   (wcpo.com) divider line 201
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2013-02-13 09:07:06 AM
It's like they just don't get it.

Weird.
 
2013-02-13 09:12:06 AM
I wonder if it's white, blond, blue-eyed Jesus.

I like my false idols extra false.
 
2013-02-13 09:34:54 AM
FFRF and the ACLU just started to limber up.
 
2013-02-13 09:41:34 AM

Vodka Zombie: It's like they just don't get it.

Weird.


They totally get it.  The Christians get to have their picture of Jesus in the school because the kids wanted it.  Pictures of deities from other religions can be hung too, if there are enough students to form a club (which has to be approved by the school), and the club requests to have a picture (which has to be approved by the school) hung in the space.  How many students that don't practice Christianity attend the middle school in Jackson County, Ohio?  Checkmate.  Amen.

/going to make some popcorn
 
2013-02-13 09:52:11 AM
To be fair...there are probably tons of blank spaces in the school for the Atheists.
 
2013-02-13 09:53:28 AM
i209.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-13 09:54:26 AM
Is it this picture?

crossfitkyle.com

Because I don't think that Jesus should be around school children either.
 
2013-02-13 09:54:39 AM
Where is my bag of popcorn when you need it?
 
2013-02-13 09:54:44 AM
fruitloop: Vodka Zombie: It's like they just don't get it.

Weird.

They totally get it.  The Christians get to have their picture of Jesus in the school because the kids wanted it.  Pictures of deities from other religions can be hung too, if there are enough students to form a club (which has to be approved by the school), and the club requests to have a picture (which has to be approved by the school) hung in the space.  How many students that don't practice Christianity attend the middle school in Jackson County, Ohio?  Checkmate.  Amen.

/going to make some popcorn


The Courthouse in Cumberland co TN has a statue of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on its ground from where some ACLU troll tried sueing then they said they would gladly put up any statue that any religious group wanted to pay for.
 
2013-02-13 09:55:33 AM
What is a "Hi-Y" club exactly?

FTA
After huddling with attorneys in closed session the board said the portrait belongs to the student group that put it up, the Hi-Y club. It says it will allow other student clubs to hang portraits appropriate to their organizations.
 
2013-02-13 09:55:50 AM
The district's lawyer is actually salivating about the hours he will get to bill on this one.  The people that will really suffer are the students and taxpayers who have to fund this.  But they are the fools who "overwhelmingly" support the idea of displaying religious icons in their school.  Of course, they would be the first to crap their pants if the school board decided to display icons from other religions in the school...
 
2013-02-13 09:56:22 AM
I didn't know they had camera's back then.
 
2013-02-13 09:56:43 AM
This was a news snippet and didn't satisfy.  I'm sure there is an article out there with a picture of the portrait and maybe more background info.  Off to teh Googles...
 
2013-02-13 09:56:46 AM
saying it is protecting students' free speech rights.

Yeah, except it's the opposite of that.
 
2013-02-13 09:57:00 AM
Huh? What's the big deal about a picture of Cesare Borgia?
 
2013-02-13 09:57:20 AM
oneguyrambling.com
What's unconstitutional about this?
 
2013-02-13 09:57:20 AM
After huddling with attorneys in closed session the board said the portrait belongs to the student group that put it up, the Hi-Y club. It says it will allow other student clubs to hang portraits appropriate to their organizations.

Okay, Kickstarter campaign to fund new student groups there and buy large oil portraits of:
www.hf.uib.no 1.bp.blogspot.com
4.bp.blogspot.comupload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-13 09:57:30 AM
As an atheist...

I really don't understand what the big deal is.  It's just a picture.  Seriously.  To some people, it's the son of god and makes them feel good.  To others... it's just a picture.

There's a church on my street!
I demand it gets torn down!
It offends my senses!


If a picture of Jesus offends you, you have other issues.

/overactive sense of self-entitlement being one...
9_9
 
2013-02-13 09:58:24 AM
In a decision that is sure to have the district's lawyer beating his head against the table banking more billable hours/counting on stable employment.
 
2013-02-13 09:58:36 AM

b8zlbubba: The district's lawyer is actually salivating about the hours he will get to bill on this one.


Someone doesn't know how government positions work.
 
2013-02-13 09:58:38 AM
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-02-13 09:58:57 AM

TommyJReed: What is a "Hi-Y" club exactly?

FTA
After huddling with attorneys in closed session the board said the portrait belongs to the student group that put it up, the Hi-Y club. It says it will allow other student clubs to hang portraits appropriate to their organizations.


"Students for Responsible Porn Use" seen reviewing tasteful posters...

// "The Inverted-V Club"
// "Zimbabwean Cartography Club"
// (that one might be a bit esoteric - Google a song called "Map of Zimbabwe". SFW, I think)
 
2013-02-13 09:59:15 AM

mechgreg: Is it this picture?

[crossfitkyle.com image 239x300]

Because I don't think that Jesus should be around school children either.


Dammit! Your post wasn't there when I went looking for the pic.
 
2013-02-13 09:59:43 AM

factoryconnection: This was a news snippet and didn't satisfy.  I'm sure there is an article out there with a picture of the portrait and maybe more background info.  Off to teh Googles...




Oh, wait: TFA has a link to a more informative article.
 
2013-02-13 10:00:23 AM
You cannot restrict practice of religion seperation of church and stae is not the same as restricting religion. Look up "lemon test" at firstamendmentcenter.org. It is dumbed down enough that you should understand it.
 
2013-02-13 10:00:28 AM

mechgreg: Is it this picture?

[crossfitkyle.com image 239x300]

Because I don't think that Jesus should be around school children either.


www.southdacola.com
 
2013-02-13 10:00:39 AM

Galvatron Zero: As an atheist...

I really don't understand what the big deal is.  It's just a picture.  Seriously.  To some people, it's the son of god and makes them feel good.  To others... it's just a picture.

There's a church on my street!
I demand it gets torn down!
It offends my senses!

If a picture of Jesus offends you, you have other issues.

/overactive sense of self-entitlement being one...
9_9


Yep. Ban Jesus, and watch him become more powerful than you ever imagined. Hey, it works for books! And also it worked for the Romans.
 
2013-02-13 10:00:41 AM

Dr Dreidel: // "The Inverted-V Club"


Should be "Inverted-Triangle" and "Low-V" clubs.
 
2013-02-13 10:00:48 AM
Is it the one where he's farking the archaeopteryx? 'Cause, man, I  think that one's educational.
 
2013-02-13 10:01:21 AM

Galvatron Zero: As an atheist...

I really don't understand what the big deal is.  It's just a picture.  Seriously.  To some people, it's the son of god and makes them feel good.  To others... it's just a picture.

There's a church on my street!
I demand it gets torn down!
It offends my senses!

If a picture of Jesus offends you, you have other issues.

/overactive sense of self-entitlement being one...
9_9


This.
Plus its not like anything is "funded".  its a student group.  If it was bought, paid for, and managed by the school, and other clubs/organizations were prevented from hanging there's you have a problem.

/chill, all the unnecessary squealing does is fuel unjustified persecution complexes
 
2013-02-13 10:02:26 AM

Deep Contact: I didn't know they had camera's back then.


I didn't know they had apostrophes .
 
2013-02-13 10:02:54 AM
Being realistic, if they followed the Constitution, there would be 4 new school board members after the next election.
 
2013-02-13 10:03:40 AM

TommyJReed: What is a "Hi-Y" club exactly?


Hadn't heard of it before this, but apparently it's a branch of the YMCA that does clubs in high schools.
 
2013-02-13 10:04:41 AM

Feral_and_Preposterous: archaeopteryx


Is that a wingless flightless hairy bird?
 
2013-02-13 10:05:21 AM

Dr Dreidel: // "Zimbabwean Cartography Club"
// (that one might be a bit esoteric - Google a song called "Map of Zimbabwe". SFW, I think)


Are you looking for Amanda Palmer's <a href="http://music.amandapalmer.net/track/map-of-tasmania-feat-the-yo ung-pun x "> Map of Tasmania</a> song?
 
2013-02-13 10:05:34 AM
Maybe the school could find something less obvious than a portrait...
i290.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-13 10:06:20 AM
I say keep all things equal here.
Just put up a picture of Muhammad right nest to it.
Problem solved.
 
2013-02-13 10:06:30 AM
Just hang a picture of Muhammad next to it. I'm sure that will solve all of their problems.
 
2013-02-13 10:06:45 AM

Mija: You cannot restrict practice of religion seperation of church and stae is not the same as restricting religion. Look up "lemon test" at firstamendmentcenter.org. It is dumbed down enough that you should understand it.


I would consider doing so, but it's gonna take me at least 20 minutes to parse that first sentence of yours. That's all the free  time I have in a day.
 
2013-02-13 10:07:01 AM
Jesus continues to not give a fark. Though his dad thinks these people are getting pretty close to idol worship.
 
2013-02-13 10:07:18 AM

Carth: Just hang a picture of Muhammad next to it. I'm sure that will solve all of their problems.


You owe a beer.
 
2013-02-13 10:07:52 AM

Theaetetus: Someone doesn't know how government positions work.


Having spent the last 15 years around government agencies - you are right and wrong.

It really depends on the size of the district.  In many cases small districts have to hire private attorneys as needed or get help from the state Dept of Ed.  Usually these positions are long-standing agreements and are re-bid every year or every few years.

Larger districts do have attorneys.
 
2013-02-13 10:07:53 AM

Oldiron_79: The Courthouse in Cumberland co TN has a statue of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on its ground from where some ACLU troll tried sueing then they said they would gladly put up any statue that any religious group wanted to pay for.


I'm curious how long that would last should the Church of Satan decide to pay for one...
 
2013-02-13 10:08:01 AM

Galvatron Zero: As an atheist...

I really don't understand what the big deal is.  It's just a picture.  Seriously.  To some people, it's the son of god and makes them feel good.  To others... it's just a picture.

There's a church on my street!
I demand it gets torn down!
It offends my senses!

If a picture of Jesus offends you, you have other issues.

/overactive sense of self-entitlement being one...
9_9


Its not the picture of Jesus, its the tacit symbol of Christianity as the official religion of the school that is wrong, along with the idea that religion belongs in school in the first place.
 
2013-02-13 10:08:23 AM
Crucify them. Three nails to the Board. The pope won't mind. Neither will the kids.
 
2013-02-13 10:08:55 AM
Perhaps a more appropriate deity... One connected with wisdom and self-sacrifice for knowledge?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-02-13 10:09:41 AM

vudukungfu: I say keep all things equal here.
Just put up a picture of Muhammad right nest to it.
Problem solved.


If we're going to get people killed, there are better places to cleanse the gene pool than OH.
 
2013-02-13 10:09:48 AM

Galvatron Zero: As an atheist...

I really don't understand what the big deal is.  It's just a picture.  Seriously.  To some people, it's the son of god and makes them feel good.  To others... it's just a picture.

There's a church on my street!
I demand it gets torn down!
It offends my senses!

If a picture of Jesus offends you, you have other issues.

/overactive sense of self-entitlement being one...
9_9


Wicked Chinchilla: This.
Plus its not like anything is "funded".  its a student group.  If it was bought, paid for, and managed by the school, and other clubs/organizations were prevented from hanging there's you have a problem.

/chill, all the unnecessary squealing does is fuel unjustified persecution complexes



Really guys?  There should be no religious imagery or influence at all, period, in any public school anywhere.  On the other hand X, church, mosque, or temple on x street has every right to be where it is.  People that don't see the different between public and private in their religious tolerance or outrage aren't thinking at a high enough level.
 
2013-02-13 10:09:49 AM

jonohull: Yeah, except it's the opposite of that.


They'll argue that there are no free speech rights in a public school in any other situation where they attempt to deny a student from wearing a t-shirt they don't like, scrubbing an article in the school newspaper, telling some kid that his hair dye is unacceptable, hair is too long, etc.
 
2013-02-13 10:09:57 AM
I guess these guys didn't hear how things ended for a school making nearly identical arguments in Cranston, Rhode Island.

/for anyone else who doesn't know, the school board lost the case as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars attempting to fight it.
 
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