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(National Review)   The latest scourge that's ravaging our children and causing trillions of deaths every day: Fun. I mean, amusement park rides   (nationalreview.com) divider line 71
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2013-02-13 08:56:13 AM  
Oh go roll bubble wrap around your face, Markey.
 
2013-02-13 09:21:57 AM  
You can have my roller coasters when you pry them from my cold dead hands.  I go to theme parks as often as possible and have ridden coasters thousands of times I'm far more likely to be injured in a car accident on the way to the park than on the ride.

/we need to do a farkoasterfest again.
 
2013-02-13 09:31:12 AM  
Well, you get a free high colonic on water slides.
 
2013-02-13 09:32:51 AM  
NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.
 
2013-02-13 09:35:10 AM  
Federal regulation on amusement park rides? Well, it will be good for the skydiving industry.
 
2013-02-13 09:36:31 AM  
Markey can be a jerk.  There used to be bunch of amusement parks in MA, but they all closed down except for 6 Flags, which used to be Riverside Park, and Canobie Lake Park in NH.  He had nothing to do with it, but when the economy isn't great, people do not go to amusement parks so much.
 
2013-02-13 09:36:41 AM  
Gotta concur with this guy. I've heard that Disney World is basically just an abattoir for tourists.
 
2013-02-13 09:36:42 AM  
Drawing on his unholy blend of ignorant outrage...

He said in an article dedicated to flying off the handle about a single state Senator's pet cause....

STFU, NRO, you cocks.
 
2013-02-13 09:38:15 AM  
wheeee!!!!...wait, what?
 
2013-02-13 09:40:04 AM  
I just knew all that standing in line wasn't good for you.
 
2013-02-13 09:44:09 AM  
This wouldn't happen if everybody had a roller coaster and knew how to use it.
 
2013-02-13 09:44:32 AM  

oldfarthenry: Gotta concur with this guy. I've heard that Disney World is basically just an abattoir for tourists.


Shhhh!  Best kept secret in Orlando.

*gets cut off by hapless tourist driver*

"Damn these farking tourists!"

"Don't worry.  He'll get his."

Why do you think the only annual pass I get is at Universal?
 
2013-02-13 09:45:30 AM  
The Unnatural Review Online says the opposite.   The pictures are blurry.
 
2013-02-13 09:48:52 AM  
I'm certain the NRO is in no way misrepresenting the views of a Democratic congressman.
 
2013-02-13 09:51:30 AM  
awesome i got a add for great wolf lodge and it's death slids in the article!!
 
2013-02-13 09:53:32 AM  
This is what it means to say "Never Again," folks. This is what it means to try to "prevent" freak situations: only micromanagement can even come close to doing that. This is why those words should not be used lightly.
 
2013-02-13 09:54:05 AM  
FTFA:   If you're still moved to write your local representative to see if he can do anything to increase your life expectancy, then perhaps consider this first: Americans are 5,000 times more likely to be legally executed by their own government than to die on a roller coaster. Priorities, priorities.

Did the NRO really just take a shot at capital punishment?  Wow.
 
2013-02-13 09:59:01 AM  

NewWorldDan: FTFA:   If you're still moved to write your local representative to see if he can do anything to increase your life expectancy, then perhaps consider this first: Americans are 5,000 times more likely to be legally executed by their own government than to die on a roller coaster. Priorities, priorities.

Did the NRO really just take a shot at capital punishment?  Wow.


Obama's president, so capital punishment is being executed by the state. Next time a Rep is in charge, it will resume its status as removing turds from the gene pool.
 
2013-02-13 09:59:49 AM  

NewWorldDan: FTFA:   If you're still moved to write your local representative to see if he can do anything to increase your life expectancy, then perhaps consider this first: Americans are 5,000 times more likely to be legally executed by their own government than to die on a roller coaster. Priorities, priorities.

Did the NRO really just take a shot at capital punishment?  Wow.


When they're against something, they go berserk and throw everything they can at it.  Even if it's contradictory to their established positions.

That's roughly how the NRO got to the point of saying the massive genocide of Jews and others by the Nazis was 'sensible.'
 
2013-02-13 09:59:53 AM  
Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...
 
2013-02-13 10:00:23 AM  

justneal: awesome i got a add for great wolf lodge and it's death slids in the article!!


Took the kiddies there years ago. They had to shut the pool down for twenty minutes while the "floater" went through the filter system. It was off-putting.
 
2013-02-13 10:01:05 AM  
Does this guy want to ban roller coasters or have the government inspect them for safety?  Cause I don't really see a problem with standardized safety requirements for things that can kill you.  Screaming sic semper tyrannus every time a liberal sneezes isn't making you look reasonable.
 
2013-02-13 10:02:43 AM  

oldfarthenry: justneal: awesome i got a add for great wolf lodge and it's death slids in the article!!

Took the kiddies there years ago. They had to shut the pool down for twenty minutes while the "floater" went through the filter system. It was off-putting.


Pffft.  That's part of the thrill!
 
2013-02-13 10:06:57 AM  

oldfarthenry: justneal: awesome i got a add for great wolf lodge and it's death slids in the article!!

Took the kiddies there years ago. They had to shut the pool down for twenty minutes while the "floater" went through the filter system. It was off-pudding.


I don't see what you were so worried about.

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-13 10:14:42 AM  

StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.


What are you babbling on about?
 
2013-02-13 10:15:03 AM  
i.usatoday.net

"Good thing you clarified that, subby!  We'd be really sad if we caused all those deaths!"
 
2013-02-13 10:16:55 AM  
synthesis.net
 
2013-02-13 10:18:54 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?


"Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was - and to which the president is - implacably opposed, but it is hardly "senseless."

Those poor, misunderstood Nazis.  Good thing the NRO is there to defend them and their sensible goals.
 
2013-02-13 10:19:22 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...


Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)
 
2013-02-13 10:22:52 AM  
Ah politicians, do they ever think?

"No, we need to increase the drinking age to 18 because 500 children go to the hospital!" (average age for hospitalisation: 15; number of 16 and 17 year olds: 400k)
"We need to stop private firework at the end of the year, roughly 600 people got hurt!" (26% used already illegal fireworks, a few percent fiddled with the fireworks. mount of people hit by a general ban: 13 million (assuming the people under 14 years of age don't use fireworks without parental supervision)
 
2013-02-13 10:27:13 AM  

DerAppie: Ah politicians, do they ever think?


Except his complaint is that the new designs are pushing the limits of the materials being used to construct them.

I have exactly no education in or knowledge of structural engineering, but you're gonna look pretty silly if he's right and one day a whole bunch of new roller coasters open up and kill a whole bunch of people.

Regardless, taking NRO at its word is about as stupid as you can get. It's just as likely this is just some minor concern of his but they're focusing in on it like a laser to the exclusion of the entirety of the rest of his platform. Because they're dishonest cocks and that's the sort of thing they do.
 
2013-02-13 10:27:25 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?


Oh nothing, just more of your retarded, inane conservative prattle...
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/339003/president-obama-commemor at es-senseless-holocaust-eliana-johnson
 
2013-02-13 10:29:06 AM  

Diogenes: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?

"Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was - and to which the president is - implacably opposed, but it is hardly "senseless."

Those poor, misunderstood Nazis.  Good thing the NRO is there to defend them and their sensible goals.


Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.)  Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

Think of it in terms of sensory selectivity, as in http://www.fark.com/goto/7586573/http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013 / 02/11/171409656/why-even-radiologists-can-miss-a-gorilla-hiding-in-pla in-sight and http://www.fark.com/comments/7586573/82472436#c82472436
 
2013-02-13 10:30:20 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...

Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)


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2013-02-13 10:34:12 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Diogenes: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?

"Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was - and to which the president is - implacably opposed, but it is hardly "senseless."

Those poor, misunderstood Nazis.  Good thing the NRO is there to defend them and their sensible goals.

Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.)  Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

Think of it in terms of sensory selectivity, as in http://www.fark.com/goto/7586573/http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013 / 02/11/171409656/why-even-radiologists-can-miss-a-gorilla-hiding-in-pla in-sight and http://www.fark.com/comments/7586573/82472436#c82472436


Holy fark, talk about a contrast between senseless/sensible.  You really can't do it, can you?  You farking pudding headed conservatives really can't take even the most mundane, agreeable, not containing any possible objectionable content statement the president makes and just agree with it without having your farking brains leak out of your ears.  You need farking help.
 
2013-02-13 10:34:30 AM  
For most Americans, this was a Good Thing.

Why is good thing capitalized?
 
2013-02-13 10:36:33 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...

Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)


I get the attempt at humor, in that it's moderately amusing to point out that an idiot politician's pet cause is something which causes far fewer fatalities than other things which are considered every-day normal.  My point is that the sentence is poorly-constructed.  Owning bunkbeds, skateboards, bicycles or sleds are not only NOT activities, but are also NOT inherently dangerous.  Skateboarding IS an activity, and can be dangerous.  OWNING a skateboard is passive, and NOT in-and-of-itself dangerous.  See the difference?

Given your knee-jerk reaction to immediately to label me as a "lib/prog", I understand that you may not have the intelligence to comprehend the subtleties of the English language, but let me assure you:  Words have specific meanings.
 
2013-02-13 10:39:12 AM  

Rapmaster2000: For most Americans, this was a Good Thing.

Why is good thing capitalized?


The author has a boner for Martha Stewart?
 
2013-02-13 10:42:12 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Diogenes: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?

"Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was - and to which the president is - implacably opposed, but it is hardly "senseless."

Those poor, misunderstood Nazis.  Good thing the NRO is there to defend them and their sensible goals.

Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.)  Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

Think of it in terms of sensory selectivity, as in http://www.fark.com/goto/7586573/http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013 / 02/11/171409656/why-even-radiologists-can-miss-a-gorilla-hiding-in-pla in-sight and http://www.fark.com/comments/7586573/82472436#c82472436


A sensible person would have concluded that the author of that article could have chosen her words more carefully.
 
2013-02-13 10:44:24 AM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: DerAppie: Ah politicians, do they ever think?

Except his complaint is that the new designs are pushing the limits of the materials being used to construct them.

I have exactly no education in or knowledge of structural engineering, but you're gonna look pretty silly if he's right and one day a whole bunch of new roller coasters open up and kill a whole bunch of people.


So we should have government oversight of a problem that does not exist?

I have exactly no education in or knowledge

You really did not need to state that.  We know.
 
2013-02-13 10:45:21 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.) Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).


So you would agree that it is totally worth taking the time to correct someone for saying murdering millions of people was senseless?
 
2013-02-13 10:45:33 AM  

Rapmaster2000: For most Americans, this was a Good Thing.

Why is good thing capitalized?



http://www.outpost9.com/reference/jargon/jargon_22.html#TAG778

Good Thing /n.,adj./
Often capitalized; always pronounced as if capitalized. 1. Self-evidently wonderful to anyone in a position to notice: "The Trailblazer's 19.2Kbaud PEP mode with on-the-fly Lempel-Ziv compression is a Good Thing for sites relaying netnews."
 
2013-02-13 10:46:34 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.) Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

So you would agree that it is totally worth taking the time to correct someone for saying murdering millions of people was senseless?


Not at all.  He'll contort himself to defend a conservative in any event.
 
2013-02-13 10:56:02 AM  

Oliver Twisted: So we should have government oversight of a problem that does not exist?


I don't know what "we" should do, but I'd suggest you should try increasing your IQ until you stop just believing whatever halfwit rags with a track of record of lying put into print on the internet for the purpose of scoring political points for the ideology they hold a bias toward.

Maybe the guy is a Nader-esque nut with no capacity for understanding scale and context. Maybe the NRO is just hyping up inconsequential bullshiat so they can slaver about LIBS! LIBS! LIBS!

Since I don't know anything about this politician, I can't really make any judgement on him. Since I've seen NRO fly off the handle like a bunch of sugared-up children pouring from an open minivan into a mall parking lot more times than I can count, however, I feel pretty confident in writing their position on it off until I see some evidence from a credible source.

Either way, though, I'm not going to care a whole lot. I didn't elect him, I can't vote him out, I don't really care about amusement parks to begin with and he's just one guy among hundreds in his institution anyway.

Let me know if something that matters happens.
 
2013-02-13 11:12:05 AM  
I'm usually not one to trust a self regulating market but the amusement park industry spends a lot of money and effort on safety and they take it very seriously. This isn't is really to their benefit as a single injury in a park can become a public relations nightmare and given the general stupidity of people...
 
2013-02-13 11:42:07 AM  
And how exactly are roller coasters "interstate commerce"?
 
2013-02-13 11:47:40 AM  

Lattices aren't Distributive: And how exactly are roller coasters "interstate commerce"?


Maybe he's thinking about state fairs?
 
2013-02-13 11:49:43 AM  
Y'all have been coddled since Action Park closed.
 
2013-02-13 11:55:02 AM  

offmymeds: Lattices aren't Distributive: And how exactly are roller coasters "interstate commerce"?

Maybe he's thinking about state fairs?


TFA says the opposite: he's going specifically for rides in fixed locations, not fairs that move around. But this is what the Commerce Clause has been stretched to, folks.
 
2013-02-13 12:07:55 PM  

Lattices aren't Distributive: And how exactly are roller coasters "interstate commerce"?


One of the many things I learned when serving on a Federal Grand Jury is that the Feds will consider something to be "interstate commerce" and thus subject to Federal law is that if any part of a thing is shipped in from out of state, it's covered by the Commerce Clause. This is most often seen in gun regulation, where if you use a gun to commit a felony the Feds can get involved if any single part of the gun or ammo used came from a different state, it falls under the purview of the US Government.

But since it's unlikely that any roller coaster in the US doesn't contain something from another state, or another country, I can see them claiming them under the Commerce Clause.

Makes sense? No. But that's the interpretation, and thus far courts have been unwilling to hold up any challenges to the interpretation.

No, I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know this for sure, but I'd bet the farm that if they did decide to go that route, that's the justification they'd use.
 
2013-02-13 12:16:07 PM  
Guy's clearly a tool.  That being said, this thing is concentrated evil masquerading as a ride:

www.astronomy-images.com

and it's awesome.
 
2013-02-13 12:24:58 PM  
I'm amazed that a NRO article criticizing a democratic politician did not attempt to tie his wacky pet cause to the Democratic Party or Obama.
 
2013-02-13 01:04:29 PM  
I agree with NRO about something. I need a shower.
 
2013-02-13 01:21:51 PM  
So what is the big deal? I highly doubt that anybody needs to use a roller coaster. The fact is that there is a greater than zero chance that a child will be killed by one. The only reason people could want to keep them around is if they want to kill children. To me, the solution is obvious.
 
2013-02-13 02:26:52 PM  

umad: So what is the big deal? I highly doubt that anybody needs to use a roller coaster. The fact is that there is a greater than zero chance that a child will be killed by one. The only reason people could want to keep them around is if they want to kill children. To me, the solution is obvious.


Don't have offspring?
 
2013-02-13 02:48:06 PM  
Don't trust those carnie folk.
 
2013-02-13 03:09:39 PM  

Haoie: Don't trust those carnie folk.


They smell like cabbage and have small hands.
 
2013-02-13 07:14:55 PM  

oldfarthenry: justneal: awesome i got a add for great wolf lodge and it's death slids in the article!!

Took the kiddies there years ago. They had to shut the pool down for twenty minutes while the "floater" went through the filter system. It was off-putting.


Friend of mine, who has a 4 year old went there. "Oh, it's GREAT! You should go!!"
I, whose youngest child is 20something, said "Yeah, I don't think so."
 
2013-02-14 01:02:01 AM  

StrangeQ: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...

Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)

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Old and busted ad hominem attack. Please get some new material.
 
2013-02-14 01:05:48 AM  

StrangeQ: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Diogenes: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?

"Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was - and to which the president is - implacably opposed, but it is hardly "senseless."

Those poor, misunderstood Nazis.  Good thing the NRO is there to defend them and their sensible goals.

Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.)  Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

Think of it in terms of sensory selectivity, as in http://www.fark.com/goto/7586573/http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013 / 02/11/171409656/why-even-radiologists-can-miss-a-gorilla-hiding-in-pla in-sight and http://www.fark.com/comments/7586573/82472436#c82472436

Holy fark, talk about a contrast between senseless/sensible.  You really can't do it, can you?  You farking pudding headed conservatives really can't take even the most mundane, agreeable, not containing any possible objectionable content statement the president makes and just agree with it without having your farking brains leak out of your ears.  You need farking help.


You're not one for really paying attention, are you? If you had been, you would know I'm not a conservative. (Hell, I even voted for our current Glorious Leader.) But then again I suppose it's easier and less of a mental strain to just willey-nilley label people into the little boxes that your junior high social sciences teacher indoctrinated you about.
 
2013-02-14 01:07:54 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...

Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)

I get the attempt at humor, in that it's moderately amusing to point out that an idiot politician's pet cause is something which causes far fewer fatalities than other things which are considered every-day normal.  My point is that the sentence is poorly-constructed.  Owning bunkbeds, skateboards, bicycles or sleds are not only NOT activities, but are also NOT inherently dangerous.  Skateboarding IS an activity, and can be dangerous.  OWNING a skateboard is passive, and NOT in-and-of-itself dangerous.  See the difference?

Given your knee-jerk reaction to immediately to label me as a "lib/prog", I understand that you may not have the intelligence to comprehend the subtleties of the English language, but let me assure you:  Words have specific meanings.


Ah, yes, the Grammar Nazi. One step up from a Spelling Nazi. In either case, it indicates that you've really got no other arguments.
 
2013-02-14 01:09:11 AM  

Diogenes: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Diogenes: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: StrangeQ: NRO?  Aren't they the ones that just criticized Obama for calling Nazis "senseless" because they simple cannot allow themselves to agree with a single thing he says, ever?  Yeah, not making the mistake of clicking on one of their garbage links again.

What are you babbling on about?

"Nazism may have been an ideology to which the United States was - and to which the president is - implacably opposed, but it is hardly "senseless."

Those poor, misunderstood Nazis.  Good thing the NRO is there to defend them and their sensible goals.

Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.)  Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

Think of it in terms of sensory selectivity, as in http://www.fark.com/goto/7586573/http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013 / 02/11/171409656/why-even-radiologists-can-miss-a-gorilla-hiding-in-pla in-sight and http://www.fark.com/comments/7586573/82472436#c82472436

A sensible person would have concluded that the author of that article could have chosen her words more carefully.


Actually, I agree with that. But then people here on Fark wouldn't have had anything to "debate" about.
 
2013-02-14 01:19:47 AM  

thurstonxhowell: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.) Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

So you would agree that it is totally worth taking the time to correct someone for saying murdering millions of people was senseless?


In the context of the dominant culture and moral-set of western civilization, what the Nazi's did was "senseless." My point is that that word is entirely normative (subjective). I don't really have a problem with Glorious Leader saying that.

It was "sensible" - given their religion, culture and ethics, for the Aztecs to murder hundreds of thousands of people by cutting their beating hearts out on the steps of their pyramid. The Spaniard  Conquistadors didn't think so. They thought - given their religion, culture and ethics, to enslave everyone in sight and steal all the gold.

It was "sensible" - given their religion, culture and ethics, for both the ancient Egyptians and Imperial Chinese Court to kill thousands of warriors and other people to accompany their God-Kings into death. Most people today - given their religion, culture and ethics, don't think so.

I could go on; the list is endless.

Having actually read the article, I think that was the point that was attempting to be made. It was done poorly, but there you are. What's humorous is the automatic derp wargarrble from the libs and proggies on Fark caused by  two facts: the article appeared to be critical of Glorious leader; and it appeared in that most hated and despised rag, NRO. I suspect that if the exact same things had been said in generalities, and had been said in, oh, The New Yorker or some other liberal source, the reaction would have been entirely different.
 
2013-02-14 01:20:42 AM  

Diogenes: thurstonxhowell: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Oh, I see. "Senseless" and "sensible" are two of those words that are seriously affected by CONTEXT. (I am almost 100% certain that my next sentence will be gleefully taken out of context.) Given the goals and "morality" of the German National Socialists (Nazis), then, yes, the Holocaust was "sensible" (to them).

So you would agree that it is totally worth taking the time to correct someone for saying murdering millions of people was senseless?

Not at all.  He'll contort himself to defend a conservative in any event.


I often defend conservatives because the liberal position is even more ridiculous.
 
2013-02-14 04:44:22 AM  

justneal: awesome i got a add for great wolf lodge and it's death slids in the article!!


I have no idea what this means.
 
2013-02-14 04:57:04 AM  

Priapetic: Guy's clearly a tool.  That being said, this thing is concentrated evil masquerading as a ride:

[www.astronomy-images.com image 425x638]

and it's awesome.


I went on one of those years ago with my girlfriend at a state fair. She screamed so loud, my friends heard it at the other end of the fair. They even asked me if I heard it.
/csb
 
2013-02-14 05:00:57 AM  

umad: So what is the big deal? I highly doubt that anybody needs to use a roller coaster. The fact is that there is a greater than zero chance that a child will be killed by one. The only reason people could want to keep them around is if they want to kill children. To me, the solution is obvious.


0/10. You can do better than that.
 
2013-02-14 09:12:39 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...

Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)

I get the attempt at humor, in that it's moderately amusing to point out that an idiot politician's pet cause is something which causes far fewer fatalities than other things which are considered every-day normal.  My point is that the sentence is poorly-constructed.  Owning bunkbeds, skateboards, bicycles or sleds are not only NOT activities, but are also NOT inherently dangerous.  Skateboarding IS an activity, and can be dangerous.  OWNING a skateboard is passive, and NOT in-and-of-itself dangerous.  See the difference?

Given your knee-jerk reaction to immediately to label me as a "lib/prog", I understand that you may not have the intelligence to comprehend the subtleties of the English language, but let me assure you:  Words have specific meanings.

Ah, yes, the Grammar Nazi. One step up from a Spelling Nazi. In either case, it indicates that you've really got no other arguments.


It's actually neither a grammar nor a spelling mistake, but rather a misuse of the language.  You might want to return to grade school and find out what 'grammar' actually is, because, clearly, you don't know.

Also, why would I NEED any other "arguments"?  My ONLY issue is that the author is using a certain words in a way that is inconsistent with it's meaning, and thus, communicating poorly.  This sort of error is understandable from a layperson, but not from a journalist, who is presumably trained in such things.
 
2013-02-14 10:33:42 AM  

CheekyMonkey: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: CheekyMonkey: Dear NRO-

Since when is "owning bunk beds" an "activity"?  I understand you aren't the brightest bulbs, but really...

Humor. It's humor. Strange concept, I know, but there you are.... (I guess it's true: libs/progs don't have a sense of humor.)

I get the attempt at humor, in that it's moderately amusing to point out that an idiot politician's pet cause is something which causes far fewer fatalities than other things which are considered every-day normal.  My point is that the sentence is poorly-constructed.  Owning bunkbeds, skateboards, bicycles or sleds are not only NOT activities, but are also NOT inherently dangerous.  Skateboarding IS an activity, and can be dangerous.  OWNING a skateboard is passive, and NOT in-and-of-itself dangerous.  See the difference?

Given your knee-jerk reaction to immediately to label me as a "lib/prog", I understand that you may not have the intelligence to comprehend the subtleties of the English language, but let me assure you:  Words have specific meanings.

Ah, yes, the Grammar Nazi. One step up from a Spelling Nazi. In either case, it indicates that you've really got no other arguments.

It's actually neither a grammar nor a spelling mistake, but rather a misuse of the language.  You might want to return to grade school and find out what 'grammar' actually is, because, clearly, you don't know.

Also, why would I NEED any other "arguments"?  My ONLY issue is that the author is using a certain words in a way that is inconsistent with it's meaning, and thus, communicating poorly.  This sort of error is understandable from a layperson, but not from a journalist, who is presumably trained in such things.


Sigh. Do you have any clue as to the "why" of my "kneejerk" reaction calling you a lib/proggie? No, didn't think so. I'm sure you know the word pedantic.

Also, I think you are missing your calling. You should be hiring yourself out to so-called journalists/humorists such as Dave Berry (he of the "dying from coffee filter" fame) to correct their misuses of the English language.
 
2013-02-14 10:59:52 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Sigh. Do you have any clue as to the "why" of my "kneejerk" reaction calling you a lib/proggie? No, didn't think so. I'm sure you know the word pedantic.Also, I think you are missing your calling. You should be hiring yourself out to so-called journalists/humorists such as Dave Berry (he of the "dying from coffee filter" fame) to correct their misuses of the English language.


Yes, yes I do.  You are one of the many idiot who is incapable and/or uninterested in effective communication.  You consider loose and incorrect language usage as "good enough" and leave it up to others to guess at what you really meant to say.  Much like your last sentence.  It's up to me to assume that you meant Dave Barry, not Dave Berry.  You may consider it a small error, and me pedantic for mentioning it.  I consider likely that it's merely one of hundreds of errors that you make every day, because of laziness or apathy.

\You do realize that if everyone in the world were as imprecise as you, we would not enjoy any of the technological marvels that we take for granted, don't you?  We'd be back in the stone age, using rocks and sticks as tools, and communicating with each other with grunts and hand gestures.
 
2013-02-14 11:42:18 AM  

CheekyMonkey: idiot


Singular? Really? LOL!
 
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