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(Info Wars)   An Arizona man hopes to cash in on a $5 million payday for an innocent little joke about carrying explosive peanut butter on a plane   (infowars.com) divider line 26
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2013-02-13 06:24:03 AM
4 votes:
Every time we arrived at an airport, we ordered the kids never to say the 'b-word' or mention anything along those lines, even as a joke. Why can't people understand that? Imagine the fall out (hmm) if the TSA people just laughed off all the 'jokes' and then one wasn't a joke. Who would be laughing then? Hope the courts throw out this appalling legal action and ensure this chap pays all the legal costs for both sides.
2013-02-13 09:18:58 AM
3 votes:
This is all a bunch of horse shiat as al qaeda is probably not going to use planes again, but will make us waste a ton of time and money for a fake feeling of security.

We are still doing everything the terrorists want us to do.
2013-02-13 08:01:04 AM
3 votes:
Both the TSA and this guy are retarded.  Honestly, what grown adult or collection of grown adults do not know that you can buy peanut butter without stabilizers?  I suppose those who work for the TSA may be my answer...

Look, you can protest all you want, but the TSA is not going anywhere anytime soon.  Cracking jokes about bombs while in a security checkpoint line is pretty dumb.  I see it as walking the line of free speech and yelling "fire" in a movie theater...its in that grey area.

Did the TSA and NYPD overreact here?  No doubt.  Is this guy a class-a moran for making a bomb joke while in a security check line, you betcha!

Honestly, the only way I see the TSA disappearing is if we see another 9/11.  There willl have to be huge missteps in passenger safety before a majority of politicians are motivated to do anything about it.
2013-02-13 07:34:32 AM
3 votes:
This twit needs to learn when it is OK to act like a 15 year old, and when it is not. His kids must be proud.
2013-02-13 09:22:37 AM
2 votes:

colinspooky: Every time we arrived at an airport, we ordered the kids never to say the 'b-word' or mention anything along those lines, even as a joke. Why can't people understand that? Imagine the fall out (hmm) if the TSA people just laughed off all the 'jokes' and then one wasn't a joke. Who would be laughing then? Hope the courts throw out this appalling legal action and ensure this chap pays all the legal costs for both sides.

Yeah, cause the first thing someone carrying a bomb is gonna do is joke about carrying a bomb.

2013-02-13 09:20:44 AM
2 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: /you are free to vocalize any "thought" that manages to wander across that wasteland between your ears
//that in no way implies that there will be no repercussions


Social repercussions such as people thinking the speaker is an asshat, etc, yes.  However if the repercussions are brought by the government because certain speech has been determined to have legal penalties, then by definition, the speaker isn't by any means "free" to vocalize any thought that wanders through his head.
2013-02-13 08:13:49 AM
2 votes:

Endive Wombat: Look, you can protest all you want, but the TSA is not going anywhere anytime soon. Cracking jokes about bombs while in a security checkpoint line is pretty dumb. I see it as walking the line of free speech and yelling "fire" in a movie theater...its in that grey area.


If he had yelled, "bomb" I would agree.

There is no way a reasonable person would think it was explosive.

The factt hat he didn't tackles the person immedioately to keep him away fromt he "explosives" shows he didn't think it was a threat.

I hope he wins, because unfortunately in the US today that is the only thing that will keep these TSA morons in line.
2013-02-13 01:10:40 PM
1 votes:
As if a real bomber is going to say he has a bomb...
2013-02-13 12:55:29 PM
1 votes:

oh_please: liam76: The TSA was already treating it as if it were dangerous, and he made a joke mocking the situation. That is protected speech.

Nope. This isn't a comedian on stage telling a joke, nor is it "satire", as someone else suggested upthread. He was in a situation where his speech could be reasonably construed as a threat. Wrong place, wrong time, not protected speech.


You don't need to eb a comedian to make s joke.

After a guy gets hassled about taking his peanutbutter, and he makes an offhanded joke about them confiscating his "explosives" a reasonable person should take that as serious?  I guess we have different definitions of reasonable.
2013-02-13 12:28:17 PM
1 votes:

oh_please: runescorpio: The TSA is completely incompetent. The hijakings that led to their new powers were performed with box cutters and knives. Anyone read the article about the cupcakes and the sword? Cupcakes bad. Sword good.
Edged weapons aren't a threat its explosive cupcakes.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-confiscates-cupcakes-and-candy-allow s- man-to-walk-through-checkpoint-with-sword.html

For those of you saying good, airports are serious business you need to realize there is also this thing called common sense.
//Starting to wonder why they call it that when it's becoming very uncommon.

Common sense dictates that you don't make a bomb joke while going through airport security.

Was making a joke like this okay pre-9/11? Hint: It wasn't.

I'd love to see the TSA disbanded, but this isn't the case that's going to do it, and it shouldn't be. Anyone trying to equate this with overzealous TSA dipshiats are either too young to have flown pre-9/11, or just hate the TSA so much (NTTAWTHT)  that they're blind to the facts here.


I for one don't want to see the TSA disbanded. I do, however, want the the true people in power of them, to pull their head out of their asses. I think the TSA is needed, just not in the capacity that they're in at the moment. People can police themselves, yes we do have nutjobs out there, but, the TSA in it's current capacity is not the answer. As I stated before, people need to quit letting the Government rule us, we are the true rulers of our kingdom. The sooner people realize this, the sooner we can be a society of people again, and not a monarchy that is supposed to keep us safe from unknowns.
2013-02-13 11:48:31 AM
1 votes:

liam76: If they knew he was talking about the peanut butter and they knew it wasn't a bomb it shouldn't have gone any further.


Much like how a republican gun nut™ waits for the day when he can murder someone with his concealed child-killer ©, a TSA agent longs for the day when someone makes an off-hand remark that he can use to fark up his whole day. Then he probably goes home and masturbates to the thought of how much power he has.
2013-02-13 11:24:56 AM
1 votes:

endmile: Harvey's Casino in 1980. They left a note that there was a bomb planted. There was, in fact, an actual bomb planted. The cops tried to disarm it using explosives and just ended up setting it off. It destroyed Harvey's and damaged Harrah's next door. http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/august/harvey_082609


FTA: A note left with the bomb-titled STERN WARNING TO THE MANAGEMENT AND BOMB SQUAD-began ominously: "Do not move or tilt this bomb, because the mechanism controlling the detonators in it will set it off at a movement of less than .01 of the open end Ricter scale.

That's a whole other thing. That's not calling in a bomb threat. That's leaving an object with a note. In the latter, that shows that the person was actually there, and there is an actual object. In that case, yes, clear the building.
2013-02-13 11:15:31 AM
1 votes:

oh_please: As much as I hate the TSA, there's no way this guy is going to win, and he shouldn't. There's a time and place to be a smartass, an airport security check is not that time and place.

/you got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em....


You nailed this one on the head. But, maybe, and just maybe it's time for someone to take the TSA to task. We can't keep giving up liberty because we're scared little critters. Even though I agree totally that this guy won't see a penny and his sarcasm was incorrectly employed in the wrong place, it's a step in the right direction to start removing ourselves from the grip of government stooges. I'm not downplaying TSA employees, heck, they're people too, they need jobs just as many do. Maybe, it's us that need to be taken to task, as we have allowed the Government to take over our lives so that we little snowflakes feel comfortable and safe in our little bubble.
2013-02-13 11:13:28 AM
1 votes:

colinspooky: Every time we arrived at an airport, we ordered the kids never to say the 'b-word' or mention anything along those lines, even as a joke. Why can't people understand that? Imagine the fall out (hmm) if the TSA people just laughed off all the 'jokes' and then one wasn't a joke. Who would be laughing then? Hope the courts throw out this appalling legal action and ensure this chap pays all the legal costs for both sides.


Agreed, I am willing to sacrifice my freedom for the illusion of safety comrade, ::bootclick salute:: Heil!

We must not question the law!!  because it's..the LAW!!  ::goosestepping::
2013-02-13 10:23:17 AM
1 votes:
You guys are some farking pansy asses.  Dogpiling on him for making fun of the TSA.   What he said was obviously satire meant to insult the intelligence of the TSO.  Getting arrested for it was just their vengeance.   I hope he wins in court, this isn't a "fire in a theater" situation, this was him talking to his family about the ridiculous state of airport security in this nation.
2013-02-13 10:05:48 AM
1 votes:

MythDragon: Saw this (not my pic) sign last time I flew:
[www.advicegoddess.com image 375x500]

I guess they are fed up with people being fed up with them for being assholes. So they get to treat you like shiat, but if you give them lip back, you're the bad guy.


Also that sign seems contradictory first is says that you shouldn't verbally abuse them, then it says to give them the respect they deserve. Well, which is it?
2013-02-13 09:46:11 AM
1 votes:
I think it's interesting that he's suing the TSA agent as well as the TSA.

If he wins this will hopefully put the fear of god in those guys.

Plus a bunch of TSA agents are moonlighting from another Federal job, because they get very favorable tax benefits out of it (read: very low tax rate on those wages).  So you have a bunch of people who just worked 8 hours at Federal Bureau of what ever and then they go work at the TSA. They're already tired and grumpy when they get there.  Add a god complex to that and what did anyone think would happen?
2013-02-13 09:45:41 AM
1 votes:

DROxINxTHExWIND: Hannibal spent the next 24 hours in a cell, during which time he was fed a peanut butter sandwich by cops who later charged him with the felony of "falsely reporting an incident".

Huh? He didn't report anything. He made a sarcastic remark



Yup- the TSA guy did. Arrest HIM!
2013-02-13 09:38:42 AM
1 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: softshoes: People are always getting confused about this free speech thing. The first amendment will not bail this asshat out.

This

/you are free to vocalize any "thought" that manages to wander across that wasteland between your ears
//that in no way implies that there will be no repercussions


*Scanning article for reference to "free speech"* - None found.

This man is not suing because his 1st amendment rights were infringed upon. He's suing because he feels he was detained for no reason. I think the charge that they tried to pin on him supports his claim:

Hannibal spent the next 24 hours in a cell, during which time he was fed a peanut butter sandwich by cops who later charged him with the felony of "falsely reporting an incident".

Huh? He didn't report anything. He made a sarcastic remark. ANYONE who defends his arrest supports living in a police state. This is ridiculous. Talking shiat should not be a an arrestable offense. Especially if you don't direct your comments at the officer.
2013-02-13 09:37:09 AM
1 votes:

sno man: And if TSA guy is bewildered by your separating peanut butter, he probably won't pick up on your sarcasm voice either.


If the TSA guy is that stupid, then he is useless in his job and should be fired.
2013-02-13 09:35:49 AM
1 votes:
In 2007, i was working for a financial institution that I shall not name, but the job involved constant traveling. I was on the TSA line in Skyharbor airport, when my blackberry rung, and a change of venue ensued. My schedule now involved me going to my secondary branch for the week, first, and I was instructed to inform my contacts ASAP. This meant I had to speak to someone with the title of Branch Operations Manager, which was always referred to, with the titles Acronym. So mid phone call, without thinking of where I was due to the hasty change in arrangements, I confirmed with my direct manager verbally by saying, " OK, the plans are ramped up, I'll talk to the BOM right before I board to confirm ". Just like in the movies, I could almost hear the sound effect of situation clarity, and looked up to see about 10 people staring at me, mouth open, eyes wide. I scanned left to right, and all sound seemed to disappear for just a moment while the group waited for explanation it seemed.. I just said aloud, BRANCH OFFICE MANAGER, no worries really... and everybody returned to waiting in line.
Luckily for me, that's the end of that story. On the other hand, how Effing sad is it, that I could have been detained for any period of time at all, for that little verbal slip?
2013-02-13 09:23:20 AM
1 votes:

Diogenes: DON'T MAKE FARKING BOMB JOKES IN THE AIRPORT


Also, don't snicker at the judge

Never look at the queen and say "How much?"

Hell, I'm Canadian, and I was told in the 70's by my father, to never make a bomb, explosive or hijack comment in an airport or plane.  This is not the TSA's fault - the PB guy is a moron.  I hope he gets zero for this suit
2013-02-13 09:22:46 AM
1 votes:
Please don't link to Infowars and give Alex Jones this traffic. That guy is dangerously paranoid.
2013-02-13 09:15:25 AM
1 votes:
Dumb dude. You shouldn't have said it.  On the other hand the TSA still has rules that make no sense and provide zero protection.
2013-02-13 08:42:40 AM
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Honestly, the only way I see the TSA disappearing is if we see another 9/11. There willl have to be huge missteps in passenger safety before a majority of politicians are motivated to do anything about it.


I really don't want to see the clusterfark that would ensue if the TSA got shut down on grounds that they didn't do enough to stop something.  What monstrosity would replace them in that case?

/ Actually I wouldn't mind if they had a way to just knock us out and stack us up in little coffin-like boxes for the duration of the flight, like on the 5th Element.  Would work around a lot of the hassles associated with travel.
2013-02-13 08:08:43 AM
1 votes:
People are always getting confused about this free speech thing. The first amendment will not bail this asshat out.
 
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