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(This Is Gloucestershire)   Armed police raid home after toy mortar gun spotted on Facebook pic. GO JOE   (thisisgloucestershire.co.uk ) divider line
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2013-02-13 08:45:47 AM  
2 votes:
So, is it OK for me to post a picture of my mortar in this thread?
2013-02-13 08:30:21 AM  
2 votes:
Good thing it was in the UK rather than the US these days.  Here it would have been an excuse for the SWAT boys to get out all their toys, blow the door off the hinges, flash bangs burning the carpet, shoot the dog, etc, etc, etc (probably with a news crew in tow as well just to 'document the procedure' - only to confiscate the tapes once it is known what a cluster fark the whole thing is).

/sadly probably closer to the truth than satire
2013-02-13 05:01:29 PM  
1 vote:

dittybopper: Dimensio: dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.

So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?

It's not a loophole.  They are expressly not covered by US gun laws, along with things like muzzleloading rifles, smoothbores, and handguns, or cartridge guns manufactured before 1898.


At what time has a fact of law not being a loophole prevented individuals from claiming it to be a "loophole"?
2013-02-13 02:08:12 PM  
1 vote:

pyrotek85: Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.

I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.


I'm sure they do, too.  It was a funny mistake, not part of some nanny-state conspiracy.
2013-02-13 11:52:35 AM  
1 vote:

ethics-gradient: WTF? They go out prepared to smash down someone's front door and invade their home without even bothering to look at the picture? Which 'tarded moron's word did they take for this and why?

This is what really scares me about British police nowadays, they have the monopoly on state approved violence but act in such a way that makes me suspect that a lot of people have been promoted beyind their capabilities.
There's been mutterings that they need a professional officer corps like the military.


Come to the U.S. Sometime.  Pick a state, any state.
2013-02-13 10:57:42 AM  
1 vote:

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

Where is action figure John McClane when you need him?

If he posted this picture, would the police think that he's a terrorist holding a soldier hostage?
www.abc.net.au
2013-02-13 10:53:19 AM  
1 vote:

trappedspirit: Suddenly dittybopper closes his facebook account


Luckily, my ancestors decided to leave the UK while the getting was still good.
2013-02-13 10:46:26 AM  
1 vote:

the ha ha guy: weapon13: Do you mean warrants? Don't you guys in 'merkinland have to open the door to police who have a search warrant?


In America, we rarely get the chance.

When carrying out a warrant, unless it's just collecting evidence for an ongoing court case, standard procedure is to bust down the door, kill any dogs, handcuff any people, and search the house for anyone else who needs to be dragged out and handcuffed. Once that's done, if anyone is left alive, THEN they'll announce themselves as police, briefly flash the warrant, and begin ransacking the house for whatever it is they're looking for.

Suffice to say, it's not uncommon for people to be killed by police when these warrants are carried out. If it turns out they killed someone at the wrong house, no matter, they just plant a few bags of marijuana and call it a drug bust. If they went to the wrong house but didn't kill anyone, too bad, now the innocent homeowners have to buy new windows, doors, electronics, furniture, etc, because the police sure aren't going to replace the stuff they broke.


But according to American media, the USA is the last stronghold of freedom and human rights in the world, and the UK is nothing but a communist police-run nanny-state...


Don't forget throw flash-bang on top of sleeping children causing burns needing hospitalization and taze demented and bedridden elderly women.
2013-02-13 10:28:28 AM  
1 vote:

weapon13: Do you mean warrants? Don't you guys in 'merkinland have to open the door to police who have a search warrant?



In America, we rarely get the chance.

When carrying out a warrant, unless it's just collecting evidence for an ongoing court case, standard procedure is to bust down the door, kill any dogs, handcuff any people, and search the house for anyone else who needs to be dragged out and handcuffed. Once that's done, if anyone is left alive, THEN they'll announce themselves as police, briefly flash the warrant, and begin ransacking the house for whatever it is they're looking for.

Suffice to say, it's not uncommon for people to be killed by police when these warrants are carried out. If it turns out they killed someone at the wrong house, no matter, they just plant a few bags of marijuana and call it a drug bust. If they went to the wrong house but didn't kill anyone, too bad, now the innocent homeowners have to buy new windows, doors, electronics, furniture, etc, because the police sure aren't going to replace the stuff they broke.


But according to American media, the USA is the last stronghold of freedom and human rights in the world, and the UK is nothing but a communist police-run nanny-state...
2013-02-13 09:54:09 AM  
1 vote:
I wonder what the Brits would think if they knew us Yanks were legally allowed to own mortar tubes. As (much like used LAW or AT-4 tubes) they are just inert hunks of metal or fiberglass (thats fibreglass to you crumpet munchers), there really arn't dangerous. Though we are also allowed to own the mortars that go in said tubes if we are willing to pay a $200 tax per mortor for having a 'destructive device'.

Also allowed: Tanks and flamethrowers. Yet NY has a 7 round mag limit.
2013-02-13 09:50:46 AM  
1 vote:

pyrotek85: I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.



Did they even see the picture? The way I read it, some busybody saw the picture and called the police claiming that he had a mortar gun in his house. Unless the caller specifically mentioned the Facebook post, the police most likely assumed that the caller saw it firsthand, so they wouldn't even know the picture existed.

Now if there's another story somewhere saying that the police found the post on their own while scouring Facebook for lawbreakers, then I'll commence my outrage immediately. But from the info so far, even as a cop hater, this strikes me more as more of a CSB than something to be upset about.
2013-02-13 09:14:00 AM  
1 vote:

pyrotek85: "Ian's friend, Stephen Hall, said he felt the police were right to check out the information they had been given."

I think this is the worst part IMO, he thinks it's ok apparently.



Search warrants are only acceptable when it's somebody else's house, right?


The police were notified of a threat, investigated that threat in a completely non-violent manner within the bounds of the law, and went on their way once they had the facts.

Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.
2013-02-13 08:54:42 AM  
1 vote:

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Recoil Therapy: Good thing it was in the UK rather than the US these days.  Here it would have been an excuse for the SWAT boys to get out all their toys, blow the door off the hinges, flash bangs burning the carpet, shoot the dog, etc, etc, etc (probably with a news crew in tow as well just to 'document the procedure' - only to confiscate the tapes once it is known what a cluster fark the whole thing is).

/sadly probably closer to the truth than satire

Now they just burn your house down with you inside.


Whaddya mean now?  That's been SOP for decades.
2013-02-13 08:42:43 AM  
1 vote:
"Ian's friend, Stephen Hall, said he felt the police were right to check out the information they had been given."

I think this is the worst part IMO, he thinks it's ok apparently.
2013-02-13 08:01:38 AM  
1 vote:
He should bring it to one of those gun buy back programs
2013-02-13 07:34:54 AM  
1 vote:
When I first looked at the picture, I thought "what kind of idiot would think that was real".  Then I saw that it was in the U.K.  and it all made sense.
 
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