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2013-02-13 10:51:42 AM
FTA: We are sure that the community would rather we acted quickly on information given to us of this nature, in case it had turned out to be a weapon.

No, the community would rather you acted thoroughly.  You know, to prevent this kind of shiat from happening in the first place.
 
2013-02-13 10:53:19 AM

trappedspirit: Suddenly dittybopper closes his facebook account


Luckily, my ancestors decided to leave the UK while the getting was still good.
 
2013-02-13 10:55:03 AM

weapon13: Then I realised everyone over there must already own at least one mortar


I do.  Wanna see it?  Come on, let me show you my mortar.
 
2013-02-13 10:57:42 AM

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

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Where is action figure John McClane when you need him?

If he posted this picture, would the police think that he's a terrorist holding a soldier hostage?
www.abc.net.au
 
2013-02-13 10:59:09 AM

the ha ha guy: The police were notified of a threat, investigated that threat in a completely non-violent manner within the bounds of the law, and went on their way once they had the facts.


"Intelligence Possessor": Hello, 9-1-1? I saw a picture of a mortar on a guy's facebook page!

9-1-1 Operator: Thank you for calling. Whose Facebook page are we referring to?

"Intelligence Possessor": Marty McFly, in Derbyshire.

9-1-1 Operator: Thank you for calling. We''ll look into this immediately. Good day. *Pulls up Facebook, looks up page; sees toy mortar, with remote control in background. Moves on to next case.*

Nah. Too intelligent and easy. Law enforcement has to pull it out and stroke it every once in a while to feel effective.
 
2013-02-13 11:23:17 AM

MythDragon: "You have a license for that mortor tube?"
"I do for this one"
"Okay....wait...this one?"


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-13 11:27:33 AM
At least it wasn't a toy assault mortar gun with extended magazine and laser scope. Those things are very dangerous.
 
2013-02-13 11:35:13 AM

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

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My God! Not only is he a terrorist, but an extremely tiny one at that. Why, he could sneak by law enforcement and they wouldn't even see him!
 
2013-02-13 11:50:25 AM
I have built a motor before they are reall not that hard to make. The rounds are a bit harder to make, but not that bad you just need to be very careful.
 
2013-02-13 11:52:35 AM

ethics-gradient: WTF? They go out prepared to smash down someone's front door and invade their home without even bothering to look at the picture? Which 'tarded moron's word did they take for this and why?

This is what really scares me about British police nowadays, they have the monopoly on state approved violence but act in such a way that makes me suspect that a lot of people have been promoted beyind their capabilities.
There's been mutterings that they need a professional officer corps like the military.


Come to the U.S. Sometime.  Pick a state, any state.
 
2013-02-13 11:53:51 AM

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble


That's some killer baseboar... wainscoting there.
 
2013-02-13 11:54:07 AM

dittybopper: So, is it OK for me to post a picture of my mortar in this thread?


I came to see if you were ok
 
2013-02-13 11:57:43 AM

traylor: Good thing I don't post pics of the fully armed Nazi soldiers that I am hiding in my home.


They'd just use substitutiary locomotion on you
 
2013-02-13 11:58:30 AM
I especially like that the Action Man is dressed as 1980s skinhead about 30 years later.
GS dog, US Air Force jacket and jeans hiked up north of his belly button, still keeping it "aufentik" even if he is missing the DMs.
 
2013-02-13 12:01:45 PM

jdemartino: "mortar gun"?

 
2013-02-13 12:11:13 PM

alabasterblack: Come to the U.S. Sometime.  Pick a state, any state.


Oh I'm sure that you have some wrong 'uns in police uniform over there too, I've read enough horror stories of shot dogs and unaccountable malicious 'tards.
My concern is that we have in effect abdicated all respoinsibility for physical defence of our lives and property to well paid people who are too lazy to do something as basic as actually looking at the picture and can be manipulated into staging home invasions by hysterical fools. It's not as if Brit cops are particularly ineducated or badly paid either.
You can imagine what it's like if you've actually been threatened or stolen from with this lot to watch your back.
 
2013-02-13 12:12:42 PM
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!!1!
 
2013-02-13 12:16:58 PM
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2013-02-13 12:29:39 PM
Here's another question, did the police even know for sure where that picture was taken? It's not like it was taken in a public place that has landmarks to identify.

I'm just finding it strange that they were able to get a warrant at all.
 
2013-02-13 12:41:50 PM

ethics-gradient: Oh I'm sure that you have some wrong 'uns in police uniform over there too, I've read enough horror stories of shot dogs and unaccountable malicious 'tards.


Don't worry, the ATF isn't *THAT* big of an agency.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:21 PM

Fano: dittybopper: So, is it OK for me to post a picture of my mortar in this thread?

I came to see if you were ok


I'm good.  It was a Limey that got hassled.
 
2013-02-13 12:58:02 PM

HAMMERTOE: zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

That's some killer baseboar... wainscoting there.


How do you like the cracked corner? I'm on the way with my mud knife and tape!
 
2013-02-13 01:06:18 PM

HAMMERTOE: "Intelligence Possessor": Hello, 9-1-1? I saw a picture of a mortar on a guy's facebook page!...


Alternatively:

"Intelligence Possessor": Hello, 9-9-9? Someone has a mortar gun in his house!

9-9-9 Operator: Thank you for calling. Who are we referring to?

"Intelligence Possessor": Marty McFly, in Derbyshire.

9-9-9 Operator: Thank you for calling. We''ll look into this immediately. Good day. *Goes to house; sees toy mortar gun. Moves on to next case.*


Nothing I've read so far implies that they ever saw the facebook page, only that they were told the guy had a mortar gun.
 
2013-02-13 01:22:19 PM

MythDragon: I wonder what the Brits would think if they knew us Yanks were legally allowed to own mortar tubes. As (much like used LAW or AT-4 tubes) they are just inert hunks of metal or fiberglass (thats fibreglass to you crumpet munchers), there really arn't dangerous. Though we are also allowed to own the mortars that go in said tubes if we are willing to pay a $200 tax per mortor for having a 'destructive device'.


Well sorta right the tube is nothing; depending on the type it's the cup that is the registered part. You gotta pay the NFA dd fees (do a transfer through a ffl) on the mortar if it has the firing pin in the base and the tube hasn't been demilled. And if it has that firing mech intact you still need to transfer though an ffl even if the tube has been filled cut whatever. You can do inert training rounds/smoke without a stamp for each round (well at least that was the case a few years ago).
 
2013-02-13 01:48:40 PM
farm9.staticflickr.com

Someone needs to alert the military that this house is hiding a fully armed F-14, a AH-1 and a Goddamned aircraft carrier.
 
2013-02-13 02:08:12 PM

pyrotek85: Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.

I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.


I'm sure they do, too.  It was a funny mistake, not part of some nanny-state conspiracy.
 
2013-02-13 02:34:04 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: MythDragon: I wonder what the Brits would think if they knew us Yanks were legally allowed to own mortar tubes. As (much like used LAW or AT-4 tubes) they are just inert hunks of metal or fiberglass (thats fibreglass to you crumpet munchers), there really arn't dangerous. Though we are also allowed to own the mortars that go in said tubes if we are willing to pay a $200 tax per mortor for having a 'destructive device'.

Well sorta right the tube is nothing; depending on the type it's the cup that is the registered part. You gotta pay the NFA dd fees (do a transfer through a ffl) on the mortar if it has the firing pin in the base and the tube hasn't been demilled. And if it has that firing mech intact you still need to transfer though an ffl even if the tube has been filled cut whatever. You can do inert training rounds/smoke without a stamp for each round (well at least that was the case a few years ago).


Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.
 
2013-02-13 02:34:58 PM

dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.


FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.
 
2013-02-13 02:51:50 PM

dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.


So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?
 
2013-02-13 03:02:18 PM

Dimensio: dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.

So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?


It's not a loophole.  They are expressly not covered by US gun laws, along with things like muzzleloading rifles, smoothbores, and handguns, or cartridge guns manufactured before 1898.
 
2013-02-13 03:17:43 PM

Mr. Breeze: jdemartino: "mortar gun"?


www.turptech.co.uk
www.turptech.co.uk
 
2013-02-13 04:24:34 PM
it's "YO JOE" not "GO JOE".  i can't believe i'm the first to point that out.
 
2013-02-13 05:01:29 PM

dittybopper: Dimensio: dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.

So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?

It's not a loophole.  They are expressly not covered by US gun laws, along with things like muzzleloading rifles, smoothbores, and handguns, or cartridge guns manufactured before 1898.


At what time has a fact of law not being a loophole prevented individuals from claiming it to be a "loophole"?
 
2013-02-13 06:59:33 PM

offmymeds: Mr. Breeze: jdemartino: "mortar gun"?

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Ah, yes. Thank you.
 
2013-02-14 05:45:51 AM
And tattling on your facebook acquaintances is half the battle. GO (not the trademarked yo) JOE!
 
2013-02-14 12:02:56 PM

BarkingUnicorn: pyrotek85: Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.

I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.

I'm sure they do, too.  It was a funny mistake, not part of some nanny-state conspiracy.


It is a conspiracy of stupidity.
Getting your emotional buttons pushed and running over the Full Retard Cliff should teach a reasonable human something.
 
2013-02-14 03:17:47 PM

offmymeds: Mr. Breeze: jdemartino: "mortar gun"?

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