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2013-02-13 07:34:54 AM  
When I first looked at the picture, I thought "what kind of idiot would think that was real".  Then I saw that it was in the U.K.  and it all made sense.
 
2013-02-13 08:01:38 AM  
He should bring it to one of those gun buy back programs
 
2013-02-13 08:21:27 AM  
Oh, it's the UK. This all makes sense now....for them.
 
2013-02-13 08:30:21 AM  
Good thing it was in the UK rather than the US these days.  Here it would have been an excuse for the SWAT boys to get out all their toys, blow the door off the hinges, flash bangs burning the carpet, shoot the dog, etc, etc, etc (probably with a news crew in tow as well just to 'document the procedure' - only to confiscate the tapes once it is known what a cluster fark the whole thing is).

/sadly probably closer to the truth than satire
 
2013-02-13 08:30:44 AM  
Oh it's a good thing this could never happen in America!
 
2013-02-13 08:31:08 AM  
I prefer to get my British news from Seriously This Is Gloucestershire.

Some say it only prints two facts about ducks - both of which are wrong.
 
2013-02-13 08:32:46 AM  
So, UK, how is that whole "open the door, we're from the government and we are here to help" thing been treatin ya?
 
2013-02-13 08:34:38 AM  
Do you feel safe yet?  Has sacrificing your freedom been worth it?
 
2013-02-13 08:39:48 AM  
Who wants a body massage?
 
2013-02-13 08:41:12 AM  
Meanwhile, in the US:

militantlibertarian.org


verybadfrog.com
 
2013-02-13 08:41:48 AM  
Link farked. Wtg guys!
 
2013-02-13 08:42:19 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I prefer to get my British news from Seriously This Is Gloucestershire.

Some say it only prints two facts about ducks - both of which are wrong.


All we know is, it's called The Rag.
 
2013-02-13 08:42:24 AM  
lol I WAS GONNA SAY something til i found out it was uk 'oh okay'
 
2013-02-13 08:42:43 AM  
"Ian's friend, Stephen Hall, said he felt the police were right to check out the information they had been given."

I think this is the worst part IMO, he thinks it's ok apparently.
 
2013-02-13 08:45:47 AM  
So, is it OK for me to post a picture of my mortar in this thread?
 
2013-02-13 08:47:06 AM  
Article headline: Armed police storm Tewksbury home

Actual story: Resident Ian Driscoll was stunned when five policemen, including two who were armed, turned up on his doorstep with a search warrant.

That's some fine exaggeration there, This Is Gloucestershire.
 
2013-02-13 08:50:27 AM  

Recoil Therapy: Good thing it was in the UK rather than the US these days.  Here it would have been an excuse for the SWAT boys to get out all their toys, blow the door off the hinges, flash bangs burning the carpet, shoot the dog, etc, etc, etc (probably with a news crew in tow as well just to 'document the procedure' - only to confiscate the tapes once it is known what a cluster fark the whole thing is).

/sadly probably closer to the truth than satire


Now they just burn your house down with you inside.
 
2013-02-13 08:54:42 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Recoil Therapy: Good thing it was in the UK rather than the US these days.  Here it would have been an excuse for the SWAT boys to get out all their toys, blow the door off the hinges, flash bangs burning the carpet, shoot the dog, etc, etc, etc (probably with a news crew in tow as well just to 'document the procedure' - only to confiscate the tapes once it is known what a cluster fark the whole thing is).

/sadly probably closer to the truth than satire

Now they just burn your house down with you inside.


Whaddya mean now?  That's been SOP for decades.
 
2013-02-13 08:56:03 AM  
"Five officers turned up in unmarked police cars. They flashed the search warrant in my face and said it was lucky I was in so they didn't have to break my door down."

So very, very lucky.
 
2013-02-13 09:03:15 AM  
Acting on intelligence

Naaaaah
 
2013-02-13 09:14:00 AM  

pyrotek85: "Ian's friend, Stephen Hall, said he felt the police were right to check out the information they had been given."

I think this is the worst part IMO, he thinks it's ok apparently.



Search warrants are only acceptable when it's somebody else's house, right?


The police were notified of a threat, investigated that threat in a completely non-violent manner within the bounds of the law, and went on their way once they had the facts.

Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.
 
2013-02-13 09:15:52 AM  

BillCo: When I first looked at the picture, I thought "what kind of idiot would think that was real".  Then I saw that it was in the U.K.  and it all made sense.


Yeah, the fact that only two of the police officers were armed, and it was apparently worth noting that two officers were armed, threw me for a minute there. Also the fact that they knocked on the door and handed over the warrant instead of SWAT smashing their way in there.
 
2013-02-13 09:15:58 AM  

the ha ha guy: pyrotek85: "Ian's friend, Stephen Hall, said he felt the police were right to check out the information they had been given."

I think this is the worst part IMO, he thinks it's ok apparently.


Search warrants are only acceptable when it's somebody else's house, right?


The police were notified of a threat, investigated that threat in a completely non-violent manner within the bounds of the law, and went on their way once they had the facts.

Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.


I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.
 
2013-02-13 09:18:03 AM  
In my defense, the "Tewksbury" was confusing, as I grew up not far from Tewksbury, MA.
 
2013-02-13 09:23:43 AM  
Totally missing from the story is how the guy goes postal on whatever of his "friends" notified the authorities about the ZOMG dangerous weapon.
 
2013-02-13 09:25:18 AM  
Acting on intelligence...

That sort of writing always gets a chuckle from me (because I am five years old.)
 
2013-02-13 09:29:28 AM  
At first I was like "what the fark am I reading? how can the BATFE be that stupid!?"
Then I realized it was in the UK - or as I call it the United Kingdumb.
 
2013-02-13 09:30:34 AM  
"mortar gun"?
 
2013-02-13 09:31:34 AM  
Gloucestershire police spokeswoman Alexa Collicott said: "The information was given to us in good faith and we acted with good intentions

I personally would find out which judge signed the warrant and then mock him endlessly on social media, but then that's just me.

I know it was a guy, because women aren't quite that stupid.
 
2013-02-13 09:32:45 AM  
Good thing I don't post pics of the fully armed Nazi soldiers that I am hiding in my home.
 
2013-02-13 09:41:43 AM  

Recoil Therapy: Good thing it was in the UK rather than the US these days.  Here it would have been an excuse for the SWAT boys to get out all their toys, blow the door off the hinges, flash bangs burning the carpet, shoot the dog, etc, etc, etc (probably with a news crew in tow as well just to 'document the procedure' - only to confiscate the tapes once it is known what a cluster fark the whole thing is).

/sadly probably closer to the truth than satire


"And then his wife threw her tittys in my hand."
 
2013-02-13 09:42:20 AM  

Walker: Walker: Oh, it's the UK. This all makes sense now....for them.


Armed police raid? Really? Oh, the UK...so quaint.
 
2013-02-13 09:42:48 AM  
How could anyone mistake that toy for something real?  Are people not  aware of scale?  I know there's a lot of British bashing here, but even they can't be that stupid.  I also agree with the person who was incredulous at the fact that his friend was "Ok" with police checking him out on a clearly bogus issue.  There is Absolutely No Way that toy can be confused for something real.
 
2013-02-13 09:46:58 AM  
"You have a license for that mortor tube?"
"I do for this one"
"Okay....wait...this one?"
www.picturenose.com
 
2013-02-13 09:50:46 AM  

pyrotek85: I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.



Did they even see the picture? The way I read it, some busybody saw the picture and called the police claiming that he had a mortar gun in his house. Unless the caller specifically mentioned the Facebook post, the police most likely assumed that the caller saw it firsthand, so they wouldn't even know the picture existed.

Now if there's another story somewhere saying that the police found the post on their own while scouring Facebook for lawbreakers, then I'll commence my outrage immediately. But from the info so far, even as a cop hater, this strikes me more as more of a CSB than something to be upset about.
 
2013-02-13 09:51:36 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Do you feel safe yet?  Has sacrificing your freedom been worth it?


the doubletalk int he article is amazing. "it's harmless, it's no big deal", all while people are instead making fun of the guy. I love the "the police acted in good faith", when they clearly never reviewed the photo at all.
 
2013-02-13 09:54:09 AM  
I wonder what the Brits would think if they knew us Yanks were legally allowed to own mortar tubes. As (much like used LAW or AT-4 tubes) they are just inert hunks of metal or fiberglass (thats fibreglass to you crumpet munchers), there really arn't dangerous. Though we are also allowed to own the mortars that go in said tubes if we are willing to pay a $200 tax per mortor for having a 'destructive device'.

Also allowed: Tanks and flamethrowers. Yet NY has a 7 round mag limit.
 
2013-02-13 09:55:17 AM  
Perhaps the article doesn't mention the police ignoring the drugs on the table and only caring about the item they were searching for. I mean the guy has a toy of his friend and his friend's dog, he must be high. Hence why the guy was so chill about the whole shabang.
 
2013-02-13 09:56:06 AM  

cman: So, UK, how is that whole "open the door, we're from the government and we are here to help" thing been treatin ya?


Do you mean warrants? Don't you guys in 'merkinland have to open the door to police who have a search warrant?

Oh wait, you guys just open fire with your 50.cal fully auto assault rifles mounted to your roofs...

In the U.K you don't have to open the door to anyone if they don't have a warrant.

namegoeshere: BillCo: When I first looked at the picture, I thought "what kind of idiot would think that was real".  Then I saw that it was in the U.K.  and it all made sense.

Yeah, the fact that only two of the police officers were armed, and it was apparently worth noting that two officers were armed, threw me for a minute there. Also the fact that they knocked on the door and handed over the warrant instead of SWAT smashing their way in there.


Yeah, 'the two armed officers' threw me as well as I thought this was in the U.S.

Then I realised everyone over there must already own at least one mortar or an RPGs of some sort.

Seriously though, with all the weaponry in U.S homes, I was thinking why a mortar was illegal. Then I realised this story was in the silly U.K.
 
2013-02-13 09:57:35 AM  
OMG it's a 10 foot tall mortar!!!... He's going to blow up Parliament!!


What a bunch of freaking morons.

I would expect this from New York of Kalifornia, but England?  The shining star of logic and competence?

Hhahhaa

Just kidding, England is just as farked up as NY and Kali.
 
2013-02-13 10:03:52 AM  

the ha ha guy: pyrotek85: I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.


Did they even see the picture? The way I read it, some busybody saw the picture and called the police claiming that he had a mortar gun in his house. Unless the caller specifically mentioned the Facebook post, the police most likely assumed that the caller saw it firsthand, so they wouldn't even know the picture existed.

Now if there's another story somewhere saying that the police found the post on their own while scouring Facebook for lawbreakers, then I'll commence my outrage immediately. But from the info so far, even as a cop hater, this strikes me more as more of a CSB than something to be upset about.


If they didn't see the picture and are going off of what some random guy said, I'd think that's a little weak for a warrant. This is the UK though, so that might be meeting the criteria. If I were the judge I'd want to see the picture myself.
 
2013-02-13 10:04:21 AM  
Suddenly dittybopper closes his facebook account
 
2013-02-13 10:13:31 AM  
apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2013-02-13 10:17:51 AM  
WTF? They go out prepared to smash down someone's front door and invade their home without even bothering to look at the picture? Which 'tarded moron's word did they take for this and why?

This is what really scares me about British police nowadays, they have the monopoly on state approved violence but act in such a way that makes me suspect that a lot of people have been promoted beyind their capabilities.
There's been mutterings that they need a professional officer corps like the military.
 
2013-02-13 10:21:16 AM  
Oh, so these are the people that the Iranians make believe.
I was wondering who could be fooled by a weak picture of an obvious toy.
 
2013-02-13 10:28:28 AM  

weapon13: Do you mean warrants? Don't you guys in 'merkinland have to open the door to police who have a search warrant?



In America, we rarely get the chance.

When carrying out a warrant, unless it's just collecting evidence for an ongoing court case, standard procedure is to bust down the door, kill any dogs, handcuff any people, and search the house for anyone else who needs to be dragged out and handcuffed. Once that's done, if anyone is left alive, THEN they'll announce themselves as police, briefly flash the warrant, and begin ransacking the house for whatever it is they're looking for.

Suffice to say, it's not uncommon for people to be killed by police when these warrants are carried out. If it turns out they killed someone at the wrong house, no matter, they just plant a few bags of marijuana and call it a drug bust. If they went to the wrong house but didn't kill anyone, too bad, now the innocent homeowners have to buy new windows, doors, electronics, furniture, etc, because the police sure aren't going to replace the stuff they broke.


But according to American media, the USA is the last stronghold of freedom and human rights in the world, and the UK is nothing but a communist police-run nanny-state...
 
2013-02-13 10:28:33 AM  
Keep the pressure on, Open Carry/AR-15 tards, you're doing a great job getting us to this level of idiocy here in the US of A...
 
2013-02-13 10:35:55 AM  
I don't see why owning a mortar would be illegal.
It's the ammo that goes whoomp-boom!  The tube is just a tube.
Owning a tube is against the law in the U.K. apparently.

Must be a life of constant fear for plumbers over there.
 
2013-02-13 10:43:48 AM  
Come on folks! Does anybody have info on the scale model? I want one!
 
2013-02-13 10:46:26 AM  

the ha ha guy: weapon13: Do you mean warrants? Don't you guys in 'merkinland have to open the door to police who have a search warrant?


In America, we rarely get the chance.

When carrying out a warrant, unless it's just collecting evidence for an ongoing court case, standard procedure is to bust down the door, kill any dogs, handcuff any people, and search the house for anyone else who needs to be dragged out and handcuffed. Once that's done, if anyone is left alive, THEN they'll announce themselves as police, briefly flash the warrant, and begin ransacking the house for whatever it is they're looking for.

Suffice to say, it's not uncommon for people to be killed by police when these warrants are carried out. If it turns out they killed someone at the wrong house, no matter, they just plant a few bags of marijuana and call it a drug bust. If they went to the wrong house but didn't kill anyone, too bad, now the innocent homeowners have to buy new windows, doors, electronics, furniture, etc, because the police sure aren't going to replace the stuff they broke.


But according to American media, the USA is the last stronghold of freedom and human rights in the world, and the UK is nothing but a communist police-run nanny-state...


Don't forget throw flash-bang on top of sleeping children causing burns needing hospitalization and taze demented and bedridden elderly women.
 
2013-02-13 10:51:42 AM  
FTA: We are sure that the community would rather we acted quickly on information given to us of this nature, in case it had turned out to be a weapon.

No, the community would rather you acted thoroughly.  You know, to prevent this kind of shiat from happening in the first place.
 
2013-02-13 10:53:19 AM  

trappedspirit: Suddenly dittybopper closes his facebook account


Luckily, my ancestors decided to leave the UK while the getting was still good.
 
2013-02-13 10:55:03 AM  

weapon13: Then I realised everyone over there must already own at least one mortar


I do.  Wanna see it?  Come on, let me show you my mortar.
 
2013-02-13 10:57:42 AM  

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]

Where is action figure John McClane when you need him?

If he posted this picture, would the police think that he's a terrorist holding a soldier hostage?
www.abc.net.au
 
2013-02-13 10:59:09 AM  

the ha ha guy: The police were notified of a threat, investigated that threat in a completely non-violent manner within the bounds of the law, and went on their way once they had the facts.

"Intelligence Possessor":

Hello, 9-1-1? I saw a picture of a mortar on a guy's facebook page!

9-1-1 Operator: Thank you for calling. Whose Facebook page are we referring to?

"Intelligence Possessor": Marty McFly, in Derbyshire.

9-1-1 Operator: Thank you for calling. We''ll look into this immediately. Good day. *Pulls up Facebook, looks up page; sees toy mortar, with remote control in background. Moves on to next case.*

Nah. Too intelligent and easy. Law enforcement has to pull it out and stroke it every once in a while to feel effective.
 
2013-02-13 11:23:17 AM  

MythDragon: "You have a license for that mortor tube?"
"I do for this one"
"Okay....wait...this one?"


Came for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-13 11:27:33 AM  
At least it wasn't a toy assault mortar gun with extended magazine and laser scope. Those things are very dangerous.
 
2013-02-13 11:35:13 AM  

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

[sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net image 850x637]


My God! Not only is he a terrorist, but an extremely tiny one at that. Why, he could sneak by law enforcement and they wouldn't even see him!
 
2013-02-13 11:50:25 AM  
I have built a motor before they are reall not that hard to make. The rounds are a bit harder to make, but not that bad you just need to be very careful.
 
2013-02-13 11:52:35 AM  

ethics-gradient: WTF? They go out prepared to smash down someone's front door and invade their home without even bothering to look at the picture? Which 'tarded moron's word did they take for this and why?

This is what really scares me about British police nowadays, they have the monopoly on state approved violence but act in such a way that makes me suspect that a lot of people have been promoted beyind their capabilities.
There's been mutterings that they need a professional officer corps like the military.


Come to the U.S. Sometime.  Pick a state, any state.
 
2013-02-13 11:53:51 AM  

zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble


That's some killer baseboar... wainscoting there.
 
2013-02-13 11:54:07 AM  

dittybopper: So, is it OK for me to post a picture of my mortar in this thread?


I came to see if you were ok
 
2013-02-13 11:57:43 AM  

traylor: Good thing I don't post pics of the fully armed Nazi soldiers that I am hiding in my home.


They'd just use substitutiary locomotion on you
 
2013-02-13 11:58:30 AM  
I especially like that the Action Man is dressed as 1980s skinhead about 30 years later.
GS dog, US Air Force jacket and jeans hiked up north of his belly button, still keeping it "aufentik" even if he is missing the DMs.
 
2013-02-13 12:01:45 PM  

jdemartino: "mortar gun"?

 
2013-02-13 12:11:13 PM  

alabasterblack: Come to the U.S. Sometime.  Pick a state, any state.


Oh I'm sure that you have some wrong 'uns in police uniform over there too, I've read enough horror stories of shot dogs and unaccountable malicious 'tards.
My concern is that we have in effect abdicated all respoinsibility for physical defence of our lives and property to well paid people who are too lazy to do something as basic as actually looking at the picture and can be manipulated into staging home invasions by hysterical fools. It's not as if Brit cops are particularly ineducated or badly paid either.
You can imagine what it's like if you've actually been threatened or stolen from with this lot to watch your back.
 
2013-02-13 12:12:42 PM  
PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!!1!
 
2013-02-13 12:16:58 PM  
farm2.staticflickr.com
 
2013-02-13 12:29:39 PM  
Here's another question, did the police even know for sure where that picture was taken? It's not like it was taken in a public place that has landmarks to identify.

I'm just finding it strange that they were able to get a warrant at all.
 
2013-02-13 12:41:50 PM  

ethics-gradient: Oh I'm sure that you have some wrong 'uns in police uniform over there too, I've read enough horror stories of shot dogs and unaccountable malicious 'tards.


Don't worry, the ATF isn't *THAT* big of an agency.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:21 PM  

Fano: dittybopper: So, is it OK for me to post a picture of my mortar in this thread?

I came to see if you were ok


I'm good.  It was a Limey that got hassled.
 
2013-02-13 12:58:02 PM  

HAMMERTOE: zedster: apparently this was the picture that got him in trouble

That's some killer baseboar... wainscoting there.


How do you like the cracked corner? I'm on the way with my mud knife and tape!
 
2013-02-13 01:06:18 PM  

HAMMERTOE: "Intelligence Possessor": Hello, 9-1-1? I saw a picture of a mortar on a guy's facebook page!...


Alternatively:

"Intelligence Possessor": Hello, 9-9-9? Someone has a mortar gun in his house!

9-9-9 Operator: Thank you for calling. Who are we referring to?

"Intelligence Possessor": Marty McFly, in Derbyshire.

9-9-9 Operator: Thank you for calling. We''ll look into this immediately. Good day. *Goes to house; sees toy mortar gun. Moves on to next case.*


Nothing I've read so far implies that they ever saw the facebook page, only that they were told the guy had a mortar gun.
 
2013-02-13 01:22:19 PM  

MythDragon: I wonder what the Brits would think if they knew us Yanks were legally allowed to own mortar tubes. As (much like used LAW or AT-4 tubes) they are just inert hunks of metal or fiberglass (thats fibreglass to you crumpet munchers), there really arn't dangerous. Though we are also allowed to own the mortars that go in said tubes if we are willing to pay a $200 tax per mortor for having a 'destructive device'.


Well sorta right the tube is nothing; depending on the type it's the cup that is the registered part. You gotta pay the NFA dd fees (do a transfer through a ffl) on the mortar if it has the firing pin in the base and the tube hasn't been demilled. And if it has that firing mech intact you still need to transfer though an ffl even if the tube has been filled cut whatever. You can do inert training rounds/smoke without a stamp for each round (well at least that was the case a few years ago).
 
2013-02-13 01:48:40 PM  
farm9.staticflickr.com

Someone needs to alert the military that this house is hiding a fully armed F-14, a AH-1 and a Goddamned aircraft carrier.
 
2013-02-13 02:08:12 PM  

pyrotek85: Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.

I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.


I'm sure they do, too.  It was a funny mistake, not part of some nanny-state conspiracy.
 
2013-02-13 02:34:04 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: MythDragon: I wonder what the Brits would think if they knew us Yanks were legally allowed to own mortar tubes. As (much like used LAW or AT-4 tubes) they are just inert hunks of metal or fiberglass (thats fibreglass to you crumpet munchers), there really arn't dangerous. Though we are also allowed to own the mortars that go in said tubes if we are willing to pay a $200 tax per mortor for having a 'destructive device'.

Well sorta right the tube is nothing; depending on the type it's the cup that is the registered part. You gotta pay the NFA dd fees (do a transfer through a ffl) on the mortar if it has the firing pin in the base and the tube hasn't been demilled. And if it has that firing mech intact you still need to transfer though an ffl even if the tube has been filled cut whatever. You can do inert training rounds/smoke without a stamp for each round (well at least that was the case a few years ago).


Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.
 
2013-02-13 02:34:58 PM  

dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.


FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.
 
2013-02-13 02:51:50 PM  

dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.


So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?
 
2013-02-13 03:02:18 PM  

Dimensio: dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.

So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?


It's not a loophole.  They are expressly not covered by US gun laws, along with things like muzzleloading rifles, smoothbores, and handguns, or cartridge guns manufactured before 1898.
 
2013-02-13 03:17:43 PM  

Mr. Breeze: jdemartino: "mortar gun"?


www.turptech.co.uk
www.turptech.co.uk
 
2013-02-13 04:24:34 PM  
it's "YO JOE" not "GO JOE".  i can't believe i'm the first to point that out.
 
2013-02-13 05:01:29 PM  

dittybopper: Dimensio: dittybopper: dittybopper: Or, you could just go ahead and get a muzzleloading black powder mortar and not have to worry about things like Destructive Device taxes, or even buying them through an FFL.

FTFM.  Mortars generally are loaded by the muzzle, even most modern ones.

So you are saying that Congress needs to close the "black powder mortar loophole"?

It's not a loophole.  They are expressly not covered by US gun laws, along with things like muzzleloading rifles, smoothbores, and handguns, or cartridge guns manufactured before 1898.


At what time has a fact of law not being a loophole prevented individuals from claiming it to be a "loophole"?
 
2013-02-13 06:59:33 PM  

offmymeds: Mr. Breeze: jdemartino: "mortar gun"?

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Ah, yes. Thank you.
 
2013-02-14 05:45:51 AM  
And tattling on your facebook acquaintances is half the battle. GO (not the trademarked yo) JOE!
 
2013-02-14 12:02:56 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: pyrotek85: Would you have rather had the American version, where some kid makes a passing reference to the toy in school, the police interrogate the kid for 10 hours, raid his neighbors house and kill everyone inside, plant evidence suggesting that it was really the right house, and pat themselves on the back for bringing justice to a 92 year old crimelord?

Somehow, I prefer the UK version of events more.

I'd rather they had looked at the picture and realized it's a toy.

I'm sure they do, too.  It was a funny mistake, not part of some nanny-state conspiracy.


It is a conspiracy of stupidity.
Getting your emotional buttons pushed and running over the Full Retard Cliff should teach a reasonable human something.
 
2013-02-14 03:17:47 PM  

offmymeds: Mr. Breeze: jdemartino: "mortar gun"?

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