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2013-02-12 10:24:08 PM  
That's just wrong wrong wrong wrong and wrong...
+1
 
2013-02-12 10:26:20 PM  
Please go green.....
 
2013-02-12 10:30:29 PM  
goodbye chocolate rambo man.
 
2013-02-12 10:30:33 PM  
I'm voting this one, even if it should really be kebap
 
2013-02-12 10:36:59 PM  
geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .
 
2013-02-12 10:39:31 PM  
We all knew there was no way he'd be taken alive.
 
2013-02-12 10:39:48 PM  
Did anyone ever really suspect that he's see a courtroom?
 
2013-02-12 10:40:33 PM  

sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .


This whole thing has been off.  There's no reason to believe they're telling the truth about any of this, the response doesn't come close to matching it.
 
2013-02-12 10:41:17 PM  
He isn't dead.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-12 10:41:37 PM  
This will be a stolen headline joke for sure.  So wrong.. yet nailed it.  +1
 
2013-02-12 10:50:58 PM  
i364.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-12 11:03:23 PM  
Could have given him s'mores time.
 
2013-02-12 11:06:47 PM  
LAPD Press conference saying the body has NOT been identified or even located at this time.
 
2013-02-12 11:06:53 PM  

basemetal: Could have given him s'mores time.


Time to notify the next of kindling.
 
2013-02-12 11:08:21 PM  
Cabin has not even been entered yet.
 
2013-02-12 11:09:56 PM  
Amazing how much bullshiat information gets spread around.
 
2013-02-12 11:11:48 PM  

basemetal: Could have given him s'mores time.


That is a 3rd degree pun at best
 
2013-02-12 11:13:44 PM  

One Bad Apple: basemetal: Could have given him s'mores time.

That is a 3rd degree pun at best


After 6 days on the run he's probably pretty ashy by now.
 
2013-02-12 11:15:58 PM  

me texan: This will be a stolen headline joke for sure.  So wrong.. yet nailed it.  +1


I just kept picturing him in a cabin, with 3 bears tied up to chairs, while he tried out their porridge and beds.
 
2013-02-12 11:17:28 PM  

doyner: One Bad Apple: basemetal: Could have given him s'mores time.

That is a 3rd degree pun at best

After 6 days on the run he's probably pretty ashy by now.


He did urn that death sentence
 
2013-02-12 11:19:20 PM  

One Bad Apple: doyner: One Bad Apple: basemetal: Could have given him s'mores time.

That is a 3rd degree pun at best

After 6 days on the run he's probably pretty ashy by now.

He did urn that death sentence


Well, it IS ash Wednesday tomorrow.
 
2013-02-12 11:19:28 PM  
It's kebab
 
2013-02-12 11:26:18 PM  
i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-02-12 11:26:44 PM  
God DAMN headline is awesome!


What the fark is wrong with Fark? Either the headlines are shiatty and snarkless or the headlines are pure brilliance. There seems to be no more inbetween space
 
2013-02-12 11:28:36 PM  
Well played, subs. You had my upvote.
 
2013-02-12 11:31:01 PM  

cretinbob: It's kebab


cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob
 
2013-02-12 11:33:08 PM  

daRog: cretinbob: It's kebab

cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob


Everybody's a critic...

Pleased to meet you.
 
2013-02-12 11:37:53 PM  
He's a real bad ash.
 
2013-02-12 11:47:18 PM  
he's alive mofo's
 
2013-02-12 11:54:30 PM  
images.wolfgangsvault.com

He's still alive.

OOOoooooh he's still alive...
 
2013-02-13 12:11:55 AM  
Yeah, this one will do for now.
 
2013-02-13 12:16:31 AM  
i287.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-13 12:17:03 AM  

doyner: daRog: cretinbob: It's kebab

cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob

Everybody's a critic...

Pleased to meet you.


It can be spelled multiple ways, depending on which country.

I've seen it spelled

kebab
kebob
kabab
kabob
 
2013-02-13 12:19:09 AM  

make me some tea: doyner: daRog: cretinbob: It's kebab

cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob

Everybody's a critic...

Pleased to meet you.

It can be spelled multiple ways, depending on which country.

I've seen it spelled

kebab
kebob
kabab
kabob


Or cretinbab
 
2013-02-13 12:19:33 AM  

One Bad Apple: doyner: One Bad Apple: basemetal: Could have given him s'mores time.

That is a 3rd degree pun at best

After 6 days on the run he's probably pretty ashy by now.

He did urn that death sentence


This is a bad joke, and you should feel bad.
 
2013-02-13 12:24:14 AM  

doyner: make me some tea: doyner: daRog: cretinbob: It's kebab

cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob

Everybody's a critic...

Pleased to meet you.

It can be spelled multiple ways, depending on which country.

I've seen it spelled

kebab
kebob
kabab
kabob

Or cretinbab


cretinbab does not sound good to eat. Do you know what they make cretins out of?
 
2013-02-13 12:31:44 AM  

libranoelrose:


This is a bad joke, and you should feel bad.


Dude you suck at puns.
 
2013-02-13 12:33:11 AM  

make me some tea: cretinbab does not sound good to eat. Do you know what they make cretins out of?


Tin. Duh.
 
2013-02-13 01:37:36 AM  
This far in and no Trailer park boys refs ? you guys need to watch more Canadian tv
 
2013-02-13 02:18:59 AM  
So, Burning Man is at Big Bear this year?
 
2013-02-13 03:06:02 AM  
If that wasn't a black dude cornered in the cabin, well, he is now.
 
2013-02-13 04:02:26 AM  
What he did was wrong.. What the cops did to kill him was worse..

"All right Steve we're gonna go...uh...we're gonna forward with the plan with the...with the burner"

"Copy"

"Want it..uh...liked we talked about"

"Burners deployed and we have a fire"

"Copy seven burners deployed and we have a a fire"
 
2013-02-13 04:03:17 AM  
Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.
 
2013-02-13 04:03:40 AM  
if the cops who shot those ladies don't end up in prison there better be vigilantee justice
 
2013-02-13 04:06:16 AM  

The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.


Anyone listening to the police scanner heard it and there are numerous recordings (I just posted a transcript of part of it) of it posted eveywhere of one of the cops directing them to burn the farker down..
 
2013-02-13 04:06:36 AM  

make me some tea: doyner: daRog: cretinbob: It's kebab

cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob

Everybody's a critic...

Pleased to meet you.

It can be spelled multiple ways, depending on which country.

I've seen it spelled

kebab
kebob
kabab
kabob


The Halal 9000
 
2013-02-13 04:07:02 AM  

The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.


they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
www.greatnorthernprepper.com
word is they found the body
 
2013-02-13 04:10:48 AM  

The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.


For the next version of Grand Theft Auto, after your wanted level goes to six stars, the next level is a burning building.
 
2013-02-13 04:12:31 AM  
Sniper?
 
2013-02-13 04:12:41 AM  
I see the Los Angeles Posse Department got their man. It kinda reminds me of Waco. Does it remind anyone else of Waco? Any officers accidentally shoot themselves in a leg during the bloodlust?
 
2013-02-13 04:13:09 AM  
he's the hero we deserve
 
2013-02-13 04:13:14 AM  
I'm sure we'll learn how the fire started. Mhmm.
 
2013-02-13 04:13:50 AM  

ArtosRC: I'm sure we'll learn how the fire started. Mhmm.


the cops started it
 
2013-02-13 04:13:54 AM  
the cabin caught fire "accidentally from a flash grenade". What a bunch of Baloney.
 
2013-02-13 04:15:07 AM  

Acharne: I see the Los Angeles Posse Department got their man. It kinda reminds me of Waco. Does it remind anyone else of Waco? Any officers accidentally shoot themselves in a leg during the bloodlust?


Waco, SLA in the 70s, Those dudes in Philly.  Bottom line is, if you've pissed off the PD enough and they've cornered you, they ain't gonna negotiate, they'll just light you on fire.
 
2013-02-13 04:16:26 AM  

tweek46420: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
[www.greatnorthernprepper.com image 500x376]
word is they found the body


It's clear here around :40 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186730/-BREAKING-Burn-that- f -ker-down-say-cops
 
2013-02-13 04:19:09 AM  
Brought it on himself.
 
2013-02-13 04:19:10 AM  
The body is a plant. He had it in there already, and that's why he went there, so he could "die".

Where'd he get the body? Easy. You can get a body anywhere. I can get you a body.


image.guardian.co.uk
 
2013-02-13 04:19:25 AM  

cman: God DAMN headline is awesome!


What the fark is wrong with Fark? Either the headlines are shiatty and snarkless or the headlines are pure brilliance. There seems to be no more inbetween space


The whole world is polarized.
 
2013-02-13 04:20:01 AM  

The Southern Dandy: Acharne: I see the Los Angeles Posse Department got their man. It kinda reminds me of Waco. Does it remind anyone else of Waco? Any officers accidentally shoot themselves in a leg during the bloodlust?

Waco, SLA in the 70s, Those dudes in Philly.  Bottom line is, if you've pissed off the PD enough and they've cornered you, they ain't gonna negotiate, they'll just light you on fire.


30 helens agree- thats a fact.
 
2013-02-13 04:20:27 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: tweek46420: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
[www.greatnorthernprepper.com image 500x376]
word is they found the body

It's clear here around :40 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186730/-BREAKING-Burn-that- f -ker-down-say-cops


Of course, the LAPD ain't gonna pay out to anybody, so when they get sued for damages to the house, they'll deny this is them on the recording. Also, they won't pay the lady hostage the million dollar reward for her call to them.  Bet!
 
2013-02-13 04:20:31 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: the cabin caught fire "accidentally from a flash grenade". What a bunch of Baloney.


Alternate theory...

i293.photobucket.com
 
2013-02-13 04:20:33 AM  

ontariolightning: if the cops who shot those ladies don't end up in prison there better be vigilantee justice


They will not be charged with anything. LAPD will pay out a large settlement to the victims, and the officers involved will have a mark on their records regarding the shooting, but otherwise nothing will happen.

"Mistakes happen", they'll say, and pin the responsibility for the shooting on the freshly-crispified Dorner. If he hadn't allegedly shot two civilians and some cops, then the officers involved in this shooting wouldn't have been looking for him and mistakenly thought the ladies vehicle was suspicious, thus requiring them to open fire for their own safety and the safety of others.

It's bullshiat, but trust me, that's the way it'll play out.
 
2013-02-13 04:20:35 AM  
BarkingUnicorn: cman: God DAMN headline is awesome!


What the fark is wrong with Fark? Either the headlines are shiatty and sn! arkless or the headlines are pure brilliance. There seems to be no more inbetween space

The whole world is polarized.

RAAACIIIIISSSSST!!!
/I kid I kid
 
2013-02-13 04:20:49 AM  
Crisp Dorner, you say?
 
2013-02-13 04:21:38 AM  

deffuse: BarkingUnicorn: cman: God DAMN headline is awesome!


What the fark is wrong with Fark? Either the headlines are shiatty and sn! arkless or the headlines are pure brilliance. There seems to be no more inbetween space

The whole world is polarized.

RAAACIIIIISSSSST!!!
/I kid I kid

WTF happened to by italics?  Grumble Grumble
 
2013-02-13 04:21:38 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: tweek46420: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
[www.greatnorthernprepper.com image 500x376]
word is they found the body

It's clear here around :40 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186730/-BREAKING-Burn-that- f -ker-down-say-cops


This one sounds more legit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24WJr4Ye8xY&feature=youtu.be
 
2013-02-13 04:23:02 AM  
Hero.

Pure and simple.
 
2013-02-13 04:23:04 AM  

Hagenhatesyouall: The body is a plant. He had it in there already, and that's why he went there, so he could "die".

Where'd he get the body? Easy. You can get a body anywhere. I can get you a body.



image.guardian.co.uk

By 3 oclock yesterday afternoon
 
2013-02-13 04:28:26 AM  
If that is what happens I sincerely hope there are more Dorners out there

MmmmBacon: ontariolightning: if the cops who shot those ladies don't end up in prison there better be vigilantee justice

They will not be charged with anything. LAPD will pay out a large settlement to the victims, and the officers involved will have a mark on their records regarding the shooting, but otherwise nothing will happen.

"Mistakes happen", they'll say, and pin the responsibility for the shooting on the freshly-crispified Dorner. If he hadn't allegedly shot two civilians and some cops, then the officers involved in this shooting wouldn't have been looking for him and mistakenly thought the ladies vehicle was suspicious, thus requiring them to open fire for their own safety and the safety of others.

It's bullshiat, but trust me, that's the way it'll play out.

 
2013-02-13 04:28:27 AM  

salsashark1: Hero.

Pure and simple.


Mad dog.  Simple.  Doesn't make the pack that took him down any less rabid.
 
2013-02-13 04:28:51 AM  
You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.
 
2013-02-13 04:30:32 AM  

styckx: What he did was wrong.. What the cops did to kill him was worse..

"All right Steve we're gonna go...uh...we're gonna forward with the plan with the...with the burner"

"Copy"

"Want it..uh...liked we talked about"

"Burners deployed and we have a fire"

"Copy seven burners deployed and we have a a fire"


I was just listening to the audio and came back here to comment on exactly those same 5 lines but you've done it.
Hearing them sure makes it sound like they were being a little nefarious in their intentions.
 
2013-02-13 04:31:33 AM  
I guess they decided a Hellfire missile was too obvious.
 
2013-02-13 04:36:17 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.


^THIS^
 
2013-02-13 04:37:09 AM  
I want it to be like a hollywood movie,

I want the camera to close in on a coroner's office where some guy in a white coat is pouring over the charred remains of the body...suddenly he looks up just as the camera zooms in on his shocked face "Oh, shiat" he'll say as the realization that this isn't Dorner comes to him.

Smash cut to some wilderness road where a pick up truck comes to a grinding halt and Dorner, dressed as the dead cop from the cabin climbs out, and changes vehicles and clothes...all as he had planned it.

That would be badass...
 
2013-02-13 04:37:16 AM  

Owangotang: Brought it on himself.


Therefor, screw due process.
 
2013-02-13 04:38:07 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.



Also it would be awesome to put a thumb in the eye of the wives, children, grandchildren, friends, and relatives of the INNOCENT people he assassinated right?...cuz you know....Fark them
 
2013-02-13 04:38:22 AM  
As long as they're crooked/racist cops out there he'll be back. A modern day superhero.
 
2013-02-13 04:38:32 AM  

friedlinx: AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.

^THIS^


^THAT^
 
2013-02-13 04:40:57 AM  

publikenemy: AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.


Also it would be awesome to put a thumb in the eye of the wives, children, grandchildren, friends, and relatives of the INNOCENT people he assassinated right?...cuz you know....Fark them


I'm sure you meant 'murdered' and not 'assassinated'.

Let me phrase my opinion in the form of a quote from a wise man.

Tragedy is when i stub my toe.
Comedy is when you fall into a manhole and die.
  - Mel Brooks
 
2013-02-13 04:41:19 AM  

One Bad Apple: libranoelrose:


This is a bad joke, and you should feel bad.

Dude you suck at puns.


And did you know that a burner is just cop slang for tear gas?

It has to be true, someone posted it in TFD.
 
2013-02-13 04:41:40 AM  
What the body might look like
crazygrill.net
 
2013-02-13 04:42:20 AM  

styckx: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

Anyone listening to the police scanner heard it and there are numerous recordings (I just posted a transcript of part of it) of it posted eveywhere of one of the cops directing them to burn the farker down..


Unfortunately, I was away from my computer to listen to the scanner. Man, LE went too far on this one. If you can't shoot him, wait him out. Cut the power. Cut the water.
 
2013-02-13 04:42:50 AM  
www.greatnorthernprepper.com

tweek46420: word is they found the body


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-13 04:43:05 AM  
if those remains aren't Dorner the LAPD just got one more black eye instead of one more black guy
 
2013-02-13 04:43:12 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Tragedy is when i stub my toe.
Comedy is when you fall into a manhole and die


lol
 
2013-02-13 04:43:39 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.


Well, except for that whole murdering innocent people thing he had going on.  That kinda turns me off on him.
 
2013-02-13 04:44:11 AM  
S'more for DornerWe don't need no water let the motherfarker burn, Burn motherfarker burn.
 
2013-02-13 04:45:32 AM  

friedlinx: [www.greatnorthernprepper.com image 500x376]
tweek46420: word is they found the body

[25.media.tumblr.com image 150x134]


how....white or black....once you charred...you charred
 
2013-02-13 04:45:43 AM  
I really want there to be no body. Not because I think he's a hero (killing family members nixed that), but just to keep the cops demonstrating what a bunch of farking gangbanger thugs they are.
 
2013-02-13 04:46:31 AM  
 
2013-02-13 04:48:21 AM  
 FTA:  "Dorner, who reportedly crashed a purple Nissan, was then spotted driving a 2008 four-door, white Dodge 4X4 truck around 1:30 p.m."

Always with the white SUV.
 
2013-02-13 04:48:30 AM  

GAT_00: sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .

This whole thing has been off.  There's no reason to believe they're telling the truth about any of this, the response doesn't come close to matching it.

~
~
Can anyone tell me WHAT is possibly being covered up?

Or point me to a tin foil hat link?

It's been doing my head in. Cover up  cover up cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up!!!

Understood already. What are they covering up? And who are "they" for that matter?
 
2013-02-13 04:48:55 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: publikenemy: AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.


Also it would be awesome to put a thumb in the eye of the wives, children, grandchildren, friends, and relatives of the INNOCENT people he assassinated right?...cuz you know....Fark them

I'm sure you meant 'murdered' and not 'assassinated'.

Let me phrase my opinion in the form of a quote from a wise man.

Tragedy is when i stub my toe.
Comedy is when you fall into a manhole and die.
  - Mel Brooks


No, I mean as·sas·si·nate ( -s s -n t ). tr.v. as·sas·si·nat·ed, as·sas·si·nat·ing, as·sas·si·nates. 1. To murder (a prominent person) by surprise attack, as for political reasons.

Sounds like an assassination to me bruh...maybe they weren't prominent, but they were to him. He's a fokkn coward. Kids are crying for their dead fathers this morning.

/wait, lemme stick my thumb in their crying eyes
 
2013-02-13 04:48:56 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: Someone at 4chan was already on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl1gZPLOp8s&feature=youtu.be


You would seriously post that with no warning while I'm listening to the Cranberries?
 
2013-02-13 04:51:20 AM  

Big Ramifications: being covered up?


Criminal behavior being SOP in the LAPD?
 
2013-02-13 04:52:16 AM  

Tony_Pepperoni: friedlinx: AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.

^THIS^

^THAT^


thedailywire319.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-02-13 04:52:48 AM  

Jeeemz: FTA:  "Dorner, who reportedly crashed a purple Nissan, was then spotted driving a 2008 four-door, white Dodge 4X4 truck around 1:30 p.m."

Always with the white SUV.


So, if they don't find the body, everyone in Red Chevrolet regular-cab 2WD pickups had better stay off the roads for a bit...
 
2013-02-13 04:54:27 AM  

libranoelrose: Big Ramifications: being covered up?

Criminal behavior being SOP in the LAPD?


Thanks. 'Cept now I have to hit Urban dictionary to figure out what SOP means....
 
2013-02-13 04:56:39 AM  

Big Ramifications: libranoelrose: Big Ramifications: being covered up?

Criminal behavior being SOP in the LAPD?

Thanks. 'Cept now I have to hit Urban dictionary to figure out what SOP means....


Standard operating procedure
 
2013-02-13 04:56:49 AM  
Standard Operating Procedure.
 
2013-02-13 04:58:35 AM  

Big Ramifications: GAT_00: sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .

This whole thing has been off.  There's no reason to believe they're telling the truth about any of this, the response doesn't come close to matching it.
~
~
Can anyone tell me WHAT is possibly being covered up?

Or point me to a tin foil hat link?

It's been doing my head in. Cover up  cover up cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up cover up  cover up  cover up  cover up!!!

Understood already. What are they covering up? And who are "they" for that matter?


In 2008, a police officer was terminated for reporting a crime the police say they didn't commit. This man cited his termination in his manifesto he posted on his Facebook wall. Today, still wanted by the government, he survives as a fugitive from justice. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find him, maybe you can hire... The D-Team.
 
2013-02-13 04:59:12 AM  

Big Ramifications: libranoelrose: Big Ramifications: being covered up?

Criminal behavior being SOP in the LAPD?

Thanks. 'Cept now I have to hit Urban dictionary to figure out what SOP means....


To soak up gravy or sauce with a biscuit.
 
2013-02-13 04:59:48 AM  
Ms Mapes beat me by 10 seconds *and* got a quote in there?

*sigh*

Mavis Beacon, you have failed me.

*hangs head in shame*
 
2013-02-13 05:02:44 AM  
He MAY be dead because of deadly standoff. Dead.

Excellent punditry.
 
2013-02-13 05:03:04 AM  

The Shatner Incident: Unfortunately, I was away from my computer to listen to the scanner. Man, LE went too far on this one. If you can't shoot him, wait him out. Cut the power. Cut the water.


Continuing that thought... Bring in large, loudspeakers and banks of lights, so you can keep him up all night with music and blinding light. Toss a throw-phone to the cabin and try to communicate with him (using an impartial FBI hostage negotiator). You know, the usual stuff they do with barricaded gunmen wanted for murder.
 
2013-02-13 05:03:20 AM  
So the way I was reading the story, he still had one hostage in the cabin. What happened to him or her?
 
2013-02-13 05:05:39 AM  
Doh. Never mind. Ignore the tard .
 
2013-02-13 05:06:11 AM  
Did anyone honestly expect anything different to happen?
It wasn't just that he was shooting and killing cops. He killed a cop's daughter with her fiance in her car from ambush. No wonder the entire LAPD and surrounding areas law went apeshiat

He could have drove up to the White House with a full press crew, stripped himself naked then handcuffed himself and they would have "found" him dead after "resisting" arrest.
 
2013-02-13 05:07:06 AM  

sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .


This.
 
2013-02-13 05:10:09 AM  
Direct quote from the police scanner feed: "We are going to go forward with the plan to burn."

Who knew that the police falls back on strategies optimized in the Middle Ages. Who is going to do an analysis of all the scandals that accured over the last couple of days?
 
2013-02-13 05:12:15 AM  
So they think dorner is kebab.
Has LAPD removed kebab yet?

/Too much time spent on /k/...
 
2013-02-13 05:12:33 AM  
So whose cabin was this, anyway?
 
2013-02-13 05:12:54 AM  

hinten: Direct quote from the police scanner feed: "We are going to go forward with the plan to burn."

Who knew that the police falls back on strategies optimized in the Middle Ages. Who is going to do an analysis of all the scandals that accured over the last couple of days?


You know the answer.  No one.

They'll hem and haw until the next season of America's Honey Boo Boo Baby's Daddy Got Talent comes on and every one forgets.
 
2013-02-13 05:14:05 AM  

styckx: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

Anyone listening to the police scanner heard it and there are numerous recordings (I just posted a transcript of part of it) of it posted eveywhere of one of the cops directing them to burn the farker down..


Yup more than one officer says more than once burn the (2 sylable bleeped word) inthe recordings. Not sure whether they said farker or ni-bong or both since it was multilpe persons multiple times.
 
2013-02-13 05:17:32 AM  

Tony_Pepperoni: friedlinx: AverageAmericanGuy: You almost want to root for Dorner to come out of this unscathed just to put his thumb in the LAPD's eye.

^THIS^

^THAT^


^THOSE^
 
2013-02-13 05:18:39 AM  

Oldiron_79: styckx: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

Anyone listening to the police scanner heard it and there are numerous recordings (I just posted a transcript of part of it) of it posted eveywhere of one of the cops directing them to burn the farker down..

Yup more than one officer says more than once burn the (2 sylable bleeped word) inthe recordings. Not sure whether they said farker or ni-bong or both since it was multilpe persons multiple times.


The recording is very clear: "go ahead with the plan to burn". They actually had planned this offline and were somewhat shy discussing it over the radios. The devices, tear gas or flashbang, were thrown into the building for one purpose only.
And someone in the police force decided that this was a good, just, and acceptable plan.
 
2013-02-13 05:20:50 AM  

way south: So they think dorner is kebab.
Has LAPD removed kebab yet?

/Too much time spent on /k/...


static.guim.co.uk
 
2013-02-13 05:22:02 AM  

Aces and Eights: So whose cabin was this, anyway?


www.paramountvt.org
 
2013-02-13 05:29:07 AM  
Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin
 
2013-02-13 05:32:45 AM  

NicoFinn: sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .

This.


^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^
 
2013-02-13 05:37:15 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: Aces and Eights: So whose cabin was this, anyway?


Seriously. I haven't seen a reference in any of the coverage that indicates the owner of the cabin. Was it Dorner's? Or just some random little-cabin-in-The-woods.
 
2013-02-13 05:38:22 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: So the way I was reading the story, he still had one hostage in the cabin. What happened to him or her?


No, I think this was a different cabin than the location where he had hostages. There were a couple different vehicle changes and at least one shootout that took place between the two locations.
 
2013-02-13 05:39:33 AM  
Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1
 
2013-02-13 05:41:15 AM  
Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film
 
2013-02-13 05:43:16 AM  
This blows.  Looks like the bad guys win in real life again.
 
2013-02-13 05:43:54 AM  

tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1


They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well. 

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.
 
2013-02-13 05:44:31 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film


I dont think anyone sees him as a hero.
 
2013-02-13 05:45:37 AM  

The Shatner Incident: styckx: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

Anyone listening to the police scanner heard it and there are numerous recordings (I just posted a transcript of part of it) of it posted eveywhere of one of the cops directing them to burn the farker down..

Unfortunately, I was away from my computer to listen to the scanner. Man, LE went too far on this one. If you can't shoot him, wait him out. Cut the power. Cut the water.


The sooner the LAPD murdered him, without a trial, the sooner the LAPD could get back to doing what it does best while the general public forgets everything... and the establishment media searches for a new reason not to engage in investigativve reporting anymore.
 
2013-02-13 05:46:34 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: This blows.  Looks like the bad guys win in real life again.




Are you brain damaged? He could have surrendered to the last two cops he shot. No one but himself sealed his fate
 
2013-02-13 05:46:50 AM  

cman: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film

I dont think anyone sees him as a hero.


The police certainly aren't fitting the role either.
 
2013-02-13 05:47:51 AM  
Dude lost any sympathy from me once he thought that involving innocent people in his crusade was acceptable.  I have NO doubt that the LAPD is as corrupt as he claims, but his methods leave much to be desired.

And if I was the owner of that cabin, I'd have encouraged the SBPD to burn the farker down around his ears to avoid any further loss of life.
 
2013-02-13 05:49:20 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: The sooner the LAPD murdered him, without a trial, the sooner the LAPD could get back to doing what it does best while the general public forgets everything... and the establishment media searches for a new reason not to engage in investigativve reporting anymore.


So who do you believe: aliens were behind the 9/11 attacks, or our own government?
 
2013-02-13 05:49:48 AM  
OK dug farther back and found it. Some random cabin it appears. I wasn't glued to the media all day yesterday so missed that part.
 
2013-02-13 05:50:15 AM  

TheWarp: cman: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film

I dont think anyone sees him as a hero.

The police certainly aren't fitting the role either.




The LAPD are not in the wrong here. He chose to go down the path he took. Could have worked within the system if he thought wrongs were being commited
 
2013-02-13 05:50:54 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: ExperianScaresCthulhu: This blows.  Looks like the bad guys win in real life again.

Are you brain damaged? He could have surrendered to the last two cops he shot. No one but himself sealed his fate


You are naive.

If the option of surrender had been available, two women and one man would not have ended up with injuries, several peoples' houses and cars would not have been shot up while the police blew away anything that moved,  a dentist office wouldn't have witnessed a world record 3 minute response time because of a false sighting report, and people wouldn't have resorted to the Lowe's incident to get the police to actual respond to a real disturbance.

Dorner was a dead man walking. It was in the LAPD's best interests to murder him as quickly as possible.

/surrender was a real option, yeah right
//and DWB and WintgWW (walking in the ghetto while white) are urban legends
 
2013-02-13 05:52:09 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: This blows.  Looks like the bad guys win in real life again.


Problem is, there were no good guys in this story.
 
2013-02-13 05:52:46 AM  

Kenny B: [i364.photobucket.com image 299x156]


hope you feel that way about everyone the LAPD murders.

/you do know the meaning of "suspect" don't you?
 
2013-02-13 05:54:46 AM  

cman: ExperianScaresCthulhu: The sooner the LAPD murdered him, without a trial, the sooner the LAPD could get back to doing what it does best while the general public forgets everything... and the establishment media searches for a new reason not to engage in investigativve reporting anymore.

So who do you believe: aliens were behind the 9/11 attacks, or our own government?


I was raised Catholic. I believe(d) a lot of things you may not believe.

/only nutjobs believe Thomas Jefferson/Strom Thurmond screwed Sally Hemings/Carrie Butler
//I know how it works, which is why I don't care
 
2013-02-13 05:56:03 AM  

Sgygus: If that wasn't a black dude cornered in the cabin, well, he is now.


everyone is black to the LAPD...
 
2013-02-13 05:58:21 AM  

IronOcelot: hinten: Direct quote from the police scanner feed: "We are going to go forward with the plan to burn."

Who knew that the police falls back on strategies optimized in the Middle Ages. Who is going to do an analysis of all the scandals that accured over the last couple of days?

You know the answer.  No one.

They'll hem and haw until the next season of America's Honey Boo Boo Baby's Daddy Got Talent comes on and every one forgets.


^^^^^^^^^^ This.  Fk our national media, and fk us.
 
2013-02-13 06:00:46 AM  
Trail by a jury of your peers.

Not an execution by the asshats you have a complaint against.

You cannot pick and choose the parts of the Constitution you want to follow.

The cops have to follow Due Process. It is what makes this country great and establishes the rule of law. Anyone cheering on the police, doesn't get that the other murder is still alleged. Alleged means they think he did but have not prove so in a court of law. You know the way things are meant to work.

I am not saying this guy is a hero, far from it. I think he was someone that needed some serious help and didn't get it. The LAPD needs some serious help too, first in how to conduct police business, second in law, and third, how to capture someone.
 
GBB
2013-02-13 06:06:44 AM  
scientopia.org
Pretty sure this is not how the movie ends.


s3.vidimg.popscreen.com
So, did you hear what happened to Dahmer?
 
2013-02-13 06:08:37 AM  
Didn't a season of Dexter end like this?
 
2013-02-13 06:09:16 AM  

NicoFinn: sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .

This.


The ultimate gang.
 
2013-02-13 06:10:52 AM  

gadian: Didn't a season of Dexter end like this?


Yes, kinda

Its that season when Dexters sister wants to bang Dexter
 
2013-02-13 06:13:25 AM  
Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.
 
2013-02-13 06:14:22 AM  
www.inspirefusion.com
 
2013-02-13 06:14:40 AM  

reggaejunkiejew: the cabin caught fire "accidentally from a flash grenade". What a bunch of

Malarkey  Baloney.

FTFY
 
2013-02-13 06:16:04 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.


Shhhh! Quiet you!

You are speaking against someone's preconceived beliefs. No matter what you say you aint changing their mind.
 
2013-02-13 06:16:17 AM  

cman: gadian: Didn't a season of Dexter end like this?

Yes, kinda

Its that season when Dexters sister wants to bang Dexter


No it's not.

Stop with the spoilers though.
 
2013-02-13 06:17:36 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: TheWarp: cman: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film

I dont think anyone sees him as a hero.

The police certainly aren't fitting the role either.

The LAPD are not in the wrong here. He chose to go down the path he took. Could have worked within the system if he thought wrongs were being commited


stop hitting yourself, right?
 
2013-02-13 06:20:38 AM  
I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?
 
2013-02-13 06:22:04 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?


http://I can tell you have never been out of the United States.
 
2013-02-13 06:22:45 AM  

cman: HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?

http://I can tell you have never been out of the United States.


WOW Fark, how did you screw that up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doner_kebab
 
2013-02-13 06:23:42 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?


A popular food item is called a donor kebab.
 
2013-02-13 06:23:43 AM  

gadian: Didn't a season of Dexter end like this?


images.wikia.com

Sees what you did there.
 
2013-02-13 06:24:45 AM  

cman: Bartleby the Scrivener: Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.

Shhhh! Quiet you!

You are speaking against someone's preconceived beliefs. No matter what you say you aint changing their mind.


Cops had a legit time problem too.  They couldn't confirm he was in there supposedly.  If they waited this out for a week and a half then what?  You either go in and another cop or two dies or you find out it is empty and the guy pops up in florida and takes pop shots at more fish and game officers etc?  They were right to get this shiat resolved.  He could of turned himself in at any time.  For all you 'well they would have killed him anyway you look at it' people, how about he gets a lawyer and negotiates his surrender instead of kidnapping innocent ladies and then killing an officer for a department that had nothing to do with this entire thing?  Hell I'm sure if he showed up at any news station and asked them to help him they would of had an orgasm.
 
2013-02-13 06:24:53 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?


media-cdn.tripadvisor.com
 
2013-02-13 06:24:54 AM  
Whatever. I think Gyro-ver reacting.

/It's pronounced 'yiddo'
//That's the Chicago way
 
2013-02-13 06:25:37 AM  

cman: HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?

http://www.I-can-tell-you-have-never-been-out-of- the-United-States.net


/FTFY
//Other one would never have worked
///so i was bored
////slashies FTW
 
2013-02-13 06:25:51 AM  

cman: HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?

http://I can tell you have never been out of the United States.


Except I live in London and have lived in 4 continents you are dead on.

Thanks for the explanation though. :)
 
2013-02-13 06:27:59 AM  

SirVagTheTighty: cman: Bartleby the Scrivener: Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.

Shhhh! Quiet you!

You are speaking against someone's preconceived beliefs. No matter what you say you aint changing their mind.

Cops had a legit time problem too.  They couldn't confirm he was in there supposedly.  If they waited this out for a week and a half then what?  You either go in and another cop or two dies or you find out it is empty and the guy pops up in florida and takes pop shots at more fish and game officers etc?  They were right to get this shiat resolved.  He could of turned himself in at any time.  For all you 'well they would have killed him anyway you look at it' people, how about he gets a lawyer and negotiates his surrender instead of kidnapping innocent ladies and then killing an officer for a department that had nothing to do with this entire thing?  Hell I'm sure if he showed up at any news station and asked them to help him they would of had an orgasm.


I am sure no lawyer wants to get shot bringing him in.... after all, if they will shoot the paper lady for just being in the wrong spot at the wrong time, imagine what they would do to a lawyer standing right next to Dorner.
 
2013-02-13 06:28:08 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: cman: HaywoodJablonski: I get that the guy's name is Forner and he's burnt like a kebab, but I don't see how this is a pun. Care to enlighten me?

http://I can tell you have never been out of the United States.

Except I live in London and have lived in 4 continents you are dead on.

Thanks for the explanation though. :)


Oh hey!

My bad, should have clicked on your profile.

Ich leib Deutschland
Ic lufu AEngla Land
 
2013-02-13 06:28:46 AM  
Well... due process was nice while it lasted...
 
2013-02-13 06:29:07 AM  
I've had Turkish/Greek food dozens of times. I wouldn't order a doner kebab, I'd order a lamb kebab, been kebab, etc. doner meant nothing to me until today.

Live and learn I suppose
 
2013-02-13 06:30:30 AM  
RIP haboob
 
2013-02-13 06:32:18 AM  

cman: Mid_mo_mad_man: Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film

I dont think anyone sees him as a hero.


Just the people the LAPD completely farked over and ruined their lives just to (try) to prove their badassery. How many people could that possibly be?

/If we ALL are held to guilt by association, then there are no 'good' cops.
 
2013-02-13 06:34:06 AM  
So is it Dorner or just a barbecue lid a stoned neighbor thought was a charred skeleton of a black man?
 
2013-02-13 06:35:40 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: The Shatner Incident: styckx: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

Anyone listening to the police scanner heard it and there are numerous recordings (I just posted a transcript of part of it) of it posted eveywhere of one of the cops directing them to burn the farker down..

Unfortunately, I was away from my computer to listen to the scanner. Man, LE went too far on this one. If you can't shoot him, wait him out. Cut the power. Cut the water.

The sooner the LAPD murdered him, without a trial, the sooner the LAPD could get back to doing what it does best while the general public forgets everything... and the establishment media searches for a new reason not to engage in investigativve reporting anymore.


An I the only one that noticed that we had multiple Farkers on here, including me , that were listening to the scanner and reporting what was being said as it happened yet the only time this "recording" came up was in YouTube long after the cabin pretty much was in embers ?
 
2013-02-13 06:36:29 AM  

way south: tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1

They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well. 

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.


If by "these shootings" you mean the shootings by the cops of the women who were delivering newspapers, I agree with you absolutely.  The cops who did that ought to be fired and put on trial.  I wouldn't bother with the late Mr. Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim, though.  He had a chance to pursue a civil action against the LAPD; he didn't bother.
 
2013-02-13 06:37:31 AM  

cman: Bartleby the Scrivener: Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.

Shhhh! Quiet you!

You are speaking against someone's preconceived beliefs. No matter what you say you aint changing their mind.


Ive changed at least 3 internet minds since 1996 ill have you know!

In evaluating my beliefs and the facts of this case, ive concluded the following. I believe there is corruption in the lapd and i also believe in due process for alleged criminals as a fundamental right. Typically, when emotions are as high as they were, it usually results in removal of a person who cannot be objective, distanced and rational enough to act accordingly, but in this case it was the entire lapd and related jurisdictions. No doubt there will at least be superficial investigation into procedures as deployed in response to the actions leading up to the incident. Yet, dorners whole MO was to get the police to act the way he believed them to be, trolling them to blow up against procedure. He wanted to go out in a blaze as a martyr for the cause, and having them killl him, right or wrong, more than likely concretized this in his mind. His moral justification for his behavior was larger than the those on paper, either the bible or the constitution, and he was willing to die for that cause...but he wasnt going to do it like a buddhist monk. He had to make a point.
 
2013-02-13 06:41:01 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: cman: Bartleby the Scrivener: Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.

Shhhh! Quiet you!

You are speaking against someone's preconceived beliefs. No matter what you say you aint changing their mind.

Ive changed at least 3 internet minds since 1996 ill have you know!

In evaluating my beliefs and the facts of this case, ive concluded the following. I believe there is corruption in the lapd and i also believe in due process for alleged criminals as a fundamental right. Typically, when emotions are as high as they were, it usually results in removal of a person who cannot be objective, distanced and rational enough to act accordingly, but in this case it was the entire lapd and related jurisdictions. No doubt there will at least be superficial investigation into procedures as deployed in response to the actions leading up to the incident. Yet, dorners whole MO was to get the police to act the way he believed them to be, trolling them to blow up against procedure. He wanted to go out in a blaze as a martyr for the cause, and having them killl him, right or wrong, more than likely concretized this in his mind. His moral justification for his behavior was larger than the those on paper, either the bible or the constitution, and he was willing to die for that cause...but he wasnt going to do it like a buddhist monk. He had to make a point.


Oh hell yeah there is corruption in the LAPD. There is racism indeed. But, he crossed a line when he shot the daughter who was completely uninvolved. Whatever his message was, it is tainted by the fact that he in cold blood killed a civilian.

There will be an investigation, and there will be wrath.
 
2013-02-13 06:41:22 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: Dorner wasnt going to surrender, and no length or amount of negotiation would have resulted in his peaceful resignation. Dykes was taken out after 6 days. What makes anyone think dorner would go differently?

From one perspective this could be an extreme example of suicide by cop. He wrote his letter and said his goodbyes. He forced a larger hand than any due process could grasp.


Nope.

Just because someone might be violent, and might want to go out in a blaze of glory (no pun intended) does not mean the police are automatically allowed to skip trying to get them to give up peacefully. Would it have taken days to accomplish? Maybe. Would they have had to bring in a negotiator from an outside agency - perhaps one Dorner might trust, such as the FBI - to get him out peacefully? Perhaps. Regardless of what it might have taken, the police should have made every effort to do it, because to not bring Dorner in alive just fuels the speculation that he was killed by the cops, as revenge or to silence him. Especially now that audio of the scanner traffic has been released, talking about the burn plan.

Dorner deserved his day in court, just like every alleged criminal does. The police don't get to decide if that criminal is not going to give up, and burn the building they are holed up in.
 
2013-02-13 06:43:39 AM  

tirob: way south: tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1

They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well. 

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.

If by "these shootings" you mean the shootings by the cops of the women who were delivering newspapers, I agree with you absolutely.  The cops who did that ought to be fired and put on trial.  I wouldn't bother with the late Mr. Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim, though.  He had a chance to pursue a civil action against the LAPD; he didn't bother.


...as should the cops that beat the fark out of Rodney King - but thats part of Dorner's rant, though.... Also, civil actions only appeal to those with money. I don't know if he had money (I'm guessing he had enough to buy weapons), but what had he been doing for the past 3+ years??

\What SHOULD happen and what DOES happen usually only favors those that Make or Enforce the laws... go figure.
\\Haven't been following too much beyond the headlines...
 
2013-02-13 06:46:30 AM  

tirob: way south: tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1

They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well. 

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.

If by "these shootings" you mean the shootings by the cops of the women who were delivering newspapers, I agree with you absolutely.  The cops who did that ought to be fired and put on trial.  I wouldn't bother with the late Mr. Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim, though.  He had a chance to pursue a civil action against the LAPD; he didn't bother.




They thought it was worth reviewing when they were using it to smoke him out.
In the aftermath of him being smoked out, I see no reason for the review to stop.
Step by step, they should be forced to explain every angle of this bullshiat.
From the day they hired him till the final shot, account for the entire mess.

/with a conflagration of this size and complexity, you'd think "review ALL THE FILES!" Would be the order of the day.
 
2013-02-13 06:48:01 AM  
This could have been prevented if Charlie Sheen gave him his number.
 
2013-02-13 06:49:05 AM  
or if he dialed 411
 
2013-02-13 06:50:32 AM  

Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin


You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.
 
2013-02-13 06:50:56 AM  
www.tjsl.edu

Approves
 
2013-02-13 06:52:34 AM  
So they've officially recovered a body?
Not to be mistaken with the time they claimed that a body has been recovered but then later said the cabin was too hot to enter.
 
2013-02-13 06:53:05 AM  
I'd say he was more roasted whereas the Gyro (or Doner Kebab) is rotisseried...

upload.wikimedia.org

/Great, now I'm hungry!
 
2013-02-13 06:54:45 AM  

BostonEMT: tirob: way south: tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1

They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well.

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.

If by "these shootings" you mean the shootings by the cops of the women who were delivering newspapers, I agree with you absolutely.  The cops who did that ought to be fired and put on trial.  I wouldn't bother with the late Mr. Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim, though.  He had a chance to pursue a civil action against the LAPD; he didn't bother.

...as should the cops that beat the fark out of Rodney King - but thats part of Dorner's rant, though.... Also, civil actions only appeal to those with money. I don't know if he had money (I'm guessing he had enough to buy weapons), but what had he been doing for the past 3+ years??


I don't know, but one of the things he did *not* do, apparently, was look into the idea of hiring a lawyer who would have taken his wrongful termination case on a contingency fee basis.

Four of the cops who beat the f**k out of Rodney King *were* put on trial.  They were acquitted.
 
2013-02-13 06:54:47 AM  

quatchi: NicoFinn: sithon: geeze ,the cops sure go nuts when they're the victims. I wish they were that energetic when an average citizen was murdered .

This.

^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^


I dunno, if anyone I knew was murdered I don't want them to start shooting anyone driving a black subcompact.
 
2013-02-13 06:54:54 AM  

cman: against procedure. He wanted to go out in a blaze as a martyr for the cause, and having them killl him, right or wrong, more than likely concretized this in his mind. His moral justification for his behavior was larger than the those on paper, either the bible or the constitution, and he was willing to die for that cause...but he wasnt going to do it like a buddhist monk. He had to make a point.

Oh hell yeah there is corruption in the LAPD. There is racism indeed. But, he crossed a line when he shot the daughter who was completely uninvolved. Whatever his message was, it is tainted by the fact that he in cold blood killed a civilian.

There will be an investigation, and there will be wrath.


I was unaware they had changed the definition of wrath to "paid vacation".
 
2013-02-13 06:55:25 AM  
I'd shiat myself if he burst out from the rubble on an Arctic Cat and led the cops on a chase.

I have the sudden urge to watch Death Hunt.
 
2013-02-13 06:58:06 AM  
I am thinking a secret tunnel to excape with a sacrifical burnt to a crisp body to throw the police off the scent for a while.
If a was a homacidal maniac thats what I would do.
//must stop giving me ideas away
 
2013-02-13 06:58:57 AM  
MmmmBacon

I hear your points, but the stakes changed and context developed when he shot at two SB officers leading up to the event, killing one. This wasnt a dykes situation or a waco situation where there was time to negotiate. He had killed civilians before and had new hostages whom he may have killed, forcing the issue with these actions.

I have no doubt that many in lapd wanted this dude dead and that shoot first and ask questions later was at the fore. That this is likely does not negate the fact that he opened fire and took hostages. He knew this and exploited it. He basically communicated "told ya so, told ya so...neener neener neener."
 
2013-02-13 07:01:18 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: I've had Turkish/Greek food dozens of times. I wouldn't order a doner kebab, I'd order a lamb kebab, been kebab, etc. doner meant nothing to me until today.

Live and learn I suppose


You're not alone, I wasn't familiar with the Doner either. Looks like the Turkish Doner and Greek Gyro are made from the same kabab.
 
2013-02-13 07:02:52 AM  
Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.
 
2013-02-13 07:04:48 AM  

tirob: Four of the cops who beat the f**k out of Rodney King *were* put on trial.  They were acquitted.


True. true... and thus they are deemed "innocent" as far as the courtroom goes. Just as Dorner died an innocent man as far as the courtroom goes - not being given the opportunity to have a 'non-biased' jury decide his fate. I guess Dorner got the Equality he wanted in the end. He's just as innocent as they are.

The one thing that I HAVE seen is the video of the cops swinging, hitting and beating Rodney King. I've seen no video yet of Dorner doing anything accept getting money out of an ATM.

\a pig is a pig, no matter how much lipstick you use.
 
2013-02-13 07:06:02 AM  

Bontesla: Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.


See my above post.  If they aren't aren't sure he is in there even more reason to burn the thing.

If someone else is in there they would have no reason not to surrender....
 
2013-02-13 07:06:51 AM  

Bontesla: Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.


In unrelated news, family members state that LL Cool J has gone missing.
 
2013-02-13 07:07:41 AM  
Looks like its time to coroner the former cornered Dorner.
 
2013-02-13 07:09:29 AM  

SirVagTheTighty: Bontesla: Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.

See my above post.  If they aren't aren't sure he is in there even more reason to burn the thing.

If someone else is in there they would have no reason not to surrender....


Yeah... No.
That's not how we handle suspects. We used to consider it bad form to set them on fire.
 
2013-02-13 07:14:16 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: I've had Turkish/Greek food dozens of times. I wouldn't order a doner kebab, I'd order a lamb kebab, been kebab, etc. doner meant nothing to me until today.


The original headline of this thread meant nothing until the admin fixed the spelling.

I doubt subby learned anything today, though.
 
2013-02-13 07:15:18 AM  

phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.


Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.
 
2013-02-13 07:15:53 AM  
Ya know I had something I wanted to say, but now I just want a doner kebab. Man I miss Germany
 
2013-02-13 07:16:48 AM  

The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.


I heard them say on the police scanner 'Burners deployed and we have fire.'

Then they continued to talk about how well the cabin was burning, that the fire had 'good penetration' and was 'self contained' and that they intended to just let it burn.

So yeah, they set the place on fire because burning a man alive is just as good as arresting him.

C18H27NO3: I was just listening to the audio and came back here to comment on exactly those same 5 lines but you've done it.
Hearing them sure makes it sound like they were being a little nefarious in their intentions.


Hearing it as it happened confirmed my suspicions as to why they got a no-fly zone declared and were ordering media to cut all live feeds (which you can hear earlier in the radio talk). It had nothing to do with the person in the cabin being able to see their positions. They just didn't want a video record from multiple angles of them setting a cabin on fire and burning a man alive.
 
2013-02-13 07:17:08 AM  

make me some tea: doyner: make me some tea: doyner: daRog: cretinbob: It's kebab

cretinbob, meet doyner.

doyner; cretinbob

Everybody's a critic...

Pleased to meet you.

It can be spelled multiple ways, depending on which country.

I've seen it spelled

kebab
kebob
kabab
kabob

Or cretinbab

cretinbab does not sound good to eat. Do you know what they make cretins out of?


Liters?
 
2013-02-13 07:20:15 AM  

heili skrimsli: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

I heard them say on the police scanner 'Burners deployed and we have fire.'

Then they continued to talk about how well the cabin was burning, that the fire had 'good penetration' and was 'self contained' and that they intended to just let it burn.

So yeah, they set the place on fire because burning a man alive is just as good as arresting him.

C18H27NO3: I was just listening to the audio and came back here to comment on exactly those same 5 lines but you've done it.
Hearing them sure makes it sound like they were being a little nefarious in their intentions.

Hearing it as it happened confirmed my suspicions as to why they got a no-fly zone declared and were ordering media to cut all live feeds (which you can hear earlier in the radio talk). It had nothing to do with the person in the cabin being able to see their positions. They just didn't want a video record from multiple angles of them setting a cabin on fire and burning a man alive.


^EXACTLY^
 
2013-02-13 07:21:13 AM  
We should totally ban private ownership of firearms. We can trust the police to protect us, clearly.
 
2013-02-13 07:21:36 AM  

tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.


At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.
 
2013-02-13 07:23:34 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: MmmmBacon

I hear your points, but the stakes changed and context developed when he shot at two SB officers leading up to the event, killing one. This wasnt a dykes situation or a waco situation where there was time to negotiate. He had killed civilians before and had new hostages whom he may have killed, forcing the issue with these actions.

I have no doubt that many in lapd wanted this dude dead and that shoot first and ask questions later was at the fore. That this is likely does not negate the fact that he opened fire and took hostages. He knew this and exploited it. He basically communicated "told ya so, told ya so...neener neener neener."


Two SB sheriffs deputies were indeed shot, allegedly by Dorner. This has yet to be confirmed, although I expect it will be found to be true. That still does not mean the other officers on-scene should have been in such a rush to kill him, as that only moreso make it look like they were taking revenge for their fallen brethren. The FBI needed to step in and calm the situation down, and work towards a peaceful resolution. The cabin was most assuredly surrounded by every available cop within 50 miles, so whoever was in the cabin wasn't going anywhere.

The police failed in this manhunt on multiple levels, culminating in the death of their suspect in a burning cabin in the woods. Had a professional negotiator from the FBI been brought in to deal with the situation, leaving the police and sheriffs to man the perimeter only, things might have been solved peacefully. But we'll never know now, and the police will continue to be marred by the death of Dorner.

To many, they have made him a Folk Hero for ptiy's sake, which is stupid as hell, but for those people who already hate the police, Dorner is a martyr. A man who fought the LAPD to clear his name, and died in the process. Dorner should have had his day in court, been tried for his alleged crimes, and likely convicted for them.
 
2013-02-13 07:27:20 AM  

BostonEMT: tirob: Four of the cops who beat the f**k out of Rodney King *were* put on trial.  They were acquitted.

True. true... and thus they are deemed "innocent" as far as the courtroom goes. Just as Dorner died an innocent man as far as the courtroom goes - not being given the opportunity to have a 'non-biased' jury decide his fate. I guess Dorner got the Equality he wanted in the end. He's just as innocent as they are.


I know of no evidence that Dorner ever *asked* a jury to decide his fate.  Which is the point I'm trying to make here.

way south: tirob: way south: tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1

They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well.

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.

If by "these shootings" you mean the shootings by the cops of the women who were delivering newspapers, I agree with you absolutely.  The cops who did that ought to be fired and put on trial.  I wouldn't bother with the late Mr. Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim, though.  He had a chance to pursue a civil action against the LAPD; he didn't bother.

They thought it was worth reviewing when they were using it to smoke him out.
.



Yes they did.  But I think what they did was a tactic rather than a strategy.  And as I mentioned above, if Dorner himself didn't deem the matter worthy of putting before a theoretically impartial tribunal, why should we?
 
2013-02-13 07:27:33 AM  

BostonEMT: Bontesla: Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.

In unrelated news, family members state that LL Cool J has gone missing.


I heard he was going back to Cali.
 
2013-02-13 07:29:01 AM  

Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.


if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.
 
2013-02-13 07:31:20 AM  

MmmmBacon: Bartleby the Scrivener: MmmmBacon

I hear your points, but the stakes changed and context developed when he shot at two SB officers leading up to the event, killing one. This wasnt a dykes situation or a waco situation where there was time to negotiate. He had killed civilians before and had new hostages whom he may have killed, forcing the issue with these actions.

I have no doubt that many in lapd wanted this dude dead and that shoot first and ask questions later was at the fore. That this is likely does not negate the fact that he opened fire and took hostages. He knew this and exploited it. He basically communicated "told ya so, told ya so...neener neener neener."

Two SB sheriffs deputies were indeed shot, allegedly by Dorner. This has yet to be confirmed, although I expect it will be found to be true. That still does not mean the other officers on-scene should have been in such a rush to kill him, as that only moreso make it look like they were taking revenge for their fallen brethren. The FBI needed to step in and calm the situation down, and work towards a peaceful resolution. The cabin was most assuredly surrounded by every available cop within 50 miles, so whoever was in the cabin wasn't going anywhere.

The police failed in this manhunt on multiple levels, culminating in the death of their suspect in a burning cabin in the woods. Had a professional negotiator from the FBI been brought in to deal with the situation, leaving the police and sheriffs to man the perimeter only, things might have been solved peacefully. But we'll never know now, and the police will continue to be marred by the death of Dorner.

To many, they have made him a Folk Hero for ptiy's sake, which is stupid as hell, but for those people who already hate the police, Dorner is a martyr. A man who fought the LAPD to clear his name, and died in the process. Dorner should have had his day in court, been tried for his alleged crimes, and likely convicted for them.


Large amounts of this.

Once they had him cornered in the cabin, all they had to do was wait.  Seal the perimeter, keep everyone at a safe distance, and just see if you can get him out.

Now, it's entirely possible that to many in the Black community, Dorner is going to be a martyr.
 
2013-02-13 07:31:40 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.


I hear they also gave home a wedgie and a kick in the ass before sending them back in! Then the doused it with kerosene, boarded the doors and windows. Read it on the Internet !
 
2013-02-13 07:32:33 AM  

Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.


I'd prefer waiting for an autopsy and a review of what all of the witnesses saw before relying on the assertion of a witness who hasn't been identified yet, and whose vantage point we don't know.
 
2013-02-13 07:34:02 AM  

Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

At one point, someone withthe US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed
back inside.


Did the person hear this from jenny's boyfriend's cousin's US Marshall friend at 31 flavors?
 
2013-02-13 07:34:27 AM  
I don't know much about this case but reading this thread, it sounds like you can take any of the "evidence" and fit it into your preconceived notions.
 
2013-02-13 07:35:04 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: Did the person hear this from jenny's boyfriend's cousin's US Marshall friend at 31 flavors?


Lulz, ayup
 
2013-02-13 07:36:04 AM  
I hope all of these pigs die in a fire themselves. They have no regard for due process and should be removed from civil service.
 
2013-02-13 07:37:57 AM  

drjekel_mrhyde: tweek46420: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
[www.greatnorthernprepper.com image 500x376]
word is they found the body

It's clear here around :40 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186730/-BREAKING-Burn-that- f -ker-down-say-cops


I dont have any problem with them "burning the farker down"... Its the lying about it that is wrong and much much worse.
 
2013-02-13 07:38:15 AM  
tirob:  I know of no evidence that Dorner ever *asked* a jury to decide his fate.  Which is the point I'm trying to make here.

I don't know of ANYONE - guilty or innocent - who ASKS a jury to decide their fate. The innocent don't want it because, well, they're innocent. The guilty don't want it because they got caught.

/your logic is puzzling, or at least the way you're expressing it.
//MY initial point is that Dorner got EXACTLY what the LAPD think he deserved. Their reckless shooting of innocent civilians and destruction of property only proves their complicity in running roughshod over the very laws they're supposed to enforce.
///My second point is that EVERY police Department in the country is the LAPD if only for the very fact that in every state, there are laws don't apply to the police (i.e. speeding, cell phones, etc...). The division has already been made between "us" and "them". Even the 'good' cops are guilty by association for NOT reporting the illegal activities of their fellow officers.
 
2013-02-13 07:38:32 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.


It was reported by CNN around 9ish. So, we know the source isn't reliable.
 
2013-02-13 07:38:46 AM  

Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin


Yeah, screw due process and the rule of law.
 
2013-02-13 07:39:28 AM  

PoTBoT: I hope all of these pigs die in a fire themselves. They have no regard for due process and should be removed from civil service.


And what better way to support your high regard for due process and waiting for all of the evidence to come out than to hope for their death?
 
2013-02-13 07:42:38 AM  

Maul555: drjekel_mrhyde: tweek46420: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
[www.greatnorthernprepper.com image 500x376]
word is they found the body

It's clear here around :40 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186730/-BREAKING-Burn-that- f -ker-down-say-cops

I dont have any problem with them "burning the farker down"... Its the lying about it that is wrong and much much worse.


I actually don't disagree with this part....
 
2013-02-13 07:45:31 AM  

Bontesla: HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.

It was reported by CNN around 9ish. So, we know the source isn't reliable.




Who gives a flying fark if he was set on fire? If you dance you have to play the fiddler. He could had easily given himself up at anytime. LAPD had nothing to gain killing him. I'm tired of farkers thinking white cops are persecuting black men. That shiat is not happening
 
2013-02-13 07:47:50 AM  

tirob: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

I'd prefer waiting for an autopsy and a review of what all of the witnesses saw before relying on the assertion of a witness who hasn't been identified yet, and whose vantage point we don't know.


The witness was identified. Name, title, etc.
 
2013-02-13 07:49:02 AM  

Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin


That post was so edgy we all need tetanus shots now.
 
2013-02-13 07:51:17 AM  

PoTBoT: I hope all of these pigs die in a fire themselves. They have no regard for due process and should be removed from civil service.


Yeah, by dieing in a fire without their own due process... ok.
 
2013-02-13 07:51:40 AM  

tirob: BostonEMT: tirob: Four of the cops who beat the f**k out of Rodney King *were* put on trial.  They were acquitted.

True. true... and thus they are deemed "innocent" as far as the courtroom goes. Just as Dorner died an innocent man as far as the courtroom goes - not being given the opportunity to have a 'non-biased' jury decide his fate. I guess Dorner got the Equality he wanted in the end. He's just as innocent as they are.

I know of no evidence that Dorner ever *asked* a jury to decide his fate.  Which is the point I'm trying to make here.

way south: tirob: way south: tirob: Seems as if Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim is moot now, doesn't it?

Human remains found in the cabin:

http://news.msn.com/us/ex-cop-exchanges-fire-with-authorities?gt1=51 50 1

They should be forced to investigate it, and these shootings as well.

/If you let the cops write off trials and reviews just because the suspect died, You'll only end up with more dead suspects.

If by "these shootings" you mean the shootings by the cops of the women who were delivering newspapers, I agree with you absolutely.  The cops who did that ought to be fired and put on trial.  I wouldn't bother with the late Mr. Dorner's wrongful dismissal claim, though.  He had a chance to pursue a civil action against the LAPD; he didn't bother.

They thought it was worth reviewing when they were using it to smoke him out.
.


Yes they did.  But I think what they did was a tactic rather than a strategy.  And as I mentioned above, if Dorner himself didn't deem the matter worthy of putting before a theoretically impartial tribunal, why should we?


Because, even tho Dorner is dead, we the people still have an overbearing and under performing system with all of the consequences from this incident to deal with.  We need asatisfyingresolution more than LAPD or Dorner are (were) interested in giving.

I'm sure the party responsible for putting the state on lock down while destroying two trucks, a house, and damn near killing three people just wants this to be over. But its our city they shot up and our fellow citizens they shot at.
Just because the relationship between LAPD and Dorner has ended doesn't mean we aren't due a full start to finishexplanation for how this monster got made.
 
2013-02-13 07:52:20 AM  

BostonEMT: tirob:  I know of no evidence that Dorner ever *asked* a jury to decide his fate.  Which is the point I'm trying to make here.

I don't know of ANYONE - guilty or innocent - who ASKS a jury to decide their fate. The innocent don't want it because, well, they're innocent. The guilty don't want it because they got caught.

/your logic is puzzling, or at least the way you're expressing it.
//MY initial point is that Dorner got EXACTLY what the LAPD think he deserved. Their reckless shooting of innocent civilians and destruction of property only proves their complicity in running roughshod over the very laws they're supposed to enforce.
///My second point is that EVERY police Department in the country is the LAPD if only for the very fact that in every state, there are laws don't apply to the police (i.e. speeding, cell phones, etc...). The division has already been made between "us" and "them". Even the 'good' cops are guilty by association for NOT reporting the illegal activities of their fellow officers.


What I meant was that there is no evidence that Dorner ever asked a jury to decide the merits, if any, of his wrongful termination claim.  As for his guilt or innocence of four murders, that's different, of course.  Although we don't know yet whether it was the police or Dorner himself who saw to it that he would never face a jury on charges of having committed those crimes.  As for the LAPD, I doubt very much that anyone affiliated with it is too cut up about what happened last night.
 
2013-02-13 07:52:35 AM  
Yeah, it just caught fire by accident. Ill just wait around for the "evidence" that says they didn't. It's pretty convenient to get rid of the media because of "safety" when in fact their tactic is to absolve themselves by lack of evidence, and the only witnesses are part of the "brotherhood" of murderous corrupt pieces of sh*t. Perhaps the victims of attempted murder by the LAPD and other agencies will stand up for them. I don't think so.
 
2013-02-13 07:54:09 AM  
The sad thing is that someday people need to take a stand against police forces everywhere. The fact is that police are there to serve themselves and have an OATH to protect their brotherhood at all costs, over and above any oath they have to serve little people like us. That is not acceptable. The only way to keep the police in check is to create an even bigger force of people to do so. I am sure people from communities all over the world would happily volunteer. It's a viable, realistic idea, but not one the government would ever allow, no matter how much sense it makes.
 
2013-02-13 07:54:09 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Who gives a flying fark if he was set on fire? If you dance you have to play the fiddler. He could had easily given himself up at anytime. LAPD had nothing to gain killing him. I'm tired of farkers thinking white cops are persecuting black men. That shiat is not happening


I'm only going to give that a 1/10. Your Troll might get one or two bites, but is more likely to draw in only Counter-Trolls. No bueno.
 
2013-02-13 07:54:36 AM  
Here's a question - the cops have no idea who was actually in the cabin. The cops have not retrieved a body. The cops have not identified a body as belonging to Dorner.

Why is everyone saying it's Dorner?
 
2013-02-13 07:55:08 AM  

Bartleby the Scrivener: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

At one point, someone withthe US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed
back inside.

Did the person hear this from jenny's boyfriend's cousin's US Marshall friend at 31 flavors?


Lol no. The source was a Chief (something) Ellingston (recalling the name from memory).
 
2013-02-13 07:57:32 AM  

RexTalionis: Here's a question - the cops have no idea who was actually in the cabin. The cops have not retrieved a body. The cops have not identified a body as belonging to Dorner.

Why is everyone saying it's Dorner?


Sure, why not? It's not like the LAPD could cock this up any further.
 
2013-02-13 07:58:23 AM  
Damn, they fired him twice.
 
2013-02-13 07:58:32 AM  

MmmmBacon: Mid_mo_mad_man: Who gives a flying fark if he was set on fire? If you dance you have to play the fiddler. He could had easily given himself up at anytime. LAPD had nothing to gain killing him. I'm tired of farkers thinking white cops are persecuting black men. That shiat is not happening

I'm only going to give that a 1/10. Your Troll might get one or two bites, but is more likely to draw in only Counter-Trolls. No bueno.




Not even partially trolling. Read the whole thread. There's a lot of bleed hearts here
 
2013-02-13 07:58:46 AM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.


I recall that from one of the feeds last night, although not who said it. There was definitely a reference made to the man they say was Dorner (and that had not been confirmed at the time) trying to get out the back and that he was pushed or driven back into the cabin.

Mid_mo_mad_man: Who gives a flying fark if he was set on fire? If you dance you have to play the fiddler. He could had easily given himself up at anytime. LAPD had nothing to gain killing him. I'm tired of farkers thinking white cops are persecuting black men. That shiat is not happening


I give a flying fark. This is supposed to be a nation in which we have the rule of law, where everybody, no matter what they are accused of has the right to due process. The police in California made it abundantly clear that Chris Dorner was never going to be taken alive by shooting at anything even resembling a pickup truck with a person in it. Then they figured out a nice, painful, gruesome way to kill him and after they'd gotten all the media helicopters out of the way, went ahead and exacted their revenge on someone in a cabin that they had admitted on the radio wasn't 100% confirmed to even be Dorner, much less that he had been convicted and sentenced in a court of law.

If anything they proved that they are exactly the corrupt, murderous thugs Dorner said they were. To paraphrase Chris Rock, if Dorner did kill the people they accuse him of killing, I'm not going to go so far as to say that was justified ... but I certainly understand why he did it.
 
2013-02-13 07:59:11 AM  
They should have evacuated the whole area then dropped napalm.
 
2013-02-13 07:59:15 AM  

RexTalionis: Here's a question - the cops have no idea who was actually in the cabin. The cops have not retrieved a body. The cops have not identified a body as belonging to Dorner.

Why is everyone saying it's Dorner?


This is Big Bear, it's possible this was some dude who was already either on the lam for something, avoiding a felony warrant, etc. Nothing is confirmed at this point, there are plenty of bad people who might be willing to shoot at sheriffs then hole up in a cabin.
 
2013-02-13 07:59:59 AM  
way south:
I'm sure the party responsible for putting the state on lock down while destroying two trucks, a house, and damn near killing three people ...

No question in my mind that this part of the story should be gone over with a fine toothed comb, and that those responsible should have the book thrown at them.  I remain unconvinced that Dorner's claim itself should be the subject of any major inquiry, barring any evidence that the record of it was ever altered in any way.
 
2013-02-13 08:01:28 AM  
It tickles me when freepers cry for underage girl farker David Koresh.
 
2013-02-13 08:01:50 AM  

RexTalionis: Here's a question - the cops have no idea who was actually in the cabin. The cops have not retrieved a body. The cops have not identified a body as belonging to Dorner.

Why is everyone saying it's Dorner?


You must be new here.
 
2013-02-13 08:03:25 AM  
When 1) the first words in the article are "Andy Smith says that despite earlier reports, Christopher Dorner's body has not been recovered from a burned out cabin where he was reportedly holed up during a deadly shootout with authorities earlier today. "

and

2) the same guy in an earlier submitted fark article "We can't get into the cabin yet because it's still too hot. So we don't know if it's him"

The conclusion is we don't know if he's dead yet since there's no guarantee he was there
 
2013-02-13 08:04:09 AM  

heili skrimsli: HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.

I recall that from one of the feeds last night, although not who said it. There was definitely a reference made to the man they say was Dorner (and that had not been confirmed at the time) trying to get out the back and that he was pushed or driven back into the cabin.

Mid_mo_mad_man: Who gives a flying fark if he was set on fire? If you dance you have to play the fiddler. He could had easily given himself up at anytime. LAPD had nothing to gain killing him. I'm tired of farkers thinking white cops are persecuting black men. That shiat is not happening

I give a flying fark. This is supposed to be a nation in which we have the rule of law, where everybody, no matter what they are accused of has the right to due process. The police in California made it abundantly clear that Chris Dorner was never going to be taken alive by shooting at anything even resembling a pickup truck with a person in it. Then they figured out a nice, painful, gruesome way to kill him and after they'd gotten all the media helicopters out of the way, went ahead and exacted their revenge on someone in a cabin that they had admitted on the radio wasn't 100% confirmed to even be Dorner, much less that he had been convicted and sentenced in a court of law.

If anything they proved that they are exactly the corrupt, murderous thugs Dorner said they were. To paraphrase Chris Rock, if Dorner did kill the people they accuse him of killing, I ...




You are exactly what's wrong with the USA. The cops he shot Tuesday would have arrested him without a hitch if he wanted that. Just because he's black doesn't make him a victim
 
2013-02-13 08:06:55 AM  
My money says he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.  Eddie Murphy told me that black people don't die in fires.
 
2013-02-13 08:07:43 AM  
They knew he was wounded and had stopped fighting, and decided to burn him anyhow.  Right before they start the fire, they are confirming that they see his blood spattered on a wall inside.

I understand why they did it.. but kind of farked up.
 
2013-02-13 08:09:05 AM  

Jake Havechek: It tickles me when freepers cry for underage girl farker David Koresh.


if that is your standard for ridicule I'll wait while you attack the prophet of Islam.
 
2013-02-13 08:10:17 AM  
heili skrimsli: 

If anything they proved that they are exactly the corrupt, murderous thugs Dorner said they were. To paraphrase Chris Rock...

I know you wouldn't go so far as to say that killing Chris Rock was justified, but if someone were to kill him tomorrow, would you understand why he did it?
 
2013-02-13 08:10:43 AM  

C18H27NO3: styckx: What he did was wrong.. What the cops did to kill him was worse..

"All right Steve we're gonna go...uh...we're gonna forward with the plan with the...with the burner"

"Copy"

"Want it..uh...liked we talked about"

"Burners deployed and we have a fire"

"Copy seven burners deployed and we have a a fire"

I was just listening to the audio and came back here to comment on exactly those same 5 lines but you've done it.
Hearing them sure makes it sound like they were being a little nefarious in their intentions.


I'm far from a defender of the police, but from the recording it sounds like they were attempting to flush him out "the four side." Rather than escape the burning building, he shot himself. I'd would call it a shiatty tactic, but it didn't sound terribly nefarious to me.
 
2013-02-13 08:10:45 AM  

Jake Havechek: It tickles me when freepers cry for underage girl farker David Koresh.


The ATF is concerned with statutory rape?
 
2013-02-13 08:11:34 AM  
Mid_Mo_Mad_man

You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.
 
2013-02-13 08:12:49 AM  
No official confirmation, but I suppose it's fairly safe to assume those charred remains are his.  Whatever story he may have had to tell will be lost in the story of his jackass actions.  At least it would appear he's done now.
 
2013-02-13 08:14:18 AM  

The Muthaship: My money says he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.  Eddie Murphy told me that black people don't die in fires.




He did. I listened to the whole thing go down on police scanner... He was wounded and couldnt mount a fight anymore. The cops set the house on fire, and were waiting for him to run out so they could blast him. Instead, he shot himself in the head with a single gunshot. The house went up in flames, and they could hear his ammo cooking off.

He chose suicide over being burned.
 
2013-02-13 08:14:20 AM  

Ecobuckeye: I'm far from a defender of the police, but from the recording it sounds like they were attempting to flush him out "the four side." Rather than escape the burning building, he shot himself. I'd would call it a shiatty tactic, but it didn't sound terribly nefarious to me.


If only we had like a gas that would make you very uncomfortable, teary eyed and disoriented, and it would flush you out of confined spaces. If we did have that sort of thing I'm sure they'd have at least tried it before burning everything.
 
2013-02-13 08:14:28 AM  
Well done, subby.
 
2013-02-13 08:15:26 AM  

USP .45: If only we had like a gas that would make you very uncomfortable, teary eyed and disoriented, and it would flush you out of confined spaces. If we did have that sort of thing I'm sure they'd have at least tried it before burning everything.


Also, this gas would be a flammable aerosol.
 
2013-02-13 08:16:11 AM  

PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man

You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.




He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people
 
2013-02-13 08:16:38 AM  

Alonjar: He chose suicide over being burned.


Or shame.
 
2013-02-13 08:16:58 AM  

tirob: way south:
I'm sure the party responsible for putting the state on lock down while destroying two trucks, a house, and damn near killing three people ...

No question in my mind that this part of the story should be gone over with a fine toothed comb, and that those responsible should have the book thrown at them.  I remain unconvinced that Dorner's claim itself should be the subject of any major inquiry, barring any evidence that the record of it was ever altered in any way.


It shouldn't be gone over necessarily because of his claim, but because this is the start of the story.
The narrative currently reads "Disgruntled former employee goes on rampage, targets coworkers".

Question one is: "Why did he become disgruntled?".
Yes, reviewing his claims would be apart of answering that.
 
2013-02-13 08:17:20 AM  
This stinks to high heaven all the way around. They need to tear the LAPD apart and investigate it in it's entirety.

However, this man lost whatever high ground he had when he murdered Monica Quan for doing nothing more than being the daughter to one of the folk's he had a beef with.
 
2013-02-13 08:17:27 AM  

Hagbardr: USP .45: If only we had like a gas that would make you very uncomfortable, teary eyed and disoriented, and it would flush you out of confined spaces. If we did have that sort of thing I'm sure they'd have at least tried it before burning everything.

Also, this gas would be a flammable aerosol.


Ah, two birds with one stone then.
 
2013-02-13 08:17:43 AM  

Alonjar: He chose suicide over being burned.


Who wouldn't? I'd rather die quick than cook alive.
 
2013-02-13 08:17:48 AM  
Thankfully now that the manhunt is over the people of LA can get on with their lives without fear of harassment or violence from the LAPD.
 
2013-02-13 08:19:08 AM  
Does anybody have an article that confirms this business that the LAPD (why the fark were they even there, that's a good question) set the fire?  Difficulty:  NO infowars.  I mean an article from a credible news agency?
 
2013-02-13 08:19:10 AM  

USP .45: Ecobuckeye: I'm far from a defender of the police, but from the recording it sounds like they were attempting to flush him out "the four side." Rather than escape the burning building, he shot himself. I'd would call it a shiatty tactic, but it didn't sound terribly nefarious to me.

If only we had like a gas that would make you very uncomfortable, teary eyed and disoriented, and it would flush you out of confined spaces. If we did have that sort of thing I'm sure they'd have at least tried it before burning everything.


I agree, but they mentioned seeing an RPG. It's not much of a leap to suggest a guy with an RPG and knowledge of police tactics would have a gas mask, too. Who knows. I'm just trying to work through what happened reasonably. I still believe that, no matter the uniform, people are generally good and accidents happen.
 
2013-02-13 08:19:27 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: You are exactly what's wrong with the USA. The cops he shot Tuesday would have arrested him without a hitch if he wanted that. Just because he's black doesn't make him a victim


This has nothing to do with what color he is and everything to do with the fact that I still believe in a nation that exists under the rule of law in which every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt as judged by a jury of his or her peers.

I don't think that the police should have rules of engagement that are more permissive than those afforded to actual soldiers in combat as if the police are at war with the rest of the citizens. I think enacting a plan to burn a man alive is repugnant, cruel, unusual, and should be called murder, and I don't think that changes because of what that man is accused of doing.

That is not what is 'wrong' with America. There are places where such despotic and tyrannical actions are socially acceptable so long as the perpetrator of those actions wears a uniform, places like Somalia where there is no rule of law. Perhaps you should move to one of those societies more to your liking.
 
2013-02-13 08:19:45 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: No one forced him to murder four people


He could have just wrtten a book, instead.
 
2013-02-13 08:21:01 AM  

IronOcelot: This stinks to high heaven all the way around. They need to tear the LAPD apart and investigate it in it's entirety.

However, this man lost whatever high ground he had when he murdered Monica Quan for doing nothing more than being the daughter to one of the folk's he had a beef with.




If I'm read the comments right in this thread it's ok to kill if u disagree with your employers? Or is just the persecuted blacks in this country can do it with farks approval. I'm glad this monster is dead
 
2013-02-13 08:21:58 AM  

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Thankfully now that the manhunt is over the people of LA can get on with their lives without fear of harassment or violence from the LAPD.


Ha
 
2013-02-13 08:22:00 AM  

heili skrimsli: HindiDiscoMonster: Bontesla: tirob: phenn: Team Nemesis: Good job on killing that shiate bag.

/hope they made smores over that burning cabin

You're applauding murder, by the way.

Because without arrest, charges, conviction and punishment that is precisely what this is.

Depends on who killed Dorner and under what circumstances.  We don't know what happened yet.

At one point, someone with the US Marshals said Dorner tried exiting the back of the cabin but was pushed back inside.

if true, that is even more disturbing, and turns this into a confirmed execution.

I recall that from one of the feeds last night, although not who said it. There was definitely a reference made to the man they say was Dorner (and that had not been confirmed at the time) trying to get out the back and that he was pushed or driven back into the cabin.

Mid_mo_mad_man: Who gives a flying fark if he was set on fire? If you dance you have to play the fiddler. He could had easily given himself up at anytime. LAPD had nothing to gain killing him. I'm tired of farkers thinking white cops are persecuting black men. That shiat is not happening

I give a flying fark. This is supposed to be a nation in which we have the rule of law, where everybody, no matter what they are accused of has the right to due process. The police in California made it abundantly clear that Chris Dorner was never going to be taken alive by shooting at anything even resembling a pickup truck with a person in it. Then they figured out a nice, painful, gruesome way to kill him and after they'd gotten all the media helicopters out of the way, went ahead and exacted their revenge on someone in a cabin that they had admitted on the radio wasn't 100% confirmed to even be Dorner, much less that he had been convicted and sentenced in a court of law.

If anything they proved that they are exactly the corrupt, murderous thugs Dorner said they were. To paraphrase Chris Rock, if Dorner did kill the people they accuse him of killing, I'm not going to go so far as to say that was justified ... but I certainly understand why he did it.


Dorner made it abundantly clear that he wasn't going to be taken alive! He had no interest in due process or he would have chosen a different path and either surrendered (even after the fire started) or taken LAPD to court. He decided to take as many with him as he could .
 
2013-02-13 08:23:15 AM  

nekom: Does anybody have an article that confirms this business that the LAPD (why the fark were they even there, that's a good question) set the fire?  Difficulty:  NO infowars.  I mean an article from a credible news agency?


The scanner talk is pretty convincing.
 
2013-02-13 08:23:30 AM  
FTA: The home, ironically, is located near the Sheriff's outpost that was set up earlier this week as part of the search for him.

Dear writers, this is a coincidence, not ironic. Ironic would be if he was holed up IN the Sheriff's outpost.
 
2013-02-13 08:25:20 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man

You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people

Mid_mo_mad_man          Smartest Funniest   2013-02-13 08:16:11 AM   PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people


You just don't get it do you? Civil servants abide by the law, they represent the law, they are not above the law. Your thinking is what is wrong, and is the very thing that is wrong with agencies like the LAPD because that is what they believe too. They can do whatever they want, and stupid people like you are their advocates.

 
2013-02-13 08:26:17 AM  

heili skrimsli: Mid_mo_mad_man: You are exactly what's wrong with the USA. The cops he shot Tuesday would have arrested him without a hitch if he wanted that. Just because he's black doesn't make him a victim

This has nothing to do with what color he is and everything to do with the fact that I still believe in a nation that exists under the rule of law in which every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt as judged by a jury of his or her peers.

I don't think that the police should have rules of engagement that are more permissive than those afforded to actual soldiers in combat as if the police are at war with the rest of the citizens. I think enacting a plan to burn a man alive is repugnant, cruel, unusual, and should be called murder, and I don't think that changes because of what that man is accused of doing.

That is not what is 'wrong' with America. There are places where such despotic and tyrannical actions are socially acceptable so long as the perpetrator of those actions wears a uniform, places like Somalia where there is no rule of law. Perhaps you should move to one of those societies more to your liking.




He shot first Tuesday. He took the law into own hands. The cops did not violate his rights. And yes the outrage has every thing to do with his skin color. Blacks in the USA think everyone is holding them back. They are the only ones causing thier troubles.
 
2013-02-13 08:28:26 AM  

MNguy: nekom: Does anybody have an article that confirms this business that the LAPD (why the fark were they even there, that's a good question) set the fire?  Difficulty:  NO infowars.  I mean an article from a credible news agency?

The scanner talk is pretty convincing.


Yeah, but that's VERY prone to be taken out of context. One little snippet among the thousands of transmissions by hundreds of law enforcement personnel doesn't alone convince me. And if burners are in fact slang for tear gas, they may have meant that as in try to gas him out. I know it's early and the details are still coming in, I'm just trying not to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon prematurely.
 
2013-02-13 08:28:37 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Blacks in the USA think everyone is holding them back. They are the only ones causing thier troubles.


At some point you've got to stop and realize you are the only one in this thread who thinks this had anything to do with race.
 
2013-02-13 08:28:46 AM  

PoTBoT: Mid_mo_mad_man: PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man

You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people

Mid_mo_mad_man          Smartest Funniest   2013-02-13 08:16:11 AM   PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people

You just don't get it do you? Civil servants abide by the law, they represent the law, they are not above the law. Your thinking is what is wrong, and is the very thing that is wrong with agencies like the LAPD because that is what they believe too. They can do whatever they want, and stupid people like you are their advocates.


How many people would have been a fair number to have die in order to force him to surrender non-voluntarily?  The guy wanted death by cop, he was pretty clear on that, and he got it.  If he wanted a trial he had that right, and could of done so.  He didn't.
 
2013-02-13 08:28:52 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Blacks in the USA think everyone is holding them back. They are the only ones causing thier troubles.


You're from Missouri all right.
 
2013-02-13 08:29:27 AM  

PoTBoT: Mid_mo_mad_man: PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man

You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people

Mid_mo_mad_man          Smartest Funniest   2013-02-13 08:16:11 AM   PoTBoT: Mid_Mo_Mad_man You are what is wrong with America. Cops ARE NOT ABOVE THE LAW. He chose to die. They were forced to kill him. He not the law men are the villains here. No one forced him to murder four people

You just don't get it do you? Civil servants abide by the law, they represent the law, they are not above the law. Your thinking is what is wrong, and is the very thing that is wrong with agencies like the LAPD because that is what they believe too. They can do whatever they want, and stupid people like you are their advocates.




Who shot first Tuesday? Only he forced this
 
2013-02-13 08:29:33 AM  

dittybopper: BostonEMT: Bontesla: Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.

In unrelated news, family members state that LL Cool J has gone missing.

I heard he was going back to Cali.


I don't think so.
 
2013-02-13 08:29:33 AM  

Bathsalt: Dorner made it abundantly clear that he wasn't going to be taken alive! He had no interest in due process or he would have chosen a different path and either surrendered (even after the fire started) or taken LAPD to court. He decided to take as many with him as he could .


so drunk and aggressive suspects who clearly are not interested in due process should just be shot.
 
2013-02-13 08:30:27 AM  

nekom: MNguy: nekom: Does anybody have an article that confirms this business that the LAPD (why the fark were they even there, that's a good question) set the fire?  Difficulty:  NO infowars.  I mean an article from a credible news agency?

The scanner talk is pretty convincing.

Yeah, but that's VERY prone to be taken out of context. One little snippet among the thousands of transmissions by hundreds of law enforcement personnel doesn't alone convince me. And if burners are in fact slang for tear gas, they may have meant that as in try to gas him out. I know it's early and the details are still coming in, I'm just trying not to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon prematurely.


Look at the TF thread.  Between the context of what they said and hearing 'burn the mother farker' I don't think it is out of line to think they intended to burn it......
 
2013-02-13 08:31:36 AM  

USP .45: Bathsalt: Dorner made it abundantly clear that he wasn't going to be taken alive! He had no interest in due process or he would have chosen a different path and either surrendered (even after the fire started) or taken LAPD to court. He decided to take as many with him as he could .

so drunk and aggressive suspects who clearly are not interested in due process should just be shot.


If they are killing innocent people and can't be taken safely?  Hell yea
 
2013-02-13 08:34:54 AM  
This isn't going to end well for the cops. There is a reason we try and discourage them from doing street executions.
 
2013-02-13 08:35:03 AM  

SirVagTheTighty: USP .45: Bathsalt: Dorner made it abundantly clear that he wasn't going to be taken alive! He had no interest in due process or he would have chosen a different path and either surrendered (even after the fire started) or taken LAPD to court. He decided to take as many with him as he could .

so drunk and aggressive suspects who clearly are not interested in due process should just be shot.

If they are killing innocent people and can't be taken safely?  Hell yea


has a large knife and has locked himself in a car. so light the gas tank on fire right?
 
2013-02-13 08:36:13 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: heili skrimsli: Mid_mo_mad_man: You are exactly what's wrong with the USA. The cops he shot Tuesday would have arrested him without a hitch if he wanted that. Just because he's black doesn't make him a victim

This has nothing to do with what color he is and everything to do with the fact that I still believe in a nation that exists under the rule of law in which every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt as judged by a jury of his or her peers.

I don't think that the police should have rules of engagement that are more permissive than those afforded to actual soldiers in combat as if the police are at war with the rest of the citizens. I think enacting a plan to burn a man alive is repugnant, cruel, unusual, and should be called murder, and I don't think that changes because of what that man is accused of doing.

That is not what is 'wrong' with America. There are places where such despotic and tyrannical actions are socially acceptable so long as the perpetrator of those actions wears a uniform, places like Somalia where there is no rule of law. Perhaps you should move to one of those societies more to your liking.

He shot first Tuesday. He took the law into own hands. The cops did not violate his rights. And yes the outrage has every thing to do with his skin color. Blacks in the USA think everyone is holding them back. They are the only ones causing thier troubles.


Perhaps sometime you will be accused and sentenced by someone who is not by law able or qualified. No jury of your peers, just a few cops. I will still care and fight for your rights under the constitution, even if its someone as ignorant as you.
 
2013-02-13 08:36:40 AM  
nekom:
Yeah, but that's VERY prone to be taken out of context. One little snippet among the thousands of transmissions by hundreds of law enforcement personnel doesn't alone convince me. And if burners are in fact slang for tear gas, they may have meant that as in try to gas him out. I know it's early and the details are still coming in, I'm just trying not to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon prematurely.

The police, (I don't know if it was LAPD) intentionally started the fire.  Whether the motivation was to smoke him out or kill him, we'll probably never know for sure.
 
2013-02-13 08:39:03 AM  

KellyKellyKelly: dittybopper: BostonEMT: Bontesla: Also - was there official confirmation that Dorner was in that cabin before they set it on fire? As of last night - they believe there was a guy inside who looked like Dorner.

In unrelated news, family members state that LL Cool J has gone missing.

I heard he was going back to Cali.

I don't think so.


He was partying in LA with Brad Paisley last night. Seriously. Paisley tweeted a picture of them "rockin' out".
 
2013-02-13 08:40:37 AM  

MNguy: nekom:
Yeah, but that's VERY prone to be taken out of context. One little snippet among the thousands of transmissions by hundreds of law enforcement personnel doesn't alone convince me. And if burners are in fact slang for tear gas, they may have meant that as in try to gas him out. I know it's early and the details are still coming in, I'm just trying not to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon prematurely.

The police, (I don't know if it was LAPD) intentionally started the fire.  Whether the motivation was to smoke him out or kill him, we'll probably never know for sure.


If that is the case, I honestly can't say I blame them. He would have had the opportunity to come out and surrender. They had every reason to believe that he would open fire on anyone who came in, so why risk another cop's life so that this schmuck can "take one more with him"? I'm just not sure if it's quite `legal' or not, I'm no lawyer. But I can't say I blame them one bit.
 
2013-02-13 08:40:47 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Why is this trash considered a hero? Murdering people to make a statement is terrorism. He's no more a hero then the 9/11 hijackers. May he rot in hell and be raped by Satan.

/ LL Cool Jay should play him in the film


Kinda like the police just did?  Murdered a man to make the statement "you mess with us, there will be no trial, we'll just kill you"?
 
2013-02-13 08:41:36 AM  

spidermann: if those remains aren't Dorner the LAPD just got one more black eye instead of one more black guy


Why? LAPD wasn't involved in anything you saw on TV last night. It wasn't even in their county. They were available at a nearby airport to supplement or relieve San Bernadino County SWAT, but were never called upon.
 
2013-02-13 08:42:12 AM  

PoTBoT: Mid_mo_mad_man: heili skrimsli: Mid_mo_mad_man: You are exactly what's wrong with the USA. The cops he shot Tuesday would have arrested him without a hitch if he wanted that. Just because he's black doesn't make him a victim

This has nothing to do with what color he is and everything to do with the fact that I still believe in a nation that exists under the rule of law in which every person is presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt as judged by a jury of his or her peers.

I don't think that the police should have rules of engagement that are more permissive than those afforded to actual soldiers in combat as if the police are at war with the rest of the citizens. I think enacting a plan to burn a man alive is repugnant, cruel, unusual, and should be called murder, and I don't think that changes because of what that man is accused of doing.

That is not what is 'wrong' with America. There are places where such despotic and tyrannical actions are socially acceptable so long as the perpetrator of those actions wears a uniform, places like Somalia where there is no rule of law. Perhaps you should move to one of those societies more to your liking.

He shot first Tuesday. He took the law into own hands. The cops did not violate his rights. And yes the outrage has every thing to do with his skin color. Blacks in the USA think everyone is holding them back. They are the only ones causing thier troubles.

Perhaps sometime you will be accused and sentenced by someone who is not by law able or qualified. No jury of your peers, just a few cops. I will still care and fight for your rights under the constitution, even if its someone as ignorant as you.


I am sure the guy who killed multiple people for things that had nothing to do with them,
then fled and killed other police officers that weren't even members of the department he had a beef with,
then kidnapped two ladies who had fark all to do with any of this,
then attempted to kill a god damn fish and wild life officer,
then did kill a police officer from yet another jurisdiction he had no beef with,
then choose to kill himself rather than turn himself in really appreciates you support.

Keep fighting the good fight.
 
2013-02-13 08:42:23 AM  
Almost 30 years later, and it seems like another Gordon Kahl incident, complete with manhunt and the suspect gets to DIAF of suspicious origin.

/nothing ever changes
 
2013-02-13 08:42:30 AM  

The Southern Dandy: drjekel_mrhyde: tweek46420: The Shatner Incident: Does anyone think that law enforcement set the place on fire to kill him a la Waco?

/considering the state of LE, I don't doubt it.

they did....there is scanner audio that pretty much says burn the farker
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word is they found the body

It's clear here around :40 http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/12/1186730/-BREAKING-Burn-that- f -ker-down-say-cops

Of course, the LAPD ain't gonna pay out to anybody, so when they get sued for damages to the house, they'll deny this is them on the recording. Also, they won't pay the lady hostage the million dollar reward for her call to them.  Bet!


LAPD had nothing to do with it. San Bernadino County did.