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2013-02-13 03:17:48 AM

quatchi: Torture porn?

He could have made a bundle selling copies at the last Republican debates.

TV's Vinnie: "Investigating Detective Constable Kim Negus had told the Old Bailey in London that she had to view Luo's videos with the sound turned down to cut out the screams of the women.  "

[FAP.jpg]

Aren't you the guy who shows up on Pony threads calling everyone perverts?

Noted.


Screams, not whinnys. There's a difference.
 
2013-02-13 03:19:08 AM

DuncanMhor: illannoyin: Any farkers know British law? At what point does pron cross the line from acceptable to disgusting and extreme?

Involve animals or violence and it's pretty much open and shut.

/one guy was done for a porn clip with tony the tiger in it, but was found not guilty, since the judge had more than one dendrite.


Thats Grrrrrreat!
 
2013-02-13 03:39:28 AM

Fano: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Skyrmion: Jail for porn? Welcome to Obama's America.

America?  The Sun is NOT here.

Well ok not much.  Other than in people's caches.  Curse you page-grabbing eye candy sandwiched in with the tabloid weird.

Have to say when I heard extreme pron though I was thinking more like parkour whilst maintaining err... contact.  Maybe bungee boinking?  Riding a mountain bike down Everest while on fire and... I mean c'mon is has to be... (cuLinke Brawndo voice)

EXTREME!

You must mean THIS NSFW EXTREME asian video


That's amazing. If the price is jail then I pay it willingly.
 
2013-02-13 03:48:02 AM
Sen Luo? Never heard of him. If he's not a celebrity he's guilty.
 
2013-02-13 03:50:59 AM
Fiddle about, fiddle about.
 
2013-02-13 04:29:05 AM
Wait, just so we're clear here, he got arrested because his pr0n depicted rape, right? In that case, it should be called "non-consensual" pornography, and be given its own category, much in the same way that kiddie porn is given its own category and separated away from legal stuff.  We shouldn't allow such arbitrary definitions like "extreme" to define what's legal and illegal. One person's smutty pleasure video is another person's "extreme perversion".

That being said, if the women in the video really were being raped, then I'm all in favour of throwing the book at the guy for disseminating video of a crime. I'm just saying that categorization in the law should be more specific. Having pr0n that just seems "extreme" in and of itself shouldn't be a crime.
 
2013-02-13 04:30:58 AM

Skyrmion: Fark Rye For Many Whores: poot_rootbeer: "They featured oriental women but it is impossible to say how they came to be used for these images."

"...seeing as the term 'Oriental' fell out of favour two decades before it was possible to store pornographic moving images on a computer."

I dare you to find a better word, and keep in mind Asian isn't up for consideration:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 318x450][farm4.staticflickr.com image 366x500]

The word is "Asian".

And obviously, "Asian" used as a racial descriptor is not a 1 to 1 match encompassing all people from the continent that goes by that name.

Which shouldn't come as a big shock. I mean, I'm not exactly from the Caucasus region.


As I understand it 'Asian' in the UK refers to people of Indian and Southeast Asian descent. Oriental refers Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Thais etc. Maybe a UK Farker could clarify things.
 
Xai
2013-02-13 04:31:24 AM
I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.
 
2013-02-13 04:34:10 AM

sudo give me more cowbell: Wait, just so we're clear here, he got arrested because his pr0n depicted rape, right? In that case, it should be called "non-consensual" pornography, and be given its own category, much in the same way that kiddie porn is given its own category and separated away from legal stuff.  We shouldn't allow such arbitrary definitions like "extreme" to define what's legal and illegal. One person's smutty pleasure video is another person's "extreme perversion".

That being said, if the women in the video really were being raped, then I'm all in favour of throwing the book at the guy for disseminating video of a crime. I'm just saying that categorization in the law should be more specific. Having pr0n that just seems "extreme" in and of itself shouldn't be a crime.


Knowing the UK it probably depicted extreme BDSM and maybe scat play or something like that. I'm fairly sure most BDSM is illegal in the UK, even between consenting adults. Totally ridiculous of course, if someone gets off on getting whipped while being forcefed poo more power to them, I say.
 
2013-02-13 05:13:46 AM

platedlizard: Skyrmion: Fark Rye For Many Whores: poot_rootbeer: "They featured oriental women but it is impossible to say how they came to be used for these images."

"...seeing as the term 'Oriental' fell out of favour two decades before it was possible to store pornographic moving images on a computer."

I dare you to find a better word, and keep in mind Asian isn't up for consideration:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 318x450][farm4.staticflickr.com image 366x500]

The word is "Asian".

And obviously, "Asian" used as a racial descriptor is not a 1 to 1 match encompassing all people from the continent that goes by that name.

Which shouldn't come as a big shock. I mean, I'm not exactly from the Caucasus region.

As I understand it 'Asian' in the UK refers to people of Indian and Southeast Asian descent. Oriental refers Chinese, Japanese, Koreans, Thais etc. Maybe a UK Farker could clarify things.


That is generally the case, but nobody would bat an eyelid if you used "Asian" instead of "Oriental" to describe someone from the Orient. We do use both, but as you say "Asian" is usually referring to those from the subcontinent. It probably won't be too long before that way becomes the standard and people do start going "huh?" when you call a Japanese person Asian. People are silly like that.
 
2013-02-13 05:38:33 AM

Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.


the bottom line seems to be they were investigating his computer / him for other crimes and they found some pron. they are using anything they can as reason to debase, humiliate and imprison him. he had nothing to do with this pron besides downloading it onto his HDD just like millions of other people.
 
2013-02-13 05:45:22 AM
If collecting porn is a crime, then I should be on death row.
 
2013-02-13 05:55:22 AM
This is chewbacca:
1den.ru

It makes no sense that I am talking about Chewbacca right now.

/hot from cold russia.
 
2013-02-13 06:17:41 AM

Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.


In the UK, it doesn't matter if the government is nose-in-the-air snooty conservatives, or rabid labour-party union-loving socialists, they all share this love of censorship and government snooping once they plonk their fat asses in those chairs in parliament.  And it's pretty much relentless; even if a law is quashed or a bill dies (usually due to fear of not being re-elected), there are plenty of other waiting in the wings.

1984? basically as user manual for UK politicians, That is the true obscenity,
 
2013-02-13 06:25:39 AM
Extreme porn is a gateway far to sicker things.
 
2013-02-13 06:26:35 AM

sexorcisst: Extreme porn is a gateway far to sicker things.


errr... *fap

/fail
 
2013-02-13 06:32:09 AM

Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.


I think consent is the issue here. The porn is described in other articles as being a mix of bestiality (no consent possible) and what is being described as "torture porn" involving women being pierced by needles and having hot wax dripped which may well be consensual but then again may not be.
 
Xai
2013-02-13 06:47:41 AM

quatchi: Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.

I think consent is the issue here. The porn is described in other articles as being a mix of bestiality (no consent possible) and what is being described as "torture porn" involving women being pierced by needles and having hot wax dripped which may well be consensual but then again may not be.


How can bestiality with women ever be non-consensual? I mean the animal is obviously consenting and the woman can be too.

'Torture porn' is consensual with many people, so you can't jump to conclusions.
 
Xai
2013-02-13 06:57:40 AM

sexorcisst: Extreme porn is a gateway far to sicker things.


You could say that eating is a gateway to obesity, so we should ban eating.

If you set a line of unacceptable behaviour, you should not punish lesser behaviour just because it gets close to that line.

Otherwise you could also say that assault is a gateway to murder so all assault convictions should be treated with the same penalty as murder.
 
2013-02-13 07:04:24 AM

Xai: How can bestiality with women ever be non-consensual? I mean the animal is obviously consenting and the woman can be too.


Animals cannot consent (legally speaking)
 
Xai
2013-02-13 07:10:32 AM

DuncanMhor: Xai: How can bestiality with women ever be non-consensual? I mean the animal is obviously consenting and the woman can be too.

Animals cannot consent (legally speaking)


I still don't think watching a (legally unable to consent) animal that is happily humping some woman on videos you got off the internet should warrant a higher sentence than physically raping someone.

/Just an opinion though.
 
2013-02-13 07:15:53 AM

Xai: I still don't think watching a (legally unable to consent) animal that is happily humping some woman on videos you got off the internet should warrant a higher sentence than physically raping someone.


I agree with you. The extreme porn laws in the UK are absurd on their face, unfortunately we have had some very anti-porn home secretaries who would have loved nothing more than outlawing it completely. This was intended as the thin edge of the wedge.
 
Xai
2013-02-13 07:22:12 AM

DuncanMhor: Xai: I still don't think watching a (legally unable to consent) animal that is happily humping some woman on videos you got off the internet should warrant a higher sentence than physically raping someone.

I agree with you. The extreme porn laws in the UK are absurd on their face, unfortunately we have had some very anti-porn home secretaries who would have loved nothing more than outlawing it completely. This was intended as the thin edge of the wedge.


I agree, researching this further has left me even more shocked as in 2012 there was a man brought into court as police had discovered pornographic images as attachments on emails on his hotmail account. I mean seriously - receiving porn spam is a crime?
 
2013-02-13 07:27:44 AM

sudo give me more cowbell: Wait, just so we're clear here, he got arrested because his pr0n depicted rape, right? In that case, it should be called "non-consensual" pornography, and be given its own category, much in the same way that kiddie porn is given its own category and separated away from legal stuff.  We shouldn't allow such arbitrary definitions like "extreme" to define what's legal and illegal. One person's smutty pleasure video is another person's "extreme perversion".

That being said, if the women in the video really were being raped, then I'm all in favour of throwing the book at the guy for disseminating video of a crime. I'm just saying that categorization in the law should be more specific. Having pr0n that just seems "extreme" in and of itself shouldn't be a crime.


There is a big market in asia for 'rape' porn. Usualy some school girl is walking down the street, when a van stops and grabs her and they take her to a warehouse and throw her on a dirty matress while they gang bang her socks offs. Literally. They don't stop until one of those thigh high schoolgirl socks go flying off. Starts off slow with ripping off the clothes while she claims she doesn't want it, there is usualy some half-time bukkake, then they make her get on top, and they usualy finish with arabian goggles, or an inverted pole drop. Afterwards they kick her back out onto the street with one sock and a ripped shirt. Sometimes there is a bonus feature where she doesn't make it to the bus stop before some people see she's naked and 'rape' her again.

Or so I've heard.
 
2013-02-13 07:40:17 AM

illannoyin: Inaditch: You can go to jail for disgusting porn?

Oh shiat...

I'm so glad I have no pron whatsoever on any of my computers at all.

Any farkers know British law? At what point does pron cross the line from acceptable to disgusting and extreme?


Most likely, this appears to be video of women being raped, possibly simulated. It's stuff that probably would be illegal in the US, too.
 
2013-02-13 07:50:52 AM
Xai: quatchi: Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.

I think consent is the issue here. The porn is described in other articles as being a mix of bestiality (no consent possible) and what is being described as "torture porn" involving women being pierced by needles and having hot wax dripped which may well be consensual but then again may not be.


How can bestiality with women ever be non-consensual? I mean the animal is obviously consenting and the woman can be too.


Animals can't legally consent.

'Torture porn' is consensual with many people, so you can't jump to conclusions.

What part of "which may well be consensual but then again may not be" is me jumping to conclusions?
 
2013-02-13 07:57:35 AM
illannoyin:
I'm so glad I have no pron whatsoever on any of my computers at all.

Your "cloud" must be a sticky, sticky place...
 
2013-02-13 07:58:52 AM

platedlizard: Knowing the UK it probably depicted extreme BDSM and maybe scat play or something like that. I'm fairly sure most BDSM is illegal in the UK, even between consenting adults. Totally ridiculous of course, if someone gets off on getting whipped while being forcefed poo more power to them, I say.


The House of Lords wouldn't function without a bit of BDSM to keep them all ticking over.
 
Xai
2013-02-13 08:02:04 AM

quatchi: Xai: quatchi: Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.

I think consent is the issue here. The porn is described in other articles as being a mix of bestiality (no consent possible) and what is being described as "torture porn" involving women being pierced by needles and having hot wax dripped which may well be consensual but then again may not be.

How can bestiality with women ever be non-consensual? I mean the animal is obviously consenting and the woman can be too.

Animals can't legally consent.

'Torture porn' is consensual with many people, so you can't jump to conclusions.

What part of "which may well be consensual but then again may not be" is me jumping to conclusions?


Sorry, when i said 'you' i meant 'the people in charge of applying law' - a common colloquialism. So please read that sentence as 'Torture porn' is consensual with many people, so [people deciding if it is legal or not] can't jump to conclusions.

as for the animals bit, I still don't think watching a (legally unable to consent) animal that is happily humping some woman on videos you got off the internet should warrant a higher sentence than physically raping someone.
 
2013-02-13 08:31:52 AM

DuncanMhor: illannoyin: Any farkers know British law? At what point does pron cross the line from acceptable to disgusting and extreme?

Involve animals or violence and it's pretty much open and shut.

/one guy was done for a porn clip with tony the tiger in it, but was found not guilty, since the judge had more than one dendrite.


So what you're saying is that if we can have all the furries and bronies deported to the UK we can finally have them put away?
 
2013-02-13 08:34:38 AM

StrangeQ: So what you're saying is that if we can have all the furries and bronies deported to the UK we can finally have them put away?


Please don't do that. This is a weird enough island as it is
 
2013-02-13 08:43:37 AM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: poot_rootbeer: "They featured oriental women but it is impossible to say how they came to be used for these images."

"...seeing as the term 'Oriental' fell out of favour two decades before it was possible to store pornographic moving images on a computer."

I dare you to find a better word, and keep in mind Asian isn't up for consideration:
[1.bp.blogspot.com image 318x450][farm4.staticflickr.com image 366x500]


Newsflash:  Asian doesn't mean 'slitty-eyed' (to quote Prince Phillip).
 
2013-02-13 08:46:27 AM

DuncanMhor: illannoyin: Any farkers know British law? At what point does pron cross the line from acceptable to disgusting and extreme?

Involve animals or violence and it's pretty much open and shut.


Except that the line is extremely blurred, since BDSM involves a ton of consensual violence, some of which may or may not be illegal depending on however the judges decide to apply the law.
 
2013-02-13 08:55:05 AM
Don't try to put a legitimate face on your prurience, Luo.
 
2013-02-13 09:16:15 AM

quatchi: Xai: quatchi: Xai: I find it very disturbing that this guy faces 3 years in jail for having vidoes of women consensually performing extreme sex acts when rapists get 15 months. UK law is wrong.

I think consent is the issue here. The porn is described in other articles as being a mix of bestiality (no consent possible) and what is being described as "torture porn" involving women being pierced by needles and having hot wax dripped which may well be consensual but then again may not be.

How can bestiality with women ever be non-consensual? I mean the animal is obviously consenting and the woman can be too.

Animals can't legally consent.

'Torture porn' is consensual with many people, so you can't jump to conclusions.

What part of "which may well be consensual but then again may not be" is me jumping to conclusions?


yourseosucks.com
 
2013-02-13 09:34:39 AM
Came for the Max Hardcore reference, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-02-13 09:43:25 AM

Yuri Futanari: Inaditch: You can go to jail for disgusting porn?

Oh shiat...

...

I gotta...um...delete some stuff.


i758.photobucket.comi758.photobucket.com

/BRB
 
2013-02-13 10:11:34 AM

ybishop: [upload.wikimedia.org image 356x475]



How much of a piece of shiat do you have to be that even your own peers in your industry can't stand you...
 
2013-02-13 10:26:30 AM
I read that as "disgusting extreme use porn".
 
2013-02-13 10:27:25 AM

Fano: Yogimus: illannoyin: Inaditch: You can go to jail for disgusting porn?

Oh shiat...

I'm so glad I have no pron whatsoever on any of my computers at all.

Any farkers know British law? At what point does pron cross the line from acceptable to disgusting and extreme?

And can you provide links to examples?

Redtube link to extreme asian porn NSFW, obviously


I'm bookmarking this thread for after-work research.
 
2013-02-13 10:49:42 AM

Fano: FTA:

"Investigating Detective Constable Kim Negus had told the Old Bailey in London that she had to view Luo's videos with the sound turned down to cut out the screams of the women."

Oh. So she watched your average Japanese porn video, replacing the word "screams" with "whiimpering."


Was the soundtrack dubbed like all the phony moans and gasps I recall from porn before I started turning the sound off?
 
2013-02-13 11:00:50 AM
Fano:

Redtube

So all those well-hung "shemales" sticking it in gay studs and straight chicks and then ejaculating "money shots," they're really women?

As a gay man of my acquaintance says, "That's not a chick with a dick, it's a guy with fake tits."

By the way, since when did "exotic" become a synonym for "non-white?"
 
2013-02-13 11:20:45 AM

The One True TheDavid: Fano:

Redtube

So all those well-hung "shemales" sticking it in gay studs and straight chicks and then ejaculating "money shots," they're really women?

As a gay man of my acquaintance says, "That's not a chick with a dick, it's a guy with fake tits."


I've heard often times they're pre-op transexuals on hormone therapy before their tree gets cut down.  Some just stay in the pron instead of continuing with their plan because the money is good

By the way, since when did "exotic" become a synonym for "non-white?"

When white people started thinking they were somehow the standard for normal.
 
2013-02-13 11:23:03 AM

epoc_tnac: Except that the line is extremely blurred, since BDSM involves a ton of consensual violence, some of which may or may not be illegal depending on however the judges decide to apply the law.


It's a terrible law, and leaves the prosecution for "extreme" porn up to the Crown Prosecutor. Lack of knowledge of the law should be a defence when nobodycan legitimately be expected to know what is and isn't illegal.

The Register covered these laws (There's one for England & Wales, another for Scotland) in some detail, though it can best be summed up as WTF?
 
2013-02-13 11:24:21 AM

Deman: When white people started thinking they were somehow the standard for normal.


I have an excuse. I grew up in the highlands. White people look dark to me, we're normally a shade of pale blue

/deeper blue with the woad, obviously
 
2013-02-13 11:47:32 AM

Deman: The One True TheDavid: Fano:

Redtube

So all those well-hung "shemales" sticking it in gay studs and straight chicks and then ejaculating "money shots," they're really women?

As a gay man of my acquaintance says, "That's not a chick with a dick, it's a guy with fake tits."

I've heard often times they're pre-op transexuals on hormone therapy before their tree gets cut down.  Some just stay in the pron instead of continuing with their plan because the money is good</i>


But I've been made to understand that the whole point of FTM TSes is that those things don't belong there, that they need to have the Outside match the Inside even to the occasional extent of sawing it off with a steak knife. That if we even suggest that "corrective" surgery  might be a mistake we're oppressing them so bad they'll kill themselves right and left.

Now you're telling me that some of these people with bigger fake tits than LaToya Jackson and real cocks that would put John Holmes in the shade get diverted from their sacred quest by mere percuniary considerations? My my. Now I'm wondering whether such pornstars are more crazy than I think or just crazy like a fox. Maybe the helping professionals should require "chopping down the tree" before the silicone and hormone treatments, to separate the wheat from the tares so to speak. After all, we can't have mere prostitutes sullying the reputation of the sincerely afflicted: it's making a mockery of their unique human worth!
 
2013-02-13 12:53:59 PM

The One True TheDavid: By the way, since when did "exotic" become a synonym for "non-white?"


1500 B.C.
 
2013-02-13 02:23:21 PM
Terabytes of porn would be more realistic.
 
2013-02-13 02:44:11 PM

The One True TheDavid: So all those well-hung "shemales" sticking it in gay studs and straight chicks and then ejaculating "money shots," they're really women?

As a gay man of my acquaintance says, "That's not a chick with a dick, it's a guy with fake tits."

By the way, since when did "exotic" become a synonym for "non-white?"


Dude this isn't even a trans-thread and you're already in here with that shiat?  Go be a bigot somewhere else.
 
2013-02-13 04:47:54 PM
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