hb0mb: For me, the problem is that there aren't any new games that I want to play. I love nintendo, but how many more times can I play virtually the same mario game? Even the last Zelda was supremely disappointing.
YodaBlues: But you won't see an indie team putting out a triple-a game in the scope and scale of CoD or Halo, instead of you get great games like Limbo or Mark of the Ninja. But they aren't comparable.
YodaBlues: Show me the indie dev who can produce a game with the graphical quality, programming, network, and audio complexity of Battlefield 2. Indie's don't make games like that cause it would take them forever.
Rincewind53: At $60, games are actually below what they should be if the costs had risen with inflation.
manimal2878: And the cost of producing an actual video game has not skyrocketed.
Rincewind53: This is a great time to mention my "Entertainment Value Calculator" when figuring out whether to buy a video game. Basically, figuring that these days, the average cost of a movie is $12, and provides around 2 hours of entertainment
Snotnose: At $60 they cost too much. And if you buy a game used you don't get all the content unless you pay more $$$ to the company.Fark that, at $60 new I expect to be able to resell my game and let the buyer get full value from it.
Tyrosine: I'm curious: What types of games do you find better on the console?
Gordon Bennett: It's strange to me to hear about the video game crash in 1983-1984, because that's the time I remember gaming being massive. Everyone had a Commodore or a Spectrum or something, there were loads of games out and they kept getting better and better, not to mention cheaper at the bottom end thanks to Mastertronic.
Antimatter: Except that last five minutes made the rest of it utterly pointless.
whizbangthedirtfarmer: ...or maybe sales are dropping because there haven't been any decent quality games out there. Other than putting out the prettiest, most vapid FPSs, most game companies are mailing it in. I remember the days when Witcher 2, Dark Souls, Skyrim, and Kingdom of Amalur all came out within a few months of one another. Now? When I look at the new releases, I see NOTHING I am interested in until NEXT JANUARY (excepting, possibly, Dark Moon for my son).
Rincewind53: Snotnose: At $60 they cost too much. And if you buy a game used you don't get all the content unless you pay more $$$ to the company.Fark that, at $60 new I expect to be able to resell my game and let the buyer get full value from it.At $60, games are actually below what they should be if the costs had risen with inflation. 15 years ago, games were $50. If they'd kept up with inflation, they should be $71 now. And some games were priced at $50 back in 1990, where it would be $87 in modern money.That you think video games are more expensive today reflects a lack of understanding of inflation. Not only that, but thecostof production of video games has skyrocketed since the old days, so the video game companies would be justified in raising prices anyway. Which they haven't, because in inflation-adjusted dollars, video games are cheaper now than ever.
YodaBlues: I have at least 130 hours in Borderlands 2 and still playing, over 100 in Skyrim, too many hours to count in games like Left 4 Dead 1/2 and BF3. Those are all games I have no problem paying $60 for, I definitely got my money's worth.
Gwendolyn: Personally I'm busy finishing up my degree and waiting for Elder Scrolls Online. The current crop of MMORPGs kinda suck.
YodaBlues: Actually it has. Games are far more complex than they used to and take longer to develop triple-a titles.
Declines in console and physical games.Yup. Most likely culprits?
RexTalionis: Either that or we are at the end of this console generation and everyone is waiting for the next console release.
State_College_Arsonist: Well, as a PC player, I generally don't buy titles at launch unless it's something I really want. Otherwise, I wait a while for the price to drop, especially if the game is available on Steam and is likely to be discounted during the summer and winter sales.
Mike_LowELL: God, I feel like crap for writing that all out. I already know how this thread is going to go.
Sgt Otter: feeling they got burned on Diablo III and Knights of the Old Republic. Which should have been two of the biggest releases of the decade.
Mike_LowELL: People don't want to pay sixty dollars for the software
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