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2013-02-12 11:40:00 PM
I'd fark the smart right out of her.

/if she was legal
 
2013-02-12 11:41:51 PM
"That puts the teenager - who loves fake tanning, manicures and partying - among the most intelligent one per cent of people on the planet."

No.  It puts her in the top x% of people who took that particular IQ test.
 
2013-02-12 11:44:00 PM

ZAZ: An IQ of 160 is what, 4 standard deviations above the mean? That means that there are literally 10s of millions of people who have been smarter than Einstein.

IQ doesn't have to be normally distributed. Chebyshev's inequality says no more than 1/16 of people can have IQs more than 4 standard deviations away from the mean (total of both directions) so there could be hundreds of millions of people as IQ-y as her. Or none. None. Then the question arises, would you put up with her personality to sleep with the moderately cute smartest girl in the world?

But they can't calibrate the test to be normal so far away from the mean, so as already noted this just means she's good at IQ tests.


And has pointy knees?
 
2013-02-12 11:47:50 PM

Rufus Lee King: I hope you folks realize that IQ tests are culturally biased. One might even call them racist.


Well yeah, they tend to be biased against stupid cultures.  What's your point?
 
2013-02-12 11:48:03 PM

thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?


Only if it's under 100.
 
2013-02-12 11:50:12 PM

Fano: Rufus Lee King: thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?

I don't think so, no.
Pocket Ninja:
"Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads, there are certain standards and procedures that you need to follow lest people think you're some sort of insufferable braggart. First of all, you need to begin your IQ statement with some sort of declaimer explaining that you don't really care about your IQ. Something like, "I'm not really sure that it means all that much," or "I've never really placed much stock in this, but," or something like that. You could also go a slightly different path, acknowledging that your IQ is perhaps not quite as high as that of others, but that you were hung over/sick/distracted/bored when you took the test and so almost certainly didn't score as high as you otherwise might. Be careful to not overplay this hand, especially if others have already used something similar.

When you get to the actual number, it's generally best to express it as a range. Like, saying "I scored a 147" would possibly be impressive, except that, like in the Price is Right when some asshat comes in on the initial bid and goes one dollar over your offer and wins as a result, it's too easy to top. So, keeping it somewhat vague (I scored in the 140s-150s range, but the administrator said there were some irregularities that might have meant I actually scored much higher, etc.) works to your advantage. It's also a good idea to hang back in the thread a bit, wait to see if there some general field of scores being posted, and remain within striking distance of that so that you don't sound too out there. For example, if everyone is placing themselves in the 150-160 range, you might come in the upper 160s. Don't blow the field by more than a few points, though; you're likely to find yourself a target.

Self-hobbling is another great technique to make yourself seem more realistic whe ...


As usual, Pocket Ninja is right on the money.
 
2013-02-12 11:53:05 PM

FizixJunkee: Wait.  Is a 161 IQ a big deal?  Perhaps it's because I'm surrounded by nerds, but 161 isn't all that impressive.


Every 15 points represents one standard deviation from the median.  Being 4 standard deviations above the median puts you in some very rarified territory.

For your edification, that IQ test you took on the interwebs isn't at all accurate.  I tend to score 160 to 180 on those online tests.  On the real tests I scored quite a bit lower.
 
2013-02-12 11:54:32 PM
Lauren is now aiming to take A-Levels in art, physics and maths after her GCSEs and would love to study architecture at Cambridge University.


She'll never work harder for shiat money.  Save the $200k and just become a real estate agent - they get the same 6% we do, and they get it every time a building flips.
 
2013-02-12 11:56:25 PM

Mr. Eugenides: FizixJunkee: Wait.  Is a 161 IQ a big deal?  Perhaps it's because I'm surrounded by nerds, but 161 isn't all that impressive.

Every 15 points represents one standard deviation from the median.  Being 4 standard deviations above the median puts you in some very rarified territory.

For your edification, that IQ test you took on the interwebs isn't at all accurate.


Which online IQ test that I [allegedly] took are you referring to?
 
2013-02-12 11:58:46 PM

thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?


Why don't you try it and let us know?

Include the confidence interval, the confidence level, the name and version or edition of the instrument used, the date of the assessment, your age at the time, and the name and credentials of the professional who performed the assessment. If applicable, include any subscores.

/You'll still sound like a tool, but at least you'll increase your odds of being believed.
//12+ years of Fark IQ threads, still haven't seen a legitimate score, and I'm pretty sure more than a few of y'all have been professionally assessed, if you know what I'm sayin'
 
2013-02-13 12:04:09 AM

KStDrew: tenpoundsofcheese: "bigger IQ" subby?
I think you mean "higher IQ"

Talking about bigger IQ: wait until you see its girth!


Women don't really care about bigger, higher, harder, length, or girth.
What they do care about is consent.
 
2013-02-13 12:04:22 AM

Jclark666: thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?

Why don't you try it and let us know?

Include the confidence interval, the confidence level, the name and version or edition of the instrument used, the date of the assessment, your age at the time, and the name and credentials of the professional who performed the assessment. If applicable, include any subscores.

/You'll still sound like a tool, but at least you'll increase your odds of being believed.
//12+ years of Fark IQ threads, still haven't seen a legitimate score, and I'm pretty sure more than a few of y'all have been professionally assessed, if you know what I'm sayin'


My professionall assessor told me if I were any crazier, I'd have a new white coat.

/kidding.

//mostly
 
2013-02-13 12:05:29 AM

Jclark666: thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?

Why don't you try it and let us know?

Include the confidence interval, the confidence level, the name and version or edition of the instrument used, the date of the assessment, your age at the time, and the name and credentials of the professional who performed the assessment. If applicable, include any subscores.

/You'll still sound like a tool, but at least you'll increase your odds of being believed.
//12+ years of Fark IQ threads, still haven't seen a legitimate score, and I'm pretty sure more than a few of y'all have been professionally assessed, if you know what I'm sayin'


I was told to wear a helmet the next time I come back to test.  I think that's a good sign that I'm in the top few %.  I've been tested a bunch and they never tell anyone else that!
 
2013-02-13 12:05:37 AM
I heard this girl likes TOWIE.
 
2013-02-13 12:05:43 AM
But remember folks...

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-02-13 12:08:22 AM

Mr. Eugenides: Rufus Lee King: I hope you folks realize that IQ tests are culturally biased. One might even call them racist.

Well yeah, they tend to be biased against stupid cultures.  What's your point?


I took University administered tests from age 4 to 32 every 4 years as part of a comparative study on the development of children that were raised by biological parents, single parents, adopted, etc., etc. The tests each time were surprisingly non-biased, either culturally or linguistically. They also took 2 eight-hour days to complete each time.
 
m00
2013-02-13 12:10:57 AM

chaosweaver: CSB time, now...

I went to the MN state fair a couple years ago with my previous girlfriend, and we found the Mensa booth. Girlfriend was very gung ho about trying to join, and sat down right then and there, trying to figure out the tests they had set up.

Being bored out of my skull for the next fifteen minutes, mostly due to the fact that the only booths nearby were for churches and private colleges, I decided to take a look at them, myself. I grabbed the nearest one and completed it in a matter of seconds. I then reset it and did it in a different way.

The person watching the booth was staring at me by the time I looked up after the 7th time completing the little test. When his brain finally re-engaged, he asked me if I would come in and take the official test. I politely declined, and we moved on.

Before anyone calls me a pretentious ass for this story, I did not decline because I felt I was better than them, or for any other, equally douche-tastic reason. My brain seems to be built for creative problem solving, and general creativity. One of the reasons I write and love to cook. At any given time, I have 7 ideas for short stories in my head. However, when it comes to showing my work, or even describing a recipe, I'm completely at a loss. This of course makes writing and teaching a little difficult at times. That alone makes me feel that I'm not Mensa material.

That, and people would likely expect more from me if I did join, and I'm okay with taking it easy now that I'm out of the Military.

/end CSB


Pocket Ninja clearly has a higher IQ than you.
 
2013-02-13 12:12:02 AM
Well, cool for her. But she should realize that IQ doesn't identify how intelligent one is in specific areas of study. The article mentions physics, but I don't know if they just looked at her school schedule or if that's a passion of hers. If it's a passion of hers, it would be pretty rad to see someone like her just have a theoretical physics rap-battle with someone like Hawking. But really, for example, I have some stupid high IQ and I had to take college algebra over a few times just to get a passing grade. I downright suck at math. So she shouldn't let that number go to her head and automatically think that she is smarter than everyone else in every area of academia.
 
2013-02-13 12:12:58 AM
ESSEX GIRLS ARE WELL-GROOMED
 
2013-02-13 12:13:11 AM

emersonbiggins: Save the $200k


From their undergrad webpage:

Like most English universities, Cambridge will be charging new UK and EU students tuition fee of £9,000 per year for all undergraduate courses in 2012-13.

Rather than pay your tuition fees up front or while studying at the University, you can take out a government student loan for tuition, and defer payment until you have left Cambridge and are earning a minimum salary (currently £21,000 per year).


It used to be 3000 pounds, tops.

Unlike in the U.S., other countries' education systems actually make sense.
 
m00
2013-02-13 12:15:41 AM
Can one of the high-IQ geniuses on this thread give me a quantitative definition of "Intelligence"?
 
2013-02-13 12:16:30 AM

ZAZ: IQ doesn't have to be normally distributed.


IQ is normally distributed, by definition.  You could argue that the underlying intelligence they are trying to measure isn't normally distributed, but that doesn't matter.
 
2013-02-13 12:17:05 AM

FizixJunkee: Fano: Rufus Lee King: thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?

I don't think so, no.
Pocket Ninja:
"Remember, if you want to boast about the enormous size of your IQ in one of these threads, there are certain standards and procedures that you need to follow lest people think you're some sort of insufferable braggart. First of all, you need to begin your IQ statement with some sort of declaimer explaining that you don't really care about your IQ. Something like, "I'm not really sure that it means all that much," or "I've never really placed much stock in this, but," or something like that. You could also go a slightly different path, acknowledging that your IQ is perhaps not quite as high as that of others, but that you were hung over/sick/distracted/bored when you took the test and so almost certainly didn't score as high as you otherwise might. Be careful to not overplay this hand, especially if others have already used something similar.

When you get to the actual number, it's generally best to express it as a range. Like, saying "I scored a 147" would possibly be impressive, except that, like in the Price is Right when some asshat comes in on the initial bid and goes one dollar over your offer and wins as a result, it's too easy to top. So, keeping it somewhat vague (I scored in the 140s-150s range, but the administrator said there were some irregularities that might have meant I actually scored much higher, etc.) works to your advantage. It's also a good idea to hang back in the thread a bit, wait to see if there some general field of scores being posted, and remain within striking distance of that so that you don't sound too out there. For example, if everyone is placing themselves in the 150-160 range, you might come in the upper 160s. Don't blow the field by more than a few points, though; you're likely to find yourself a target.

Self-hobbling is another great technique to make yourself seem more realist ...


I would pay money for a book derived from his posts over the years, in context or not.

Also, I'm still waiting for the legendary thread where he and Spentmiles have a trolloff. That sparkling up and comer could hold his own for what I imagine in my mind the most extraordinary exchange in human history.
 
m00
2013-02-13 12:17:18 AM

Mutiny32: But really, for example, I have some stupid high IQ and I had to take college algebra over a few times just to get a passing grade.


FizixJunkee: As usual, Pocket Ninja is right on the money.

 
2013-02-13 12:17:43 AM

thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?



"I don't know what my IQ is. People who gloat about their IQs are losers."

--(supposedly) Stephen Hawking

\or what PocketNinja said
 
2013-02-13 12:20:32 AM

chaosweaver: That, and people would likely expect more from me if I did join, and I'm okay with taking it easy now that I'm out of the Military.


Oh, you were in the military?  That means you took an actual IQ test: the ASVAB.

What was your AFQT score?
 
2013-02-13 12:21:46 AM

Seth'n'Spectrum: emersonbiggins: Save the $200k

It used to be 3000 pounds, tops.

Unlike in the U.S., other countries' education systems actually make sense.


I'm impressed.  But, hey, at least our highways are free. /sarc
 
2013-02-13 12:24:24 AM

m00: Mutiny32: But really, for example, I have some stupid high IQ and I had to take college algebra over a few times just to get a passing grade.

FizixJunkee: As usual, Pocket Ninja is right on the money.


Except I didn't want to mention it because I would sound like I was being smug about it. I mentioned it was because I simply have first-hand experience in the point I was trying to make.

Also, I was meta-trolling.
 
2013-02-13 12:24:31 AM
Great...she'll be the only girl on the pole muttering about quantum physics.
 
2013-02-13 12:28:10 AM

IXI Jim IXI: Great...she'll be the only girl on the pole muttering about quantum physics.


I gotta admit, that would be pretty hot.
 
2013-02-13 12:29:47 AM

Rufus Lee King: I hope you folks realize that IQ tests are culturally biased. One might even call them racist.



RACIST???

That could be a pretty damn strong accusation, dude.

/Depending on who they favor, of course
 
2013-02-13 12:29:50 AM
What's wrong with her hand?

i1164.photobucket.com

i1164.photobucket.com

/make a pass at her now
//before she's only British hot
///who plays piano like that?
 
2013-02-13 12:32:49 AM
Cute

You don't seem to understand how this works subby.
 
2013-02-13 12:32:50 AM

mephisto_kur: "everybody before me had got around the 130 mark"

Invalid test.


no shiat. that's not much of a bell curve.
 
2013-02-13 12:35:48 AM

Joafu: "Thrilled Lauren, of Loughton, Essex, is the daughter of a black cab driver"
[media.realitatea.ro image 728x521]

I guess this works in reverse?
[www.omgsoysauce.com image 296x408]


Came here to do this exact post.
 
2013-02-13 12:37:03 AM
I'm not familiar with the "Mensa Test" and I'm sure the UK one is different, and I'm sure The Sun can botch any description of anything, but if it is scored like the Stanford-Binet the younger you are, the higher your score is for the exact same answers as an older test taker, and anything over 145 is pretty much the same score, in terms of test-retest validity.
So, congrats, kid, yawn.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:43 AM

Seth'n'Spectrum: emersonbiggins: Save the $200k

From their undergrad webpage:

Like most English universities, Cambridge will be charging new UK and EU students tuition fee of £9,000 per year for all undergraduate courses in 2012-13.

Rather than pay your tuition fees up front or while studying at the University, you can take out a government student loan for tuition, and defer payment until you have left Cambridge and are earning a minimum salary (currently £21,000 per year).

It used to be 3000 pounds, tops.

Unlike in the U.S., other countries' education systems actually make sense.


Tuition at UCLA, Cal Berkeley, and other top public univerisities isn't much higher.  The difference is room and board, not tuition.
 
2013-02-13 12:43:54 AM

Mutiny32: m00: Mutiny32: But really, for example, I have some stupid high IQ and I had to take college algebra over a few times just to get a passing grade.

FizixJunkee: As usual, Pocket Ninja is right on the money.

Except I didn't want to mention it because I would sound like I was being smug about it. I mentioned it was because I simply have first-hand experience in the point I was trying to make.

Also, I was meta-trolling.


And it was a thing of beauty, one of the best I've seen, and now you've gone and spoiled it.
 
m00
2013-02-13 01:00:15 AM

Mutiny32: m00: Mutiny32: But really, for example, I have some stupid high IQ and I had to take college algebra over a few times just to get a passing grade.

FizixJunkee: As usual, Pocket Ninja is right on the money.

Except I didn't want to mention it because I would sound like I was being smug about it. I mentioned it was because I simply have first-hand experience in the point I was trying to make.

Also, I was meta-trolling.


But you actually have a "stupid high IQ" right?
 
2013-02-13 01:00:50 AM

Cyno01: But remember folks...

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x500]

25.media.tumblr.com

Can I settle for one?
 
m00
2013-02-13 01:01:40 AM

LabGrrl: I'm not familiar with the "Mensa Test" and I'm sure the UK one is different, and I'm sure The Sun can botch any description of anything, but if it is scored like the Stanford-Binet the younger you are, the higher your score is for the exact same answers as an older test taker, and anything over 145 is pretty much the same score, in terms of test-retest validity.
So, congrats, kid, yawn.


Are you one of those "fake lab girls"?
 
2013-02-13 01:02:22 AM

Jim_Callahan: runescorpio: drjekel_mrhyde: Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.

This

Shes an actor. She got paid lots of money to take some dick and got really famous. Her career is likely more satisfying than most.
Not sure how that shows unintelligence.

Not only that, she got  out of porn while she was still at the top of her game, kept enough rights and made good enough deals that she's rich as hell, and largely manages her own properties and right.  Pretty solid performance for any profession, and rather impressive for an actor of any stripe.  Most hollywood types wouldn't get paid at all if they negotiated their own contracts like porn actors do.


Actually she didn't get rich as hell. Her husband died in a car accident, she didn't have a whole lot of money and was 8 months pregnant. I remember hearing that she was asking for donations, and slipped into depression. IIRC, her husband had a life insurance policy that eventually paid out. She hit the bottle pretty hard. I think she took up a hobby hunting for dinosaur fossils in Utah.
 
2013-02-13 01:03:21 AM
161 is what I got as a kid, and that's despite scoring 20 on part of it because of my learning disability.  I took it again later and all the work I'd done in that area boosted that part of my IQ up over 100, but my overall fell to a still respectable 130.  To be fair, I was (and still am) on some medication the second time that messes with my memory a lot.

I peaked in 5th grade.  I scored second in my grade on a math test and got a perfect score on the reading test.  That and $5 will get me a sandwich.
 
2013-02-13 01:09:20 AM

m00: LabGrrl: I'm not familiar with the "Mensa Test" and I'm sure the UK one is different, and I'm sure The Sun can botch any description of anything, but if it is scored like the Stanford-Binet the younger you are, the higher your score is for the exact same answers as an older test taker, and anything over 145 is pretty much the same score, in terms of test-retest validity.
So, congrats, kid, yawn.

Are you one of those "fake lab girls"?


No, I'm the real LabGrrl. All the other LabGrrls are just LabGrrlFaking.
 
2013-02-13 01:12:20 AM

chaosweaver: CSB time, now...

I went to the MN state fair a couple years ago with my previous girlfriend, and we found the Mensa booth. Girlfriend was very gung ho about trying to join, and sat down right then and there, trying to figure out the tests they had set up.

Being bored out of my skull for the next fifteen minutes, mostly due to the fact that the only booths nearby were for churches and private colleges, I decided to take a look at them, myself. I grabbed the nearest one and completed it in a matter of seconds. I then reset it and did it in a different way.

The person watching the booth was staring at me by the time I looked up after the 7th time completing the little test. When his brain finally re-engaged, he asked me if I would come in and take the official test. I politely declined, and we moved on.

Before anyone calls me a pretentious ass for this story, I did not decline because I felt I was better than them, or for any other, equally douche-tastic reason. My brain seems to be built for creative problem solving, and general creativity. One of the reasons I write and love to cook. At any given time, I have 7 ideas for short stories in my head. However, when it comes to showing my work, or even describing a recipe, I'm completely at a loss. This of course makes writing and teaching a little difficult at times. That alone makes me feel that I'm not Mensa material.

That, and people would likely expect more from me if I did join, and I'm okay with taking it easy now that I'm out of the Military.

/end CSB


It's a social club. Nobody expects shiat. You can participate in their activities and challenges or just show up for the food and beer. The MENSA group I met set up an event to try the lunch buffet at a strip club. Lady that organized heard that they had good lunches. Bam: MENSA meeting. It's not like they sat around trying to show how smart they are.

They were mostly friendly and normal. One pattern that I did notice was that they were very outgoing-- socially and professionally. I think they just like hanging around similarly intense people.

/ Not a MENSA member
// Not socially outgoing
 
2013-02-13 01:15:52 AM
I took an IQ test in high school and was told I scored very high.  However, I'm pretty sure all that booze I drank in college, grad school and during my early career knocked off quite a few points.  Along with my bout with X, coke and dope.

And now look at me, I'm posting regularly on Fark regaling you all with my genius!!!!
 
2013-02-13 01:39:08 AM
PocketNinja = my hero
 
2013-02-13 01:41:45 AM

Mr. Eugenides: FizixJunkee: Wait.  Is a 161 IQ a big deal?  Perhaps it's because I'm surrounded by nerds, but 161 isn't all that impressive.

Every 15 points represents one standard deviation from the median.  Being 4 standard deviations above the median puts you in some very rarified territory.

For your edification, that IQ test you took on the interwebs isn't at all accurate.  I tend to score 160 to 180 on those online tests.  On the real tests I scored quite a bit lower.


A fair number of the on-line ones max out at 160.
Ten years ago or so a colleague at work insisted I take one and then it became a game where we took a bunch.
Of the suite of 10 or so I took, there we so many highly similar questions that maxing out was trivial. It was no longer worth winning a free beer at lunch.
 
2013-02-13 01:42:37 AM

CthulhuCalling: Jim_Callahan: runescorpio: drjekel_mrhyde: Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.

This

Shes an actor. She got paid lots of money to take some dick and got really famous. Her career is likely more satisfying than most.
Not sure how that shows unintelligence.

Not only that, she got  out of porn while she was still at the top of her game, kept enough rights and made good enough deals that she's rich as hell, and largely manages her own properties and right.  Pretty solid performance for any profession, and rather impressive for an actor of any stripe.  Most hollywood types wouldn't get paid at all if they negotiated their own contracts like porn actors do.

Actually she didn't get rich as hell. Her husband died in a car accident, she didn't have a whole lot of money and was 8 months pregnant. I remember hearing that she was asking for donations, and slipped into depression. IIRC, her husband had a life insurance policy that eventually paid out. She hit the bottle pretty hard. I think she took up a hobby hunting for dinosaur fossils in Utah.


Don't know anything about that, but she did dabble in professional gaming for a while.  She was a pretty solid FPS player in the CS/UT/Q3 heyday.
 
2013-02-13 02:28:26 AM
I await her ground breaking scientific discoveries.

Until then I don't give a damn what her IQ is.
 
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