imfallen_angel: 2wolves: It's not what you have, it's what you do with it.This...I have probably a story that goes beyond the ordinary... in my youth they tested all the kids for a prototype program for the high IQ kids... and (of course as I'll telling this story), I got in without really wanting to, but they insisted.The other kids were the typical stereotypes, but I was the "bad apple"... I had trouble in my classes, in large because of my outside-school life that was fairly stupid.. and I was bringing the average of the group down.So they retested me, and due to their own rules, they were not able to kick me out as I was one of the highest scores (if not the highest, but they'd never tell).I've done quite a few tests and I've always scored from around 150 to over 180.Now the other kids of this group had been pumped that they'd be the future head of government, leaders of men, lawyers, doctors, etc. So far, I've yet to see or hear from a single one that did anything news worthy, if anything, the few I have come across during the years have all ended up with very mediocre lives.While myself, I quit school, went to night school to get my diploma and some college, etc. and did a shiatload of stupid things, but overall, I have a lot of abilities to figure stuff out, build, plan, etc. but for life stuff, I did a lot of mistakes, but at least nothing that I haven't been able to fix at some point.So when it comes to IQ, sure, according to these tests I'm a genius, and I can outdo a crapload of people for many things, I'm a faster thinker, and usually can calculate a lot more details than others do, but I've learned that there's so many stupid people, and so many that managed to get quite far in life and end up being the ones that one can end up bumping heads against, that it's better to just do your best, enjoy life, etc.My biggest flaw is my memory for names, numbers, and some areas, while it's great for others, but as I get older, I've notices that instead of remembering things like other people state they do (or can), I find that I simply integrate things into some sort of global pool of knowledge without remembering how I learned it, from where, or who, just that I know things (and can easily look them up to confirm).But still, because I can't learn things "by heart", I would never be able to be a doctor/surgeon or such things, even though I probably would be able to learn procedures, do them flawlessly and know everything inside out about it, but would not be able to do the paperwork. I love science and medicine and if life would have been different, I probably would have been someone that could have done huge things, but I was never pulled or pushed in the right direction.So my point for all this is that your point is a very valid one, IQ is in very wide field and doesn't mean much... it really is a question of how this "IQ" works, and how one can use it.I seriously would believe that some people that could be/could have been huge contributors to science, never get/got to because life didn't give them the chance, whatever the reasons.
pippi longstocking: I have a large IQ as well, and people never like it when I tell them that there is much difference between you and me, from you and a retard; so you best listen to me.
evilsofa: No, no, you guys, it's the cab that's African-AmericanBritish, not the driver.
revrendjim: IQ scores become less valid as they get farther from the mean, simply because a lucky guess on one question can have a large effect. Once you are getting scores above about three standard deviations (145) all you can say with certainty is that the person probably has an IQ greater than 145. To give a precise numerical value is meaningless. Of course a highly intelligent person would know that.
bugcrusher: pippi longstocking: I have a large IQ as well, and people never like it when I tell them that there is much difference between you and me, from you and a retard; so you best listen to me.I found out that I was born in the year of the snake, so I think I'm smarter than you and I might be right. Same diff.
m00: Can one of the high-IQ geniuses on this thread give me a quantitative definition of "Intelligence"?
mephisto_kur: "everybody before me had got around the 130 mark"Invalid test.
Jim_Callahan: runescorpio: drjekel_mrhyde: Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.ThisShes an actor. She got paid lots of money to take some dick and got really famous. Her career is likely more satisfying than most.Not sure how that shows unintelligence.Not only that, she got out of porn while she was still at the top of her game, kept enough rights and made good enough deals that she's rich as hell, and largely manages her own properties and right. Pretty solid performance for any profession, and rather impressive for an actor of any stripe. Most hollywood types wouldn't get paid at all if they negotiated their own contracts like porn actors do.
i upped my meds-up yours: Joafu: "Thrilled Lauren, of Loughton, Essex, is the daughter of a black cab driver"What a black cab might look like:[landanbyfd.files.wordpress.com image 408x272]
runescorpio: drjekel_mrhyde: Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.ThisShes an actor. She got paid lots of money to take some dick and got really famous. Her career is likely more satisfying than most.Not sure how that shows unintelligence.
heinrich66: Be nice if one of these geniuses actually did something for a change, instead of sitting in a wheelchair all day lopsided.
ArkAngel: Lauren, of Loughton, Essex, is the daughter of a black cab driverThis could be part of the reason. Studies of black cab drivers show them to be unusually intelligent, being required to know the areas they drive extremely well. The test they have to pass averages 12 attempts and almost three years of practice.
Fano: Just_a_Bear: trappedspirit: Just_a_Bear: All mensa members i've ever met had no clue how to tie their shoelaces. I hope this lovely young lady is also blessed with a trace of common sense.Somehow I get the strange feeling you don't spend a lot of time with Mensa members.True, I have yet to find one worth hanging out with.[img839.imageshack.us image 850x637]This guy seems pretty fun to hang out with
FizixJunkee: Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.I watched the documentary, "After Porn Ends", and it interviewed Asia. She seemed very Aspie to me. I have no problem believing that she's smarter than the average bear.\the doc streams on Netflix if you're interested
Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.
James F. Campbell: taxandspend: Wake me when these geniuses use their knowledge to change the world like Einstein did.I'd rather they not change it like Einstein did, if the result is a new superweapon.
Madbassist1: Flappyhead: Asia Carrera is a member of Mensa, just so we're clear on how meaningful IQ scores are these days.Asia Carrera is filthy rich by farking for a living. I wish I was intelligent enough to pull that off.
craig328: The point I'm making is: a high IQ is nothing more than a tool. In order to do something with it you have to have the motivation to do so and the discipline and training to make use of it effectively. Edison is credited with saying that invention is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration. For those with high IQs, the formula may be not quite as unbalanced as that...but it's still weighted way heavily toward the "sweating" end of the spectrum. Good for this girl and her raw brain talent. Now, go learn to put it to good use.
gumpy: almost to:dr but you just described my life which is more than a little bit weird.I was informed of my very heigh IQ but never seemed to engage with academia.I taught myself web development, and have a small web company in the UK instead if the doctor/lawyer/scientist I was told I would be.The memory thing rings true with me. I have very different recall to anyone I know. Crap with names and dates but amazing in general knowledge.Did you ever get tested for dyslexia? I did and I am. Super smart in some ways and dumb in others.
FizixJunkee: thursdaypostal: Is it possible to mention your own IQ without sounding like an absolute tool?Only if it's under 100.
GypsyJoker: Aidan:I really really really wish schools were oriented toward teaching children, especially higher IQ children, to not only identify what they want to do, but how to achieve it with good, hard work. I think we'd see more tangible results from of our purportedly extra-tasty brains.Holy shiat, this.Our unwillingness to develop gifted students properly is one of the biggest failures of our educational system (if not the biggest).
mamoru: Considering that IQ scores are (as I understand it) based on the current population, and the average is always 100, and surely the methods of measuring it have changed, is it even meaningful at all to compare a current IQ score with those of another time period?
Mr. Shabooboo: Ya, but can she manipulate knowledge into the abstract the way that Einstein and Hawking do?
Krazikarl: People who who in fields with lots of really smart people don't ever think about stupid IQ tests. Go hang out with a bunch of astrophysicists, or particle physicists, or brain surgeons, or whatever. You won't hear anybody rambling on about scores that they got on a test that is poorly calibrated for anybody over 140 or so anyway.
Aidan: I really really really wish schools were oriented toward teaching children, especially higher IQ children, to not only identify what they want to do, but how to achieve it with good, hard work. I think we'd see more tangible results from of our purportedly extra-tasty brains.
craig328: Ah, but you see, if you did that then you would be very clearly adjudging some students as being "smarter" or "better" than other students.
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