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(KNBC 4 Los Angeles) NewsFlash Possible sighting of cop-killer Chris Dorner, shots fired in Big Bear and Highway 38 closed in area for manhunt (link goes to live coverage)   (nbclosangeles.com) divider line 3247
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2013-02-13 03:24:37 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: LookForTheArrow: oh yeah, i really want to keep that info right up to the minute for ass-crackers like you. Maybe i do. Maybe i dont you disphit.

Alcohol kills far more people per year than guns. You might want to keep that in mind.

Either way, you didn't say, "I *DO* live in California, you dipshiat!!" so I'm still assuming this has nothing to do with you, that your police department is entirely different from LAPD and surrounding area, and that you're having an attack of Munchausen's Oppression at the moment.


except I really did get farked with by socal cops who pulled egregious shiat on people I love - and it does actually affect me now and in the future. That's a damn fool thing to say, "doesn't affect me". Your Mom doesn't affect me either, but you dont see me okaying lighting HER house on fire, do you? You dipshiat.
 
2013-02-13 03:24:40 AM  

LookForTheArrow: Lenny_da_Hog: LookForTheArrow: how am I NOT supposed to be mad at that?

By remembering that you don't live in California, and aside from the entertainment value from the drama, it doesn't affect you in the least.

BULLshiat. you dont know where I live and i HAVE been messed with by socal police for no reason so i kindly invite you to shut the fark up you know-nothing ass.

torwars.com
 
2013-02-13 03:25:46 AM  
Is it possible the tear gas started the cabin fire?
 
2013-02-13 03:25:51 AM  

TheJoe03: Owangotang: what about Monica Quan and her fiance?

That's actually a really important point, why did he even kill them? They didn't appear to screw him over so they are innocent in pretty much every sense of the word (ie, the people who did screw him over wouldn't be innocent in certain senses of the word).


1.  It was Dorner's idea of justice.  Quan took the most important thing in Dorner's life, so Dorner would take the most important thing in Quan's.

2   Dorner knew that going after families would terrorize his opponents like nothing else could.
 
2013-02-13 03:26:41 AM  

LookForTheArrow: except I really did get farked with by socal cops who pulled egregious shiat on people I love - and it does actually affect me now and in the future. That's a damn fool thing to say, "doesn't affect me". Your Mom doesn't affect me either, but you dont see me okaying lighting HER house on fire, do you? You dipshiat.


My mom's dead.

I was beaten and pistol-whipped by Sheriff's deputies in the Houston, TX, area because I was associating with black friends. I've since lived in places with mostly nice cops.
 
2013-02-13 03:27:18 AM  
 
Elvis didn't die, he just went home
The US faked the moon landing
The current Paul Mccartney is not the original Paul Mccartney
OJ Simpson did do it
The US government masterminded 9/11
Bin Laden died in 2001
Paul Heyman did hire the shield and greg maddox
Christopher Dorner is still alive
 
2013-02-13 03:27:48 AM  

Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: You cant understand this basic fact - that no matter what you allege happened or how many news stories proclaim what, tonight was a plain extra-legal execution.

Looked like one morally bankrupt out-of-control force taking out another morally bankrupt out-of-control force to me. It's hard to avoid deadly force when the target brags about things like asymetrical farking warfare.

Where is the outrage for Dorner's victims? Even if you are so jaded that you feel his killing cops is OK, what about Monica Quan and her fiance?


There's plenty of outrage for Dorner's victims, but I don't think holding society's "protectors" to a higher standard is unreasonable.
 
2013-02-13 03:28:25 AM  

propasaurus: LookForTheArrow: Lenny_da_Hog: LookForTheArrow: how am I NOT supposed to be mad at that?

By remembering that you don't live in California, and aside from the entertainment value from the drama, it doesn't affect you in the least.

BULLshiat. you dont know where I live and i HAVE been messed with by socal police for no reason so i kindly invite you to shut the fark up you know-nothing ass.
[torwars.com image 624x317]


funny how that happens when you tell people their tragedies aren't real, isn't it? It's like.. you're surprised this LAPD thing being corrupt.. it's real. Wow, gee, i never knew whoda thunk it!This is Fark - but the people here are real, have seen real things and we share it.. and one thing I'm sharing, is the Dorner or no - they are farkED up and proved it this last six days beyond anyones doubt. This was a total mess and they  loved doing it that way.
 
2013-02-13 03:29:04 AM  
Alonjar

I'm paraphrasing, but the scanner chatter went like this:

"Blood spatter is on wall inside in the corner"
"Which corner?  Number it"
"(somenumber) ????"
"Affirmitive"
"Go ahead with the plan.  Do the burn."
"Just like we talked about"
....pause.....
Cop:  "We have a fire"
Dispatch:  "Affirmitive.  Confirmed that we have a fire"
Cop:  "roger"
...pause...
"Fire on the front side.  He might try to run out the back."
"We're ready"
"Single shot heard inside"
"Roger.  single shot inside"
*house burns down*.

So the cops set the house on fire, and he shot himself rather than burn to death.


Jesus H. Christ.

It sounds like they intentionally burned the cabin with him inside.

If that's real, they just made Christian Dorner a martyr and a folk hero to every gun nut in the USA.
 
2013-02-13 03:30:38 AM  

ShawnDoc: 7 burners have deployed and we have a fire.


"Burner" is a slang term for a tear gas canister, faking hell people.
 
2013-02-13 03:30:48 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: LookForTheArrow: except I really did get farked with by socal cops who pulled egregious shiat on people I love - and it does actually affect me now and in the future. That's a damn fool thing to say, "doesn't affect me". Your Mom doesn't affect me either, but you dont see me okaying lighting HER house on fire, do you? You dipshiat.

My mom's dead.

I was beaten and pistol-whipped by Sheriff's deputies in the Houston, TX, area because I was associating with black friends. I've since lived in places with mostly nice cops.


and that was your answer huh? Move away? Hang out with less black people? I'm not going to honor you with any further responses. I dont think anyone should codone your accomplice, coward-ass either.
 
2013-02-13 03:30:49 AM  

Owangotang: thisisarepeat: he killed cops and coplings, he never hurt any humans.

You're projecting. I imagine a sub-human WOULD want others to be sub-human as well, maybe it's a comfort thing, but be assured that Dorner killed actual living, breathing, thinking, feeling human beings. Tough luck on lacking that thinking and feeling stuff but it seems you've found your niche as an anti-establishment crackpot. Here's hoping that works out for you!


he did not kill the two ladies he tied up.
 
2013-02-13 03:31:17 AM  

TheJoe03: Owangotang: what about Monica Quan and her fiance?

That's actually a really important point, why did he even kill them? They didn't appear to screw him over so they are innocent in pretty much every sense of the word (ie, the people who did screw him over wouldn't be innocent in certain senses of the word).


I just wonder how he actually knew Monica Quan anyway, and why he chose to start with her. I mean, sure he was angry at the defence lawyer, but how'd he find out about his daughter and track her down? It's not like lawyers tend to talk about their children (especially adult children) to the people they're defending. Just seems odd.
 
2013-02-13 03:33:22 AM  

LookForTheArrow: BarkingUnicorn: Owangotang:

With all respect:   you are getting trolled hard.

except he's not. I really do live places other than my profile says (duh) and i actually do believe everything I wrote. on this whole site, the whole time.

assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.


Trolling does not require insincerity.  It requires only inflammatory language deliberately designed to provoke maximum emotional response.
 
2013-02-13 03:33:29 AM  

LookForTheArrow: funny how that happens when you tell people their tragedies aren't real, isn't it? It's like.. you're surprised this LAPD thing being corrupt.. it's real. Wow, gee, i never knew whoda thunk it!This is Fark - but the people here are real, have seen real things and we share it.. and one thing I'm sharing, is the Dorner or no - they are farkED up and proved it this last six days beyond anyones doubt. This was a total mess and they  loved doing it that way.


Nobody said your TRAGEDYOMG wasn't real. You asked how you could NOT be mad about it. I provided you with an answer. I'm not mad about it. It raises concerns, it's something that I'd hope, out of empathy, that Californians can get in order, but mad? There's no redness or creased brow on my face, there's no adrenaline coursing through my arteries... It's an anomalous occurrence 1,000 miles away from me that will have no real affect on anything I chose to do in my life.

Perspective. That's how you keep from getting mad.
 
2013-02-13 03:33:48 AM  

propasaurus: OMG! Obama will declare anyone he doesn't like a terrorist and drone-strike their ass without a trial!

YAY! The LAPD declared this guy a terrorist and burned his ass to the ground without a trial!


For the record I, personally, am opposed to both; but I see a lot of what you refer to.
 
2013-02-13 03:33:49 AM  

LookForTheArrow: assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.


You do not understand the meaning of that word if you are using it in reference to Dorner. A man standing on a sidewalk or on a stage is assassinated. A man hunkered down in a cabin with big caliber firepower, who has killed before and has no regrets about killing again, is subdued by use of deadly force.
 
2013-02-13 03:34:57 AM  

TheJoe03: Owangotang: what about Monica Quan and her fiance?

That's actually a really important point, why did he even kill them? They didn't appear to screw him over so they are innocent in pretty much every sense of the word (ie, the people who did screw him over wouldn't be innocent in certain senses of the word).


My guess is that instead of putting the lawyer who sold him out to the police, he figured the worst punishment for him would be to take his daughter's life.  That is pretty shiatty.
 
2013-02-13 03:35:16 AM  

apoptotic: Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: You cant understand this basic fact - that no matter what you allege happened or how many news stories proclaim what, tonight was a plain extra-legal execution.

Looked like one morally bankrupt out-of-control force taking out another morally bankrupt out-of-control force to me. It's hard to avoid deadly force when the target brags about things like asymetrical farking warfare.

Where is the outrage for Dorner's victims? Even if you are so jaded that you feel his killing cops is OK, what about Monica Quan and her fiance?

There's plenty of outrage for Dorner's victims, but I don't think holding society's "protectors" to a higher standard is unreasonable.


absolutely correct. Accomplices to tyranny should get, exactly, what sort of respect from me? Any? Dorner doesn't have respect - he doesn't have a life either. That makes him dead - but that doesn't mean any justice was handed out today - and all the murderers in the force - they got to walk today, again.

Where is your outrage for that? Any?
 
2013-02-13 03:35:24 AM  

Alonjar: So the cops set the house on fire, and he shot himself rather than burn to death.


Seems most likely.

Out in a blaze o' glory some might say.

Not me.

No heroes here.
 
2013-02-13 03:35:52 AM  

deffuse: Bonanza Jellybean: CBS put up video of the shootout:

Link

intense shiat

Holy SHIAT thats a lot of big calibre rounds being shot.


I was waiting for that cameraman's windshield to shatter.  The things some people will do to keep a job...
 
2013-02-13 03:36:45 AM  

Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.

You do not understand the meaning of that word if you are using it in reference to Dorner. A man standing on a sidewalk or on a stage is assassinated. A man hunkered down in a cabin with big caliber firepower, who has killed before and has no regrets about killing again, is subdued by use of deadly force.


I spose you forgot when LAPD shot that truck from behind? 40 bullet holes in it. Two women shot.
 
2013-02-13 03:36:47 AM  

LookForTheArrow: and that was your answer huh? Move away? Hang out with less black people? I'm not going to honor you with any further responses. I dont think anyone should codone your accomplice, coward-ass either.


Oh, no. My answer was to first contact the Sheriff's department. That resulted in one of the deputies coming to my place of midnight employment and knocking all the goods off of the shelves as he lectured me about the realities of law enforcement in Texas. I called the police, who showed up and laughed with him in the parking lot.

THEN I moved away to a place where you had to have a bachelor's degree or better to be a cop, and everything was different.
 
2013-02-13 03:36:59 AM  

Owangotang: hunkered down in a cabin


lol
 
2013-02-13 03:37:54 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Is it possible the tear gas started the cabin fire?


Yes.  Some say the cops were counting on it.
 
2013-02-13 03:37:54 AM  

Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.

You do not understand the meaning of that word if you are using it in reference to Dorner. A man standing on a sidewalk or on a stage is assassinated. A man hunkered down in a cabin with big caliber firepower, who has killed before and has no regrets about killing again, is subdued by use of deadly force.


you are wrong, dead wrong. he could have been out-waited, he could have been dealt with any number of ways other than  burning him alive without dueprocess. Nothing warrants that when it can be avoided. Did they avoid it, or run into it with glee? Murdering doesn't have a context, isn't some 'he-started-it' preposition. Not with overwhelming force and a secure cordon. Two wrongs never make a right. No matter how much Judge Dredd you've been force-fed.
 
2013-02-13 03:38:03 AM  

LookForTheArrow: he doesn't have a life either.


So there is confirmation of his body now?

I've been away for a bit.
 
2013-02-13 03:38:12 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ShawnDoc: 7 burners have deployed and we have a fire.

"Burner" is a slang term for a tear gas canister, faking hell people.


Hey intelligent application of knowledge is NOT authorized when discussing LAPD. Please discard this fact and instead proceed immediately to drooling-on-yourself rage. Tin-foil hat sold separately.
 
2013-02-13 03:38:58 AM  
So here's the situation as I understand it:
So they "accidentally a fire" with tear gas grenades. Because nobody wants to risk death trying to capture a sworn cop killer.
Then Dorner decides to shoot himself rather than surrender or burn to death.

Please explain why this is murder. Presumably, Dorner killed himself, exactly as planned.
 
2013-02-13 03:40:33 AM  
Bonanza Jellybean

CBS put up video of the shootout:

Link

intense shiat


Holy balls.

Was some of that .50 caliber?
 

/for those of you who weren't there for the takedown of Osama Bin Laden, here's a reenactment!

Sheesh.
 
2013-02-13 03:40:49 AM  
I have to go. but let me say it one more time: You can water the tree of liberty or the tree of tyrants.. and some times... you do both. Tonight was farked up all around - but guess what?  We can still have justice served, because murderers walked tonight, laughing while they murdered. Dorner is dead. Am i happy? Hell no. The cops are going to walk and do this again. Am I happy? Hell no?

Is there anything to be happy about here? Hell no.
 
2013-02-13 03:41:15 AM  

gregscott: So here's the situation as I understand it:
So they "accidentally a fire" with tear gas grenades. Because nobody wants to risk death trying to capture a sworn cop killer.
Then Dorner decides to shoot himself rather than surrender or burn to death.

Please explain why this is murder. Presumably, Dorner killed himself, exactly as planned.


There it is.
 
2013-02-13 03:41:22 AM  

libranoelrose: LookForTheArrow: he doesn't have a life either.

So there is confirmation of his body now?

I've been away for a bit.


The latest I've heard is that they have found the charred remains of a person in the cabin and are waiting to identify them.
 
2013-02-13 03:42:05 AM  

ontariolightning: Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.

You do not understand the meaning of that word if you are using it in reference to Dorner. A man standing on a sidewalk or on a stage is assassinated. A man hunkered down in a cabin with big caliber firepower, who has killed before and has no regrets about killing again, is subdued by use of deadly force.

I spose you forgot when LAPD shot that truck from behind? 40 bullet holes in it. Two women shot.


That was not what was being discussed but I did not forget anything. That was a clear abuse of power and the individuals responsible should be disciplined accordingly. Not sure how that relates to Dorner forcing a suicide by cop today.
 
2013-02-13 03:42:08 AM  

gregscott: So here's the situation as I understand it:
So they "accidentally a fire" with tear gas grenades. Because nobody wants to risk death trying to capture a sworn cop killer.
Then Dorner decides to shoot himself rather than surrender or burn to death.

Please explain why this is murder. Presumably, Dorner killed himself, exactly as planned.


is shooting  40 bullets from behind, at a moving vehicle, not attempted murder?
Will those police officers get charged for attempted murder? If not why the fark not?
If it were anyone else they'd farking be in cuffs by farking now
 
2013-02-13 03:42:14 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Is it possible the tear gas started the cabin fire?


Police scanner chatter talked about deploying the/a "burner," and there are a bunch of recordings of SBC officers cheering on "burn the mfer," "torch him," "burn it down," etc.
 
2013-02-13 03:42:51 AM  

links136: My guess is that instead of putting the lawyer who sold him out to the police, he figured the worst punishment for him would be to take his daughter's life.


Which is weird. On the other hand, men kill women all the time out of jealousy or rejection. I'm not saying there is more to that story but I wouldn't be surprised if there was.

i.i.com.com
 
2013-02-13 03:42:53 AM  
Oh that reminds me - Burning Man tickets go on sale tomorrow, high noon California time.
 
2013-02-13 03:43:32 AM  
get it? there is literally nothing good about any of this. Dorner is no hero, but he's a reflection of something ugly people would rather move away from then deal with. The living must deal with what remains, and what remains is extra-legal killing-in-the-name-of.
 
2013-02-13 03:44:41 AM  

studebaker hoch: Oh that reminds me - Burning Man tickets go on sale tomorrow, high noon California time.


I'm registered, but I'm only buying to scalp them to losers who didn't register.
 
2013-02-13 03:44:58 AM  
It was an example of the police trying to assassinate Dorner when he would not have been in a position to defend himself seeing as they were firing at him from behind.

Owangotang: ontariolightning: Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.

You do not understand the meaning of that word if you are using it in reference to Dorner. A man standing on a sidewalk or on a stage is assassinated. A man hunkered down in a cabin with big caliber firepower, who has killed before and has no regrets about killing again, is subdued by use of deadly force.

I spose you forgot when LAPD shot that truck from behind? 40 bullet holes in it. Two women shot.

That was not what was being discussed but I did not forget anything. That was a clear abuse of power and the individuals responsible should be disciplined accordingly. Not sure how that relates to Dorner forcing a suicide by cop today.

 
2013-02-13 03:45:06 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ShawnDoc: 7 burners have deployed and we have a fire.

"Burner" is a slang term for a tear gas canister, faking hell people.


They don't seem surprised when the fire starts.  You'd think they'd be surprised if it wasn't planned.
"7 burners have deployed and we have a fire."

Not to mention this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNk-bV40XMc
 
2013-02-13 03:45:53 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ShawnDoc: 7 burners have deployed and we have a fire.

"Burner" is a slang term for a tear gas canister, faking hell people.


As I understand it, "burner" is a term for an incendiary tear gas canister.  Seems there's another type that doesn't burn.  The fireworks would certainly help move people out the area, but it doesn't seem prudent to use burners in an 85 year-old wooden cabin.  Perhaps that's all they had, though.

Earlier, I thought someone said they used flash-bangs too.  Those will definitely start a fire.  But I don't think a flash-bang would be used unless the cops were breaking down the door.
 
2013-02-13 03:47:34 AM  

J. Frank Parnell: timujin: Pretty sure that link illustrates the fact that they do have to have permission.

Yeah, that was my intent. Misread the comment as "can they do that without permission?" or something.

Read these large threads fast, and mistakes happen.


ah, right then, never mind, carry on...
 
2013-02-13 03:47:48 AM  

thisisarepeat: There were no non-slave state founding fathers, there were no free state founding fathers. There were no STATES!

Its never too late to get an elementary school education.


Dear Derplord McChucklefark:

The writer was referring to the Constitution of 1787, aka the Second Constitution or present Constitution (the first being the more-obscure-in-modern-times Articles of Confederation).

Between 1776 and 1787, the US most certainly DID have states, though rather more of an independent nature than in even the pre-Civil War Constitution of 1787 (from 1781 to the final ratification of the second Constitution, the individual States operated under the Articles of Confederation which operated more similarly to the European Union and was considerably harder to amend and pass matters of importance to the Union as a whole--for starters, it had a unicameral legislature and required absolute approval of all members to pass anything...by comparison, even the modern amendment process for the present Constitution is easy-peasy compared to getting anything through the Confederation Congress).

And yes, even in this period, the issue of slavery was starting to become decidedly controversial, to the point that prohibition on importation of slaves after 1808 was explicitly included in the Constitution of 1787 (England even at that point was making very serious noises about complete abolition of the slave trade and there were concerns that the southern states that had historically been a major center of slave trade could become the new Barbados).

In fact, the controversy over admitting new territories and states as "slave" or "free" was already quite a hot potato by the time of passage of the Articles of Confederation (the original constitution) in 1781; by 1787 (in one of the last acts by the Continental Congress before the Constitutional Convention that led to the Constitution of 1787) the Northwest Ordinance (allowing incorporation of the Northwest Territory into the US) was signed, one condition of which being that any states admitted into the Union via the division of the Northwest Territory could never allow slavery (this being demanded by pro-Abolitionist movements in the northern states, and also ironically by the slaveholding Southern states--the latter because they really didn't want the Northwest Territory or states comprised from it possibly competing with their zero-cost labor in the tobacco market, and no, I'm not making this up).  It's partly from the brouhaha regarding the Northwest Ordinance that provoked similar in-fighting and brouhahas during the Constitutional Convention and ever onward until the Confederacy finally split and then had its arse handed to it five years later.

(As an aside, the Articles of Confederation are some interesting reading to give an idea of what was going through the minds of the Founding Fathers with the Second Amendment in particular.  The Second Amendment, as it turns out, was likely an attempt to add back in a provision that existed in the Articles of Confederation that not only prohibited infringement of the right to bear arms but explicitly required states to maintain an active state militia (the direct predecessor of the National Guard) complete with munitions and other provisions including tents (which also explains the Third Amendment prohibiting quartering soldiers in people's homes) and required (during times of war when the US Army would be formed from the state defense forces) that officers below the ranks of colonel be declared only by the state defense forces.  The main thing comparable nowadays would be the National Guard or Swiss canton militias in their national guard service (which may well have been the basis for the American model).  It's pretty obvious from study of its predecessor document that the intent of the Second Amendment WAS pretty much to set up state guards, and it was expected that states would have training of men in the use of weapons and in military maneuvers in general; if anything, it was a kindler, gentler version of the Articles of Confederation's "mandatory state guards" section.)

(Interestingly, there was also one New England area that was an "odd man out"--Vermont, which started out as a disputed area claimed by both New York and New Hampshire (the territorial dispute started back in the Colonial period and lasted throughout the Articles of Confederation era), eventually ended up from 1787 to 1791 as a de facto independent republic (probably best comparable nowadays to the status of some areas in the former USSR like Abkhazia that are de facto independent owing to unresolved territorial disputes; Somaliland (a de facto independent state that is, along with Kurdistan, probably the most famous unrecognised-by-the-UN country in the world) would also be a good comparison to Vermont's legal status at the time) and finally joined the US proper in 1791 after border disputes were finally settled with New York (which still maintained claims on some property now belonging to Vermont; New Hampshire had by this point dropped its territorial claims on parts of the de facto Republic of Vermont).  They pretty much spent much of their existence either trying to run off the British Empire (Vermont was the last bit of Colonial land to see battle in the Revolutionary War, to the point that up to the Treaty of Paris there were serious discussions with the government of Quebec in secret) or trying to get admitted to the US as the fourteenth state (which seems to have been the goal all along by anti-Tory forces).)
 
2013-02-13 03:48:53 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: As I understand it, "burner" is a term for an incendiary tear gas canister. Seems there's another type that doesn't burn. The fireworks would certainly help move people out the area, but it doesn't seem prudent to use burners in an 85 year-old wooden cabin. Perhaps that's all they had, though.


Could be.  I know in Thailand they've had problems with people getting seriously injured, and maybe even deaths (its been a few years) when tear gas canisters were fired into crowds and exploded. They however were made by China and were past their expiration date.
 
2013-02-13 03:50:14 AM  
Lenny_da_Hog

studebaker hoch: Oh that reminds me - Burning Man tickets go on sale tomorrow, high noon California time.

I'm registered, but I'm only buying to scalp them to losers who didn't register.


I though they were going to hold onto the paper tickets this year?  Only release those right at the end?

/anything's better than last year.
 
2013-02-13 03:51:48 AM  

LookForTheArrow: Owangotang: LookForTheArrow: assassination is never cool no matter how many criminals do it. Unless you think cops should act like criminals, you agree with me 100%. dipshiats.

You do not understand the meaning of that word if you are using it in reference to Dorner. A man standing on a sidewalk or on a stage is assassinated. A man hunkered down in a cabin with big caliber firepower, who has killed before and has no regrets about killing again, is subdued by use of deadly force.

you are wrong, dead wrong. he could have been out-waited, he could have been dealt with any number of ways other than  burning him alive without dueprocess. Nothing warrants that when it can be avoided. Did they avoid it, or run into it with glee? Murdering doesn't have a context, isn't some 'he-started-it' preposition. Not with overwhelming force and a secure cordon. Two wrongs never make a right. No matter how much Judge Dredd you've been force-fed.


Hey now, don't you go bringing Judge Dredd into your little meltdown.  I don't think comic book fans and hardcore fascists really have a lot of overlap in the venn diagram, so keep that frothy rage on target.

This is your final warning.  You have 20 seconds to comply.
 
2013-02-13 03:52:04 AM  

quatchi: Alonjar: So the cops set the house on fire, and he shot himself rather than burn to death.

Seems most likely.

Out in a blaze o' glory some might say.

Not me.

No heroes here.


But you're mistaken.  A hero is the protagonist in a morality tale.  He doesn't have to be a good guy, just the main character.
 
2013-02-13 03:52:05 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: ShawnDoc: 7 burners have deployed and we have a fire.

"Burner" is a slang term for a tear gas canister, faking hell people.


I don't know if LEO has a different use for it but we used burner as a radio call for a willie pete (white phosphorus)
 
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