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(KNBC 4 Los Angeles) NewsFlash Possible sighting of cop-killer Chris Dorner, shots fired in Big Bear and Highway 38 closed in area for manhunt (link goes to live coverage)   (nbclosangeles.com) divider line 3250
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2013-02-12 05:46:47 PM

Popcorn Johnny: CNN reporting that he has 2 hostages.


I predict that on average, the news reporting with be 37% wrong.
And that CNN will be at least 42% wrong.
 
2013-02-12 05:46:49 PM

natgod: where the hell did the LAPD get 1 million spare dollars to give out for information leading to dorner?  aren't they always short on cash and cops?  would people not turn dorner in for like 10k or, you know, free?


Donations
 
2013-02-12 05:46:50 PM

Popcorn Johnny: What are the odds that SWAT storms in to find an empty cabin?


THIS
 
2013-02-12 05:47:07 PM
So they told the media to cut all their live feeds.  Wonder if they remembered to tell this guy.

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2013-02-12 05:47:16 PM

PsiChick: bluorangefyre: PsiChick: bluorangefyre: If they know where he is, call in an F-15 and blow him to HELL!

Wow, what a reasonable opinion. We should totally blow up a man who may be mentally ill and his two innocent hostages. That's how justice works!

Didn't see the part about hostages until after I posted that.  And mentally ill?  Is that what we're calling serial killers/mass murders these days?  Sorry, but he deserves to have round upon round upon motherfarking round pumped into his body until he is 100% lead.  And also, 100% dead.  He knew what he was doing.  To call him mentally ill is to call The Unabomber mentally ill, and that man was a frikken genius that used the wrong methods to get his opinion about technology across.  Dorner was looking to bring attention to the issue of corruption in the LAPD in the light by the only means he KNEW would get attention.  But its not as if the rest of the planet didn't know how corrupt the LAPD was.

Actually I already posted twice indicating why I think he's mentally ill. It involves the words 'symptoms written all over his farking manifesto'. Assuming the manifesto is unaltered, he shows, among other things, clearly disordered thinking (like schizophrenia), inability to realize when he is in the wrong or connect punishment to action, and breathtaking, pre-existing anger management issues. So yes, he probably is mentally ill, although it's impossible to say for sure.

Also, IQ does not indicate sanity, especially since some disorders actually correlate with high IQ (Asperger's, for example).


You know who else was schizo?
 
2013-02-12 05:47:21 PM
I hope Wolf says "or whatever" more.
 
2013-02-12 05:47:24 PM
Breaking: CNN now reporting that 12 Dorners are trapped in the mine, and 11 have survived

UPDATE: Only one Dorner has survivied
 
2013-02-12 05:47:26 PM

netweavr: Nothing's going to happen until sundown when they enter with the sun immediately behind them.


What a brilliant plan! Theres no defense against that...

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2013-02-12 05:47:32 PM
I'm hearing something about him stealing a cop car and escaping?
 
2013-02-12 05:47:36 PM

mudpants: Popcorn Johnny: What are the odds that SWAT storms in to find an empty cabin?

THIS


Well it is a Tuesday
 
2013-02-12 05:47:37 PM

khyberkitsune: well 200+ cops getting ready to rock and roll that mountain.

Plus a bunker buster squad getting called in.


It would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't a bunch of thugs salivating at the chance to play tommy lee jones.  These guys love their pseudo combat zone where they have little to nothing to lose.
 
2013-02-12 05:47:50 PM

eddievercetti: Get Tommy Lee Jones, he knows a thing or two about fugitives!


I don't think so, SPORTO.
 
2013-02-12 05:48:01 PM

Cyno01: netweavr: Nothing's going to happen until sundown when they enter with the sun immediately behind them.

What a brilliant plan! Theres no defense against that...

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That doesn't work as well as you seem to think
 
2013-02-12 05:48:04 PM

MBooda: TommyymmoT: Now's the time to rob a bank in San Bernardino.

Why would you want to steal bags of plasma?


Sperm is where the money [shot] is.
 
2013-02-12 05:48:06 PM

mudpants: Popcorn Johnny: What are the odds that SWAT storms in to find an empty cabin?

THIS


Yep, then it blows up with Jeff Daniels still inside.
 
2013-02-12 05:48:07 PM
Breaking news from CNN:  Dorner just ruled against Obamacare.
 
2013-02-12 05:48:10 PM
He's in Big Bear - near Highway 38!

/reward please
 
2013-02-12 05:48:24 PM

mudpants: Popcorn Johnny: What are the odds that SWAT storms in to find an empty cabin?

THIS


9 SWAT members storm the cabin.  10 SWAT members leave.  No Dorner...  Mastermind!
 
2013-02-12 05:48:29 PM
So does he have hostages, or did he escape from the cabin? If he managed to do both of those things it would be legitimately impressive...
 
2013-02-12 05:48:39 PM

Peaceboy: So they told the media to cut all their live feeds.  Wonder if they remembered to tell this guy.

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It's 2013, damn it Google I demand a live Google Earth feed.
 
2013-02-12 05:48:43 PM

Great Janitor: I'm not expecting him to be captured until some time in May, and then in late September the next season can focus on his escape from prison.


If I have a problem, and if no one else can help, do you think I can hire him?
 
2013-02-12 05:48:55 PM
So this info from the authorities that he was in Mexico:  A diversion on their part to try to get him to think he could let his guard down there?
 
2013-02-12 05:48:59 PM

Msol: I'm hearing something about him stealing a cop car and escaping?


And now he's going to pull over an ice cream truck being driven by Zaibatsu!
 
2013-02-12 05:49:04 PM

KarmicDisaster: KellyKellyKelly: WHAR CHOPPER DUDE TRACY WHAR

/somewhat obscure

Yeah, we need him. He would inform the hell out of us.


"Well, shoot 'im if you're gonna shoot 'im!"
 
2013-02-12 05:49:11 PM

Msol: I'm hearing something about him stealing a cop car and escaping?


The movie about this is going to be farking epic.
 
2013-02-12 05:49:17 PM

ha-ha-guy: So, if LAPD kills a large black guy who isn't Dorner, is that progress since at least they had the right race?


AND because they are moving away from women...
 
2013-02-12 05:49:27 PM

Lenny_da_Hog: eddievercetti: Get Tommy Lee Jones, he knows a thing or two about fugitives!

I don't think so, SPORTO.


Man, that's hinkie.
 
2013-02-12 05:49:37 PM
ps3.mmgn.com

Time for a jet cheat code!
 
2013-02-12 05:49:53 PM
This thread has more internal drama than the news story.
 
2013-02-12 05:50:05 PM
If they actually do corner him in a cabin, I'm sure the cops will use a carefully measured approach to getting Donner out...

www.dvice.com
 
2013-02-12 05:50:09 PM
According to CNN the secretary of the Police Department has released a statement:

""We know where he is. He's in the area around LA and Big Bear and east, west, south and north somewhat."
 
2013-02-12 05:50:17 PM

TeDDD: Hrist: Felgraf: Hrist: It's clear at this point that no one matters to the LAPD but the LAPD. I hope he keeps evading them so the LAPD will mow a bunch of unarmed helpless civilians to show people who the REAL monster is here.

Uh, I'm pretty sure they're both monsters.

You know, what with his murder of a girl and her fiance soley due to their relation to a police officer he was pissed at.

/No, he hasn't admitted it.
//He just called the officer out by name in his manifesto, and stated he'd be killing the families of officers.
///Yes, the LAPD sucks and their handling of this is monstrous also.

Don't get me wrong, the guy is a huge dick.  But he is also right.  The LAPD is a bunch of corrupt dicks.  Corrupt dicks that can shoot you in the back of the head while you're handcuffed in the back of the squad car and have it called a suicide.  Corrupt dicks that can have you charged with murder because they kicked your door in and shot your two year old in the face, reasoning that if you hadn't lived at that address, they wouldn't have shot a child in the face when they got your address confused with that of a drug dealer.  Corrupt dicks that can beat you to death on live TV while you're unconscious on the ground and get away with it because they are judge jury and executioner.

I would trust this killer over the LAPD any day.  He only has what power he can take and inflict on others, but the LAPD has pretty much all the power they want.  It's like saying sure, Luke Skywalker is dangerous and kills Imperial troops for fun and profit, but in the end it's the Empire that's more likely to kill you or otherwise ruin your life.  Skywalker can only shoot you or run you through with a lightsaber, but the Empire can send you to the spice mines because you look funny.

I missed the part of Star Wars where Luke took a detour to Coruscant to kill some Stormtroopers' kid.  That must have really shown the Empire.

I get that you're trying to talk about relative levels of awful, but ...


I don't condone him murdering people at all, but we all know it would eventually come to this.  Deep down, somewhere in our minds.  The LAPD is too big to change.  It will never change by legal methods.  Remember that person from Kansas City that released those tapes and pictures showing the corruption of their prison system and police force?  Yeah, they ended up moving far far away and changing their identity because they didn't feel like they could remain in the area and not be murdered in the night.  No local news would report on it because they didn't want 'The Force' to come down on them.  It was covered up, it was hush hush, and no one talked about it.  This is how most places will deal with reports of corruption.  In the extreme case the FBI or so might get involved, it's easy to put on a pretty face and look good for a couple of days before going right back to your shiat.

My suggestion?  A Presidential task force assigned to root out and fix police corruption.  People with no connection whatsoever to who/what they'll be investigating.  People who are paid VERY well and who aren't afraid to break out some shovels and dig up that buried paperwork, or interview people at prisons, or put detectives and police captains and police chiefs in the interrogation room on the wrong side of the table.

This event is a warning.  Kind of like when you have to shiat really really bad and can usually tell by that first horrible fart.  That's what this is.  Right now it is only the underpants taking the brunt of the blow (no pun intended) but soon everything around you will be in danger if you don't get to the bathroom.  Just like with the last big school shooting spurring a rash of public and school shootings, this will spawn a bunch of 'me too' killers that have been wronged by the police and want revenge.

If you told me ten years ago that I would have some sympathy for a guy who runs around murdering cops because he was wronged by them I would have called bullshiat.  Now, with all the shiat I've heard in the past few years about police corruption, there is sympathy.  Just a little, but it's there.  Everyone that is injured here is a casualty of police corruption, not to mention countless people in the past who have been cops or have interacted with them.
 
2013-02-12 05:50:22 PM

BronyMedic: Satanic_Hamster: Translation:  LAPD is shooting random citizens again.

Yeah, no. They have him cornered after shooting two deputies.


Brony, it's not often that I disagree with you, but, given the LAPD's history (and I don't just mean this past week, which is horrifying in and of itself), I'll take actual DNA evidence--since we know that there's not a snowball's chance in a Nevada summer of Dorner ever coming out of this alive anyway--of the man in that cabin over the LAPD's "belief" that it is Dorner in that cabin. Until there is an actual, positive identification of the suspect barricaded in that cabin, I'll refer to the person as "suspect." LAPD responded to a report of burglary and car theft and later allegedly learned that there was a component of possible imprisonment of two individuals (who escaped) by a black suspect who we're told shot two deputies and barricaded himself in the cabin.

I don't need to tell you that eyewitness statements are unreliable as hell and that right now, California LEO statements regarding a black man with a gun are at least twice as suspect--particularly officers associated with the LAPD. I also don't need to tell any first responder (or hell, anyone who's seen Cops in the last 20 years) that criminals do dumb shiat--and breaking into a cabin, tying up the people in the cabin, stealing a truck, shooting cops, and the barricading yourself in a cabin once you're surrounded definitely qualifies a dumb shiat... and it doesn't require a mentally unstable man who, despite his instability does have a point that bears close examination regarding corruption in modern law enforcement, to do dumb shiat and take pot shots at cops. (Disclosure: I'm related to cops and have many close friends who are cops. Dorner is crazy, he deserves a trial, not to be gunned down, but he does have a valid point that being crazy does not negate.)
 
2013-02-12 05:50:29 PM

IRQ12: khyberkitsune: well 200+ cops getting ready to rock and roll that mountain.

Plus a bunker buster squad getting called in.

It would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't a bunch of thugs salivating at the chance to play tommy lee jones.  These guys love their pseudo combat zone where they have little to nothing to lose.


It's gonna be a lot more interesting when they find an empty cabin.

Not taking that CNN 'report' seriously.
 
2013-02-12 05:50:44 PM
Wolf talking a bunch of shiat now.
 
2013-02-12 05:50:51 PM
No live video. Welcome to the New America.
 
2013-02-12 05:51:15 PM

you are a puppet: Wolf talking a bunch of shiat now.


Just now?
 
2013-02-12 05:51:16 PM

I Said: Breaking: CNN now reporting that 12 Dorners are trapped in the mine, and 11 have survived

UPDATE: Only one Dorner has survivied


Were those the 12 Drones that were called in for 12 Dorners, or the Dozen Dahmers that were there for the Frozen Members?
 
2013-02-12 05:51:24 PM

Dixon Cider: natgod: where the hell did the LAPD get 1 million spare dollars to give out for information leading to dorner?  aren't they always short on cash and cops?  would people not turn dorner in for like 10k or, you know, free?

Donations


They sure as shiat aren't wasting money on firearms training...
 
2013-02-12 05:51:34 PM
"He's going to run out of ammunition.  Law enforcement is not."  (from 4NBC live stream)

Gee, thanks for that.  Not too many people would know that, except well, you know absolutely everybody alive.  Hard hitting journalism right there.
 
2013-02-12 05:51:38 PM

eddievercetti: Get Tommy Lee Jones, he knows a thing or two about fugitives!


"I don't care!!!!"

*Shoots black Rambo*
 
2013-02-12 05:51:42 PM
"This just in... Christopher Dorner sleeps nude in an oxygen tent that he believes gives him sexual powers."

"Hey, that's a half-truth!"
 
2013-02-12 05:51:43 PM

Aigoo: BronyMedic: Satanic_Hamster: Translation:  LAPD is shooting random citizens again.

Yeah, no. They have him cornered after shooting two deputies.

Brony, it's not often that I disagree with you, but, given the LAPD's history (and I don't just mean this past week, which is horrifying in and of itself), I'll take actual DNA evidence--since we know that there's not a snowball's chance in a Nevada summer of Dorner ever coming out of this alive anyway--of the man in that cabin over the LAPD's "belief" that it is Dorner in that cabin. Until there is an actual, positive identification of the suspect barricaded in that cabin, I'll refer to the person as "suspect." LAPD responded to a report of burglary and car theft and later allegedly learned that there was a component of possible imprisonment of two individuals (who escaped) by a black suspect who we're told shot two deputies and barricaded himself in the cabin.

I don't need to tell you that eyewitness statements are unreliable as hell and that right now, California LEO statements regarding a black man with a gun are at least twice as suspect--particularly officers associated with the LAPD. I also don't need to tell any first responder (or hell, anyone who's seen Cops in the last 20 years) that criminals do dumb shiat--and breaking into a cabin, tying up the people in the cabin, stealing a truck, shooting cops, and the barricading yourself in a cabin once you're surrounded definitely qualifies a dumb shiat... and it doesn't require a mentally unstable man who, despite his instability does have a point that bears close examination regarding corruption in modern law enforcement, to do dumb shiat and take pot shots at cops. (Disclosure: I'm related to cops and have many close friends who are cops. Dorner is crazy, he deserves a trial, not to be gunned down, but he does have a valid point that being crazy does not negate.)


The LAPD are not involved, Aigoo. This isn't even in Los Angeles County. It's in San Bernardino, and the SB County Sheriff Are handling the scene.
 
2013-02-12 05:51:54 PM
please put your hands in the yellow circles.
 
2013-02-12 05:52:05 PM

star_topology: fat_free: [www.wclt.com image 373x280]

This is the pick-up truck seen outside of Big Bear.

No no no no, you've got it all wrong. This is the bear seen (just) outside the big pickup truck:

[www.vaguebuttrue.com image 456x304]

/GIS "bear versus pickup truck" and look at the second result 0_o


Trying to go with the joke -- Big Bear was a supermarket chain around Columbus, OH, that went out of business about 10 years ago.  Their slogan was "That's my Bear!", which I just did a GIS of. Do yourself a favor and DON'T.
/nsfw
 
2013-02-12 05:52:10 PM

I Said: Breaking: CNN now reporting that 12 Dorners are trapped in the mine, and 11 have survived

UPDATE: Only one Dorner has survivied


BREAKING NEWS, a second Chris Dorner has just crashed into tower 2....
 
2013-02-12 05:52:35 PM
If this turns out NOT to be Dorner, I'm gonna sh*t myself laughing.
 
2013-02-12 05:52:50 PM

natgod: where the hell did the LAPD get 1 million spare dollars to give out for information leading to dorner?


It's apparently been raised by "private donations". Which means you apparently can now pay the police to kill someone for you.
 
2013-02-12 05:52:52 PM

badhatharry: No live video. Welcome to the New America.


Please...can't show the cops riddling him full of holes when he tries to surrender, unarmed and following instructions.
 
2013-02-12 05:52:54 PM

LessO2: you are a puppet: Wolf talking a bunch of shiat now.

Just now?


ha, I mean like in Starsky and Hutch when Owen Wilson says "I'm sorry did you just tough talk a dead body?" type of shiat. He was just laying into Dorner about how he "blathered" in his manifesto, there was nothing to his grievances, people thought he was smart but he wasn't, etc.
 
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