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2013-02-12 04:27:22 PM
Anyone who leaves a passive-aggressive note in lieu of a tip and skitters out is a coward. If the service was bad, have the balls to complain about it to the manager. Otherwise, you deserve to have your picture taken and posted on every host or hostess station in town so that they can turn you away.
 
2013-02-12 04:27:35 PM

RoxtarRyan: But let's be honest... unless you are busing the tables as well, serving and cooking the food yourself, you're paid to write an order down, and carry it 20 goddamn feet.


I don't think you've been a waiter.

RoxtarRyan: most people hate their jobs and feel as if they are underpaid


What do you do? Am I to assume I could do it the way a vast majority of people who have never tended bar or waited tables assume that they could do it? Could most of them do it well?

It's no secret that the bar is pretty low to get a job waiting tables. And there are plenty of restaurants that will continue to employ morons who don't care about their job.

There is real money to be made out there, and at the places where there is money to be made, it is very competitive indeed. The weak do not last. If you can multitask, keep your cool under pressure, stay organized, and have the personality to accommodate an ever changing clientele with their own unique standards and set of demands, you can make bank.
 
2013-02-12 04:29:07 PM

ChipNASA: Worse than that, an old salt I used to work with said in Korea, the officers had to pay for billeting (housing) out of their paycheck, because they got paid extra for it......even if they were living in a foxhole that they dug themselves. PRICLESS.


Officers still have to pay for their uniforms. They are given a one-time sum once they tack on, and after that, it is on them. But, as they saying goes, no one enlists to become rich.
 
2013-02-12 04:29:14 PM

Theaetetus: Anyone who leaves a passive-aggressive note in lieu of a tip and skitters out is a coward. If the service was bad, have the balls to complain about it to the manager. Otherwise, you deserve to have your picture taken and posted on every host or hostess station in town so that they can turn you away.


Also -- people who leave religious literature that looks like a $10.00 bill, because having Jesus Christ as your personal savior pays the rent.
 
2013-02-12 04:29:16 PM

Big Man On Campus: The only possible use for this thread is humor. MOAR PICS


How's this?

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2013-02-12 04:29:16 PM
Allow me to weigh in.
I'm a bartender.  I love my job so much I've been doing it for ten years.  I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it.  I make damn good money at what I do (somewhere in the range of 50k a year) in ARKANSAS.  So the money is not the problem.
The problem with paying people a set wage is that this country is too comfortable in its sense of entitlement.  The tip is typically incentive to do a little better than you would if they were paying you standard wages.  Is it a stupid concept?  fark yes it is.  I also hate the idea of "To Insure (Ensure but whatever) Proper Service."  No, you should do your best at whatever table your at or whatever job you have elected to take.
Now with that said, are tips appreciated?  Hell yes they are.  I'm very personable, very high energy, and rather knowledgeable about drinks, food, and dabble enough in other stuff to be able to keep up a conversation.  As a server (which I have also done) the dynamic is different and much less personal, which is why I see why servers feel so shafted on their end of the deal, but it happens.  Earn your stripes, get to know your clientele, or move on to another location.
At 30 the job has taken a small toll on me, but I get to work rather lax hours.  4pm to 2am, 4 days a week.  Life is pain...until I look at all my expensive toys I've been able to afford over the years.  If you are that worried about making rent and paying bills, budget money better.  I've gotten myself into some bad debt because of this line of work, and I managed to work my way out of it with DISCIPLINE.

Mind you, I'm also the outlier here.  Most people wait tables/tend bar as an in between style job until they get "something better."  I simply enjoy the atmosphere and the money I do make (the good days and the bad) enough to be completely satisfied working the job I do.

But never a corporate bar....fark corporate bars.
/Turned down management.
//It would have been a ~20k a year pay cut.
 
2013-02-12 04:29:40 PM
JesusJuice:

I never tip and neither should you.  It just perpetuates a broken system.

Want to know how I know you are an asshole?
 
2013-02-12 04:30:01 PM

gingerjet: Or guard patrol in Iraq.  At least you are in doors most of the time.  Or 75 hours a week months straight to make a development deadline.  I've never worked a service job in my life but I've fark'd enough waiters in my lifetime to know that waiting tables isn't the hardest job in the world.


It's a slacker job. There's rush times at conventional mealtimes, and a lot of waiting around otherwise. You don't have to learn much and you can blame your customers for their troubles.


Are people oafs? The majority of them are, both servers and customers.


Why do people keep working server jobs? It's better in their view than the alternative, which would require more commitment.


I'm not the biggest fan of jobs or "hard work" (usually bullshiat) but let's call it what it is. There's a reason they give these jobs to teenagers and the elderly. They're mentally easy jobs.
 
2013-02-12 04:30:18 PM
All the servers I know tend to go from one server job to the next because it is way they can make  a lot of money without requiring them to put in a lot of hours.  Sure it's hard work, and I'm not suggesting people shouldn't tip them, but most of the servers I know personally are doing alright for people who only put in 15-20 hours a week.
 
2013-02-12 04:30:24 PM
I believe tipping a server says much more about me and who I am than it does the server, I tip according to this belief.

The people who have the balls to write sh*tty messages to a server on the receipt ought to have their toenails pulled out and shoved into their eye sockets.
 
2013-02-12 04:32:17 PM
God I hate bad tippers.  I hate more so the fark assholes who say "if you don't like it, get a different job".  Fark you.

Let's talk about my favorite waitress Robin.  She waited tables to put her husband threw college.  She worked her ass off as an investment.  He graduated and got a good job.  Then she got pregnant so had to skip her turn for college.   Three kids later the husband leaves her.  Now she's middle aged, and a single mom.  She hasn't worked for 10 years because she was a stay at home mom.  So she goes back to being a waitress because that's one of the few jobs she can get.  So yeah, she should totally get a job as an investment broker instead of waitressing and stop biatching about not getting a tip.

The people who give waitresses the most shiat are usually the people who had the most privileged life. Daddy paid for college and they never had to wait a table in their life.  High on the list of shiatty tippers are the "good christians".  Those people are complete butt-wipes.

When I was poor, I tipped what I could.  It wasn't always what the waitress deserved, but it was the best I could do.  Now that I am successful, I alway overtip unless the service was absolutely horrible.

/I've never worked in a restaurant in my life, but I've worked some pretty shiatty jobs
 
2013-02-12 04:32:38 PM

blatz514: Big Man On Campus: The only possible use for this thread is humor. MOAR PICS

How's this?

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She gets 25% if she brings me the beer.
 
2013-02-12 04:32:39 PM

ChipNASA: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x218]


This picture: Winner of every tipping thread.  Anyone else using their puny words is just wasting their time.
 
2013-02-12 04:32:53 PM

TheSwissNavy: Only a white person would refer to $9/hour as "slave wages".  Slaves were generally paid a lot less, like, zero.

And it's not so simple that servers t make $2.65 an hour - if their tips don't bring their gross up to minimum wage,they are paid minimum wage. Which isn't much, but when the Democrats had control of Congress with a filibuster-proof Senate, and the Presidency, from July 2010 to January 2012, they didn't bother fixing this. Or anything.

/wanker


You obviously never heard of Blue Dog Democrats, have you?  They're Republicans who for some reason are Democrats.  They also held up a lot of things during that time.  One of them held up Obamacare for a long time due to his, and since your Repub you're going to have a hard time believing this one, strong anti-abortion stance.  Coupled with the overall spinelessness of the party in general, no not a lot got done.

And $9 an hour is not slave wages.  It's substance-level survival wages, with roommates depending on where you live.  I guess yeah, that is different.  So hey, I agree with you!  Ain't that something?
 
2013-02-12 04:33:07 PM

Wyldfire: Allow me to weigh in.
I'm a bartender.  I love my job so much I've been doing it for ten years.  I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it.  I make damn good money at what I do (somewhere in the range of 50k a year) in ARKANSAS.  So the money is not the problem.
The problem with paying people a set wage is that this country is too comfortable in its sense of entitlement.  The tip is typically incentive to do a little better than you would if they were paying you standard wages.  Is it a stupid concept?  fark yes it is.  I also hate the idea of "To Insure (Ensure but whatever) Proper Service."  No, you should do your best at whatever table your at or whatever job you have elected to take.
Now with that said, are tips appreciated?  Hell yes they are.  I'm very personable, very high energy, and rather knowledgeable about drinks, food, and dabble enough in other stuff to be able to keep up a conversation.  As a server (which I have also done) the dynamic is different and much less personal, which is why I see why servers feel so shafted on their end of the deal, but it happens.  Earn your stripes, get to know your clientele, or move on to another location.
At 30 the job has taken a small toll on me, but I get to work rather lax hours.  4pm to 2am, 4 days a week.  Life is pain...until I look at all my expensive toys I've been able to afford over the years.  If you are that worried about making rent and paying bills, budget money better.  I've gotten myself into some bad debt because of this line of work, and I managed to work my way out of it with DISCIPLINE.

Mind you, I'm also the outlier here.  Most people wait tables/tend bar as an in between style job until they get "something better."  I simply enjoy the atmosphere and the money I do make (the good days and the bad) enough to be completely satisfied working the job I do.

But never a corporate bar....fark corporate bars.
/Turned down management.
//It would have been a ~20k a year pay cut.


I was kind of down on myself for getting back into bar tending, but I'm lucky to have a skill to fall back on. I work 8 pm to 2 am 4-5 days a week and am pretty much in the same boat as you are. It's not a bad life. Not a lifetime career choice, sure, but certainly a good gig for a few years.
 
2013-02-12 04:35:14 PM
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For some of you HUMVEE drivers in this thread......

"I TIP BIG BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET LAID. "

/yeah, let me know how that works out for you......"shocker"......
 
2013-02-12 04:35:26 PM

kidgenius: NathanAllen:
Why don't we discuss the why the IRS uses 8% on sales volume to determine income?  Naturally you can claim less, but those tend to get flagged for review. For every 3% average above that 8% you get to keep an additional 1% of income as untaxed. This is a substantial unreported income that also is used by the propaganda machine to cry about how little servers make.

It's amazing how few people recognize that this is what goes on.

My wife used to work in a salon. I know how much she made and I know how much the government thinks she made.


This aint no lie.  I worked foodservice as a line cook for a few years out of high school.  We got paid better up front, but man, only the suckiest wait staff wasnt taking home more than we were.

Now, I can believe waiters have taken a pay hit over the last few years because its harder to hide tips on credit receipts, but, I also think most people using cards tend to tip a little more because it seems less real than throwing cash out.  It probably balances out to some extent.
 
2013-02-12 04:35:35 PM

Wyldfire: I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it.


Pretty much all psych majors "opt" to not use it after graduation.
 
2013-02-12 04:35:43 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: I don't think you've been a waiter.


You're right! I don't feel like walking around all day, being a "gopher" (gopher this, gopher that), while being paid a shiatty wage.

thismomentinblackhistory: What do you do?


Enlisted in the military, WMD specialist. Paid less than the civilians who work at the BX... As stated previously though, no one enlists to get rich. Want real money? Work at KBR doing trash detail in Kandahar. I met some 20-something kid who was paid nearly $100k/year for going around to the chow tents collecting trash. He made about 3.5x much as I did!
 
2013-02-12 04:37:30 PM
thismomentinblackhistory: I was kind of down on myself for getting back into bar tending, but I'm lucky to have a skill to fall back on. I work 8 pm to 2 am 4-5 days a week and am pretty much in the same boat as you are. It's not a bad life. Not a lifetime career choice, sure, but certainly a good gig for a few years.

Don't be down on yourself.  I'm just not an office drone.  Worked as a paralegal for six months...hated it.  Got into the whole therapist circle and realized that while it would have been a blast to try and help people cope with problems, most of the time I would be stuck with unwilling or court ordered clients.  This way I get to serve people who want to come in and unwind and then voluntarily discuss their problems.
I'm catering to my degree and still able to use my job of serving alcohol to support my habit of....drinking alcohol! :P
 
2013-02-12 04:37:40 PM
Person A and person B go to eat together.
Person A orders a $20 filet mignon.
Person B orders a $5 cheeseburger.
The server writes both orders down, punches it into the computer, then carries two plates of food to the table.  The work the server does for each person is identical.  Yet, person A is expected to pay more for the service than person B, even though the server did no additional work for person A.
 
2013-02-12 04:37:49 PM

thismomentinblackhistory: I was kind of down on myself for getting back into bar tending, but I'm lucky to have a skill to fall back on. I work 8 pm to 2 am 4-5 days a week and am pretty much in the same boat as you are. It's not a bad life. Not a lifetime career choice, sure, but certainly a good gig for a few years.


Dude, I was a bartender for about 15 yrs. then mngmt. I have left it behind, yes, but those years were some of the very best of my life. I've did things people only dream of. I've done shiat to make a porn star blush. I've seen things that would make an MMA guy wince.

I wouldnt trade it for the world, but I'm glad I'm out.
 
2013-02-12 04:38:00 PM

CaliNJGuy: Treygreen13: I tip, and I tip well.

But goddamnit I don't need a reminder about how much your job sucks.

farking amen!


The job doesn't suck until you get stiffed.
 
2013-02-12 04:39:14 PM

OgreMagi: God I hate bad tippers.  I hate more so the fark assholes who say "if you don't like it, get a different job".  Fark you.

Let's talk about my favorite waitress Robin.  She waited tables to put her husband threw college.  She worked her ass off as an investment.  He graduated and got a good job.  Then she got pregnant so had to skip her turn for college.   Three kids later the husband leaves her.  Now she's middle aged, and a single mom.  She hasn't worked for 10 years because she was a stay at home mom.  So she goes back to being a waitress because that's one of the few jobs she can get.  So yeah, she should totally get a job as an investment broker instead of waitressing and stop biatching about not getting a tip.

The people who give waitresses the most shiat are usually the people who had the most privileged life. Daddy paid for college and they never had to wait a table in their life.  High on the list of shiatty tippers are the "good christians".  Those people are complete butt-wipes.

When I was poor, I tipped what I could.  It wasn't always what the waitress deserved, but it was the best I could do.  Now that I am successful, I alway overtip unless the service was absolutely horrible.

/I've never worked in a restaurant in my life, but I've worked some pretty shiatty jobs


No offense, but you make it sound like "getting pregnant" was something beyond her control.
 
2013-02-12 04:39:45 PM

lennavan: Wyldfire: I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it.

Pretty much all psych majors "opt" to not use it after graduation.


If you're a bartender, you use your psych degree everyday.
 
2013-02-12 04:40:53 PM

OgreMagi: She waited tables to put her husband threw college. She worked her ass off as an investment. He graduated and got a good job. Then she got pregnant so had to skip her turn for college. Three kids later the husband leaves her. Now she's middle aged, and a single mom. She hasn't worked for 10 years because she was a stay at home mom. So she goes back to being a waitress because that's one of the few jobs she can get. So yeah, she should totally get alimony  a job as an investment broker instead of waitressing and stop biatching about not getting a tip.


That's the entire farking point of alimony.
 
2013-02-12 04:41:50 PM
Ok, my .02. I tip and tip well, if I can't afford to eat out, then I don't. That bieng said, My sister is a bartender at a country club, and makes a shiat ton of cash.
 
2013-02-12 04:41:57 PM
Here's a brilliant idea, pay them minimum wage and customers can tip $2-$5 extra if they feel like it. If McDonald's can afford to pay their workers minimum wage, Olive Garden can too without jacking up the price of noodles and sauce.
 
2013-02-12 04:43:12 PM

Madbassist1: Dude, I was a bartender for about 15 yrs.


I loved tending bar. It was better than working the floor to be sure.
 
2013-02-12 04:45:44 PM
Tip.
 
2013-02-12 04:47:27 PM
TL,DR

Waiting tables isn't hard, so get off your soap box and get a real job.

/Has waited tables in 3 different restaurants
//Always leaves 20% tip, because real math is hard
 
2013-02-12 04:47:43 PM

megarian: Tip.


Just the tip.  To see how it feels.
 
2013-02-12 04:48:09 PM

stonicus: Person A and person B go to eat together.
Person A orders a $20 filet mignon.
Person B orders a $5 cheeseburger.
The server writes both orders down, punches it into the computer, then carries two plates of food to the table.  The work the server does for each person is identical.  Yet, person A is expected to pay more for the service than person B, even though the server did no additional work for person A.


If part of the tip goes to the chef, then it makes a little more sense.
 
2013-02-12 04:49:51 PM

stonicus: Person A and person B go to eat together.
Person A orders a $20 filet mignon.
Person B orders a $5 cheeseburger.
The server writes both orders down, punches it into the computer, then carries two plates of food to the table.  The work the server does for each person is identical.  Yet, person A is expected to pay more for the service than person B, even though the server did no additional work for person A.


People who buy filet mignon are classier. Being classy is expensive.
 
2013-02-12 04:51:58 PM
A whole thread full of Jennifer Lopez caliber diners. Hey, if you pretend to knock your silverware off the table as they walk by, you can fart in their face when they stoop to pick it up.
 
2013-02-12 04:52:01 PM
Why is it that the server who gets $6.50 an hour deserves a tip for dealing with your bullshiat, but the sales associate at a department story, who gets $7.40 an hour, doesn't deserve a tip for dealing with MORE of your bullshiat and often for a longer period of time?

And more to the point, why does the server get a tip when it's the busboy and dishwasher who deal with the nasty part of the job?

I'm all for just changing the whole system so servers get a higher wage and tipping is no longer compulsory.
 
2013-02-12 04:52:12 PM

OgreMagi: megarian: Tip.

Just the tip.  To see how it feels.


Exaaaaaaactly.
 
2013-02-12 04:53:05 PM
Oops. Department store.
 
2013-02-12 04:55:03 PM

megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: Tip.

Just the tip.  To see how it feels.

Exaaaaaaactly.


I'm curious.  Are there guys who actually try this line on women?  And are there women who fall for it?

/addresses of the women would be useful
//for research purposes
 
2013-02-12 04:55:05 PM

lennavan: It's your first time to this particular restaurant.  You look around, the place is packed.  Heck, it seems as if it has been packed all day.  But you're hungry, your wife doesn't want to drive around and you heard this place has good food so you walk up to where the hostess is supposed to be to put your name in.  But she's not there.  So you stand around and wait until she finally comes back.  After glancing at her list of names, she tells you 15-20 minutes.  Really she knows it will be more like 45 minutes but she doesn't want customers to leave so she fudges the numbers.

You look around, there's just a single bench for seating in the waiting area and it's occupied.  Some people are packed in like sardines in the inside waiting area but most people are waiting outside in the cold, so you follow suit.  After 30 minutes you ask the hostess how much longer.  She says any minute now.  Another 15 minutes go by waiting, standing outside in the cold.  Your feet hurt and you're cold but your name gets called so you go get seated.

You sit at your table with your wife and wait.  It takes your waitress 15 minutes before she bothers to come by and introduce herself.  Your waitress has 42 other people to take care of, a full load.  You're just 5% of her work load and boy does she ever treat you like it.  She says "Hi, my name is, and I'll be your server, can I get you some drinks?"   Well you order your drinks but it's another 10 minutes before she bothers to bring them out.  When you do get your drinks, they should have come with a warning - drink slowly.  There's no chance she'll notice your drink is empty and when you ask for a refill, that's another 10 minute wait.  Somewhere around 20 minutes after you sat down the waitress asks if you're ready to order.  Yeah, we were ready 15 minutes ago, where were you?  When the food comes, it's terrible.  Turns out the cook is new and keeps screwing up orders.  The waitress knows it.  You asked specifically for no nuts because you'r ...



Welcome to the "Green 3" favorites team.
 
2013-02-12 04:55:34 PM

ZeroCorpse: Why is it that the server who gets $6.50 an hour deserves a tip for dealing with your bullshiat, but the sales associate at a department story, who gets $7.40 an hour, doesn't deserve a tip for dealing with MORE of your bullshiat and often for a longer period of time?


Traditionally department stores gave employees commissions on sales.
 
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2013-02-12 04:57:06 PM

stonicus: shaunmark: They should start a game show on this. Hidden cameras. If the waiter claims the exact amount they make on tips and report it correctly to the manager, they get a huge bonus/raise/promotion, etc. If they lie, they get arrested for tax fraud.

I just want to see a lot of people get arrested.

Every server in the US would be in jail.


Go on....
 
2013-02-12 04:57:43 PM

kidgenius: First, doesn't matter a table of 8 didn't leave a tip.  Gratuity is almost always enforced on tables of 6 or 8.  Second, most restaurants have "bussers" that clear the tables, not waiters...


If that's the case you have to tip them out.

fastfxr: Sorry...can't stand people whining about something they have 100% power to change.


I'm sure there are lots of single mothers and students that would love to find jobs that meet their financial needs w/out having to deal with all the assholes being a server or bartender necessitates.

Also no matter the industry you tip misers currently feel masters of that allows you the absence of empathy you're showing toward a big group of people that do work very hard just remember you will age.  You will become less desirable and your skill set will become obsolete.  There will be a point that you might need the goodwill of strangers and I hope the universe pays you back for your lack of generosity to those less fortunate.

I can afford to tip well.  When I do the smile on the person's face often makes me feel like I've made their day a little better.  Who wouldn't give a few bucks to make someone's awful day a little bit better?  What kind of person does that make you?

And if you're unwilling to provide the customary 15%-20% tip to your server you likely should get carry out or just eat at home.

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2013-02-12 05:01:11 PM

Giant Clown Shoe: Also no matter the industry you tip misers currently feel masters of that allows you the absence of empathy you're showing toward a big group of people that do work very hard just remember you will age. You will become less desirable and your skill set will become obsolete. There will be a point that you might need the goodwill of strangers and I hope the universe pays you back for your lack of generosity to those less fortunate.


I dont see my skillset becoming obsolete in my lifetime, but you know what? I realize how lucky I am and I tip like a motherfarker.
 
2013-02-12 05:02:06 PM

Giant Clown Shoe: Who wouldn't give a few bucks to make someone's awful day a little bit better? What kind of person does that make you?


Bums are exempt from this philosophy, I hope.
 
2013-02-12 05:02:27 PM
I'd rather see waitstaff simply paid a liveable wage and the cost of their salary factored into the cost of their product just like every other industry works. It's less humiliating for the waitstaff who no longer have to beg their customers for scraps to survive and it means I don't have to do any math at the end of the night when I'm drunk. Tipping should be an obsolete practice.
 
2013-02-12 05:04:19 PM
Here's how things went last night in a restaurant we go to almost weekly.

Waiter:  Hello guys, I'm going off shift, but I'll make sure [waiter] has you covered.  You want a mojito, right?
Me: Yep
Friend:  And I'll have an ice tea.
about three minutes go by
New Waiter:  Here's your mojito and ice tea.  Do you need more time or are you ready to order:
Friend:  I'm ready.
Me: I'm ready.
We place orders
Several minutes go by, the appetizer arrives.
Another 10 minutes go by, the food arrives.
There were no issues until the very end when the waiter was stuck at a table with some slow people so couldn't pick up the credit card and process the order.  It wasn't his fault.  The people were that stupid in trying to order.

We left a proper tip.
 
2013-02-12 05:08:24 PM

The Shatner Incident: kvinesknows: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If you can't afford to tip, there's no one to blame except yourself. Also, if you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going to any restaurant that doesn't offer a meal for children with a toy included.

if you cant afford to work without tips.  Dont work a job that depends on them

Enjoy the spit and dickcheese in your food the next time you come in, dude. Servers don't forget pieces of self-important shiat who barely get in the door without tripping on their own egos.

/not condoning it
//but I understand


did I say I dont tip?
 
2013-02-12 05:10:09 PM
I think everyone should be required to work a year or two at some service industry type job.  It gives you a lot of perspective.  I also think people who have only worked as waitstaff and constantly complain about how hard it is/how little it pays should have to work as a cashier, retail slug, or some other type of minimum wage job that isn't tipped.
 
2013-02-12 05:12:07 PM

super_grass: Yay, tipping thread!

Remember kids, waiters are the hardest working people on the planet.  Without them, society would come to a grinding halt!


Totally! They deserve to be paid the salaries of professional athletes, millions a year....because without them we'd have to serve ourselves like most people in the world do anyway.

/screw servers
//your tip is find a different job and quit whining
 
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