RoxtarRyan: But let's be honest... unless you are busing the tables as well, serving and cooking the food yourself, you're paid to write an order down, and carry it 20 goddamn feet.
RoxtarRyan: most people hate their jobs and feel as if they are underpaid
ChipNASA: Worse than that, an old salt I used to work with said in Korea, the officers had to pay for billeting (housing) out of their paycheck, because they got paid extra for it......even if they were living in a foxhole that they dug themselves. PRICLESS.
Theaetetus: Anyone who leaves a passive-aggressive note in lieu of a tip and skitters out is a coward. If the service was bad, have the balls to complain about it to the manager. Otherwise, you deserve to have your picture taken and posted on every host or hostess station in town so that they can turn you away.
Big Man On Campus: The only possible use for this thread is humor. MOAR PICS
gingerjet: Or guard patrol in Iraq. At least you are in doors most of the time. Or 75 hours a week months straight to make a development deadline. I've never worked a service job in my life but I've fark'd enough waiters in my lifetime to know that waiting tables isn't the hardest job in the world.
blatz514: Big Man On Campus: The only possible use for this thread is humor. MOAR PICSHow's this?[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 184x275]
ChipNASA: [25.media.tumblr.com image 500x218]
TheSwissNavy: Only a white person would refer to $9/hour as "slave wages". Slaves were generally paid a lot less, like, zero.And it's not so simple that servers t make $2.65 an hour - if their tips don't bring their gross up to minimum wage,they are paid minimum wage. Which isn't much, but when the Democrats had control of Congress with a filibuster-proof Senate, and the Presidency, from July 2010 to January 2012, they didn't bother fixing this. Or anything./wanker
Wyldfire: Allow me to weigh in.I'm a bartender. I love my job so much I've been doing it for ten years. I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it. I make damn good money at what I do (somewhere in the range of 50k a year) in ARKANSAS. So the money is not the problem.The problem with paying people a set wage is that this country is too comfortable in its sense of entitlement. The tip is typically incentive to do a little better than you would if they were paying you standard wages. Is it a stupid concept? fark yes it is. I also hate the idea of "To Insure (Ensure but whatever) Proper Service." No, you should do your best at whatever table your at or whatever job you have elected to take.Now with that said, are tips appreciated? Hell yes they are. I'm very personable, very high energy, and rather knowledgeable about drinks, food, and dabble enough in other stuff to be able to keep up a conversation. As a server (which I have also done) the dynamic is different and much less personal, which is why I see why servers feel so shafted on their end of the deal, but it happens. Earn your stripes, get to know your clientele, or move on to another location.At 30 the job has taken a small toll on me, but I get to work rather lax hours. 4pm to 2am, 4 days a week. Life is pain...until I look at all my expensive toys I've been able to afford over the years. If you are that worried about making rent and paying bills, budget money better. I've gotten myself into some bad debt because of this line of work, and I managed to work my way out of it with DISCIPLINE.Mind you, I'm also the outlier here. Most people wait tables/tend bar as an in between style job until they get "something better." I simply enjoy the atmosphere and the money I do make (the good days and the bad) enough to be completely satisfied working the job I do.But never a corporate bar....fark corporate bars./Turned down management.//It would have been a ~20k a year pay cut.
kidgenius: NathanAllen:Why don't we discuss the why the IRS uses 8% on sales volume to determine income? Naturally you can claim less, but those tend to get flagged for review. For every 3% average above that 8% you get to keep an additional 1% of income as untaxed. This is a substantial unreported income that also is used by the propaganda machine to cry about how little servers make.It's amazing how few people recognize that this is what goes on.My wife used to work in a salon. I know how much she made and I know how much the government thinks she made.
Wyldfire: I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it.
thismomentinblackhistory: I don't think you've been a waiter.
thismomentinblackhistory: What do you do?
thismomentinblackhistory: I was kind of down on myself for getting back into bar tending, but I'm lucky to have a skill to fall back on. I work 8 pm to 2 am 4-5 days a week and am pretty much in the same boat as you are. It's not a bad life. Not a lifetime career choice, sure, but certainly a good gig for a few years.
CaliNJGuy: Treygreen13: I tip, and I tip well.But goddamnit I don't need a reminder about how much your job sucks.farking amen!
OgreMagi: God I hate bad tippers. I hate more so the fark assholes who say "if you don't like it, get a different job". Fark you.Let's talk about my favorite waitress Robin. She waited tables to put her husband threw college. She worked her ass off as an investment. He graduated and got a good job. Then she got pregnant so had to skip her turn for college. Three kids later the husband leaves her. Now she's middle aged, and a single mom. She hasn't worked for 10 years because she was a stay at home mom. So she goes back to being a waitress because that's one of the few jobs she can get. So yeah, she should totally get a job as an investment broker instead of waitressing and stop biatching about not getting a tip.The people who give waitresses the most shiat are usually the people who had the most privileged life. Daddy paid for college and they never had to wait a table in their life. High on the list of shiatty tippers are the "good christians". Those people are complete butt-wipes.When I was poor, I tipped what I could. It wasn't always what the waitress deserved, but it was the best I could do. Now that I am successful, I alway overtip unless the service was absolutely horrible./I've never worked in a restaurant in my life, but I've worked some pretty shiatty jobs
lennavan: Wyldfire: I have a degree (psychology) but opt to not use it.Pretty much all psych majors "opt" to not use it after graduation.
OgreMagi: She waited tables to put her husband threw college. She worked her ass off as an investment. He graduated and got a good job. Then she got pregnant so had to skip her turn for college. Three kids later the husband leaves her. Now she's middle aged, and a single mom. She hasn't worked for 10 years because she was a stay at home mom. So she goes back to being a waitress because that's one of the few jobs she can get. So yeah, she should totally get alimony a job as an investment broker instead of waitressing and stop biatching about not getting a tip.
Madbassist1: Dude, I was a bartender for about 15 yrs.
stonicus: Person A and person B go to eat together.Person A orders a $20 filet mignon.Person B orders a $5 cheeseburger.The server writes both orders down, punches it into the computer, then carries two plates of food to the table. The work the server does for each person is identical. Yet, person A is expected to pay more for the service than person B, even though the server did no additional work for person A.
OgreMagi: megarian: Tip.Just the tip. To see how it feels.
megarian: OgreMagi: megarian: Tip.Just the tip. To see how it feels.Exaaaaaaactly.
lennavan: It's your first time to this particular restaurant. You look around, the place is packed. Heck, it seems as if it has been packed all day. But you're hungry, your wife doesn't want to drive around and you heard this place has good food so you walk up to where the hostess is supposed to be to put your name in. But she's not there. So you stand around and wait until she finally comes back. After glancing at her list of names, she tells you 15-20 minutes. Really she knows it will be more like 45 minutes but she doesn't want customers to leave so she fudges the numbers.You look around, there's just a single bench for seating in the waiting area and it's occupied. Some people are packed in like sardines in the inside waiting area but most people are waiting outside in the cold, so you follow suit. After 30 minutes you ask the hostess how much longer. She says any minute now. Another 15 minutes go by waiting, standing outside in the cold. Your feet hurt and you're cold but your name gets called so you go get seated.You sit at your table with your wife and wait. It takes your waitress 15 minutes before she bothers to come by and introduce herself. Your waitress has 42 other people to take care of, a full load. You're just 5% of her work load and boy does she ever treat you like it. She says "Hi, my name is, and I'll be your server, can I get you some drinks?" Well you order your drinks but it's another 10 minutes before she bothers to bring them out. When you do get your drinks, they should have come with a warning - drink slowly. There's no chance she'll notice your drink is empty and when you ask for a refill, that's another 10 minute wait. Somewhere around 20 minutes after you sat down the waitress asks if you're ready to order. Yeah, we were ready 15 minutes ago, where were you? When the food comes, it's terrible. Turns out the cook is new and keeps screwing up orders. The waitress knows it. You asked specifically for no nuts because you'r ...
ZeroCorpse: Why is it that the server who gets $6.50 an hour deserves a tip for dealing with your bullshiat, but the sales associate at a department story, who gets $7.40 an hour, doesn't deserve a tip for dealing with MORE of your bullshiat and often for a longer period of time?
stonicus: shaunmark: They should start a game show on this. Hidden cameras. If the waiter claims the exact amount they make on tips and report it correctly to the manager, they get a huge bonus/raise/promotion, etc. If they lie, they get arrested for tax fraud.I just want to see a lot of people get arrested.Every server in the US would be in jail.
kidgenius: First, doesn't matter a table of 8 didn't leave a tip. Gratuity is almost always enforced on tables of 6 or 8. Second, most restaurants have "bussers" that clear the tables, not waiters...
fastfxr: Sorry...can't stand people whining about something they have 100% power to change.
Giant Clown Shoe: Also no matter the industry you tip misers currently feel masters of that allows you the absence of empathy you're showing toward a big group of people that do work very hard just remember you will age. You will become less desirable and your skill set will become obsolete. There will be a point that you might need the goodwill of strangers and I hope the universe pays you back for your lack of generosity to those less fortunate.
Giant Clown Shoe: Who wouldn't give a few bucks to make someone's awful day a little bit better? What kind of person does that make you?
The Shatner Incident: kvinesknows: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If you can't afford to tip, there's no one to blame except yourself. Also, if you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going to any restaurant that doesn't offer a meal for children with a toy included.if you cant afford to work without tips. Dont work a job that depends on themEnjoy the spit and dickcheese in your food the next time you come in, dude. Servers don't forget pieces of self-important shiat who barely get in the door without tripping on their own egos./not condoning it//but I understand
super_grass: Yay, tipping thread!Remember kids, waiters are the hardest working people on the planet. Without them, society would come to a grinding halt!
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