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2013-02-12 04:05:14 PM  

johnny_vegas: Jesus (no pun intended), what a poster child for a cheap, entitlement snowflake.


As opposed to the entitled snowflakes who feel they should be paid extra money for merely doing the job for which they are employed?
 
2013-02-12 04:05:59 PM  
Man these stories make me want to stop tipping. But I won't, because I'm not an asshole.

You servers who love to biatch so much should go get a job delivering furniture or hot tubs sometime. You get to carry heavy shiat all day and help morons move their old heavy shiat out of the way so their new heavy shiat will have somewhere to go. When you are finally done, you get to leave without a tip because it isn't like you had to do anything difficult like bringing them some drinks or a god damned pizza.
 
2013-02-12 04:06:17 PM  
hmm, the most i've EVER worked in my life was as a Staff Sgt back in 2007. we were pulling 12 hr shifts every day of the working week for over 6 months to adjust for squadron 'reorganization' (another way of saying that they decided our squadron could do with 50 guys what it used to do with 180). That worked out to a bit more than 9 bucks an hour for a job that most people needed a 4 year degree to even think about doing.

Not too shabby, the work itself wasnt strenuous. What made the job suck was dealing with other servicemember jerkoffs who didnt appreciate that we used the metric system in all our data or that we had to conform to an incredibly tight schedule and thus couldnt entertain their mickey mouse questions for 20 minutes because fark off dude, i got 6 other active duty bases, 5 airfields and 11 county agencies to deal with every 30 minutes.
 
2013-02-12 04:06:18 PM  

lennavan: thismomentinblackhistory: lennavan: thismomentinblackhistory: If you don't tip, we usually start slow -- we'll make a comment or stop opening your beer.

I always get a kick out of bartenders specifically.  You opened a beer, so clearly you deserve $1.

No need to kick me out.  If a bartender ever commented on not getting a tip for opening a beer, I'd leave.  The place is clearly run by assholes.

I'm serving the guy who leaves a dollar every time first, and the guy who never leaves a dollar last. The guy who leaves one here and there doesn't even pop up on my radar. Bottled beer drinkers take 5 seconds to serve. The fact that they leave so quickly and ask so little of you can be tip enough.

I wouldn't blame you for serving the guy who tips more first.  It's funny that now you agree with me though.  Your original post seemed to suggest you make a comment to someone who doesn't tip for every beer.


No, but it has happened before. But like I said in another comment, most of the time we're too busy to notice. Any time I see someone throw down a tip, I thank them. I also try to remember what they look like. I'm assuming they're leaving it for a reason. I think I owe them to try even harder to get to them first if they're tipping.
 
2013-02-12 04:06:30 PM  

yelmrog: thismomentinblackhistory: diabloninja: I refuse to tip for bad or average service, and I won't go back because I know people like that are petty, immature children who would spit in someone's food because the last time they dined, the server didn't get what they wanted.

I've worked in restaurants and bars my whole life. I had a few real jobs in there, but when those fall through (got downsized last year), it's a good skill to fall back on. I have NEVER seen someone's food messed with. There is nothing a customer can do to warrant that. Maybe armed robbery -- but then again, they'd be armed.

Yeah pretty much this.  Stories of bad things happening to food are greatly exaggerated, in my opinion.  The worst thing I ever saw happen while working in restaurants was when a real dick of a customer sent a steak back twice (he wanted it well-done and claimed that it wasn't done enough) and the cook plopped it in the deep-fryer for thirty seconds and then put it in the microwave for an additional minute.

Of course, after that the dude said it was awesome.


I will have to try that. Sounds interesting.
 
2013-02-12 04:06:45 PM  

Solid State Vittles: fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?

Go ask Japan, Australia, Sweden, and all of those other socialist cesspools.


WTF does that have to do with restaurants paying their employees a decent wage?
 
2013-02-12 04:06:47 PM  
I avoid all waitresses and waiters.  I eat at the bar and tip my bartender.  Two birds, ect. ect.
 
2013-02-12 04:08:48 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Madbassist1: thismomentinblackhistory: Ladeeda: Get a job that pays at least minimum wage?  I would not work any job that paid $2.65 an hour.

You can make $750-$1200 in cash (tax free if you want) working 5 days a week where I work. It's legalized drug dealing. Paychecks? Those are those pieces of paper I forget to take to the bank.

LOL you dont bother to cash your check, but throw people out for not tipping you for a beer. You're a goddamned genius, Gump.

The point is that the base wage doesn't really matter. I'm not driving 30 minutes to deposit $70 bucks or something. I'll wait until I have 3 or 4 of them. No, you don't automatically get kicked out for not tipping. We're too busy to even notice most of the time. But if you mark yourself as a consistent non-tipper, you won't need AA to quit drinking at our bar. You're just dead to us.


I realize you were being hyperbolic. I was having a little fun at your expense. I also dont think youre an asshole as far as that goes. You're actually my type of bartender. My minimum tip? 10 bucks. If I spend more than 30 dollars, the tip goes up to 20. if I spend more than $100 its a 30% tip. Why? When I walk in my bar, my drinks are waiting on me, The bartenders know my name, and I get servered first...except for the one bartender who is always talking to her boyfriend, who sits at the end of the bar and never buys shiat. I still tip her well though.
 
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2013-02-12 04:08:50 PM  

diabloninja: johnny_vegas: Jesus (no pun intended), what a poster child for a cheap, entitlement snowflake.

As opposed to the entitled snowflakes who feel they should be paid extra money for merely doing the job for which they are employed?


And more to the point, for doing a job for me that I'd be more than happy to do myself.  I've been to Panera Bread before.  Carrying a plate of food to my table is 7 seconds of inconvenience that I'm more than able to tolerate.
 
2013-02-12 04:08:56 PM  
Stimpy's new tooth:
Thanks a lot to those of you who have the class to take care of those who take care of you!!  And to the rest of you, I hope someone puts Visine in your rum and coke.

That can be deadly

I always tip. I make very little money right now but if I go out to eat I budget the tip too.
 
2013-02-12 04:09:24 PM  
I almost always tip 20%, if a server is leaving, especially a bar tender I tip them out to the point they are at in the bill or the meal. If you are a really lousy server I will tip 10-15% BUT I will probably never come back to the place again. I don't want the guilt of shorting someone and trying to slink out before they see it. I will pay once and vanish forever if it really is bad all the way around but I really have never had a terrible experience where it was ALL the server's fault. Usually the food isn't ready or done correctly and thats generally not their fault. I tip well or over-tip at places I like because when I come back a second time (or 200th time) I want them to know its going to go well for them, I will get treated like a king and they will likely remember my drink order in detail and/or get to me quickly. I am competing for their time with other guests and I want the advantage or at least a level playing field. I know, like most people, these jobs are tough and bullying a server financially is just pathetic. I think people who don't tip are acting like they have power over someone for once in their life and their first instinct is to torture the poor person. Its like the vicious prison guard mentality and thats some toxic karma to be dragging around.

The other approach is you think you are a judge on the waiter/bartender version of American Idol and you waste your time trying to ultra-fine-tune the tip like you know everything they are up against and your picky-ass criteria matters. Either tip the servers for the work appropriately or don't go to the place.
 
2013-02-12 04:10:01 PM  

lennavan: I wouldn't blame you for serving the guy who tips more first. It's funny that now you agree with me though. Your original post seemed to suggest you make a comment to someone who doesn't tip for every beer.


Yeah I need to walk that comment back.

It's more like: "Hey, see that dude in the red cap? He left $4 on two captains and coke." And that guy is now first in line whenever he comes back.

And on the flipside: "Did that bald guy tip you? He didn't get me the last round either. He can wait." People will just leave on their own.

When we kick people out for not tipping it's because it's not the kind of people we want there anyway (super ghetto thugs or frat boys, mostly).
 
2013-02-12 04:10:02 PM  
I love this thread. This is the best ego boost I could have hoped for today. For all my faults, negative qualities and questionable life history, self loathing and general cynicism, at least...

...at least I'm not one of you miserable, god awful, non tipping people. Seriously. You people are the lowest of the low. I wouldn't heimlich your ass if I saw you choking.
 
2013-02-12 04:11:13 PM  

Madbassist1: You're actually my type of bartender. My minimum tip? 10 bucks. If I spend more than 30 dollars, the tip goes up to 20. if I spend more than $100 its a 30% tip. Why? When I walk in my bar, my drinks are waiting on me, The bartenders know my name, and I get servered first...except for the one bartender who is always talking to her boyfriend, who sits at the end of the bar and never buys shiat. I still tip her well though.


You're my kind of customer -- the kind I make sure to include when I feel like doing a shot!
 
2013-02-12 04:11:28 PM  

Kanemano: No one thinks about the dishwasher, he there before the servers show up and he's there when they leave, he makes no tips, but he still has to pay rent, gets truly minimum wage with nothing extra except a sandwich at the end of the night.

where is his essay?


Also, no one thinks about the kitchen staff.  At the end of the night, what's more important?  The person who cooked your food, or the person who carried it to your table?
 
2013-02-12 04:11:43 PM  

Taima: Wow, what a bunch of cheap bastards in this thread.  Is giving a few extra bucks to your server (or person from another service profession) really going to hurt you?   If so, then who really needs to get another job?


The law is very gray in my area. Saying that you have no money and can't afford rent and your back is killing you and asking me for a donation so you an pay your rent is too close to "pan handling" for me to feel comfortable giving you money. If you have to beg for a living, then there are many decent local organizations who will help you get a leg up.
 
2013-02-12 04:11:44 PM  

neongoats: I love this thread. This is the best ego boost I could have hoped for today. For all my faults, negative qualities and questionable life history, self loathing and general cynicism, at least...

...at least I'm not one of you miserable, god awful, non tipping people. Seriously. You people are the lowest of the low. I wouldn't heimlich your ass if I saw you choking.


hehe
 
2013-02-12 04:12:37 PM  

umad: Man these stories make me want to stop tipping. But I won't, because I'm not an asshole.

You servers who love to biatch so much should go get a job delivering furniture or hot tubs sometime. You get to carry heavy shiat all day and help morons move their old heavy shiat out of the way so their new heavy shiat will have somewhere to go. When you are finally done, you get to leave without a tip because it isn't like you had to do anything difficult like bringing them some drinks or a god damned pizza.


This makes me feel bad but I've never used movers, but I would definitely tip a mover. I tip the tow truck guy. Does that count?
 
2013-02-12 04:13:32 PM  

fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?


Try anywhere in the world except America.
 
2013-02-12 04:13:47 PM  
I bet the servers that complain the loudest about "bad tippers" are the same ones who rationalize not declaring their tips as taxable income.
 
2013-02-12 04:13:47 PM  

lennavan: The My Little Pony Killer: lennavan: The My Little Pony Killer: lennavan: It's your first time to this particular restaurant.  You look around, the place is packed.  Heck, it seems as if it has been packed all day.

Stopped reading here.  Tell your wife to stuff it and take her to McDonald's.  You knew going into it your service was going to be lacking.

The very first sentence FTFA:

It's your fourth shift in a row at the restaurant, all doubles because you only make $2.65 an hour and need to pay for rent and heat and electricity, and your section is a set of booths and tables - six four-tops, four two-tops, one eight-top - that seat forty-four customers total, and it's been packed from start to finish

Did you stop reading TFA right there and tell this server to shut it about the tips because she should know her service was lacking?

Explain to me how it's the server's fault that people come to the restaurant in hordes?  Or that you chose to eat at their particular restaurant when you could clearly see that they were hit hard by a rush?

Explain to me how it's the customer's fault that the restaurant gave the waitress more tables than she could handle well enough to give decent service.

Holy fark dude, you're arguing it's the customer's fault they got shiatty service because they ... ate there.


Obviously the solution is for everyone to stop going to restaurants.  Then the servers won't have to complain anymore about being too busy.
 
2013-02-12 04:13:52 PM  

TheSwissNavy: Only a white person would refer to $9/hour as "slave wages". Slaves were generally paid a lot less, like, zero.


You know what, I bet your white and generally well off, and are just using this non sequitur as an excuse to disparage people who are paid less than you are.
 
2013-02-12 04:14:41 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Publikwerks: and I think that tipping 15-20% is well worth it to live in a world where I don't have to inspect my food for contaminants or be asked not to return.

Plus the fact he's not making people pay to serve him.

You know, JesusJuice, your little one man rant against a system that you think is broken does little more than make you a dickhead. Funny how you expect to be treated better than the others you interact with too.


Making?  Nobody's making anybody do anything.  You're free to quit if you refuse to serve me, and you're free to try to find a better job.  If $3 an hour is what you're worth, then that's what you should get.  I shouldn't have to pay more because you didn't study hard enough in school.

Don't like it?  Find a new job, go back to school, or be homeless.  Your livelihood is not my responsibility just because you walked some food out to me.
 
2013-02-12 04:16:32 PM  

WhippingBoy: I bet the servers that complain the loudest about "bad tippers" are the same ones who rationalize not declaring their tips as taxable income.


Honestly, I've never met one that didn't rationalize not declaring their cash tips as income.
 
2013-02-12 04:17:02 PM  
If you can't afford to tip, there's no one to blame except yourself. Also, if you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going to any restaurant that doesn't offer a meal for children with a toy included.
 
2013-02-12 04:17:40 PM  
"COUGH UP A BUCK, YA CHEAP BASTID!"

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2013-02-12 04:18:14 PM  

This Looks Fun: WhippingBoy: I bet the servers that complain the loudest about "bad tippers" are the same ones who rationalize not declaring their tips as taxable income.

Honestly, I've never met one that didn't rationalize not declaring their cash tips as income.


God forbid the working man have a loophole or two.
 
2013-02-12 04:18:25 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Stimpy's new tooth: If you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out. Stay home.

People mock bar tenders and servers as being uneducated service monkeys that could be replaced by robots who are too dumb to make real money, yet at the same time, these captains of industry are apparently too poor to leave a tip. Keep your broke ass home.


Preach it, brother!
 
2013-02-12 04:18:27 PM  

JesusJuice: Dancin_In_Anson: Publikwerks: and I think that tipping 15-20% is well worth it to live in a world where I don't have to inspect my food for contaminants or be asked not to return.

Plus the fact he's not making people pay to serve him.

You know, JesusJuice, your little one man rant against a system that you think is broken does little more than make you a dickhead. Funny how you expect to be treated better than the others you interact with too.

Making?  Nobody's making anybody do anything.  You're free to quit if you refuse to serve me, and you're free to try to find a better job.  If $3 an hour is what you're worth, then that's what you should get.  I shouldn't have to pay more because you didn't study hard enough in school.

Don't like it?  Find a new job, go back to school, or be homeless.  Your livelihood is not my responsibility just because you walked some food out to me.


LOL you're just a goddamned cartoon character, arent you?
 
2013-02-12 04:18:36 PM  

neems: WTF does that have to do with restaurants paying their employees a decent wage?


Absolutely nothing, but some people are what I like to call "political fundamentalists"
 
2013-02-12 04:18:40 PM  

WhyKnot: it would suck to be a port-o-potty cleaner as well...jeez.

Servers, get over yourself all ready; if you don't like your job, get a different one.


THIS

/fark subby and "hero" tag.
//heroes pay taxes
 
2013-02-12 04:19:18 PM  
Is tomorrow the manual gearbox vs. automatic transmission thread?
 
2013-02-12 04:19:32 PM  

Subtle_Canary: hmm, the most i've EVER worked in my life was as a Staff Sgt back in 2007. we were pulling 12 hr shifts every day of the working week for over 6 months to adjust for squadron 'reorganization' (another way of saying that they decided our squadron could do with 50 guys what it used to do with 180). That worked out to a bit more than 9 bucks an hour for a job that most people needed a 4 year degree to even think about doing.

Not too shabby, the work itself wasnt strenuous. What made the job suck was dealing with other servicemember jerkoffs who didnt appreciate that we used the metric system in all our data or that we had to conform to an incredibly tight schedule and thus couldnt entertain their mickey mouse questions for 20 minutes because fark off dude, i got 6 other active duty bases, 5 airfields and 11 county agencies to deal with every 30 minutes.


OK my Turn.....

When I was an Airman (E-2)
back in Okinawa in the early 1980s, we calculated with *EVERYTHING*, base pay, dorm, food medical expenses, as best as we could calculate, we got $1 an hour, every hour, 24 hours a day, (work, poop, sleep, standing in line in the chow hall, whatever) 365 days a year.
It was amusing and depressing all at the same time.

Worse than that, an old salt I used to work with said in Korea, the officers had to pay for billeting (housing) out of their paycheck, because they got paid extra for it......even if they were living in a foxhole that they dug themselves. PRICLESS.

/no my life really wasn't in danger but it's still the military.
 
2013-02-12 04:20:17 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If you can't afford to tip, there's no one to blame except yourself. Also, if you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going to any restaurant that doesn't offer a meal for children with a toy included.


if you cant afford to work without tips.  Dont work a job that depends on them
 
2013-02-12 04:22:37 PM  

offacue: Is tomorrow the manual gearbox vs. automatic transmission thread?


I only tip servers who drive manual.
 
2013-02-12 04:23:04 PM  

JesusJuice: Dancin_In_Anson: Publikwerks: and I think that tipping 15-20% is well worth it to live in a world where I don't have to inspect my food for contaminants or be asked not to return.

Plus the fact he's not making people pay to serve him.

You know, JesusJuice, your little one man rant against a system that you think is broken does little more than make you a dickhead. Funny how you expect to be treated better than the others you interact with too.

Making?  Nobody's making anybody do anything.  You're free to quit if you refuse to serve me, and you're free to try to find a better job.  If $3 an hour is what you're worth, then that's what you should get.  I shouldn't have to pay more because you didn't study hard enough in school.

Don't like it?  Find a new job, go back to school, or be homeless.  Your livelihood is not my responsibility just because you walked some food out to me.


nobody is making you go to restaurants when you can't afford it either.  The custom in this country is to tip at sit down restaurants, don't like it?  don't go.  You know what the pay scale is for the employees yet you continue to eat at these places .  Get over yourself.
 
2013-02-12 04:23:15 PM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If you can't afford to tip, there's no one to blame except yourself. Also, if you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going to any restaurant that doesn't offer a meal for children with a toy included.


farking this.
 
2013-02-12 04:23:41 PM  

Devmapall: Stimpy's new tooth:
Thanks a lot to those of you who have the class to take care of those who take care of you!!  And to the rest of you, I hope someone puts Visine in your rum and coke.

That can be deadly

I always tip. I make very little money right now but if I go out to eat I budget the tip too.


I would never actually do that to anyone.  And I'm always nice to people, even if they don't tip.  I have such a variety of customers that, just for instance, I had one guy leave $100 on a $30 tab, and a guy leave $20 on a $200 tab.  Same me, same service.  It all works out and I'm just grateful that I was fortunate enough to find a second job.  Bartending gigs (especially decent ones) are incredible hard to find because people don't leave them.
 
2013-02-12 04:24:05 PM  
I tip pretty well, anywhere from 20-30% (even more if I'm given a military discount), and even more if the server is genuinely funny or brings me my drinks quickly. But really.... if your job sucks that goddamn bad, head back to school, take advantage of Pell grants and scholarships, and learn a trade that will earn more than $9/hour. I'm sorry your job sucks, but news flash, most people hate their jobs and feel as if they are underpaid. But let's be honest... unless you are busing the tables as well, serving and cooking the food yourself, you're paid to write an order down, and carry it 20 goddamn feet. You knew what the job required of you when you filled out the application.

Either find a job that makes you happy, or do something outside of the job that makes you so happy that you'll put up a shiatty job. Otherwise, life is going to be pretty farking miserable.
 
2013-02-12 04:24:45 PM  

JesusJuice: Making? Nobody's making anybody do anything. You're free to quit if you refuse to serve me, and you're free to try to find a better job. If $3 an hour is what you're worth, then that's what you should get. I shouldn't have to pay more because you didn't study hard enough in school.

Don't like it? Find a new job, go back to school, or be homeless. Your livelihood is not my responsibility just because you walked some food out to me.


Heh. You had me going there for a second...
 
2013-02-12 04:25:31 PM  
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2013-02-12 04:25:33 PM  

Treygreen13: I tip, and I tip well.

But goddamnit I don't need a reminder about how much your job sucks.


farking amen!
 
2013-02-12 04:25:42 PM  

kvinesknows: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If you can't afford to tip, there's no one to blame except yourself. Also, if you can't afford to tip, you shouldn't be going to any restaurant that doesn't offer a meal for children with a toy included.

if you cant afford to work without tips.  Dont work a job that depends on them


Enjoy the spit and dickcheese in your food the next time you come in, dude. Servers don't forget pieces of self-important shiat who barely get in the door without tripping on their own egos.

/not condoning it
//but I understand
 
2013-02-12 04:25:49 PM  

offacue: Is tomorrow the manual gearbox vs. automatic transmission thread?


Yep.  Then followed by gun ownership and legalizing marijuana.
 
2013-02-12 04:26:12 PM  

shaunmark: They should start a game show on this. Hidden cameras. If the waiter claims the exact amount they make on tips and report it correctly to the manager, they get a huge bonus/raise/promotion, etc. If they lie, they get arrested for tax fraud.

I just want to see a lot of people get arrested.


Every server in the US would be in jail.
 
2013-02-12 04:26:37 PM  

WhippingBoy: I bet the servers that complain the loudest about "bad tippers" are the same ones who rationalize not declaring their tips as taxable income.


As an accountant, I always advise my co-workers to claim everything. It will only come back to bite them in the butt.  For instance, need a car loan?  Need any kind of financial documentation?  Oh, what's that?  You only claimed $8k last year?  No loan for you!!

CSB:  After the BP oil spill, I received probably 3x what my co-workers did in the payoffs because I had claimed my tips for the previous three years.  Suck it, cheaters!
 
2013-02-12 04:26:41 PM  
The only possible use for this thread is humor. MOAR PICS
 
2013-02-12 04:26:55 PM  
I always tip 200% because I like extra ice in my diet coke.

Also it makes me feel like a big man.
 
2013-02-12 04:27:02 PM  

This Looks Fun: WhippingBoy: I bet the servers that complain the loudest about "bad tippers" are the same ones who rationalize not declaring their tips as taxable income.

Honestly, I've never met one that didn't rationalize not declaring their cash tips as income.


Me neither. The ones I've called on it usually responded with some juvenile excuse about "sticking it to the man!".
 
2013-02-12 04:27:02 PM  

xooxox: What, no mandatory gratuity on a table of 8?

This story smells of BS... or the server got the 18% and complained about not getting more.


In all my years of serving, I never auto-gratted. It was a point of pride for me.
 
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