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2013-02-12 03:31:29 PM  
I work near a regional Geico office.  They hire lots of people.  If someone out there isn't interested in a starting pay of $32,000 per year (add 3k if you're willing to work 3rd shift), full benefits, discounts on insurance and working indoors taking claims, payments or selling policies that are coming from people on the outside (no cold calling), plus 401k and bonuses, I really can't help you out. All without a college education. Hell, they have tuition reimbursement, too.

If you'd rather wait tables in this area, you are either not looking for full-time employment, a drug addict that can't pass a simple drug test, or just lazy.

CSB - know a guy who's been over there for about six years - makes about 68k and all he does is talk on the phone. Not bad for a guy who used to wait tables and decided enough was enough.
 
2013-02-12 03:32:06 PM  

stonicus: Taima: Wow, what a bunch of cheap bastards in this thread.  Is giving a few extra bucks to your server (or person from another service profession) really going to hurt you?   If so, then who really needs to get another job?

MmmCrime: kidgenius: MmmCrime: Look at the hourly pay rate on a pay stub for most servers. You'll then understand why you're wrong.

Their rate, including tips, must be >=$7.25 an hour.  This is federal law.  Some states are higher.

That is the rate at which they are taxed at if they're assumed to have made more than $30 in a month. Which means you can work the entire month, make $50 on top of the $424 you would bring in in wages, and then you're taxed as if you're making $7.25 an hr, or $1160 a month

kidgenius may be your name, but call someone you know who is a server and have them explain it to you.

If you brought in $424 ($2.65/hour @ 40 hours/week @ 4 weeks/month) and $50 in tips on top of that, then your employers has to pay you an additional $686 out of his pocket to put you at $1160/month ($7.25/hour).  That's federal law.  If you earn less than minimum wage, then your employer must make up the difference.  That is the law.  If your employers haven't been doing this to you, then you got screwed and your employers have broken the law.


The FLSA only applies to enterprise businesses (more than 2 employees, $500k.)  While that does cover most of the chain places, I'm sure there are small businesses out there whose employees are not protected.
 
hej
2013-02-12 03:32:28 PM  
It's strange, but seeing one story after another about how I need to be tipping servers actually makes me want to do it less.
 
2013-02-12 03:33:02 PM  

Mikey1969: TheSwissNavy: Only a white person would refer to $9/hour as "slave wages".  Slaves were generally paid a lot less, like, zero.

And it's not so simple that servers t make $2.65 an hour - if their tips don't bring their gross up to minimum wage,they are paid minimum wage. Which isn't much, but when the Democrats had control of Congress with a filibuster-proof Senate, and the Presidency, from July 2010 to January 2012, they didn't bother fixing this. Or anything.

/wanker

No, if 18% of your SALES don't equal minimum wage, you're brought up to minimum wage. There's a difference. You work out of your own drawer, so at the end of the night, after you have turned in your money, what's left is your tips. There is no way for you to prove how much or how little you make, so they take an automatic percentage of your sales and assume that you made that, whether you did or not. If THAT total doesn't make up the difference, then something is done, but if you get stiffed, nothing is done to make it up, no matter what you believe to be true.


Where do you get your 18% number? That's likely just a management thing.

from the DOL
"An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference."

Nothing about sales.

If you feel you didn't make the minimum wage per hour, keep a log and document everything. If you really didn't make it, show it to your boss, and report them if you'd like.
 
2013-02-12 03:33:27 PM  
"You want a tip?........DOOON'T bet on the races ! "

i.imgur.com
 
2013-02-12 03:33:28 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?

That would apply to any restaurant in Oregon. State law requires that all restaurant employees, whether they're working at McDonald's or a sit-down restaurant, to be paid Oregon's minimum wage. Currently that's $8.95 an hour. All tips are on top of that.


which is why i barf in my mouth just a little bit at the sanctimonious attitude thrown about at most eateries here.
add to that the idea that i'm supposed to be GRATEFUL that they chose to serve me at all

& ya, you gotta earn that tip
 
2013-02-12 03:33:34 PM  

feickus: Ok guys got a quetion about tipping.  At Chinese buffets do you leave a tip?  I tend to leave one but not as much as I would if I was going to TGIFridays or some place like that.


I *think* the standard is that if you are serving yourself at a buffet, but the waiter is refilling your drink/water/cleaning your old plates off, then you leave 10% for good service whereas 20% for good service at a *real* restaurant.

What I find baffling (having worked in the food service industry when I was younger) is that the waiter/waitress gets a tip at all. People will come back to a restaurant if the service is mediocre, but the food is excellent. They will not return if the food sucks... yet the cooks typically get *no* tip out.

It would make more sense to me if the roles were reversed. A set wage for waiters/waitresses and tip wages for cook staff.

But the waiters/waitresses here will get get sand in their vaginas after reading this I'm sure.
 
hej
2013-02-12 03:34:14 PM  

Kanemano: fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?

A lot of the hotels here (Waikiki) are unionized so the serving staff make about $16 an hour

there is no discernible difference in service from the stand alone non unionized places.


What about difference in cost?
 
2013-02-12 03:34:38 PM  
It's one thing to leave nothing or a buck or two.  Whatever.

It's a whole different story when the customer feels the need to scribble a pointless little love note whose only purpose is to try and point out that he or she is better off than the lowly server.

Trust me.  The server already knows you're better off than they are.  That's why they're waiting on you.  They don't need you to remind them of that.
 
2013-02-12 03:34:55 PM  

JesusJuice: Alternatively, the US could join the rest of the civilized world and pay servers a living wage.

I never tip and neither should you.  It just perpetuates a broken system.


And meanwhile, you save a lot of money at the expense of your server. If you want to start a responsible boycott - you know, a high-visibility one, with media attention and what have you - gather a bunch of people for 'anti-tipping day' and swarm a restauraunt, with NOBODY tipping, so that the owner has to pay out the minimum wage. And make sure to be VERY nice to the servers, since they'll be stuck in your scheme whether they agree or not, and be taking home less pay today because of it. But all your 'solitary rebellion' does is satisfy your own greed.
 
2013-02-12 03:34:58 PM  
They can always pick produce for minimum wage instead of waiting tables for 2.50 an hour
 
2013-02-12 03:35:49 PM  

doczoidberg: Tip your server, or don't eat out at a restaurant, you cheap piece of shiat.

Honestly, why is that so hard to understand?


Serve well and get a tip. Why is that so hard to understand. The idea that tipping is mandatory just because I chose your establishment to spend my money at is absurd.
 
2013-02-12 03:36:05 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: JesusJuice: I never tip and neither should you.

I suggest that you don't visit the same establishment more than once every year or two.


Threats of having your food spit in, extorting money from people for over 50 years.
 
2013-02-12 03:37:16 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Trust me.  The server already knows you're better off than they are.  That's why they're waiting on you.  They don't need you to remind them of that.


Just because someone is serving you doesn't mean they are below you or that you are better than they are.  That's a pretty asinine thing to say.  Servers never go out to eat at other restaurants?
 
2013-02-12 03:37:23 PM  

Giltric: They can always pick produce for minimum wage instead of waiting tables for 2.50 an hour


Hah, right. No, farmers apparently don't want to pay a competitive (or at least minimum) wage, which is why they tend to ACTUALLY whine when illegals get cracked down on.
 
2013-02-12 03:37:33 PM  

feickus: Ok guys got a quetion about tipping.  At Chinese buffets do you leave a tip?  I tend to leave one but not as much as I would if I was going to TGIFridays or some place like that.


I've heard that $1/place setting is reasonable.
 
2013-02-12 03:37:36 PM  

aspAddict: As a former food service slave from WAY back, I always make sure I tip well. If the service is great, I tip even better. shiatty waitstaff still get a decent tip from me, just because I know what it's like on that side of the serving tray.

CSB
One night, after a particularly bad experience with a trainee waiter, I tipped him roughly 25%. On the way to the car, my girlfriend said, "Why did you tip him that much? He was AWFUL!" I just replied, "Look, I've done his job before. It's miserable when you know what you're doing. It's his FIRST day on the job, so he's going to make mistakes. In the grand scheme of things, what is the right thing to do: give someone a little extra encouragement, or walk out of there with the measly $10-15.00 tip still in your pocket? That money means more to him right now that it did to me."
/CSB


Well if that place is the same as any other place i've seen that has wait staff, you just tipped that waiter/tress that trained the new guy. good jerb.
 
2013-02-12 03:37:48 PM  

super_grass: Remember kids, waiters are the hardest working people on the planet. Without them, society would come to a grinding halt!


They should be paid the same amount as surgeons, lawyers and elementary school teachers.
 
2013-02-12 03:38:11 PM  
Get some effing job skills and you won't work such a shiatty job.
 
2013-02-12 03:38:43 PM  
Keeping it as a tip though allows the servers to keep the money, other than the agreed upon splits to bartender, bus staff, crumber, and Host/Hostess. Once it changes to a mandatory service fee or is built into the prices the business can do whatever it wants with the money, for example pay their managers out of it.This is common in catering, where less than half of the 15% fee is used to provide the pay for staff, normally $10-$15 per hour. The rest goes back into the business.

Anyways, the article is propaganda, it is much less common, except for the "we pretend to not know how to tip" Europeans for people tip less than 10-20% nowadays. Also, don't forget the Server doesn't clear the table as stated in the article; the busboy does that, even at diners.

Why don't we discuss the why the IRS uses 8% on sales volume to determine income?  Naturally you can claim less, but those tend to get flagged for review. For every 3% average above that 8% you get to keep an additional 1% of income as untaxed. This is a substantial unreported income that also is used by the propaganda machine to cry about how little servers make.

At a moderate prices restaurant you should expect to take home $250-$300 per shift for the two peak days and $100-$150 for your off days. Pulling a double means lunch so another $50-$75 per day.

In other words, servers at restaurants with entrees that price about $15 should expect to take home between $600-$700 per week for five eight hour shifts, $15 an hour or about $35,000-$40,000 per year after you add in the tax bonus provided due to cash tips.

If they were making less than minimum wage they'd work at McDonald's and not at a full service restaurant.
 
2013-02-12 03:38:52 PM  

JesusJuice: I never tip and neither should you.  It just perpetuates a broken system.


Yeah, way to stick it to the Man!!!!!

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-02-12 03:40:46 PM  
If you don't believe in tipping, then don't go to restaurants with tipped employees. McDonald's and Burger King are just waiting for you to walk in the door.

If you want to eat at the big boy restaurants, then you pay for the fact that you get service at them, as opposed to ordering your food at a counter and bringing it to your table on your own, as well as handling drink refills, cleaning up after yourself, going back for desert, etc...
 
2013-02-12 03:41:14 PM  
sounds like they smaller sections so she doesn't ache and can give proper service.

Also, she should have pre-bussed.  Also if her section is smaller less likely she will hit the kitchen with several orders at once causing them to be weeded and could head off potential problems before they happen, like checking food prior to hitting the table.
 
2013-02-12 03:41:54 PM  

hej: Kanemano: fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?

A lot of the hotels here (Waikiki) are unionized so the serving staff make about $16 an hour

there is no discernible difference in service from the stand alone non unionized places.

What about difference in cost?


slightly higher, but that could be because the hotels are beachfront properties, the little bistro's can't get a place that close to the water but one of the best restaurants here is in an office building so there's that.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/alan-wongs-restaurant-honolulu
 
2013-02-12 03:42:00 PM  

NathanAllen:
Why don't we discuss the why the IRS uses 8% on sales volume to determine income?  Naturally you can claim less, but those tend to get flagged for review. For every 3% average above that 8% you get to keep an additional 1% of income as untaxed. This is a substantial unreported income that also is used by the propaganda machine to cry about how little servers make.


It's amazing how few people recognize that this is what goes on.

My wife used to work in a salon. I know how much she made and I know how much the government thinks she made.
 
2013-02-12 03:42:08 PM  
God damn tipping thread. I love working for a small business, one of the busiest bars in town.

If you don't tip, we usually start slow -- we'll make a comment or stop opening your beer. Three strikes and we either cut you off or kick you out, because we reserve the right to refuse service for any reason. Not tipping? You're a dick. And you can leave.
 
2013-02-12 03:42:24 PM  

stonicus: Vodka Zombie: Trust me.  The server already knows you're better off than they are.  That's why they're waiting on you.  They don't need you to remind them of that.

Just because someone is serving you doesn't mean they are below you or that you are better than they are.  That's a pretty asinine thing to say.  Servers never go out to eat at other restaurants?


That's is certainly not the point I was making.  Strange that you only managed to read the last part of what I wrote when there was a whole lot more.

Did my comment get hacked off or something midway through?

Nope.  It's all there.

That's weird, isn't it?  I mean, really.  I don't know if your computer is faulty or what, but you might want to have it looked at or something if it's only displaying partial comments here.
 
2013-02-12 03:42:26 PM  

Gunderson: feickus: Ok guys got a quetion about tipping.  At Chinese buffets do you leave a tip?  I tend to leave one but not as much as I would if I was going to TGIFridays or some place like that.

I've heard that $1/place setting is reasonable.


Heck yeah, you dont tip as much at the pigsty as you do as those fancy places...
 
2013-02-12 03:42:35 PM  

kevinfra: I've hear this before, get a better job, I don't get tips at my job, I shouldn't have to supplement the server's pay...yada yada yada.

But bottom line...

If you get decent service and don't leave a decent tip - you're an asshole.  Period.


Agreed.

If, however, I worked a 60 hour week and am taking my girlfriend out for our first date night in a month, her first night away from the kids in 2 months, and we get shiatty service?  You get no tip.  In fact, if I can hear you talking on the phone, or chatting it up with another waitress at the server's stand about your personal problems, boyfriend problems, health issues, rotten kids, etc. while I wait 20 minutes for a drink, I'm gonna be an asshole about it.

My tipping starting point is 20%.  It drops rapidly if the server is a douchebag.  Zero is totally acceptable in extreme circumstances.
 
PJ-
2013-02-12 03:42:52 PM  
To be quite honest, I never understood how tipping became a percentage of your bill.  I don't tip based upon the bill, because that's just ridiculous, if I sit at a place and have a snack and a quick drink, but spend an hour there milking my drink (or three), would it be fair that I left $5 because my bill was $23?  No, I would probably tip about $10, not because I'm tipping almost 50%, but the fact that I spend an hour there.

At the same fact, I show up with a date and have a meal that last 30 minutes, but the bill comes to me saying $100.  Why the hell would anybody deserve making $30 an hour off me alone.  That's more than I make, and also more than a lot of people I know make.  It's only two people and since it's a quick dinner, it's not like we are ordering plate after plate and drink after drink.

Basically, the way I tip is based on how much time I spend there, and relate tipping on an hourly wage.  If they are good at their job, they get a good tip, because good workers get paid well.  The most I will tip personally is $15 an hour, which, to me anyways, is a very healthy wage, and anybody complaining that I a small tipper deserves to be kicked in the nuts.
 
2013-02-12 03:42:52 PM  
I feel like this thread should be nuked from orbit.
 
hej
2013-02-12 03:42:58 PM  

Mikey1969: If you don't believe in tipping, then don't go to restaurants with tipped employees. McDonald's and Burger King are just waiting for you to walk in the door.


You don't tip at McDonalds or Burger King??
 
2013-02-12 03:43:26 PM  

kidgenius: Nothing about sales.

If you feel you didn't make the minimum wage per hour, keep a log and document everything. If you really didn't make it, show it to your boss, and report them if you'd like.


It's ALL about sales. You have no witness, no way to prove that table 12 left you $3 on a $200 tab, unless it's a credit card. The only way they can track it is based on your sales. Your little "log" will get you laughed out of the manager's office.

/That is unless you think that you can get a notary to follow you around all night.  Welcome to reality, your employer isn't just going to take your word for it if you don't make enough.
 
2013-02-12 03:44:16 PM  

Ecobuckeye: This story is an obvious fake.

A boozehound orders no olives. Those things take up space.


This and this and this. And this?
 
2013-02-12 03:44:32 PM  

NathanAllen: Keeping it as a tip though allows the servers to keep the money, other than the agreed upon splits to bartender, bus staff, crumber, and Host/Hostess. Once it changes to a mandatory service fee or is built into the prices the business can do whatever it wants with the money, for example pay their managers out of it.This is common in catering, where less than half of the 15% fee is used to provide the pay for staff, normally $10-$15 per hour. The rest goes back into the business.

Anyways, the article is propaganda, it is much less common, except for the "we pretend to not know how to tip" Europeans for people tip less than 10-20% nowadays. Also, don't forget the Server doesn't clear the table as stated in the article; the busboy does that, even at diners.

Why don't we discuss the why the IRS uses 8% on sales volume to determine income?  Naturally you can claim less, but those tend to get flagged for review. For every 3% average above that 8% you get to keep an additional 1% of income as untaxed. This is a substantial unreported income that also is used by the propaganda machine to cry about how little servers make.

At a moderate prices restaurant you should expect to take home $250-$300 per shift for the two peak days and $100-$150 for your off days. Pulling a double means lunch so another $50-$75 per day.

In other words, servers at restaurants with entrees that price about $15 should expect to take home between $600-$700 per week for five eight hour shifts, $15 an hour or about $35,000-$40,000 per year after you add in the tax bonus provided due to cash tips.

If they were making less than minimum wage they'd work at McDonald's and not at a full service restaurant.


As someone who has lived in the US and Europe - I would VERY strongly advise against using the EU as an example of how restaurants should be done.

Restaurants here are significantly more expensive and the service is significantly worse than anything I was accustom to in the US
 
2013-02-12 03:45:01 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: God damn tipping thread. I love working for a small business, one of the busiest bars in town.

If you don't tip, we usually start slow -- we'll make a comment or stop opening your beer. Three strikes and we either cut you off or kick you out, because we reserve the right to refuse service for any reason. Not tipping? You're a dick. And you can leave.


LOL dont tell the owner or you'll be the one going out the door, asshole.
 
2013-02-12 03:45:20 PM  

RembrandtQEinstein: fireclown: Before this goes all crazy, has anyone experimented with a restaurant where servers are just paid a decent wage to start with so that tipping wasn't necessary?

Yes, most everywhere I've been to in Europe. And the service is just fine. In the UK the service wasn't great but it was still adequate. Tipping is nothing more than legalized tax evasion for the food carriers, and its a slimy way to transfer risk from himself to his employees for restaurant owners.


It's also annoying that some folks are not contributing their fair share in SS and MCare contributions.  Not so much the waiters I'm concerned about, but generations of restaurant owners have scammed the system.
 
2013-02-12 03:45:27 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: JesusJuice: I never tip and neither should you.

I suggest that you don't visit the same establishment more than once every year or two.


I always inspect my food for contaminants and if I think anything is off, I speak to a manager.  I will also speak to a manager if I feel I'm not getting good service just because I refuse to tip.  Only one place has ever told me I wasn't welcome, everywhere else has been very accommodating.
 
2013-02-12 03:45:28 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: If you don't tip, we usually start slow -- we'll make a comment or stop opening your beer.


I always get a kick out of bartenders specifically.  You opened a beer, so clearly you deserve $1.

No need to kick me out.  If a bartender ever commented on not getting a tip for opening a beer, I'd leave.  The place is clearly run by assholes.
 
2013-02-12 03:45:30 PM  
I had to scrounge in my car once to get enough to pay a check.  I left ("stiffing" the waitress), went to an ATM, got some change, and returned with a generous tip.  I got a laugh from the manager.

Sure, maybe the system's broken.  It's supposed to give some control to the customer with regard to getting good service.  But until the system's fixed you're just punishing the server.

And yes, there are worse jobs, but most of them don't rely on tips.  So I suppose if you don't care about the service, then don't tip and they'll make minimum wage and you'll start getting shiatty service because that's all they'll make.
 
2013-02-12 03:45:38 PM  

hej: Mikey1969: If you don't believe in tipping, then don't go to restaurants with tipped employees. McDonald's and Burger King are just waiting for you to walk in the door.

You don't tip at McDonalds or Burger King??


Only on the 5th Tuesday in February...
 
2013-02-12 03:45:51 PM  

marleymaniac: yelmrog: Tipping is the price you pay to eat like the nobility used to, to have people wait on you like servants.  Don't like it, don't eat at restaurants.

I pay more for the food and drink going out than making it at home. THAT'S the price I pay. I tip for a server not making it a miserable experience.


You'd pay those inflated prices even if the place you're eating at doesn't have servers (chipotle, Qdoba, Buffet joints, etc).

Seriously.  You want to have servants bring you food and refill your drinks like you're some kind of big shot?  Then act like one and kick down some of that sweet high roller cash to the unwashed masses.
 
2013-02-12 03:46:09 PM  
Look, there are plenty of reasons to whine about tipping. Even some more than legitimate ones. I sympathize, I really do. To an honest, ethical person, a tip is a reward for good service, or a hope for it in the case of some pre meal wheel greasing. Tipping is the price you pay for eating out and being slaved over like you are some 15th century nobleman.

However, pretty much every argument goes out the window if you honestly realize that in most states tipped employees are nearly slave labor with almost no employment protection in any way.


But I'm not surprised that the Fark conservative, armchair libertarian brigades shiat on tipping. I think most of you should be punched in the genitals repeatedly until morale improves and you stop being selfish, awful, horrible, disgusting evil shiatbags who should die.

/those tip jars at chipotle ARE bullshiat though.
 
2013-02-12 03:47:22 PM  

Jument: Yay, another tipping thread! Honestly, aren't we getting tired of this yet?



The liberals need someone to pity.The author of this article is some kind of idiot MFA who never worked a real job.The fact is that pity is a terrible value.If being a server is so bad, people will migrate to some other job. But they don't. I wonder why?The kind of "writing" exhibited in this article reminds me of being in 7th grade all over again.So does the sentiment. Liberalism is a mental disorder
 
2013-02-12 03:47:36 PM  

JesusJuice: Alternatively, the US could join the rest of the civilized world and pay servers a living wage.

I never tip and neither should you.  It just perpetuates a broken system.


You're a douchebag and should fully expect your food to have "bonuses" in it.  Boycott the restaurant, talk to the owner, don't punish the waiter that has no say in the matter.  Either way you'd be paying the same amount for the meal, if you can't/don't want to pay that then eat at home.

Douche.
 
2013-02-12 03:48:12 PM  

stonicus


Vodka Zombie: Trust me. The server already knows you're better off than they are. That's why they're waiting on you. They don't need you to remind them of that.

Just because someone is serving you doesn't mean they are below you or that you are better than they are. That's a pretty asinine thing to say. Servers never go out to eat at other restaurants?


I embiggened the word that stonicus obviously missed.
 
2013-02-12 03:48:20 PM  
 your section is a set of booths and tables - six four-tops, four two-tops, one eight-top - that seat forty-four customers total

Hmmm.  It seems a "four-top" is waiter slang for a table that seats four people.  And so on. So I've got 24 people sitting at "four-tops", 8 people sitting at "two-tops", and 8 people sitting at an "eight-top". Where are the other 4 people sitting? How can I server them if I don't know where they are? Can I still get a tip from them?
 
2013-02-12 03:48:42 PM  

Madbassist1: thismomentinblackhistory: God damn tipping thread. I love working for a small business, one of the busiest bars in town.

If you don't tip, we usually start slow -- we'll make a comment or stop opening your beer. Three strikes and we either cut you off or kick you out, because we reserve the right to refuse service for any reason. Not tipping? You're a dick. And you can leave.

LOL dont tell the owner or you'll be the one going out the door, asshole.


Not likely. Corporate restaurants have ruined customers expectations. People think they can go wherever they want and act however they want and that nobody will call them out on it. We don't put up with any shiat, and the numbers we put up on a fricking Tuesday are what most in this town would kill for on a Saturday.

If we don't like you, we don't serve you. We don't need 14 frat boys screaming for bud lights and ruining the place just because they have money. They can go be farks somewhere else.
 
2013-02-12 03:48:45 PM  
www.raucousrecords.com

I worked in the service industry for years. Stories like this are just preaching to the choir - you're not going to convince anyone that specifically avoids tipping.

My advice to people who don't tip: Yes, you're completely within your legal rights to do so. However, do not EVER go back to the same place again. I guarantee that there will be something in your food or drink that you won't like... and you probably won't be aware of it at all.

/our bartender used to dip his manky, sweaty balls into cheap peoples' beer
//i actually prayed for some people not to tip me
///wouldn't feel guilty then
////and he was the NICE one
//two words: rat poop
 
2013-02-12 03:49:13 PM  

diabloninja: Threats of having your food spit in, extorting money from people for over 50 years.


Well, look at it like this. You know what the situation is for these folks. If you frequent a place and are intentionally a dickhead to these people, sooner or later the possibility exists that someone will respond in kind.

Don't be a dickhead.
 
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